jpbreon: Excuse me, sub, don't you understand how this website works?

Take your GOP-asshattery elsewhere.

Subby here.

So we're damned if we slam, and damned if we don't? Fark that.

Zimmy: Students have less rights than slaves.



I'll feed the troll. Students certainly don't have fewer rights than slaves, but I did have a cop tell my high school government class, in all seriousness, that we had fewer rights than prison inmates during school hours. This was in 97 or 98, so before all the zero tolerance stuff had really gotten off the ground, I think.

he's a little too metrosexual,eltist for the GOP nationally. They couldn't make their funny jokes about hair,tan etc..with him in a race. it would be a big disadvantage with Billy Bob up in W.VA or Cletus in S. Carolina.

It's_A_Farking_Secret: I can't seriously believe there are high schools named after Robert E. Lee. Is there a Benedict Arnold High as well?

The fact that there's a school named after Robert E. Lee makes a lot more sense when you learn that Jacksonville also has a N.B. Forrest High School - named after Nathan Bedford Forrest.

N.B. Forrest made his fortune as a slave trader; then was a Confederate cavalry and military commander in the Civil War, accused of being responsible for war crimes at the Battle of Fort Pillow for leading Confederate soldiers in a massacre of unarmed black Union Army prisoners; and then post-war helped form the Ku Klux Klan - serving as the first Grand Wizard of the KKK and commander of the Grand Dragons of the Realms.

Swell guy. Who had the school named after him in 1959 at the urging of the Daughters of the Confederacy because they were angry over the 1954 Brown v. Board of Education decision. There recently was an effort to get the name changed, but in the end it was shot down and the name stands.

I guess in a way it's kind of an odd justice that over half the student population there now are black - black students going to school along side white kids in a school with his name on it would probably make that assholes head explode with rage.

So, yeah, in comparison, Robert E. Lee HS isn't even worth batting an eye over.

waterfowl: Zimmy: Students have less rights than slaves.



I'll feed the troll. Students certainly don't have fewer rights than slaves, but I did have a cop tell my high school government class, in all seriousness, that we had fewer rights than prison inmates during school hours. This was in 97 or 98, so before all the zero tolerance stuff had really gotten off the ground, I think.

dude when I went to high school we had open campus. we could leave and come back as long as we were on time for class. so we'd all go get a buzz at lunch and go out to eat.
we had a picnic area between the two cafeterias that was a student smoking area. we'd hang out there and smoke cigs and play poker for lunch money.
We had one cafeteria that was all vending machines with junk food,coke machines and a jukebox too.

also I spent one quarter out at the planetarium/observatory an we went out on trips all the time to go whitewater rafting and rappelling. got to grade myself :)

Oh and in graphic arts we made counterfeit money and used it in the vending machines.

*good times*

Shemp Mo-Din: It's_A_Farking_Secret: I can't seriously believe there are high schools named after Robert E. Lee

Thats because you are a moron

I can only hope we here in CA take a hint from that one. Wow, never thought I would type that. heh. In my sons kindergarten class, a 5 year old was expelled for possession of a folding pocketknife. The kid is slightly slow, very nice, and would no more stab someone then he would fly to the moon by putting his head between his knees and spitting hard.

The teacher called the farking POLICE on the kid, not because he wanted to, but because he had to, or he would lose his job. So a 5 year old got yelled at police, the principle, the teacher, expelled, and has a permanent troublemaker mark on his record. Because he came to school with a pocketknife that his brother gave him as a gift.

Zero Tolerance rules are utterly insane.

damn, I'm glad I voted for that guy.
\will vote for him in the senate race too.

Yeah, this bill seems like a winner.
Most of the time, zero tolerance = zero competence.
But yesterday Charlie tried to improve his "tough on crime" credentials by signing a bill that would force anyone charged (not convicted) with a felony in Florida to submit to being catalogued in the state DNA database.
All hail big brother.

Link thing here

Gov. Charlie Crist will visit Robert E. Lee Senior High School Wednesday, June 17, to sign Senate Bill 1540, which requires school boards to revise their zero-tolerance policies to ensure that students expelled or referred to law enforcement pose a serious threat to school safety, and are not expelled or arrested for petty misconduct.

Thank you Governor Crist

glave27: It's_A_Farking_Secret: I can't seriously believe there are high schools named after Robert E. Lee. Is there a Benedict Arnold High as well?

I assume you are unaware of Washington & Lee University? (new window)

That one irks me but it gets a pass for being there prior to his treason.

An-Unnecessarily-Long-Name: Shemp Mo-Din: It's_A_Farking_Secret: I can't seriously believe there are high schools named after Robert E. Lee

Thats because you are a moron

Wow what an excellent argument. I'm appalled tax payer dollars go to supporting a school named after a man who led a military insurgency to split the nation in two so one part could keep slaves. (Spare me the states' rights speech, they only cared about it when it came to banning slavery).

CrankMyBlueSax: The Apocalypse is upon us. Republicans making sense. In Florida.

I think it's the collective republican voice that has been extremely dumbed down with all of the Obama WHARRGARBL, tea parties, Dr. Tiller's murder and the Holocaust museum shooter that the Florida republicans are actually starting to look normal.

Oh for the love of... Did any of you actually READ the article? This law does NOTHING.

Zero-tolerance, at least in Orange County schools, automatically brands anyone caught by it as a serious threat to themselves and everyone around them because, according to zero tolerance, the very act of violating the policy automatically proves that what you've done is beyond petty misconduct or else you wouldn't have violated the policy to begin with.

This is a bullshiat law that won't have ANY effect on ANYTHING because the way to circumvent it has already been in effect since 2000.