Great clip but I doubt it's intelligible or attractive to people who don't know the album. I don't understand why it cuts out at the point it does.

Um, no. I am a great Yes fan, and this is not great Yes. Relayer was recorded during a lost period in the band's history. The loss of Rick Wakeman, and the frantic, disconnected sound was not listenable to me.

Yes is like jazz, when it's great it's limitless, when it's bad, it's embarassing.

Saw Yes's Relayer tour in Lakeland Civic Center, Lakeland, FL back on 29 November 1974. Great concert. Clip brought back some fond memories.

/Why yes, I do remember the concert.
//Why do you ask? :-)

Ahhhh...yesssss.

Overblown,self-indulgent,meandering and as decadently pretentious as I remember.

Prog happened to me at the worst time as a young and too easily influenced musician. Fusion too.

It wasn't until later that I was rescued by The Stooges and The Velvet Underground. Simple and effortless music.

I do admit that I still love King Crimson and Roxy Music but I have to get REALLY drunk before I can revisit something like "Relayer" or "Topographic Oceans"

Hhmmmmmm,I wonder if there is any Gentle Giant on youtube?

HONEY,GO GET ME ANOTHER BEER!

Dang. Video ends at the best part of the song. Right before "Soon."

If a riff pops into your head fully-formed and it just happens to be in 11/8, which is more pretentious: straightening it out, or NOT straightening it out?

Wow, that was awful.

CatPeople: Um, no. I am a great Yes fan, and this is not great Yes. Relayer was recorded during a lost period in the band's history. The loss of Rick Wakeman, and the frantic, disconnected sound was not listenable to me.

Yes is like jazz, when it's great it's limitless, when it's bad, it's embarassing.

Relayer is my favorite Yes album, although I'm not overly keen on "Sound Chaser." They got messy on Relayer and threw in a lot more darkness and some spikier textures; Moraz brought a jazzier sensibility, and it shook up the comfortable sound they'd established.

Previous bits of Yes music had led up to this: the intros to "The Solid Time of Change," and "The Ancient," and the middle section of "Ritual." Relayer carried those elements to their logical end. And "To Be Over" may be the most transcendent piece they ever recorded.

craigdamage: Ahhhh...yesssss.

Overblown,self-indulgent,meandering and as decadently pretentious as I remember.

Prog happened to me at the worst time as a young and too easily influenced musician. Fusion too.

It wasn't until later that I was rescued by The Stooges and The Velvet Underground. Simple and effortless music.

I do admit that I still love King Crimson and Roxy Music but I have to get REALLY drunk before I can revisit something like "Relayer" or "Topographic Oceans"

Hhmmmmmm,I wonder if there is any Gentle Giant on youtube?

HONEY,GO GET ME ANOTHER BEER!

As long as you didn't have a framed poster of Asia, it's all cool.

Awesome song. Right before they decided to consistently shiat the bed.

/pretentious wankery
//says people who've never listened to any prog rock

Damn! It cut out before the 18" Stonehenge and the dancing dwarfs

I never got the "pretentious" label. They play music they like. Hey at least they're not lip sync'ing...

//subby.. and I like em...

Meh...Patrick Moraz

Ignorant McNugget: If a riff pops into your head fully-formed and it just happens to be in 11/8, which is more pretentious: straightening it out, or NOT straightening it out?

I really like that...

I like the contrast between the drummer and the rest of the band. They're all wearing flamboyant satin garbs while the drummer is a Kid Rock look alike in a wife beater.

"Ok guys we're going on tour, here's your costumes!"

Drummer: "fark that."

I haven't clicked on the link yet, but I loved Yes in the '70s. Kickin' back with headphones the size of Rhode Island. Good times. I saw them during the Tormato tour. Pretty damned good show. I don't care that some label them pretentious. It was well crafted in my opinion. I also saw Zeppelin, Zappa, Iggy and James Galway. Really, people who only like one kind of music are the really boring ones.

Ouch. Cuts off the beginning and the end? Must be a better clip of this song out there. That Chris Squire is one of a kind...

LOL (new window)

pre⋅ten⋅tious
/prɪˈtɛnʃəs/
-adjective
1. full of pretense or pretension.
2. characterized by assumption of dignity or importance.
3. making an exaggerated outward show; ostentatious.


Also,see "contrived"

Rock and roll that tries too hard to be overly complex or is too full of fabricated grandeur is what I call "pretentious"
I love prog.
I grew up on prog.

....but the sh*it is pretentious as Hell.

seems like there's two sets of clips on youtube from that concert...

one of good sound quality and ok/good visual quality.

the other one of horrible distorted sound quality in places, and ok/good visual quality.

luckily this is from the first one.

p.s. the part of "Gates" that this clip is of, the 'battle' sequence or whatever it's called, is my least favourite part of "gates". all the surrounding parts are top notch tho...

Relayer was a great CD. I won;t say there were not better moments in progressive rock.... People could at least play their instruments live back then.

CatPeople: Um, no. I am a great Yes fan, and this is not great Yes. Relayer was recorded during a lost period in the band's history. The loss of Rick Wakeman, and the frantic, disconnected sound was not listenable to me.

Yes is like jazz, when it's great it's limitless, when it's bad, it's embarassing.

Came here to say this. It has been said.

+1

eh. i enjoyed the clip. relayer wasn't their best. it also wasn't their worst.

craigdamage: Rock and roll that tries too hard to be overly complex or is too full of fabricated grandeur is what I call "pretentious"

Glad to see someone doesn't recoil in horror at the P word because every Phil Spector record ever made is pretentious by your criteria, Springsteen's song Born to Run is pretentious, as is A Day In The Life and so on and so forth and those aren't prog rock songs.

Give me pretentiousness any day over a bunch of white dudes pretending they're Southern black sharecroppers and that they're "playing the blues".

/Love me some pretentiousness, bombast and self-indulgence
//It's rock music, not training to be a Zen monk

Henry Holland:

Glad to see someone doesn't recoil in horror at the P word because every Phil Spector record ever made is pretentious by your criteria, Springsteen's song Born to Run is pretentious, as is A Day In The Life and so on and so forth and those aren't prog rock songs.

Give me pretentiousness any day over a bunch of white dudes pretending they're Southern black sharecroppers and that they're "playing the blues".

/Love me some pretentiousness, bombast and self-indulgence
//It's rock music, not training to be a Zen monk

A thousand times THIS.