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(Some Guy) Strange How Michael Jackson's death will destabilize Iran and bring about regime change. No, really   (thedailybeast.com) divider line 64
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thomps [TotalFark] 2009-06-26 04:46:17 PM  
um, i think the article is saying the exact opposite there subby.

 
thomps [TotalFark] 2009-06-26 04:52:56 PM  
and regardless, as long as the various fark brigades remain vigilant the revolution lives on.

 
wyrlss 2009-06-26 05:03:54 PM  

 
m2313 2009-06-26 05:04:37 PM  
I'm pretty sure his death has bleached all MSM new coverage of Iran, but who nose.

 
thomps [TotalFark] 2009-06-26 05:05:11 PM  
m2313: I'm pretty sure his death has bleached all MSM new coverage of Iran, but who nose.

but the revolution remains unmolested.

 
GoldSpider 2009-06-26 05:05:18 PM  
The true scope of this tragedy is still yet unknown. Regardless of what you might have thought of his personal life, there is no denying his talent as an entertainer. He inspired whole generators of pop bands, from New Kids on the Block, to Backstreet Boys and Green Day. He will be missed.

 
Richard Pye 2009-06-26 05:06:42 PM  
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad killed Michael Jackson.

 
make me some tea [TotalFark] 2009-06-26 05:07:27 PM  
The MSM already started ignoring Iran as of Tuesday.

 
Bill_Wick's_Friend 2009-06-26 05:07:50 PM  
The English on-line edition of The Tehran Times doesn't mention Michael Jackson OR Farrah Fawcett on their front page. It's all dull stuff about their election and middle eastern politics, none of which is anywhere close to being as relevant to the immediate interests of Iranians as MJ's death.

 
coachwdb 2009-06-26 05:08:43 PM  
Michael has the mulllahs working day and night!

 
Wolf Blitzer is a Substitute Teacher 2009-06-26 05:09:32 PM  
Rot in hell, kiddy-diddler.

 
m2313 2009-06-26 05:10:21 PM  
thomps: but the revolution remains unmolested.

Yeah, the situation is already bad. Pretty sure it's going to get off the wall and be even more dangerous for the protestors.This is history in the making.

 
vernonFL [TotalFark] 2009-06-26 05:11:00 PM  
Rubin cited Sudan as an example of where international pressure, encouraged by heavy media coverage, helped force the government to significantly reduce violence.

LOLWUT?? tens of thousands raped and/or dead, hundreds of thousands homeless refugees fled the country.

Sudan stopped killling people because there is no one left to kill.

 
m2313 2009-06-26 05:12:16 PM  
Saeed Hajjarian is fine. I talked to a very close family member #iranelection

IRE

 
thomps [TotalFark] 2009-06-26 05:14:34 PM  
m2313: thomps: but the revolution remains unmolested.

Yeah, the situation is already bad. Pretty sure it's going to get off the wall and be even more dangerous for the protestors.This is history in the making.


unfortunately the media is sealed like a hyperbolic chamber. only small amounts of information bubbles over.

 
WaltzingMathilda [TotalFark] 2009-06-26 05:14:52 PM  
Wolf Blitzer is a Substitute Teacher: Rot in hell, kiddy-diddler.

if you believe in hell, then you probably believe in god ... and he'd probably be a bit angry with you about your decision to try to take his place on who does and does not get damned to hell.

not to mention he's never been convicted of kiddly diddling.

 
Funk Brothers 2009-06-26 05:15:44 PM  
Were there any Michael Jackson references in the film Persepolis?

 
Bukkake Bandit 2009-06-26 05:16:37 PM  
WaltzingMathilda: f you believe in hell, then you probably believe in god ... and he'd probably be a bit angry with you about your decision to try to take his place on who does and does not get damned to hell.

not to mention he's never been convicted of kiddly diddling.


it's also a bit presumptuous to assume that god created kiddies without wanting them to be diddled.

 
vernonFL [TotalFark] 2009-06-26 05:17:05 PM  
my back hurts need demerol #michaeljackson

 
pnjunction [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-06-26 05:17:05 PM  
vernonFL: Rubin cited Sudan as an example of where international pressure, encouraged by heavy media coverage, helped force the government to significantly reduce violence.

LOLWUT?? tens of thousands raped and/or dead, hundreds of thousands homeless refugees fled the country.

Sudan stopped killling people because there is no one left to kill.


Yeah 'international pressure' is about as likely to bring democracy to Iran as it is to bring MJ back to life.

 
Trey Le Parc 2009-06-26 05:21:40 PM  
Bukkake Bandit: WaltzingMathilda: f you believe in hell, then you probably believe in god ... and he'd probably be a bit angry with you about your decision to try to take his place on who does and does not get damned to hell.

not to mention he's never been convicted of kiddly diddling.

it's also a bit presumptuous to assume that god created kiddies without wanting them to be diddled.


Bravo, sir, and allow me to step quickly away in the event of unforseen lightning.

 
Toquinha 2009-06-26 05:22:31 PM  
I was more thinking that it'd be the perfect opportunity for the US military to bomb the crap out of another country just for the heck of it.

 
thomps [TotalFark] 2009-06-26 05:29:15 PM  
Toquinha: I was more thinking that it'd be the perfect opportunity for the US military to bomb the crap out of another country just for the heck of it.

nah, we're taking a more diplomatic approach. we're starting with tehran in a furor. we're asking them to change their ways.

 
phygz [TotalFark] 2009-06-26 05:30:53 PM  
WaltzingMathilda: Wolf Blitzer is a Substitute Teacher: Rot in hell, kiddy-diddler.

if you believe in hell, then you probably believe in god ... and he'd probably be a bit angry with you about your decision to try to take his place on who does and does not get damned to hell.

not to mention he's never been convicted of kiddly diddling.


Never been convicted, but he did settle out of court. Innocent people don't do that.

 
thomps [TotalFark] 2009-06-26 05:31:56 PM  
phygz: Never been convicted, but he did settle out of court. Innocent people don't do that.

i can't begin to explain how inaccurate this statement is.

 
Elmo Jones 2009-06-26 05:36:11 PM  
thomps: m2313: I'm pretty sure his death has bleached all MSM new coverage of Iran, but who nose.

but the revolution remains unmolested.


The revolution will not be sodomized.

 
vernonFL [TotalFark] 2009-06-26 05:36:45 PM  
With all the secret police in Iran, one scared blogger wrote: "I always feel like somebodys watching me"

 
WaltzingMathilda [TotalFark] 2009-06-26 05:39:49 PM  
phygz: WaltzingMathilda: Wolf Blitzer is a Substitute Teacher: Rot in hell, kiddy-diddler.

if you believe in hell, then you probably believe in god ... and he'd probably be a bit angry with you about your decision to try to take his place on who does and does not get damned to hell.

not to mention he's never been convicted of kiddly diddling.

Never been convicted, but he did settle out of court. Innocent people don't do that.


you can't settle out of a criminal case. it doesn't work that way.

however, many high profile people have been shaken down and any hollywood publicist will tell you: pay them off, get it out of the news ASAP, it doesn't matter if you did it or not.

 
WaltzingMathilda [TotalFark] 2009-06-26 05:40:36 PM  
Bukkake Bandit: WaltzingMathilda: f you believe in hell, then you probably believe in god ... and he'd probably be a bit angry with you about your decision to try to take his place on who does and does not get damned to hell.

not to mention he's never been convicted of kiddly diddling.

it's also a bit presumptuous to assume that god created kiddies without wanting them to be diddled.


this is true. but then why would the diddler be doomed to rot in hell, when he is doing god's will?

 
Bukkake Bandit 2009-06-26 05:41:55 PM  
WaltzingMathilda: this is true. but then why would the diddler be doomed to rot in hell, when he is doing god's will?

and there's the presumption.

 
YoMammaObama 2009-06-26 05:45:06 PM  
Richard Pye: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad killed is Michael Jackson.

Never saw them in the same room, have you. (It's the only way subby's read on the article could be right.)

 
67 Beetle 2009-06-26 05:46:40 PM  
I always thought that, next to UBL, Gary Condit was the happiest man about 9/11.

 
YoMammaObama 2009-06-26 05:47:46 PM  
thomps: Toquinha: I was more thinking that it'd be the perfect opportunity for the US military to bomb the crap out of another country just for the heck of it.

nah, we're taking a more diplomatic approach. we're starting with tehran in a furor. we're asking them to change their ways.


No. The message doesn't get any clearer: If you want to make the world a better place you better blow the shiat out of everyplace.

 
wallywam1 2009-06-26 05:50:27 PM  
Reading comprehension fail.

 
pascoffee 2009-06-26 05:50:41 PM  
MJ has no impact on Iran. He didn't even make it to the music thread

 
WaltzingMathilda [TotalFark] 2009-06-26 05:51:09 PM  
YoMammaObama: thomps: Toquinha: I was more thinking that it'd be the perfect opportunity for the US military to bomb the crap out of another country just for the heck of it.

nah, we're taking a more diplomatic approach. we're starting with tehran in a furor. we're asking them to change their ways.

No. The message doesn't get any clearer: If you want to make the world a better place you better blow the shiat out of everyplace.


Hoo! Na na na, na na na, na na na na na ...

/sorry, just wanted to play too

 
Aexia 2009-06-26 05:51:50 PM  
www.respectmag.fr

 
Mentat [TotalFark] 2009-06-26 06:02:01 PM  
thomps: and regardless, as long as the various fark brigades remain vigilant the revolution lives on.

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Fark yeah threadshiatters.

 
Michael Jackson's Ghost 2009-06-26 06:07:09 PM  
For the sake of the little children of Iran, I hope that my death does not distract our earthly leaders from making Iran a peaceful place. God bless them, every one.

 
modestlivinglegend 2009-06-26 06:14:44 PM  
Innocent people do settle out of court, when they choose not to endure threats of being dragged through the mud in protracted litigation designed to extort large sums of money. Michael's closest friends know he was always innocent.

Michael was praised in a letter from Ronald Reagan in the early 1980's for his place as a role model for children. He took it to heart and centered his life around the Peter Pan image and devoted much of his life to making children happy.

Sadly, he was in the music business and the pressure from people like Madonna to bend to the fad of crotch grabbing and hyper sexualized music pushed him into mixed message territory. Then there was factor of allowing children to have wine. Michael was an extortionist's dream. Easy pickings. Poor, child-like Michael. All talent and no common sense.

Giving children wine sealed his fate in the minds of most Americans that he must be guilty. People from other countries did not put the final nail in his coffin and presume guilt just because he allowed kids to drink wine. Even toddlers drink wine in other countries, but in the United States, that is considered reprehensible. They assumed Michael was some kind of monster, yet he was found innocent.

I hope someone interviews the accusing children in depth someday, like an hour long interview by Barbara Walters or someone who can really grill them about what happened. It would be a shame if those kids also die of drug overdoses, spending all that money they extorted before we get a chance.

 
Hollerin Charlie 2009-06-26 06:15:04 PM  
Not sure if the intelligence community is really that distracted by the dead pedophile. I agree that if the world forgets about Iran, it doesn't help the situation one bit. Likewise, focusing to much on it makes it look like the world is meddling and then they use that as an excuse to treat the protesters as foreign agents.

It's a troubling problem and much on everyone's radar. Unless you are talking about the Jon and Kate crowd - they have the attention span of goldfish and aren't even really human IMHO. Don't rely on their help - they do not care. They aren't informed enough to realize that this is more important than MJ jokes.

Good news is that the American public's collective opinion does not matter even a little as far as events in Iran are concerned. The people whose opinions matter are already there doing their thing. Unless MJ's death hits Iran's locals much harder than it hit us, I think the revolution will manage to limp along without him.

As much as we may like to pretend that this is all good sport, there are a lot of university folks in jail now and several of them are likely to get executed for expressing their beliefs and demanding representative democracy. That is the game changer and the djinn is out of the bottle truly.

It's going to be a long and bloody fight and it won't stop in Iran - the Iraqi and Afghan violence recently is part of the proxy war. USA sends in spooks, Iran sends in spooks. It's farked up, but nobody is willing to face the truth:

The Iranian people have shown us how to do it. How to undermine and depose oppressive governments. The Burmese junta in Myanmar is shiatting itself at the moment. China and Russia are also counting losses preemptively. Expect this thing to move to the Pakistan border and over it in the next week.

Khomeni is going down. He is politically dead and he has no idea how close he is to getting guillotined in the streets. I say this not because of the street demonstrations - we know the people with 40% unemployment are suffering (not to mention sanctions) - but the divisions in the military and clerical elite.

I assure you, Raffi will be about as easy to deal with as Khomeni, but this is the Iranian people's choice, not anyone else's. Anyone who says we should be helping students overthrow the government is either a homicidal maniac with no knowledge of history, or lobbying for an oil/reconstruction concern.

I continue to observe the situation with great interest. My grandchildren will want to know what it was like.

/What do MJ and caviar have in common?

 
Michael Jackson's Ghost 2009-06-26 06:16:01 PM  
Hollerin Charlie: Not sure if the intelligence community is really that distracted by the dead pedophile.

This deeply, deeply hurts me. Forshame on you, good sir.

 
PartTimeBuddha 2009-06-26 06:17:36 PM  
wyrlss: How Michael Jackson's music will provide a soundtrack for the revolution (new window)

But they'll all be going backwards!

 
Why Would I Read the Article 2009-06-26 06:17:50 PM  
modestlivinglegend: hope someone interviews the accusing children in depth someday, like an hour long interview by Barbara Walters or someone who can really grill them about what happened.

The interview would be derailed when all the kids started asking her how she couldn't figure out that the beautiful woman he met in the woods was merely Bugs Bunny in drag.

 
WaltzingMathilda [TotalFark] 2009-06-26 06:19:44 PM  
Hollerin Charlie: I continue to observe the situation with great interest. My grandchildren will want to know what it was like.

your gradchildren will hopefully be smart enough to understand that they won't really know what the revolution was like listening to the rantings of a dude who was sitting around on the internet with cheeto stains on his shirt reading tweets between missions with his WoW guild

 
Bukkake Bandit 2009-06-26 06:22:27 PM  
WaltzingMathilda: Hollerin Charlie: I continue to observe the situation with great interest. My grandchildren will want to know what it was like.

your gradchildren will hopefully be smart enough to understand that they won't really know what the revolution was like listening to the rantings of a dude who was sitting around on the internet with cheeto stains on his shirt reading tweets between missions with his WoW guild


ooh, bad move buddy. you're not going to get an internet badge anymore.

 
Apik0r0s 2009-06-26 06:41:56 PM  
Benjamin Sarlin reads of Michael Jackson's death and all he can think of is how it will affect Israel's greatest enemy?

Color me shocked!

 
Elvis Da King 2009-06-26 06:58:05 PM  
Michael Jackson's Ghost: Hollerin Charlie: Not sure if the intelligence community is really that distracted by the dead pedophile.

This deeply, deeply hurts me. Forshame on you, good sir.


We really have to work on not feeding the trolls, people.

They're just popping up in the most amazing places.

 
davideggy 2009-06-26 07:07:40 PM  
MJ has already shown zombie-like tendancies (see Thriller, his appearance over the last few years). I say we let him come back as a zombie, let him infect a few backup dancers in a controlled environment.

Then, dress them all in green and let them loose in Iran. They'll all be congregating around like zombies do causing the Basij to mistake them for protesters. Although they will be slightly confused that they are all dancing, they'll attempt to break it up like the mindless thugs they are. Hilarity will ensue.

If there's one thing zombies know how to do, it's bring about democracy. Either that or bloody carnage, I can never remember which.

 
FishStampede [TotalFark] 2009-06-26 07:16:31 PM  
WaltzingMathilda: Bukkake Bandit: WaltzingMathilda: f you believe in hell, then you probably believe in god ... and he'd probably be a bit angry with you about your decision to try to take his place on who does and does not get damned to hell.

not to mention he's never been convicted of kiddly diddling.

it's also a bit presumptuous to assume that god created kiddies without wanting them to be diddled.

this is true. but then why would the diddler be doomed to rot in hell, when he is doing god's will?


It's like the dinosaur thing. It's God's Rickroll, only instead of listening to crappy 80s music you go to hell if you fall for it.

 
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