Ooooh, yikes, that's gotta burn.

To quote another thread:

"Boom goes the dynamite"

Paul Begala may be an annoying little twerp, but he doesn't suffer fools lightly.

FTFA: ...to which McCain responded blithely "you know I wasn't born yet so I wouldn't know." Going in for the kill, Begala fired back "I wasn't born during the French Revolution but I know about it."

Oh, SNAP!

She should have slapped him with her hair.

To be fair to McCain, knowing Reagan spent years blaming Carter (largely for things that weren't Carter's fault in the first place) is pretty specific. Along the lines of knowing when a specific person was executed during the French Revolution, rather than know that it occurred.

Neeek: To be fair to McCain, knowing Reagan spent years blaming Carter (largely for things that weren't Carter's fault in the first place) is pretty specific. Along the lines of knowing when a specific person was executed during the French Revolution, rather than know that it occurred.

Just watch the show over at YouTube...there's nothing to be fair about: She's a complete dumbass that should stay behind the keyboard or STFU. All she did was sit there saying, "Oh my gawwwwd, my friends all, like, hate me for coming on this show!".

In her defense, she is hot... pics?

Forty-Two: FTFA: ...to which McCain responded blithely "you know I wasn't born yet so I wouldn't know." Going in for the kill, Begala fired back "I wasn't born during the French Revolution but I know about it."

Oh, SNAP!

I'll see his "I know a thing or two about the French Revolution" and raise him a "I know not only WHEN New Amsterdam was changed to New-York, but WHY, and also the fact that the hyphen in 'New-York' is NOT an error on my part."

/the Iraq
//and such as

I might have had a sliver of sympathy if she hadn't spent the past several months parading herself from talk show to talk show.

So, she has more boobs than brains? Whodathunk.

Neeek: To be fair to McCain, knowing Reagan spent years blaming Carter (largely for things that weren't Carter's fault in the first place) is pretty specific. Along the lines of knowing when a specific person was executed during the French Revolution, rather than know that it occurred.

I'll bet you think Reagan was the first President of the United States.

King Something: I'll see his "I know a thing or two about the French Revolution" and raise him a "I know not only WHEN New Amsterdam was changed to New-York, but WHY, and also the fact that the hyphen in 'New-York' is NOT an error on my part."

Cool. When/why was this changed?

Forty-Two: FTFA: ...to which McCain responded blithely "you know I wasn't born yet so I wouldn't know." Going in for the kill, Begala fired back "I wasn't born during the French Revolution but I know about it."

Oh, SNAP!farkING THIS

King Something: Forty-Two: FTFA: ...to which McCain responded blithely "you know I wasn't born yet so I wouldn't know." Going in for the kill, Begala fired back "I wasn't born during the French Revolution but I know about it."

Oh, SNAP!

I'll see his "I know a thing or two about the French Revolution" and raise him a "I know not only WHEN New Amsterdam was changed to New-York, but WHY, and also the fact that the hyphen in 'New-York' is NOT an error on my part."

Maybe they liked it better that way?

/had to.

I think Meghan McCain needs to come to the same realization that a lot of us have: The Republican Party and its periphery (Fox News, et.al) are ideologically bankrupt. They are nothing anymore but a bunch of lost, crazed loons.

It's not that the left doesn't have these traits as well, they have DailyKos, DemocraticUnderground, Cynthia McKinney, et.al, but those are vestigial and non-representative of the whole movement. Right now the Republican party is characterized by:

1) People who still think that the current private healthcare system can work
2) People who actually think Barack Obama is a Socialist.
3) People who equate taking Plan B or RU486 with murder
4) People who believe that the Earth is literally 6000-12,000 years old.
5) People who think that the "best" way to fight terrorism is by almost solely treating its symptoms.
6) People who seem to understand that pathogens can develop resistance to drugs, but categorically deny the Theory of Evolution
7) People who describe putting terrorists in proper prisons in the U.S. as though it were enrolling them in a halfway house.
8) People who don't believe global warming is real.
9) People who think abstinence only education works.

The left has bullshiat, but their bullshiat is outweighed by sincere people with legitimate gripes and plausible solutions. The right is the reciprocal of that with a greater disparity. I can think of nothing off the top of my head that the Republicans have actually been right about in recent years. They're done, they're out of ideas. There is no "two equal but differing sides" thing.

This has literally distilled down to a debate between a Cardiac Surgeon and an Aromatherapist that also sells Mary Kay and HerbaLife over the best way to treat lung cancer. Neither one is a dead on perfect fit...but there is a definite and profound difference of qualification.

It's a vacuum of intellect, and conservative-leaning people like myself are adrift looking for something to coalesce and compromise around to form a reasonable and actionable conservative base.

Those who are ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it.

"Can't they just, y'know.. like.. eat bread or something?"

ZipSplat: I think Meghan McCain needs to come to the same realization that a lot of us have: The Republican Party and its periphery (Fox News, et.al) are ideologically bankrupt. They are nothing anymore but a bunch of lost, crazed loons.

It's not that the left doesn't have these traits as well, they have DailyKos, DemocraticUnderground, Cynthia McKinney, et.al, but those are vestigial and non-representative of the whole movement. Right now the Republican party is characterized by:

1) People who still think that the current private healthcare system can work
2) People who actually think Barack Obama is a Socialist.
3) People who equate taking Plan B or RU486 with murder
4) People who believe that the Earth is literally 6000-12,000 years old.
5) People who think that the "best" way to fight terrorism is by almost solely treating its symptoms.
6) People who seem to understand that pathogens can develop resistance to drugs, but categorically deny the Theory of Evolution
7) People who describe putting terrorists in proper prisons in the U.S. as though it were enrolling them in a halfway house.
8) People who don't believe global warming is real.
9) People who think abstinence only education works.

The left has bullshiat, but their bullshiat is outweighed by sincere people with legitimate gripes and plausible solutions. The right is the reciprocal of that with a greater disparity. I can think of nothing off the top of my head that the Republicans have actually been right about in recent years. They're done, they're out of ideas. There is no "two equal but differing sides" thing.

This has literally distilled down to a debate between a Cardiac Surgeon and an Aromatherapist that also sells Mary Kay and HerbaLife over the best way to treat lung cancer. Neither one is a dead on perfect fit...but there is a definite and profound difference of qualification.

It's a vacuum of intellect, and conservative-leaning people like myself are adrift looking for something to coalesce and compromise around to form a reasonable and actionable conservative base.


I was *almost* ready to say "THIS"... until your last sentence.

Exactly which conservative values do you find worthy of your support... that aren't alreay supported by the more conservative members within the Democrats?

She's supposed to be from the new generation of vibrant, fresh-faced upstarts ready to take charge and revive the brand, but she couldn't even respond to a comment about Reagan. Her head'll probably explode if someone explained the exploitation of racism Nixon started in the 70s with his Southern Strategy. I'd also like to know how her support for the Iranian people would be going if her Dad had his way and got to bomb-bomb-bomb Iran?

General Zang: It's a vacuum of intellect, and conservative-leaning people like myself are adrift looking for something to coalesce and compromise around to form a reasonable and actionable conservative base.


I was *almost* ready to say "THIS"... until your last sentence.

Exactly which conservative values do you find worthy of your support... that aren't alreay supported by the more conservative members within the Democrats?

THIS.

Tenebreux: Those who are ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it.

"Can't they just, y'know.. like.. eat bread or something?"


Yay! An excuse to drag this picture out again!

King Something: Forty-Two: FTFA: ...to which McCain responded blithely "you know I wasn't born yet so I wouldn't know." Going in for the kill, Begala fired back "I wasn't born during the French Revolution but I know about it."

Oh, SNAP!

I'll see his "I know a thing or two about the French Revolution" and raise him a "I know not only WHEN New Amsterdam was changed to New-York, but WHY, and also the fact that the hyphen in 'New-York' is NOT an error on my part."

Pedantic aspie is pedantic

glenlivid: Just watch the show over at YouTube...there's nothing to be fair about: She's a complete dumbass that should stay behind the keyboard or STFU. All she did was sit there saying, "Oh my gawwwwd, my friends all, like, hate me for coming on this show!".

Oh. My sound card is broken, so I've not been watching videos recently. Nevermind then.

Neeek: glenlivid: Just watch the show over at YouTube...there's nothing to be fair about: She's a complete dumbass that should stay behind the keyboard or STFU. All she did was sit there saying, "Oh my gawwwwd, my friends all, like, hate me for coming on this show!".

Oh. My sound card is broken, so I've not been watching videos recently. Nevermind then.



If anything, Neeek is being too kind.

Not only was she shown to be a dumbass, but when her attempt to deflect away from her dumbassness was shot down, she basically started whining about how brave she was to even be appearing on the show.

It was as if she felt that her extra credit points for appearing on a Liberal show where actual content was expected of guests, balanced out the fact that she didn't actually have any content.

I mean, hell, she *almost* appeared as if her next step was to start crying and say "please make the mean man stop talking about facts and stuff. It makes me sad."

I still have some respect for Meghan as one of the few people within the Republican party who are not anti-intellectuals. But she was nervous as hell up there last night, I felt bad for her.

And I agree with her and Begala both; for example, I don't get how the Obama administration wants to pull the, "oh, well we're the reluctant owners of GM," when they could've let it go bankrupt and blamed Bush.

Agree fully on Reagan, though.

erveek: Tenebreux: Those who are ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it.

"Can't they just, y'know.. like.. eat bread or something?"


Yay! An excuse to drag this picture out again!

Video game nerdy humour mixed with political history nerdy humour means I'm a big fan of whoever created that image.

deevo: I still have some respect for Meghan as one of the few people within the Republican party who are not anti-intellectuals. But she was nervous as hell up there last night, I felt bad for her.

And I agree with her and Begala both; for example, I don't get how the Obama administration wants to pull the, "oh, well we're the reluctant owners of GM," when they could've let it go bankrupt and blamed Bush.

Agree fully on Reagan, though.


But she's still kind of a know-nothing. I give her credit for respecting knowledge and education, but it doesn't mean she has it.

I don't wish her any ill will, but I don't think she's ready for primetime. She comes across as a nervous kid competing on College Jeopardy, and the blonde valley-girl voice inflection doesn't help.

She, Megan, does not exhibit a great level of intellectual depth or educational attainment.

I despise people who cling to the mantra, "We can't keep looking back to the past, and must move forward to tomorrow."

Sure, I understand the meaning of the phrase, but the context is a bit disingenuous, at the least. There are consequences for failure, and falling on the "we can't live in the past" is completely ridiculous.

Those who do not learn from the past...

shower_in_my_socks:

But she's still kind of a know-nothing. I give her credit for respecting knowledge and education, but it doesn't mean she has it.

I don't wish her any ill will, but I don't think she's ready for primetime. She comes across as a nervous kid competing on College Jeopardy, and the blonde valley-girl voice inflection doesn't help.

I agree with the "not ready for Primetime".

The whole "Oh I'm just a blond and you know everything" line was extremely childish and actually sort of irritated me.

I mean, it's one thing to not know something. Everyone has things they don't know about, or gaps in their knowledge.

But to see her get all sulky and defensive and to play the "oh poor me" card is not something that's going to get her any respect from anyone. I mean, guys might play along with that nonsense in the hopes of getting laid, but *nobody* actually respects someone who plays the "oh poor me" game.

Are the people she hangs out with normally, so easy to manipulate with the "gosh, I'm just a little lady, so you can't expect me to know facts and things like a man" shtick?

It's like looking through a doorway into the 1950s.

AgentOrangeDrink: Video game nerdy humour mixed with political history nerdy humour means I'm a big fan of whoever created that image.

Yeah, I nerdgasmed too.
It needs a very subtle eyeball pod thing in the background somewhere though. Or maybe replacing the rose she's holding.



btw, I found THIS while I was GIS-ing for GLaDOS. It's the coolest farking thing EVER. I need one. Now.

shower_in_my_socks: I don't wish her any ill will, but I don't think she's ready for primetime. She comes across as a nervous kid competing on College Jeopardy, and the blonde valley-girl voice inflection doesn't help.

I was immediately enamored upon her calling herself "Pro-Sex" (on the Colbert Report). I thought for such a young, attractive woman of a political family, the term was rather powerful and dangerous. Since she spoke, though, she seems to possess a nervousness which allows the lack of assurance in her nebulous statements to creep through. What might have been a vibrant figure to reclaim the term Conservative seems hidden beneath a girl impressed by the statements of her father's social circles.

She wants us to cease complaining about the horrible mismanagement of the country by the previous administration? This is the administration which had forced my parents, grandfathers, and aunts and uncles to vote Democrat, and to my knowledge each and every one of my extended family which I've ever associated with has voted Republican since they've been able to vote. Obama has had...half a year in office? Get something better to be enraged over.

Saw this on Maher. It was some pretty good pwnage.




In that same episode, I also thought Maher ripped the democrats pretty well for being a bunch of losers.

I saw Li'l Miss Meghan's performance on that show, and concluded she's a tool, much like the Young Conservative rappers she was calling lame in the same interview.

Her message was essentially the same in every sentence, like she was repeating talking points: The old days are over, young republicans like me will make all the difference, and we can't keep dwelling on the Bush administration's screw-ups....

Shenanigans, I call. Some focus group told her to go out and say these things to try to shed the well-deserved criticism due the GOP. She's trying to convince young people that the GOP is somehow not responsible, and that as long as hip young conservatives like her (or the Young Cons, presumably from the same Marketing Firm) mean the GOP is now different.

Bull. Shiat. Plain and simple. Her strings are being pulled by Daddy's focus groups.

Neeek: To be fair to McCain, knowing Reagan spent years blaming Carter (largely for things that weren't Carter's fault in the first place) is pretty specific. Along the lines of knowing when a specific person was executed during the French Revolution, rather than know that it occurred.

There is no "fair" here. She stuck her own foot in her own mouth. Begala just helped her swallow.

If she didn't know anything about it, she should've just kept her mouth shut and let him make his point, rather than OFFER, "Gee, I wasn't born yet, so I don't know about that."

Noooo. Instead, she had to try to slip in one more, "I'm-young-and-the-New-GOP^TM," and it backfired.

ZipSplat: It's not that the left doesn't have these traits as well, they have DailyKos, DemocraticUnderground, Cynthia McKinney, et.al,

...aaaaand any point you might have had was lost to painting Daily Kos as a crazy lunatic fringe site.

DU, McKinney, William Jefferson, hell, even Michael Moore, I'll give you...but don't lump Kos in with the crazies.

Lenny_da_Hog: Her message was essentially the same in every sentence, like she was repeating talking points: The old days are over, young republicans like me will make all the difference, and we can't keep dwelling on the Bush administration's screw-ups....

You know, I think what you've said sums up how she was able to make just a dumb comment.

One of the non-fox news talking points is that most young voters weren't alive when Reagan was president. Not to pardon her from the stupid statement, but I think it was a lame attempt by her to address this talking points, but she completely farked it up.

Either she got the talking points screwed up, or she is just a twat. I'm gonna go with the ladder.

Megan McCain doesn't know what the fark she is saying. you can see it written on her face. or you can see it written on her blog. she's clueless. seems like her heart is in the right place, but being the daughter of a failed presidential candidate doesn't make you intelligent or interesting.
/her sense of entitlement irks me
//in summary, tits or GTFO

Britney Spear's Speculum: I'm gonna go with the ladder.

That's a mistake.



Take the stairs.

Begala's "Letterman moment".

/pathetic.

Ringshadow: So, she has more boobs than brains? Whodathunk.

This comment smells like grapes and envy (but mostly grapes).

/ just playin'
// I like you more than I like her.

ZipSplat:
It's a vacuum of intellect, and conservative-leaning people like myself are adrift looking for something to coalesce and compromise around to form a reasonable and actionable conservative base.

There is a pretty strong conservative faction within the Dems, as they're edging toward being the only viable party at the moment so they have to compromise a lot. And because really pure radicalism would be kind of dumb in a country where we've spent centuries ironing out the kinks in the system to everyone's satisfaction.

Mentat: Paul Begala may be an annoying little twerp, but he doesn't suffer fools lightly.

Unless there's a (D-) after the name on the screen. His job is to be a hack.

Meghan, on the other hand, was clearly unprepared and is coasting on name recognition and tits - and in that regard, I don't think Begala went far enough in slapping her down.

Knowing about the French Revolution and knowing about how much Reagan blamed Carter are two completely different things. I on the other hand do know, and unlike Begala I actually remember correctly. Reagan did not, absolutely did not, in any way shape or form run around whining about how he had inherited problems and constantly blame Carter.

Reagan didn't have to blame Carter for anything, because as "history" showed: Reagan was right, his ideas worked, and he pulled America's collective rear end out of the fire in exactly the opposite way Obama is attempting to do.

Lenny_da_Hog: I saw Li'l Miss Meghan's performance on that show, and concluded she's a tool, much like the Young Conservative rappers she was calling lame in the same interview.

Her message was essentially the same in every sentence, like she was repeating talking points: The old days are over, young republicans like me will make all the difference, and we can't keep dwelling on the Bush administration's screw-ups....

Shenanigans, I call. Some focus group told her to go out and say these things to try to shed the well-deserved criticism due the GOP. She's trying to convince young people that the GOP is somehow not responsible, and that as long as hip young conservatives like her (or the Young Cons, presumably from the same Marketing Firm) mean the GOP is now different.

Bull. Shiat. Plain and simple. Her strings are being pulled by Daddy's focus groups.

Bingo. And it's quite interesting that the Republicans still think they can switch the message by adapting to it. More Rovian 'accuse the enemy of your weaknesses' nonsense that shows they're more interested in being in power and farking things up than doing anything to change what is wrong in America.

And they don't see anything wrong in America. This is a Republican Paradise we're going through. This is the America they created, and now they're trying to claw their shiatty little selves back to the 'top' so they can enjoy it more.

General Zang: plays the "oh poor me" game.

satanicsantoku: her sense of entitlement

Gulper Eel: clearly unprepared and is coasting on name recognition

Yup, she's GOP all right. She can try to reboot the brand name all she wants, but the core attitudes haven't changed.

What, no one's posted pics yet?? Oh well, I guess I'll just have to fap to that Marie-Antoinette painting that someone posted.

randomjsa: Reagan was right, his ideas worked, and he pulled America's collective rear end out of the fire in exactly the opposite way Obama is attempting to do.

Which fires are we talking about? Or was that just rhetorical neo-conservative baloney?

BillaBong: What, no one's posted pics yet?? Oh well, I guess I'll just have to fap to that Marie-Antoinette painting that someone posted.

here ya go







/you're welcome.

I think she should run for President.
If she did it nude. That would be pretty cool.

General Zang: shower_in_my_socks:

But she's still kind of a know-nothing. I give her credit for respecting knowledge and education, but it doesn't mean she has it.

I don't wish her any ill will, but I don't think she's ready for primetime. She comes across as a nervous kid competing on College Jeopardy, and the blonde valley-girl voice inflection doesn't help.

I agree with the "not ready for Primetime".

The whole "Oh I'm just a blond and you know everything" line was extremely childish and actually sort of irritated me.

I mean, it's one thing to not know something. Everyone has things they don't know about, or gaps in their knowledge.

But to see her get all sulky and defensive and to play the "oh poor me" card is not something that's going to get her any respect from anyone. I mean, guys might play along with that nonsense in the hopes of getting laid, but *nobody* actually respects someone who plays the "oh poor me" game.

Are the people she hangs out with normally, so easy to manipulate with the "gosh, I'm just a little lady, so you can't expect me to know facts and things like a man" shtick?

It's like looking through a doorway into the 1950s.

The republicans WISH we could go back to the 50's. That time period seems to fit them quite well.

Captain Dan: King Something: I'll see his "I know a thing or two about the French Revolution" and raise him a "I know not only WHEN New Amsterdam was changed to New-York, but WHY, and also the fact that the hyphen in 'New-York' is NOT an error on my part."

Cool. When/why was this changed?

I'd guess it was changed when the British got New Amsterdam from the Dutch in exchange for one of the Spice Islands.
Don't know why the hyphen should be there though.