So basically they want to try to raise taxes on people who don't have the ability to remember where they are going.

That's a pretty niche market, so good luck with that guys.

Eyes forward, hands at 10 and 2, no talking!

Considering how catching someone on a non hands free cell phone is next to impossible unless said person is retarded, I don't see how catching them for this (which is much more difficult given that the officer will need to be looking into the car from nearby to even see the GPS) will ever happen.

Don't forget about the people that are just too lazy to map it out

MiamiChef: Eyes forward, hands at 10 and 2, no talking!

You are behind the wheel of METAL DEATH you will act accordingly.

They're outlawing orange tanning cream and banning "driving while puckered?"
DRTFA

If they try this in Florida, my brother is going to be very pissed. He loves his GPS, even custom made a mount for it so he can use it on his BMW motorcycle.

However, knowing Florida, they probably will.

NO maps. NO knowing where you're going. Too dangerous. If you have a vague or specific plan on how to get somewhere that requires assistance before reaching the destination, you're not welcome in this state.

Zulgaines: MiamiChef: Eyes forward, hands at 10 and 2, no talking!

You are behind the wheel of METAL DEATH you will act accordingly.

Unless you're driving a Kia...then it's plastic death.

It's part of a conspiracy to keep Jersey drivers disoriented.

I'm SURE of it.

picking my nose
masturbating
scratching my ass
adjusting my radio
fantasizing about nekkid vajays
smelling my socks
eating fast food
eating boogers
masturbating my passenger
road head
counting change
adjusting my seatbelt
paying the toll booth
using my knees to steer
hitting a pipe
hitting a bong
hitting a hookah
hitting my passenger
burping (mmm, boogers)
adjusting my genitals
blinking

What a car driven by a person using GPS might look like:

There is a fine line between laws that protect and laws that protect the city's bank account.

Oh goody. Cops can talk on the radio, use a cell phone, use a GPS, and operate a laptop while driving emergency traffic but I'm supposed to pull my ambulance over, shut down the siren and use a GPS to get directions to a patients house in the country while said patient has a heart attack. BRILLIANT piece of legislation!
Before you start yelling: NO, we're not afforded the same priveleges as cops and YES they can give us tickets for doing things that they get away with daily.

I'm going to vote for the first politician that will vow to bring in no new laws and just work to get rid of the ones that are stupid and nonenforceable.

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: It's part of a conspiracy to keep Jersey drivers disoriented.

I'm SURE of it.

I'm sure they don't need a conspiracy for that.

willicus: I'm sure they don't need a conspiracy for that.

Hah!

Perhaps not, but this isn't going to help matters any.

I've seen some HORRIBLE drivers around here in my time, lemmetellya...

*cough* cash grab *cough*

This is all a part of Big Oil's plot to get people to have to waste gas driving around completely lost. Or an attempt to drive up the rates of domestic violence and spousal homicides in couples who use navigation as a fighting point symbolic of their whole relationships.

B A: Oh goody. Cops can talk on the radio, use a cell phone, use a GPS, and operate a laptop while driving emergency traffic but I'm supposed to pull my ambulance over, shut down the siren and use a GPS to get directions to a patients house in the country while said patient has a heart attack. BRILLIANT piece of legislation!
Before you start yelling: NO, we're not afforded the same priveleges as cops and YES they can give us tickets for doing things that they get away with daily.

So farking true it's pathetic.
Cops, at least here in Denver, do not follow the traffic laws they very quickly enforce.

Lead by example or don't farking lead asshats.

...and I can't believe we pay our tax money to dolts like the prick in TFA to think shiit like this up. Waste of our valueable resourses.

//Yeah, yeah, grammer Nazi me all u want.

Motorists pulled over for the newly created offense would face a $100 fine without license points

hmm. And presented by a democrat no less.

You know, i'm starting to get the impression that traffic laws aren't about safety anymore!

as someone who has nearly driven off the road or head on into traffic several time while fighting with my GPS/Cell phone.. This is probably a good idea...

Here's a wacky idea - why not set driving (a network activity) laws ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL where they belong (just like every other country on the face of the earth and just like for all other network things such as power, the FCC, railroads, and so forth) instead of giving every two-bit politician the ability to pull crap like this? Why the hell do states not get together and say - you know what? We could trim $20 million off our budgets if we just unified these laws and testing procedures. would it REALLY be that hard?

cos it's much safer to have a driver unfold a giant map and take it from there.

You know, this may seem like another trivial encroachment on us, but I think this is really part of a larger assault on our sense of freedom. Like it or not, car culture is an improtant part of our modern American cultural sense of identity. For the most part, that sense of being in our own car, with the ability to get on a road and go whereever you wanted to, is an important connection to our identity as Americans. The open road, and Keroac, and all that... I think there is value to the feeling that if I get into my car, I am alone and free and no one can really fark with me.

The more we put all these little, petty rules and regs into play, the less free I am in the privacy of my own car, the more the state and the rule-makers are in the passenger seat next to me, telling me what I can and can't do. A big peice of our landscape is taken away in the name of "public safety", and we are a little less free, and a little less American (at least, as I grew up with that notion).

No, I am not arguing that we should be able to get behind the wheel, blind-drunk and liable to commit homicide. But there has got to be a balance of safety vs. freedon way in the fark towards the freedom side of things.

Last year, there was a law passed in California that made it a crime to drive with a pet in your lap. Really, we need this?

All these little regs are imposing more and more into the spaces of our life where we just want to be left the fark alone, and more and more they are pissing me off.

///Sorry, I know I am ranting, and ranting means my grammar suffers...

vertiaset: They should add (if they haven't already):

1. eating
2. putting on make up
3. yelling at or spanking kids
4. changing diapers
5. shaving
6. fumbling with CD cases looking for a CD

I have seen each of these things nearly cause a serious accident.

Some of those are pretty ridiculous ... but if the people doing some those things didn't nearly cause a serious accident, would you even care or notice?

I wonder what the ratio is between stupid things people do while driving and stupid things that people do while driving that actually cause accidents.

I don't see a problem. I'm from New Jersey and the accidents caused by people texting, talking and fumbling with shiat is pretty high. Set your destination and you're off. If you go off course, your GPS should re-calculate. If you need to change destination or something else, pull into a parking lot or have a passenger do it.

I have $1200 damage to my front fender because some chick would rather text than pay attention to what lane she was in while attemping to make a turn.

hmmm is this for an external GPS or OEM? My car radio and GPS unit are all in one. How will they know if I'm changing the radio station or finding my local whore house?

Bomb Head Mohammed: Here's a wacky idea - why not set driving (a network activity) laws ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL where they belong (just like every other country on the face of the earth and just like for all other network things such as power, the FCC, railroads, and so forth) instead of giving every two-bit politician the ability to pull crap like this? Why the hell do states not get together and say - you know what? We could trim $20 million off our budgets if we just unified these laws and testing procedures. would it REALLY be that hard?

I'm pretty sure the founding fathers wanted GPS usage laws to be decided on the state level.

Barbecue Bob: B A: Oh goody. Cops can talk on the radio, use a cell phone, use a GPS, and operate a laptop while driving emergency traffic but I'm supposed to pull my ambulance over, shut down the siren and use a GPS to get directions to a patients house in the country while said patient has a heart attack. BRILLIANT piece of legislation!
Before you start yelling: NO, we're not afforded the same priveleges as cops and YES they can give us tickets for doing things that they get away with daily.

So farking true it's pathetic.
Cops, at least here in Denver, do not follow the traffic laws they very quickly enforce.

Lead by example or don't farking lead asshats.

...and I can't believe we pay our tax money to dolts like the prick in TFA to think shiit like this up. Waste of our valueable resourses.

THIS. Anecdotal: I was on the highway the other day - about 7:00 at night, actually doing the speed limit for a change, since I was driving in an area known for the cop sitting in the bushes. I was the only car around. Out of nowhere, cop comes up from behind me and passes me, easily got me beat by 15-20 mph, no lights, no siren. I could see him for miles ahead of me continuing at his high rate of speed, apparently not on his way to a call.

As for the politicians... How about a law that would provide for 10x the penalties and fines, immediate removal from office, and 100 hours of picking up garbage on the highways if they are caught breaking the law? After all, those laws are there for everyone's safety and protection, right? And if you don't do anything wrong, you shouldn't have to worry about the penalties, right?

I see cops talking on cell phones while driving all the time yet it's illegal for you and I.

Barbecue Bob: B A: Oh goody. Cops can talk on the radio, use a cell phone, use a GPS, and operate a laptop while driving emergency traffic but I'm supposed to pull my ambulance over, shut down the siren and use a GPS to get directions to a patients house in the country while said patient has a heart attack. BRILLIANT piece of legislation!
Before you start yelling: NO, we're not afforded the same priveleges as cops and YES they can give us tickets for doing things that they get away with daily.

So farking true it's pathetic.
Cops, at least here in Denver, do not follow the traffic laws they very quickly enforce.

Lead by example or don't farking lead asshats.

...and I can't believe we pay our tax money to dolts like the prick in TFA to think shiit like this up. Waste of our valueable resourses.

//Yeah, yeah, grammer Nazi me all u want.

Yeah, Friday I watched a Galveston cop, driving a "Community Service Van" with no lights or siren, pull into the left turn lane on Harbourside @ 25th and pass traffic through the red light continuing on down Harbourside. Good example there officer.

LindyJohn: No, I am not arguing that we should be able to get behind the wheel, blind-drunk and liable to commit homicide. But there has got to be a balance of safety vs. freedon way in the fark towards the freedom side of things.

Last year, there was a law passed in California that made it a crime to drive with a pet in your lap. Really, we need this?

This.

If these measures were actually in place to make things safer rather than just bring in money, I'm sure the laws would be written quite differently.

Is it really necessary to have such specific laws? Can't this fall under the guise of "reckless" or "imprudent" driving? I suppose such vague wording could lead to a lot of lawsuits contesting the charges, so maybe there is a better way of phrasing it. I mean, if you are driving with a pet in your lap and nothing happens, who cares? Isn't it really only an issue when you become an actual danger to the people around you? I guess there isn't a good way to determine what is an "actual" danger.

flakeyblakee: How will they know if I'm changing the radio station or finding my local whore house?

Wrong question, comrade. How will you prove you weren't using the GPS?

That will be $100.

hovsm: There is a fine line between laws that protect and laws that enhance the city's bank account.


Fixed.


Where I live we have "quality of life" fines for such things having upholstered furniture and having your garbage tote too close to the front of your house ($58 fine I think) Meantime, drug, prostitution, open container violations go unchecked.

And city owned properties with high grass? Thats ok!


Its all about the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Taxcheat: Wrong question, comrade. How will you prove you weren't using the GPS?

Innocent until proven guilty surrenders.

As for the politicians... How about a law that would provide for 10x the penalties and fines, immediate removal from office, and 100 hours of picking up garbage on the highways if they are caught breaking the law? After all, those laws are there for everyone's safety and protection, right? And if you don't do anything wrong, you shouldn't have to worry about the penalties, right?

I firmly believe that if you are President, Mayor, a member of Congress, or any other elected position, state and federal, and are caught breaking the law. Doesn't matter if it's a leash law at the park or murder, there is no "Well, I'm an elected official" and getting out of it bullshiat. Instead the punishment you face is the maximum allowed punishment, automatically. In the case of speeding preferred judication or defensive driving is not allowed.

The sad thing is, this would have to made into law, and this effects law makers, so there is no way in hell this would ever happen. Even if I got elected to Congress with this as a promise the rest of the members of Congress would kill it instantly.

farkuufarkinfark: Barbecue Bob: B A: Oh goody. Cops can talk on the radio, use a cell phone, use a GPS, and operate a laptop while driving emergency traffic but I'm supposed to pull my ambulance over, shut down the siren and use a GPS to get directions to a patients house in the country while said patient has a heart attack. BRILLIANT piece of legislation!
Before you start yelling: NO, we're not afforded the same priveleges as cops and YES they can give us tickets for doing things that they get away with daily.

So farking true it's pathetic.
Cops, at least here in Denver, do not follow the traffic laws they very quickly enforce.

Lead by example or don't farking lead asshats.

...and I can't believe we pay our tax money to dolts like the prick in TFA to think shiit like this up. Waste of our valueable resourses.

THIS. Anecdotal: I was on the highway the other day - about 7:00 at night, actually doing the speed limit for a change, since I was driving in an area known for the cop sitting in the bushes. I was the only car around. Out of nowhere, cop comes up from behind me and passes me, easily got me beat by 15-20 mph, no lights, no siren. I could see him for miles ahead of me continuing at his high rate of speed, apparently not on his way to a call.

As for the politicians... How about a law that would provide for 10x the penalties and fines, immediate removal from office, and 100 hours of picking up garbage on the highways if they are caught breaking the law? After all, those laws are there for everyone's safety and protection, right? And if you don't do anything wrong, you shouldn't have to worry about the penalties, right?

He should really get a car.

Can't it just be made harder to get a license? Does everyone with a pulse need to have one, as this is the direct outcome of that philosophy.

So we end up with laws where we're not allowed to do what a 90 year old man or a 17 year old girl can't manage to do when behind the wheel.

/can read the paper while driving on the interstate
//helps keep me awake

WHY DO THEY HATE MUTE PEOPLE?
seriously, this law is all up in mute people's face all like "you can't talk biatches!!!"

austerity101
Is it really necessary to have such specific laws? Can't this fall under the guise of "reckless" or "imprudent" driving? I suppose such vague wording could lead to a lot of lawsuits contesting the charges, so maybe there is a better way of phrasing it. I mean, if you are driving with a pet in your lap and nothing happens, who cares? Isn't it really only an issue when you become an actual danger to the people around you? I guess there isn't a good way to determine what is an "actual" danger.

I absolutely agree with you. One reckless driving law should really cover it.

Taxcheat: flakeyblakee: How will they know if I'm changing the radio station or finding my local whore house?

Wrong question, comrade. How will you prove you weren't using the GPS?

That will be $100.

thats exactly it: your word against the cops. Which we had when hubby got a speeding ticket a few years ago. It actually registered another car (we think) doing 45mph and they claimed it was hubby. He was going maybe 33 in a 30.

The cops kept him on the edge of the road in -2 tempratures for 20 minites breathalizing him and trying to find anything else to get him for (and then writing the speeding ticket) and actually made him ill enough he almost couldn't actually drive home afterwords.

We tried to contest it and get the officer reprimanded for being inconsiderate and got told that he would likely end up with no license and a much larger fine if he formally took it further.

They don't care about truth, just quotas and money.

/yes, not all cops are that bad.

Why don't they just ban operating a motor vehicle while either being incompetant or a woman but I repeat myself

If you go off course, your GPS should re-calculate.

I have to press a button sometimes to make it recalculate. Pressing that button would be illegal. There's also a button that is supposed to make it route around a traffic jam. Pressing that button would be illegal. And I have to press a button to zoom in or out to see what it's trying to tell me. And I have to press a button to enter nav mode from radio mode. Is pressing that button, to activate the GPS, illegal? What about pressing the lawyer button to say that using the nav system may kill me? What about pressing the button to leave GPS and go back into radio mode? It's all the same set of buttons, some fixed and some mode sensitive, no matter which mode I'm in. If I turn off the radio/nav system in GPS mode it comes back on in GPS mode. So under New Jersey law I couldn't turn the radio back on until I stopped my car.

Lawyers have already castrated my GPS when the car is in motion.

<b><a target="_blank" href="http://www.fark.com/cgi/comments.pl?IDLink=4461877&IDComment=52105885#c521 05885">Enfenestrate</a>:</b> <i>I'm pretty sure <strike>the founding fathers</strike> <B>jesus</B> wanted GPS usage laws to be decided on the state level.</i>

FTFY. At least, I would have if FARK LET ME POST HTML.

Smeggy Smurf: Why don't they just ban operating a motor vehicle while either being incompetant or a woman but I repeat myself

FTFY

You can't ban motor vehicles. If they did that their revenue from DUI would dry up.

We have enough laws. We don't need any more. Hey, I got this idea, let's enforce the ones we have for a change.

Yes, because looking down at a map, which you have to read and interpret, is much safer.

Boobiesontheside: We have enough laws. We don't need any more. Hey, I got this idea, let's enforce the ones we have for a change.

Because the politicians in power would rather create little laws like these, and ones named after littles girls who died, so when it comes time for re-election they can name a shiat load of feel good laws and get re-elected.