Iran protests: live
A week after the disputed poll, Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei led Friday prayers today in an attempt to quell continuing anger at the re-election of president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Follow live updates
The Guardian (UK) (new window)

Inside Iran: Live Blog Twitter Feed
Sky News (UK) (new window)

LATEST STORIES ON IRAN
Reuters (new window)

http://english.aljazeera.net/

http://iran.whyweprotest.net/

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Her Name Was Neda
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/6/20/745005/-Her-Name-Was-Neda.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2276090/posts
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/seafan/3143
http://michellemalkin.com/2009/06/21/they-killed-neda-but-not-her-voice/

Courtesy of Witchydiva

Highlights of 6/20/09:

Protestors were violently blocked today from getting to Azadi and Englehab Squares by massive armed presence. This seems to be a direct result of Khamenei's speech and orders to meet protestors with violence. Protests happened in cities all over the country, and have been met with brutality. There are reports of protestors fighting back, even having burned down at least one Basij headquarter. One mosque was burned in Tehran with protestors inside it, though casualties are not known.

The government report that a suicide bomber struck at the shrine of Imam Khomeini, inflicting heavy damage and deaths, have NOT been verified. Iranian TV has been airing videoed "confessions" of Iranian youth saying that they had been recruited and trained to cause this disturbance by the UK, Israeli, and US governments.

Confirmed:
- at least 19 deaths, including what is becoming an iconic video of a young woman's graphic death
- authorities using water cannons, tear gas, and clubs on protestors (male and female, with some reports that the women are being beaten as hard if not harder than the men)
- helicopters dropping some sort of agent on protestors (likely CS). Khamenei claimed it was water to cool the protestors, Twitter reports that it burned and blinded people (it was NOT white phosphorous - burning sensation was consistent with CS)
- Basij using concrete-weighted PVC pipes as weapons.
- Basij marking doorways of protestor's homes
- At least one unit of the Iranian Police begged protestors for calm and peace
- Ministry of Culture on Saturday banned international media from reporting on the demonstrations unless they receive permission from Iranian authorities
- Iranian government has agreed to recount 10% of the votes, chosen at random
- Electricity was cut to many Tehran neighbourhoods on Saturday evening
- Mousavi issued a long statement today that asked protestors to remain peaceful (and not take revenge on the Basij), and demanded a new election. He also stated his readiness to become a martyr and asked iranians to strike in the event of his arrest.
- Hospitals have been recognized as unsafe, as Basij are laying in wait and taking injured people away

Courtesy of somedude210

Things We're Gathering More Information/Confirmation On:

-Tanks moving into Tehran. More tweets coming in confirming the tanks. We don't know if its IRG, Army, or Basij using them. PK, CfI and knv have said that they do not know of any armored units moving into the city. PK believes its a hoax sent out by the government. Those that claimed to have seen it are RTs or 5+ hours old
-Basij waiting outside embassies for wounded. Sparse reports of it, not considered confirmed yet
-Whether or not Hizbollah from outside Iran has come to the government's aid. We have reason to believe Iranian Hizbollah (Anser) is being used. No confirmation on Lebanese Hizbollah or Hamas, rumors abound though of arabic speaking police, sparking this.
-What is occuring in other cities around Iran, such as Rasht
-Whether earlier reports of a section of Tehran (Eastern, I believe) was secured by protesters. They could very well have secured it at one point, but it could've been lost, not that light has fallen
-Acid from helicopters still thought to be tear gas/CS gas plus water. Symptoms seem to be consistent with those.
-Khemeini reported to have been taken to a military base for safety
-The status of the military and whether the Army and IRG are going to come out against the government. The IRG is the new police force, but it is rumored that they refuse to fire on civilians. One of the Grand Ayatollahs, who is against the SA, claims to have the backing of the army. more confirmations are needed
-Whether the report from the Assembly of Experts was a hoax or not regarding their support of the Supreme Ayatollah. If so, what is the statement from them
-Mullahs marching with protesters in Mashdad
- Several Embassies are accepting injured iranians, and have asked for doctors to come forward

Latest version of Tatsuma's summary:

https://sites.google.com/site/tatsumairanupdate/ (new window)

This is good . Mine were funny but bitter. Trolls had me in a bad mood.

Courtesy of casey17

BBC PERSIAN TV AND RADIO (new window)


FAKE TWEETERS (new window)


TWEET GRID (new window)

OTHER GOOD INFO:

ANONYMOUS IRAN (new window)

Mr. Cabron: This is good . Mine were funny but bitter. Trolls had me in a bad mood.

Perfectly understandable.

Courtesy of UNC_Samurai

Fark Revolutionary Armed Forces:

The 1st Joint Task Conundrum "Combining operations to keep the important bits separate.":
The 101st Chairborne Infantry Division - "Duty, Honor, 127.0.0.1"
58008th SAC Squadron - "The skies are cleared for weird"
The 1337th Fighting Keyboards Mechanized Division - "From dev/null We Stab At Thee"

The 32nd Mechanized Heavy Farktillery Division:
522 Heavy Farktillery Brigade - "Baffle them with brilliance, or bombard them with bullshiat."
51st Farktillery Brigade - "If we run out of shells, we'll start firing the empty pony kegs"

The 69th Counter Psych-Ops Division:
23rd Mostly Unashamed Fark Furry Fireteam - "That's not my screen shot! Anyone got some Newcastle?"
302nd Eye Bleach Brigade - "The 23rd was never here."
301st Internet Propaganda Machine Core - "Bringing you the truth, no matter how bad it hurts."

The 82nd Airwaves Assault Communications Division:
316th IRL Public Affairs Brigade "Repeating the news for those too stupid to watch."
303rd Internet Media Propaganda Regiment: "Bringing you the Truth, no matter how bad it hurts".
140th Character Twit-Militia: "No, we don't get paid, but at least we can tweet about it"

The 1024th Binary Operations Corps:
501st Hacktivists Division - "What's that on our webp... OH GOD, MY EYES! KILL IT WITH FIRE!"
404th Logistical Support Battalion (proxies) - "We Hide With Pride So Others May Be Found"
50th Tactical Torrent Brigade - "We Seed so you don't have to!"
4077th Photoshop Division - "The Few, the Proud, the Digitally Insane"

The 22nd Anti-Personnel Division:
32nd Onion Ring & Bean Dip Chemical Weapons Brigade - "Silent and Deadly"
13th Tinfoil Helmet Brigade - "Semper Fnord"
52nd Mis-Information Troll Brigade - "Water is wet. Response: To some, yes, but that's what they want you to think"

Independent Operational Units:
The 22nd BoB Division. Belligerent Old Bastards - "Shouting at Clouds, Chugging MoM, Get Off the Lawn"
The 81st Carpal Tunnelers, "Depth Chargers"
The 14th Fark Lite Brigade - "Charging In As Soon As It's Green"
The 3rd Digital Peaceniks Division - "You have to listen to us, but at least you don't have to smell us."
The 42nd Anglo-French Silly Walking Python Ballistics Regiment. Motto:"Fetchez la vache"
The 505th F5 Lurkers Squadron - "Filling the skies with the F5"
The 4th Channel Clerical /b/rigade - "The power of the Lulz compels you!"
Farktography Special Detachment f/16 - "Elsinore's Whores"
TotalFark Marine BSOD Squadron -- "Esprit De Core Dump"
Special Investigations: Tatsuma Unit - "Because sleep isn't Kosher."
Fark Corps of Engineers, "Hell's Angles" - "Blowing your F*cking mind"
Copypastian Task Force: "Reposting things that we breaking news 24 hours ago (still 24 hrs AHEAD of CNN)"
Lurking Irregulars Tehran Twitter Division AKA Tube Rats (Motto: "We give a rat's a$$")
The Irregular Internet Militia - "Have blog, will post about it"
Fark Anarchist Brigade: Because orders are for pussies
Special Forces who are simply Anonymous - "Alone, Unarmed, Unafraid"
UltraFark Intelligence Agency
Rapid Initially Forming Fark Rear Area Fighting Force
Secret Muslin Support Battalion

i like the new info organization. real blackout of any new info out of iran right now, as the reliable tweeters are offline.

the twitterverse is awash in RTs and conjecture. now we wait.

QUESTION

I just setup a proxy on my PC based on the configuration files here. How can I test that it's working properly?

Sergio_Van_Lukenstein: TWEET GRID (new window)

Is it a stupid question to ask how many of those in the tweet grid are confirmed good sources (besides the topic following in the last column)?

Hopefully this one will fly, unlike the others.

Is this really necessary? The other thread has like two trolls in it. That's it.

mamoru: Sergio_Van_Lukenstein: TWEET GRID (new window)

Is it a stupid question to ask how many of those in the tweet grid are confirmed good sources (besides the topic following in the last column)?

No, it's not. But honestly, I don't know the answer to that question. I'm just reposting this info on behalf of other people who have gone to bed.

IronTony: Is this really necessary? The other thread has like two trolls in it. That's it.

it'll be a nice, fresh thread for the morning.

Courtesy of birdtongue

TV feeds / video
Link (new window); BBC Persian livestream in Farsi, with frequent videos and stills of the protests & related
Link (new window); BBC World News livestream in English, occasional recaps, actual interviews
Link (new window); BBC News livestream in English, occasional recaps [apparently may redirect to NSFW sites w/o Adblock on]
Link (new window); Press TV -- Live Iranian Int'l news station in English
Link (new window); Al-Jazeera English -- Live Iranian Int'l news station in English [requires Realplayer; mirror (new window) doesn't]
Link (new window); youtube channel with footage from citizen journalists in Iran

Text w/ media links
Link (new window); the all-in-one Tweetgrid
Link (new window); Guardian UK news blog, frequently updated with media and interviews
Link (new window); NY Times news blog, frequently updated with media and interviews from others
Link (new window); Inside of Iran -- a selective aggregate of articles on the situation, both blogger and 'official' mass media
Link (new window); Tehran Bureau: "...a virtual [...] independent news organization." boston.com article (new window) about the lady running it
Link (new window); Juan Cole's blog, collecting a bit of everything, analysis but many sources as well - hosts translation of Khamenei's second speech at Friday noon prayers
Link (new window); Nico Pitney's blogpost "Live-blogging the Uprising", frequently updated events and media

Photo-heavy
Link (new window); TehranLive.org -- photos & occasional video of peaceful protests, rioting and crackdown
Link (new window); Picasaweb album -- photos of peaceful protests
Link (new window); flickrstream of protests, many crowd shots
Link (new window); Iran after the Election -- "blog to act as repository for all media." offers zips of photos hosted

Basic info
Link (new window); current local time in Tehran
Link (new window); initial map of protests in Iran -- if I understood correctly, BBC Persia had additional sites
Link (new window); information graphic of Iran's political system
Link (new window); write-up of the current situation and relevant history, frequently updated; torrentlist of protest videos

Motivators
Link (new window); Poem for the Rooftops [video]
Link (new window); "political" "cartoon"

Link (pops); video of a young woman dying after being shot in the throat. mirror at 2:37pm update (pops) [NSFW] the same young woman, already dead. (new window) [NSFW] stills (new window)
"In the video I saw, you see her body hitch just before the blood comes out of her mouth. I'm haunted by that very image - along with her eyes staring into the camera as life leaves her body...
---
Good. Remember that. But also remember what else was there. What you saw was a tragedy, but it was beauty. At that spot, a dozen strangers came to her. They united around her. They made sure that not only did she not die in vain, but she did not die alone. It was at that moment that she left, they came together. Remember that too. That'll keep you sane. It worked for me."

Action
Link (new window); torrentlist of videos
[http://blog.austinheap.com/2009/06/15/how-to-setup-a-proxy-for-iran-citizens-f o r-windows/] Instructions for setting up a Windows Proxy
[http://blog.austinheap.com/2009/06/15/how-to-setup-a-proxy-for-iran-citizens] Instructions for setting up a Linux Proxy
Link (new window); 'This forum aims to be a secure and reliable way of communication for Iranians and friends. [...] backed by thepiratebay.org, Anonymous, and numerous other internet-friendly forces."

Important info
Link (new window); updating blogpost of suspected cointel/spamming Twitter accounts
Link (new window); list of foreign embassies in Iran accepting wounded [if true, advise caution - likely to be interference as they are known locations]
Link (new window); how to treat chemical warfare agents

someone please host this info concisely somewhere: ""Tear gas" comes in many different forms, but a solution of 5% baking soda/sodium bicarbonate (جوش شیرین ) to 95% water is cheap and effective, neutralizing many of them. If at all possible, the solution should be cold -- warm water will open pores in the skin, causing the chemicals to be absorbed more quickly. Keep a spray bottle with you if you can. In a pinch, breathing a chopped or crushed onion in a paper bag can cause the eyes to water and flush some of the CS out. CS is fat soluble, so do not treat tear gas or CS attacks with Vaseline, oils or any oily creams/lotions, since this will only spread the irritant and allow it to stick to the skin. Cold water, air and time are the only effective antidotes. Get the victim to a cold shower or a garden hose as quickly as you can. Asthmatics should warn their colleagues about their condition ahead of time, so that they are prepared to remove you from the area if necessary."

Comment & Analysis
Link (new window); (Daily Dish) Andrew Sullivan's blog entry "Live-Tweeting the Revolution" -- selective(?) aggregate of tweets, photos of peace and violence
Link (new window); Ryan Mauro's blog, with perspective prior to the elections, quality-looking articles

Bucky Katt: IronTony: Is this really necessary? The other thread has like two trolls in it. That's it.

it'll be a nice, fresh thread for the morning.

Speaking of which, happy fathers day, I think I'm hitting the sack.

Bucky Katt: IronTony: Is this really necessary? The other thread has like two trolls in it. That's it.

it'll be a nice, fresh thread for the morning.

Yes, we can just leave this thread alone for now. We've got all the info posts set for the beginning of this thread. It'll be here for everyone when we wake up in the morning.

Please everyone read this before posting in the thread. So we can organize the first page of the thread. Also the guidelines to keep large chunks of information together in the first page so people who are new, can understand better what is going on. Thanks!

Guidelines:

1. Try not to post until Tatsuma's posts are up. If there is posts, please wait until all are posted so they can stay together in order, either by him or by others posting for him. Then after Tatsuma's posts are up next should be posted is birdtongue's links, please if someone does it for birdtongue that they have the links working, and Tickle Mittens' Torrent List Post, and finally The FARK Revolutionary Armed Forces. Or anything that can be a positive to the thread that is somewhat up to date that is a large post. Then everyone can post.

2. If posting Tweets, bold them, and write who's tweet it is or initials of the tweeter would be preferred.

3. If people have answers for tweets that will help people in Iran or in this thread, please bold it as well.

4. Ignore trolls please, don't respond to them. Thanks.

5. If anyone post links please try to make them in a new window, not all the time it works though so just try.

6. If anyone needs to post stuff about Proxy's and what not please bold as well.

7. Anything urgent please bold.

If anyone feels like there should be more guidelines tell me. Thanks.

Stuff to help with this thread/catch up on what is going on with Iran:

Besides reading the rules/guidelines of this thread to help catching up with Iran, or wanting to know more please read the first page of the thread.

If you want to show your support of Iran by changing the color of your font to green. Use this code:

[font color="#009933"]like this[/font] (Change the [] to code brackets.) (Thanks belgiumguy for the code)

There are some good sites to go to for information here are some: (If you think there should be more tell me and I'll add them)

Links: These links can help you know why Iran is protesting, and to help others in the threads to get more information as you do.

Why We Protest (new window)

Iran Proxy Settings (new window)

Tweet Grid (new window) - Allows one to follow more than one person twitting.

Twit Spam (new window) - Helps figure out who is Tweeting is legit or not.

Google Translate (new window) - Helps one translate Farsi or other languages into English. Note: If Klymen is around he can help translate if you ask nicely.

Piarte Bay (new window) - Can find clips of Iran, and other items.

http://www.4chan.org/ - For some reason I can't make it a link.

Flickr (new window) - For photos

Links: These links give out information when they can get it, and give good coverage of what is going on in Iran.

Huffington Post (new window)

Worldthreats.com (new window)

The Daily Dish (new window)

thememriblog (new window)

Kodoom (new window) - There is an English and Farsi version of the site.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/ - Can't link.

Her Name Was Neda (new window)

Any links I should remove add, or add a caption to please tell me. Thanks

bberg: QUESTION

I just setup a proxy on my PC based on the configuration files here. How can I test that it's working properly?

Yeah, same question here.

don't know why the link dropped in the big post, but here it is again:
Link (new window); updating blogpost of suspected cointel/spamming Twitter accounts [http://twitspam.org/?p=1403]

johne3819: bberg: QUESTION

I just setup a proxy on my PC based on the configuration files here. How can I test that it's working properly?

Yeah, same question here.

Make sure 127.0.0.1 is allowed.
Set your browsers proxy setting to 127.0.0.1 and the port you configured.

Link (new window)

What gas could that be they are releasing upon the protesters? Any ideas? (see link)

Lollipop165: Link (new window)

What gas could that be they are releasing upon the protesters? Any ideas? (see link)

The other thread that is still going on said it is either tear gas or pepper spray, not acid because the metal would change color or erode or something like that. I can't think of anything else it could be.

demonfaerie: Please everyone read this before posting in the thread. So we can organize the first page of the thread. Also the guidelines to keep large chunks of information together in the first page so people who are new, can understand better what is going on. Thanks!

Guidelines:

1. Try not to post until

Is there a problem with the way that somedude210 did the last thread. It seemed fine to me. It certainly cut down on the arguments by not perpetuating discredited rumors.

Lollipop165: What gas could that be they are releasing upon the protesters? Any ideas? (see link)

Those reactions look exactly like someone exposed to CS.

/Been gassed a few times.

Jon Snow: demonfaerie: Please everyone read this before posting in the thread. So we can organize the first page of the thread. Also the guidelines to keep large chunks of information together in the first page so people who are new, can understand better what is going on. Thanks!

Guidelines:

1. Try not to post until

Is there a problem with the way that somedude210 did the last thread. It seemed fine to me. It certainly cut down on the arguments by not perpetuating discredited rumors.

We are working together. He would of posted this for me if I wasn't online and if he was. We basically are trying to get all the large chunks of information like Tatsuma's, etc... together on one page for everyone to read. Also if people have such huge information that it takes more post to post, we want those posts to stay together.

demonfaerie: The other thread that is still going on said it is either tear gas or pepper spray, not acid because the metal would change color or erode or something like that. I can't think of anything else it could be.

Well, there was a tweet that something was used that got worse when you tried to wash it off with water.

My first guess was lye.

haemaker:Make sure 127.0.0.1 is allowed.
Set your browsers proxy setting to 127.0.0.1 and the port you configured.

Perfect. Thank you. Add another proxy to the list, boys.

At first I was worried that I might be violating my DSL's terms of service. Then I hated myself for worrying about that shiat when Iranians are dying.

The_Flatline: demonfaerie: The other thread that is still going on said it is either tear gas or pepper spray, not acid because the metal would change color or erode or something like that. I can't think of anything else it could be.

Well, there was a tweet that something was used that got worse when you tried to wash it off with water.

My first guess was lye.

I didn't hear that, it might be. It is kind of hard to tell through video and tweets. We need a chemist.

demonfaerie: I didn't hear that, it might be. It is kind of hard to tell through video and tweets. We need a chemist.

There are an unfathomable number of chemical agents that are irritants. Without knowing a lot more information, it's impossible to tell.

However, since the military hasn't gotten involved yet, it's safe to venture it's either improvised or commercially available (ie available to police/law enforcement).

bberg: At first I was worried that I might be violating my DSL's terms of service.

You could be? I'm not, but I'm glad I read it again. I've seen one other person who got a call from their service provider about their spiked bandwidth, and in both cases the TOS was on our side.

The_Flatline: demonfaerie: I didn't hear that, it might be. It is kind of hard to tell through video and tweets. We need a chemist.

There are an unfathomable number of chemical agents that are irritants. Without knowing a lot more information, it's impossible to tell.

However, since the military hasn't gotten involved yet, it's safe to venture it's either improvised or commercially available (ie available to police/law enforcement).

That is true, unless they are getting it from someone that they don't want us to know where they got it from. Hard to tell with these folks. Probably in the next few days or so, we will find out what it is, or have a good idea.

Anyone else amused that this Link esquire writer openly admits to illegally DDoSing Iranian government websites?

Not that I'm not either ;)

KaelGotRice: Anyone else amused that this Link esquire writer openly admits to illegally DDoSing Iranian government websites?

Not that I'm not either ;)

One more thing before bed. Please don't do this. It's tempting, I know, but it saps the Iranian bandwidth, which is used for things like Twitter and Facebook. There's only so much space on lines going in and out of the country.

Squirm: bberg: At first I was worried that I might be violating my DSL's terms of service.

You could be? I'm not, but I'm glad I read it again. I've seen one other person who got a call from their service provider about their spiked bandwidth, and in both cases the TOS was on our side.

My ISP called, too. I told them what I was up to, that I wasn't violating the TOS, and offered to pay for more bandwidth... their response was, "Don't worry about it. You're not the only one." I love locally owned ISPs.

demonfaerie: That is true, unless they are getting it from someone that they don't want us to know where they got it from. Hard to tell with these folks. Probably in the next few days or so, we will find out what it is, or have a good idea.

That's pure speculation at this point, and even then rational thought suggests that it's highly unlikely. After all, if Iran was getting unconventional munitions supplied to it secretly, it'd be wanting other things/personnel which might help secure the situation quicker.

So far, their response has been blunt, violent, and without any subtlety, finesse, or finality.

We'll see if the military weighs in, which will change things, but shy of that, it's amazing just how... hollow... the Iranian power establishment really is without the military.

peridinos: KaelGotRice: Anyone else amused that this Link esquire writer openly admits to illegally DDoSing Iranian government websites?

Not that I'm not either ;)

One more thing before bed. Please don't do this. It's tempting, I know, but it saps the Iranian bandwidth, which is used for things like Twitter and Facebook. There's only so much space on lines going in and out of the country.

I've heard it's fine if you balance it out with proxies.

Fark the Iranian propaganda websites. When SA and 4chan were on them hard they were down for hours straight.

Ung....almost 4am....
Defunct Drunken Medic Corps member signing off for the night
"Please don't bleed on the paperwork"

Hai guys wuts going on in dis thread?

KaelGotRice: Anyone else amused that this Link esquire writer openly admits to illegally DDoSing Iranian government websites?

Not that I'm not either ;)

The offending party would have to file charges in a case like that. Iranian government's a bit too busy right now. The new regime won't care once they're in and NO prosecutor's going to do anything on the word of the failed state if they manage somehow to hold onto power.

I SMOKE MARIJUANA!
I KILLED A MAN IN RENO JUST TO WATCH HIM DIE!

Easy defense there. "I was just making a joke online" or "I was trying to look cool" or something like that. Just claim you were talking and not doing. Can you prove I actually did it? No? Case dismissed.

If you guys have chem questions throw em this way

The_Flatline: demonfaerie: That is true, unless they are getting it from someone that they don't want us to know where they got it from. Hard to tell with these folks. Probably in the next few days or so, we will find out what it is, or have a good idea.

That's pure speculation at this point, and even then rational thought suggests that it's highly unlikely. After all, if Iran was getting unconventional munitions supplied to it secretly, it'd be wanting other things/personnel which might help secure the situation quicker.

So far, their response has been blunt, violent, and without any subtlety, finesse, or finality.

We'll see if the military weighs in, which will change things, but shy of that, it's amazing just how... hollow... the Iranian power establishment really is without the military.

True, if they had the military on their side, it would of been over days ago. Which is good.

demonfaerie: The_Flatline: demonfaerie: The other thread that is still going on said it is either tear gas or pepper spray, not acid because the metal would change color or erode or something like that. I can't think of anything else it could be.

Well, there was a tweet that something was used that got worse when you tried to wash it off with water.

My first guess was lye.

I didn't hear that, it might be. It is kind of hard to tell through video and tweets. We need a chemist.

Tear gas can mimic lye, however they are both treatable with vinegar so it doesn't matter much.

Daddakamabb: If you guys have chem questions throw em this way

Any idea what they are spraying them with. They say it isn't tear gas, but who knows.

Link (new window)

Squirm: bberg: At first I was worried that I might be violating my DSL's terms of service.

You could be? I'm not, but I'm glad I read it again. I've seen one other person who got a call from their service provider about their spiked bandwidth, and in both cases the TOS was on our side.

I'm sure I am. "You also may not...use the Service to host any type of server."

Fark 'em. That was my point. People are dying and need to be able to communicate with the world, and I'm sitting here worrying about losing my DSL connection and having to switch to cable? Fark that.

Besides, I've had my inbound and outbound connection maxed out for weeks at a time for torrents and newsgroups. If they see a spike they'll probably just think I'm downloading more porn^H^H^H^H^H Linux ISOs

demonfaerie: Daddakamabb: If you guys have chem questions throw em this way

Any idea what they are spraying them with. They say it isn't tear gas, but who knows.

Link (new window)

IT could be liquid tear gas. There is a aerosol form and then liquid. The liquid form can cause blisters and burning if not treated right away. Anyone who's ever been in the military can tell you that if you have tear gas on you the absolute last thing you want to do is try to wash it off. Vinegar or if it's only the aerosol form then just sit around for 30 mins and deal with the pain.

Daddakamabb: Tear gas can mimic lye, however they are both treatable with vinegar so it doesn't matter much.

I wasn't aware of that. It's good to know. Thanks for coming in and giving me that intel.

I know there's dozens of different "tear gasses", so maybe this one is a more caustic variant.

The_Flatline: Daddakamabb: Tear gas can mimic lye, however they are both treatable with vinegar so it doesn't matter much.

I wasn't aware of that. It's good to know. Thanks for coming in and giving me that intel.

I know there's dozens of different "tear gasses", so maybe this one is a more caustic variant.

If you do not own vinegar then tomato juice, orange juice, lemon juice even farking onions can help soothe the pain.

Squirm: You're doing fabulously, then. Keep it up, and thank you! :)

I'm most pissed that I've got literally gigs upon gigs upon GIGS of tactical manuals and books and stuff like that on my computer (including a shiatload of medical and chemical textbooks) and I have NO idea how to get them into the hands of the people there if they even have the resources to read a bunch of PDF files at this point...

PS, I've officially abandoned the public thread. Discussion has completely fallen apart and it is just trolling and flaming.