You'll have to forgive them. They're used to having all new laws being sent to them from the VP's desk. This whole, "write your own laws" thing is a bit of a shock to the system.

Lando Lincoln: You'll have to forgive them. They're used to having all new laws being sent to them from the VP's desk. This whole, "write your own laws" thing is a bit of a shock to the system.

I don't get it - Does our society change that much to require 100+ new laws each year?

Are the current ones not being enforced?

CrispFlows: Lando Lincoln: You'll have to forgive them. They're used to having all new laws being sent to them from the VP's desk. This whole, "write your own laws" thing is a bit of a shock to the system.

I don't get it - Does our society change that much to require 100+ new laws each year?

Are the current ones not being enforced?

That's part of the problem. In order to service clients, lawmakers have to enact laws that require a LOT of parsing. The bulk of legislation that the Congress has been engaged in for the last 20 some odd years, has been focused on strictly defining things--and not just marriage. The stricter the definition, and the more hair fine those definitions, the easier it is to slip past legislation.

"We were only dumping X amount of dioxin--the law says we can't dump Y amount!"

"We can have four rat hairs per batch, and you only found three..."

Damage caps and the like are to protect folks by making things very clear cut. Not the folks who bring the suits, but it's entertaining that the "litigious culture" has been fostered not by folks looking for damages, but by companies who want to slip any hint of responsibility. A great deal of the rise of the lawyer in the country has been on the corporate law side--not just in the creation of legal fictions as commodities, but to help write legislation to regulate their own industries.

I suppose, that is part of the problem, is that lawmakers are being asked to write legislation, as opposed to having it handed to them for their support.

Legislating is hard, when you have to do it yourself...

It's about getting "even" for the way the libs mistreated poor Bush, and about the fact that Obama is on the wrong team. We can pretend there's any other reason for all the crap, but why bother ?

Frankly, they can keep going if they have the energy.

if it wasn't for the "liberal media" the GOP would have been gone a long time ago.

coming up on the sunday morning gop talk shows this week.(similar to every week)

• ABC, This Week: Senior White House Adviser David Axelrod; Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA).

• CBS, Face The Nation: Gov. Haley Barbour (R-MS); Susan Rice, Ambassador to the United Nations.

• CNN, State Of The Union: Gen. Ray Odierno; Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R-MN); Senate candidate Rob Portman (R-OH) and gubernatorial candidate John Kasich (R-OH).

• Fox News Sunday: Sec. of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius; Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY); and Gen. Ray Odierno.

• NBC, Meet The Press: Senior White House Adviser David Axelrod; Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and former Gov. Mitt Romney (R-MA).

just look at all those liberals giving their side of the issues.
no wonder they are so successful at manipulating public opinion

Sometimes I think it would be nice if all laws not passed by some really large majority (think amend-the-Constitution large)were automaticly given am expiry date. Keep Congress busy renewing old laws and keep them largely out of trouble....

horse-pheathers: Keep Congress busy renewing old laws and keep them largely out of trouble....

It's the old "Won't somebody find Mr. Dinglebottom something else to do?" tactic, eh?

I have never seen a group of people so clueless as what to do next than the GOP.

I almost feel sorry for them, you know? Bitter politics and resentment aside, I kinda do. I mean, fark them and their views and attitudes, but it must be a frightening prospect to face your own obsolescence. I have no doubt that they'll figure out some smarmy way to rebound by slinging the most mud, outright lying, et al, but even if they get one more go at the big chairs, I think they're honestly a bit of a dying party, at this point.

Maybe they'll rebound completely, but they'll never again be what they are. And they know that. And they're honestly terrified--TERRIFIED--and covering it poorly. So yeah, I almost feel sorry for them.

Kind of like I feel sorry for a racist confronted with how racism is the dumbest thing on the planet. Because it's comforting to them, especially since it might be the one thing in their lives they have some control over. Letting go of these views is really hard.

Poor little old rich white guys.

/here, have a cookie
//I promise by the time you're done eating it, you'll feel right as rain

I think the question we need to ask is:

Are you smarter than a 5th grader?

It appears a whole bunch of folks have forgotten grade school civics

horse-pheathers: Sometimes I think it would be nice if all laws not passed by some really large majority (think amend-the-Constitution large)were automaticly given am expiry date. Keep Congress busy renewing old laws and keep them largely out of trouble....

The problem with that is that there's no logical reason (for Congress at least) to re-up good laws which tie their hands.

Up until Bush Jr took office, there was a law that said that every dollar of spending in the budget had to be paid for with a dollar cut or a tax increase.

The law expired and Congress went nuts, passing (among other things) the multi-billion dollar prescription drug plan which had no funding in the budget.

Yes, Obama does not make laws. The only thing that goes through congress that Obama originally creates is the budget (and even then, it's usually ripped to shreds by the time it passes).

Which is why I'm pissed at all these people attacking Obama for not overturning DADT or other things.

ONLY CONGRESS CAN DO THAT!

He is. He's also too polite. If he were a real leader, he'd be kicking you in the nuts right now.

Done in one!

I assume it meant the headline

After two weeks of pouring over pictures and videos my friend has been sending me to get out of Iran, I'm having a reeeaally hard time giving a fark about what these biatches have to cry about now.

Maybe if they stopped spending all there time casting about for people to blame their problems on, they'd get some shiat done. I don't care if they survive or not as a party anymore. What a waste.

jake3988: Which is why I'm pissed at all these people attacking Obama for not overturning DADT or other things.

Uh, I don't think that one's a law. That is a pentagon policy, which he can change with the stroke of a pen.

Please do correct me if I'm wrong.

It doesn't bother me that the two sides fight. It bothers me how much the GOP truly sucks at it.

horse-pheathers: Sometimes I think it would be nice if all laws not passed by some really large majority (think amend-the-Constitution large)were automaticly given am expiry date. Keep Congress busy renewing old laws and keep them largely out of trouble....

Is "glib poly-sci" a course where you went to school?

Hobodeluxe: coming up on the sunday morning gop talk shows this week.(similar to every week)

The steady decline of national TV news makes me want to stab myself in the brain. I mean, it really wasn't very good when obsessing over OJ, and it just keeps outdoing itself it suckitude.

5Nickels: Done in one!

I assume it meant the headline

How is the headline pretty much quoting the article "reaching"?

jake3988: Which is why I'm pissed at all these people attacking Obama for not overturning DADT or other things.

Well in theory he could use an Executive Order to change DADT. But to be blunt, it's just not worth the political capital expenditure and the fallout. Sorry, friends, too little upside for too much risk. My family owns 3 Saturns, but no way in hell we're gonna invest in GM right now.

I'm just waiting for the Zombie Apocalypse to begin. It won't be long now.

GaryPDX: I'm just waiting for the Zombie Apocalypse to begin. It won't be long now.

They won't be your friends either.

RevMercutio: GaryPDX: I'm just waiting for the Zombie Apocalypse to begin. It won't be long now.

They won't be your friends either.

GOOD!

But actually doing work is so unsophisticated.

Well, i guess the subby considers not showing up or voting present as actually doing something in the senate

Let's not forget his 18 appointed "czars". Bush pissed on the Constitution, and Obama is wiping his arse with it.

bartink: Uh, I don't think that one's a law. That is a pentagon policy, which he can change with the stroke of a pen.

Please do correct me if I'm wrong.

UCMJ is written and controlled by Congress. Obama can stop it from being enacted through his control over stop-loss, but the actual policy on the books has to be repealed at the Congressional level.

The Republicans appear to be chewing on one foot while shooting themselves in the other. As for the Sunday morning "talk shows" the only one worth watching is Bill Moyers. The rest are an embarrassment to the schools of journalism the network employees attended. BTW does anyone know if they actually graduated in journalism?

Shaggy_C: But actually doing work is so unsophisticated.

*cough*league of fail*cough*

obzerver
That's hot.

Murkanen: UCMJ is written and controlled by Congress.

UCMJ doesn't actually specify the DADT policy. The Congress has delegated the responsibility for developing and implementing specific rules to enforce DADT to the Secretary of Defense under 10 U.S.C. § 654.

so Democrats have FINALLY figured out that Congress makes laws and spends the money?

What took you so damn long?

Shaggy_C: But actually doing work is so unsophisticated.

Dude, we get it. Somebody made a drawring that looks like Obama is a little smarmy and arrogant.

We get it.

We get it.

Very clever.

Gold star.

Doak:

That's hot.

It'd be hotter with mayonnaise instead of mustard.

Shaggy_C: But actually doing work is so unsophisticated.

Why does Obama look so much like William F. Buckley, Jr. so much in that drawing? Oh, he's an elitist. MUSTARD!

DrowningLessons: Dude, we get it. Somebody made a drawring that looks like Obama is a little smarmy and arrogant.

I find it funny, personally. The accusation is stupid and baseless, why not crack some jokes at Barry's expense? I'm sure he doesn't mind.

Hobodeluxe: if it wasn't for the "liberal media" the GOP would have been gone a long time ago.

coming up on the sunday morning gop talk shows this week.(similar to every week)

• ABC, This Week: Senior White House Adviser David Axelrod; Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA).

• CBS, Face The Nation: Gov. Haley Barbour (R-MS); Susan Rice, Ambassador to the United Nations.

• CNN, State Of The Union: Gen. Ray Odierno; Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R-MN); Senate candidate Rob Portman (R-OH) and gubernatorial candidate John Kasich (R-OH).

• Fox News Sunday: Sec. of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius; Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY); and Gen. Ray Odierno.

• NBC, Meet The Press: Senior White House Adviser David Axelrod; Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and former Gov. Mitt Romney (R-MA).

just look at all those liberals giving their side of the issues.
no wonder they are so successful at manipulating public opinion

QFT

Shaggy_C: DrowningLessons: Dude, we get it. Somebody made a drawring that looks like Obama is a little smarmy and arrogant.

I find it funny, personally. The accusation is stupid and baseless, why not crack some jokes at Barry's expense? I'm sure he doesn't mind.

It's not that you're cracking jokes at "Barry's" expense. Anybody can do that if it's worth a laugh. It's that your post was deeply, deeply unfunny...AND I've seen you do it more than once in different threads. It's not just unfunny. It's like...humor's antibiotics or something.

DrowningLessons: It's that your post was deeply, deeply unfunny

Why so serious? I find the "Obama the snob" meme quite hilarious, especially since he's such a goofball and non-snoblike in general. It's kind of funny to me seeing Republicans twist and squirm to try to reconcile their view that "black people are lazy" with this new "he's too high and mighty to do work" thing.

Shaggy_C: DrowningLessons: It's that your post was deeply, deeply unfunny

Why so serious? I find the "Obama the snob" meme quite hilarious, especially since he's such a goofball and non-snoblike in general. It's kind of funny to me seeing Republicans twist and squirm to try to reconcile their view that "black people are lazy" with this new "he's too high and mighty to do work" thing.

You must keep in mind the damage caused by such ludicrous jokes throughout history.

I mean, here we are, nearly thirty years later, and that joke about Reagan actually being competent grew legs and now some people actually believe it.

Shaggy_C: DrowningLessons: It's that your post was deeply, deeply unfunny

Why so serious? I find the "Obama the snob" meme quite hilarious, especially since he's such a goofball and non-snoblike in general. It's kind of funny to me seeing Republicans twist and squirm to try to reconcile their view that "black people are lazy" with this new "he's too high and mighty to do work" thing.

I'll be honest. I keep thinking you're a troll. Maybe there was a similarly handled troll a little while back?

Shaggy_C: DrowningLessons: It's that your post was deeply, deeply unfunny

Why so serious? I find the "Obama the snob" meme quite hilarious, especially since he's such a goofball and non-snoblike in general. It's kind of funny to me seeing Republicans twist and squirm to try to reconcile their view that "black people are lazy" with this new "he's too high and mighty to do work" thing.

No, I get your attempt at meta humor, you don't have to explain it to me. It just sucked something awful. I'm telling you the joke is total fail, so that you stop and either cease this shiat in other threads, or go back and think about things until you come up with similar meta humor that's actually funny.

Lenny_da_Hog: I mean, here we are, nearly thirty years later, and that joke about Reagan actually being competent grew legs and now some people actually believe it.

Ha! Now see, that's funny, and I kinda like Reagan.

Dafatone: I'll be honest. I keep thinking you're a troll. Maybe there was a similarly handled troll a little while back?

It was probably him. Shaggy_C likes to troll on occasion and he does such a good job at it that people have a hard time differentiating between satirical Shaggy and trolling Shaggy.

SherKhan: Doak:

That's hot.

It'd be hotter with mayonnaise instead of mustard.

Pretty sure it's cheese. Like Velveeta or something. Mayo

"It's the perpetual campaign," said Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee. "It's photo-ops; it doesn't happen to include doing the hard work it takes to solve big problems that he talks about but I don't ever see him doing."

Translation

OBAMA:

elchip wins, as usual.

And it's not political at all to give a unanymous NO to every possible thing that he proposes?

"Political" is Neocon-speak for "We don't get our way every time."

bwesb: It doesn't bother me that the two sides fight. It bothers me how much the GOP truly sucks at it.

What bothers me more is that about 50% of the population falls for their bullshiat.