That should work for lawmakers as well.

If you break the country, you have to pay for the fixing of the country out of your own salary.

"Literally, if we took away the minimum wage-if conceivably it was gone-we could potentially virtually wipe out unemployment completely because we would be able to offer jobs at whatever level."

How can something so stupid achieve elected office?

chemical_angel: "Literally, if we took away the minimum wage-if conceivably it was gone-we could potentially virtually wipe out unemployment completely because we would be able to offer jobs at whatever level."

How can something so stupid achieve elected office?

Orwell called politicans like this in his book 1984:

...Winston turned a little sideways in his chair to drink his mug of coffee. At the table on his left the man with the strident voice was still talking remorselessly away....He held some important post in the FICTION DEPARTMENT....It was just a noise, a quack-quack-quacking....Every word of it was pure orthodoxy, pure Ingsoc....Winston had a curious feeling that this was not a real human being but some kind of dummy. It was not the man's brain that was speaking, it was his larynx. The stuff that was coming out of him consisted of words, but it was not speech in the true sense: it was noise uttered in unconsciousness, like the quacking of a duck.

Syme had fallen silent for a moment, and with the handle of his spoon was tracing patterns in the puddle of stew. The voice from the other table quacked rapidly on, easily audible in spite of the surrounding din.

"There is a word in Newspeak" said Syme, "I don't know whether you know it: duckspeak, to quack like a duck. It is one of those interesting words that have two contradictory meanings. Applied to an opponent, it is abuse: applied to someone you agree with, it is praise.

1984 was a far more accurate book than people give it credit for being. I mean, there's no telescreen in my house (that I know of), but Orwell's insights on the uses and abuses of language by political processes are just so dead on.

It's because she loves her country so much it makes her insane and stupid.

"I look at the Scripture and I read it and I take it for what it is. I give more credence in the Scripture as being kind of a timeless word of God to mankind, and I take it for what it is. And I don't think I give as much credence to my own mind, because I see myself as being very limited and very flawed, and lacking in knowledge, and wisdom and understanding. So, I just take the Bible for what it is, I guess, and recognize that I am not a scientist, not trained to be a scientist. I'm not a deep thinker on all of this. I wish I was. I wish I was more knowledgeable, but I'm not a scientist." - Michele Bachmann interviewing with Todd Fiel at KKMS as quoted in the Stillwater Gazette, September 29, 2003.

Can anyone farking parse that?

Bloody William: "I look at the Scripture and I read it and I take it for what it is. I give more credence in the Scripture as being kind of a timeless word of God to mankind, and I take it for what it is. And I don't think I give as much credence to my own mind, because I see myself as being very limited and very flawed, and lacking in knowledge, and wisdom and understanding. So, I just take the Bible for what it is, I guess, and recognize that I am not a scientist, not trained to be a scientist. I'm not a deep thinker on all of this. I wish I was. I wish I was more knowledgeable, but I'm not a scientist." - Michele Bachmann interviewing with Todd Fiel at KKMS as quoted in the Stillwater Gazette, September 29, 2003.

Can anyone farking parse that?

Let me attempt to translate: "I know I'm a moron, so I'm sticking with the Bible."

she also thought it was "interesting" that the last swine flu happened under a dem president. of course it didn't; it happened under ford in '76 - but that didn't stop her from basically blaming the dems for the swine flu.

she gives "crazy" a bad name.

FlashHarry: she also thought it was "interesting" that the last swine flu happened under a dem president. of course it didn't; it happened under ford in '76 - but that didn't stop her from basically blaming the dems for the swine flu.

she gives "crazy" a bad name.

I'd call her batshiat insane, but I'd rather not insult guano.

FlashHarry: she also thought it was "interesting" that the last swine flu happened under a dem president. of course it didn't; it happened under ford in '76 - but that didn't stop her from basically blaming the dems for the swine flu.

she gives "crazy" a bad name.

Dude, she gives HUMAN a bad name.

Gyrfalcon: FlashHarry: she also thought it was "interesting" that the last swine flu happened under a dem president. of course it didn't; it happened under ford in '76 - but that didn't stop her from basically blaming the dems for the swine flu.

she gives "crazy" a bad name.
ftfy
Dude, she gives SUBHUMAN a bad name.

ft

We need more Republicans like her. The world would be a better place.

Yet, people still believe that politicians are capable of vast intricate conspiracies...

Bloody William: Can anyone farking parse that?

I wish I was smart enough to be a scientist and be knowledgeable, but I am not, so I believe in the Bible instead.

Which, I really can't fault her honesty but makes me incredibly sad. Sadder to think of how many others are like this too.

chemical angel1984 was a far more accurate book than people give it credit for being. I mean, there's no telescreen in my house (that I know of), but Orwell's insights on the uses and abuses of language by political processes are just so dead on.

yeah but even he didn't forsee the two minutes of hate turning into a 24/7 cable network

Laz Long: Yet, people still believe that politicians are capable of vast intricate conspiracies...

They get help from their corporate masters.

hey Michelle. You should propose a bill to reinstate slavery.
Why do anything half-assed?

POINT OF ORDER:

Fast food joints are often lacking in breakable dishware.

\just sayin'
\\worked at McDonalds at age 16

"No one that I know disagrees with natural selection - that you can take various breeds of dogs ... breed them, you get different kinds of dogs," she said. "It's just a fact of life. ... Where there's controversy is (at the question) 'Where do we say that a cell became a blade of grass, which became a starfish, which became a cat, which became a donkey, which became a human being?' There's a real lack of evidence from change from actual species to a different type of species. That's where it's difficult to prove." - Michele Bachmann quoted in the Stillwater Gazette, September 29, 2003.

You, Mrs. Bachman, might hail from a starfish or a donkey. I, on the other hand, hails from a long line of apes who were smart enough to survive while others perished, in a world where intelligence, the use of tools and the community of the pack made them outlive inferior primates who were conservative and thought that the pointy stick was no match for screaming and jumping up and down when a lion was spotted, because that was the old way, and there's no goddamn pinko liberal homo erectus who should say otherwise.

Hobodeluxe: hey Michelle. You should propose a bill to reinstate slavery.
Why do anything half-assed?

Well really, what would be so bad about that? I mean, the poor people who can't afford food and housing would be given food and housing in exchange for their labor. The wealthy, who would be able to afford servants, would not only be saving money but would be doing their humanitarian duty to help out those less fortunate than them. The whole system could be established with rigid regulations* to ensure no one is taken advantage of or abused. It would be great!

^{*Regulations are not mandatory and no funding will be allotted for establishing regulatory committees}

/Alright, maybe it isn't such a good idea

chemical_angel: How can something so stupid achieve elected office?

She is from a flaming red district with no real competition on the republican front. And the scary part is that people like her in that district.

/although this time around it may be different
//grew up in that district

Bloody William: "I look at the Scripture and I read it and I take it for what it is. I give more credence in the Scripture as being kind of a timeless word of God to mankind, and I take it for what it is. And I don't think I give as much credence to my own mind, because I see myself as being very limited and very flawed, and lacking in knowledge, and wisdom and understanding. So, I just take the Bible for what it is, I guess, and recognize that I am not a scientist, not trained to be a scientist. I'm not a deep thinker on all of this. I wish I was. I wish I was more knowledgeable, but I'm not a scientist." - Michele Bachmann interviewing with Todd Fiel at KKMS as quoted in the Stillwater Gazette, September 29, 2003.

Can anyone farking parse that?

I'm stupid, so I read the Bible.

For some reason, this brings to mind Luther's argument that no one under the age of 30 should attempt to interpret scripture.

Egalitarian: POINT OF ORDER:

Fast food joints are often lacking in breakable dishware.

\just sayin'
\\worked at McDonalds at age 16

excellent point. she probably thinks they use fine china.




"those dishes are expensive ya'll. The last set I bought were $100 a setting" "Those kids probably cost those places a fortune"

Hobodeluxe: chemical angel1984 was a far more accurate book than people give it credit for being. I mean, there's no telescreen in my house (that I know of), but Orwell's insights on the uses and abuses of language by political processes are just so dead on.

yeah but even he didn't forsee the two minutes of hate turning into a 24/7 cable network

What I find creepy is the way we have shifted from hating and fearing the Godless Communists to hating and fearing the Jihad extremists. It reminds me of how 1984 shifted who they were at war with.

And don't get me started on the observation cameras everywhere.

Cornwell: "No one that I know disagrees with natural selection - that you can take various breeds of dogs ... breed them, you get different kinds of dogs," she said. "It's just a fact of life. ... Where there's controversy is (at the question) 'Where do we say that a cell became a blade of grass, which became a starfish, which became a cat, which became a donkey, which became a human being?' There's a real lack of evidence from change from actual species to a different type of species. That's where it's difficult to prove." - Michele Bachmann quoted in the Stillwater Gazette, September 29, 2003.

You, Mrs. Bachman, might hail from a starfish or a donkey. I, on the other hand, hails from a long line of apes who were smart enough to survive while others perished, in a world where intelligence, the use of tools and the community of the pack made them outlive inferior primates who were conservative and thought that the pointy stick was no match for screaming and jumping up and down when a lion was spotted, because that was the old way, and there's no goddamn pinko liberal homo erectus who should say otherwise.

Not apes per say but we did have a common ancestor!

Now it's someone else's turn, can someone tell me just what the hell is going on in this one?

"Iran is the troublemaker trying to tip over apple carts all over Baghdad right now because they want America to pull out. And you know why? It's because they've already decided, that they're going to territory, they're- they're going to partition Iraq and half of Iraq, the western northern portion of Iraq is going to be called, the United, uh, uh, the, the uh, -oh, I'm sorry, I can't remember the actual name of it now, but it's going to be called, um, uh, the, the, uh, uh the Iraq State of Islam, something like that. And I-I'm sorry, I-I don't have the official name, but it is meant to be the training ground for the terrorists. There's already an agreement made; they're going to get half of Iraq and that is going to be a -a terrorist free,-a terrorist safe haven zone."

Apple Carts?
Iraq and half of Iraq? How many Rhode Islands is that?
etc.

Burn98: Hobodeluxe: chemical angel1984 was a far more accurate book than people give it credit for being. I mean, there's no telescreen in my house (that I know of), but Orwell's insights on the uses and abuses of language by political processes are just so dead on.

yeah but even he didn't forsee the two minutes of hate turning into a 24/7 cable network

What I find creepy is the way we have shifted from hating and fearing the Godless Communists to hating and fearing the Jihad extremists. It reminds me of how 1984 shifted who they were at war with.

And don't get me started on the observation cameras everywhere.

what gets me is they've turned us on each other. not the communists or anyone foreign. it's the new McCarthyism.

Great Metal Jesus: Hobodeluxe: hey Michelle. You should propose a bill to reinstate slavery.
Why do anything half-assed?

Well really, what would be so bad about that? I mean, the poor people who can't afford food and housing would be given food and housing in exchange for their labor. The wealthy, who would be able to afford servants, would not only be saving money but would be doing their humanitarian duty to help out those less fortunate than them. The whole system could be established with rigid regulations* to ensure no one is taken advantage of or abused. It would be great!

*Regulations are not mandatory and no funding will be allotted for establishing regulatory committees

/Alright, maybe it isn't such a good idea

heh you think giving them housing and utilities + food to live on would be cheaper than what min wage is now?
no they'd lose money with slaves.

chemical_angel: "Literally, if we took away the minimum wage-if conceivably it was gone-we could potentially virtually wipe out unemployment completely because we would be able to offer jobs at whatever level."

How can something so stupid achieve elected office?

Legions upon legions of really stupid, gullible voters.

Hobodeluxe: heh you think giving them housing and utilities + food to live on would be cheaper than what min wage is now?
no they'd lose money with slaves.

Who said anything about utilities? You'll take your cardboard box and Alpo and like it, slave!

Did she...did she compare gay marriage to Pearl Harbor?! If heads could explode mine would be mother farking Krakatoa!

rbabe1485: Not apes per say but we did have a common ancestor!

Well, "a primate of a common ancestry from the Hominoidea superfamily of primates and genetically speaking closest related to chimpanzees" does not exactly run of the tongue, and I find "ape" to be a suitable common term people can relate to.

wyltoknow: Did she...did she compare gay marriage to Pearl Harbor?! If heads could explode mine would be mother farking Krakatoa!

I have a bit of trouble untangling her sentences, but it seems that if you start shooting at gays, then you are a true American like those of the USS Ward, and if you ignore the warnings, then you are like command at Pearl Harbor and will end up getting torpedoed by some Japanese guy.

/NTTAWT

Cornwell: rbabe1485: Not apes per say but we did have a common ancestor!

Well, "a primate of a common ancestry from the Hominoidea superfamily of primates and genetically speaking closest related to chimpanzees" does not exactly run of the tongue, and I find "ape" to be a suitable common term people can relate to.

Of course, you're stuck at an impasse. If you use proper terminology, conservative minds blank and do a hard reboot, which leads to their startup mode of continuously screaming "STUPID LIBS!" over and over. If you say "apes", they immediately focus on the term to triumphantly comment that there are still apes in the world so why didn't they evolve?

I think the only way to get the point across is just to beat them to death with fossils.

Minnesota....this is why Wisconsin looks down on you.

Gee, it would be nice to get a rightard's view of Bachmann's wisdom. Do you guys agree with her? Do her arguments hold any water? Do you agree that there just may be a fundamental problem that exists within your party at this time? Would thread-jacking be the proper course of action at this time? Maybe post a witty cartoon?

Come on, rightards... give us something.

rbabe1485: Cornwell: "No one that I know disagrees with natural selection - that you can take various breeds of dogs ... breed them, you get different kinds of dogs," she said. "It's just a fact of life. ... Where there's controversy is (at the question) 'Where do we say that a cell became a blade of grass, which became a starfish, which became a cat, which became a donkey, which became a human being?' There's a real lack of evidence from change from actual species to a different type of species. That's where it's difficult to prove." - Michele Bachmann quoted in the Stillwater Gazette, September 29, 2003.

You, Mrs. Bachman, might hail from a starfish or a donkey. I, on the other hand, hails from a long line of apes who were smart enough to survive while others perished, in a world where intelligence, the use of tools and the community of the pack made them outlive inferior primates who were conservative and thought that the pointy stick was no match for screaming and jumping up and down when a lion was spotted, because that was the old way, and there's no goddamn pinko liberal homo erectus who should say otherwise.

Not apes per say but we did have a common ancestor!

Yetis. We're evolved from Yetis.

Send in the clown!

Burn98: What I find creepy is the way we have shifted from hating and fearing the Godless Communists to hating and fearing the Jihad extremists. It reminds me of how 1984 shifted who they were at war with.

I get flamed every time I dare say this, but here goes - There has always been a boogy man. His name is "Ist" In the US, he has been known as royalist, anarchist, fascist, imperialist, communist, and lately, terrorist.

/No I'm not saying that there are no real threats. I am saying that your government needs and wants you to be afraid of Mr. Ist.

Michele Bachmann: I'm not a scientist and I am incapable/choose not to think for myself. Therefore I put my "faith" in those who further my career or whose opinions mirror my own and follow them blindly. This also absolves me from responsibility for anything that goes wrong as a result of my actions.

/parsed?

And dig the continuation of the quote:

"But you know what? After six months, that teenager is going to be a fabulous employee and is going to go on a trajectory where he's going to be making so much money, we'll be borrowing money from him."

'Cause after six months at a dishwashing job, paychecks literally skyrocket to the top bracket, and that's when kids have to start worrying about estate taxes.

HighOnCraic: 'Cause after six months at a dishwashing job, paychecks literally skyrocket to the top bracket, and that's when kids have to start worrying about estate taxes.

After working lowly retail for a year, I am making a whole dollar above minimum wage. I am rolling in the mother farking dough, who wants to bathe in some Cristal with me?

Laz Long: Burn98: What I find creepy is the way we have shifted from hating and fearing the Godless Communists to hating and fearing the Jihad extremists. It reminds me of how 1984 shifted who they were at war with.

I get flamed every time I dare say this, but here goes - There has always been a boogy man. His name is "Ist" In the US, he has been known as royalist, anarchist, fascist, imperialist, communist, and lately, terrorist.


/No I'm not saying that there are no real threats. I am saying that your government needs and wants you to be afraid of Mr. Ist.

Remember the old Reagan commercial? "There's a bear in the woods. Some say the bear is tame, so say the bear is fierce. So we need to spend billions on nuclear weapons and proxy wars in Central America, just in case."

We already are borrowing money from that 16 year old, thanks Congresswoman.

HighOnCraic: And dig the continuation of the quote:

"But you know what? After six months, that teenager is going to be a fabulous employee and is going to go on a trajectory where he's going to be making so much money, we'll be borrowing money from him."

'Cause after six months at a dishwashing job, paychecks literally skyrocket to the top bracket, and that's when kids have to start worrying about estate taxes.

From That Site:

Bachmann grew up in Anoka, Minnesota, graduating from Anoka public high school in 1974. She graduated from Winona State University and later received her J.D. degree from Oral Roberts University and an LL.M. degree in tax law from the College of William and Mary's Marshall-Wythe School of Law.[4]

I never thought I'd use this argument, nevermind at a conservative, but it doesn't sound like she's very familiar with being on her own, pulling herself up by her bootstraps, working a minimum wage job and seeing no end in sight and no opportunity for improvement beyond, maybe, assistant manager. From her early life, sounds like she's the sort of career lawyer graduate degree grabbing elitist conservatives rail against because they're out of touch.

...who went to Oral Roberts and seems to be farking insane.

Oh, it gets even better in the next section.

Throughout the 1990s Bachman worked on a local level on various educational issues issues including charter schools, intelligent design, and School-to-Work policies.

In 1993, Bachmann joined with other parents in Stillwater to open New Heights Charter School. The oversight of New Heights soon encountered problems when a concerned group of parents and the school district questioned if money from public tax dollars was going towards inserting Christianity into the curriculum. One such parent, Denise Stephens, charges the board of directors of the school (which included Bachmann) with trying to set up classes on Creationism and advocating that "something called '12 Christian principles' be taught, very much like the 10 Commandments." According to Stephens, school officials also refused to allow the in-school screening of the Disney film Aladdin, feeling that it endorsed witchcraft and promoted paganism. Along with other directors, Bachmann appeared before the Stillwater School Board to address the parents' concerns. Bachmann stated, "Are you going to question my integrity?" As the meeting continued, Bachmann and four members of her board resigned.[5]

/Not a pulled-up-by-the-bootstraps kind of guy either, but I admit it, and I'm not so smacktarded to think... well, this stupid bullshiat Bachmann is saying
//Worked a few summers at Blockbuster and a grocery store bakery, made a few extra bucks doing tech support at the college library's computer cluster.

Dear God imaginary friend, what has science religious fundamentalism done.

>> "Many teenagers that come in should be paying the employer"

Thats the updated version of "the miracle of the market". These people are totally nuts.

They will claim that markets can cure cancer. They are a bunch of Amway salesman on meth.

wyltoknow: Of course, you're stuck at an impasse. If you use proper terminology, conservative minds blank and do a hard reboot, which leads to their startup mode of continuously screaming "STUPID LIBS!" over and over. If you say "apes", they immediately focus on the term to triumphantly comment that there are still apes in the world so why didn't they evolve?

I think the only way to get the point across is just to beat them to death with fossils.

Ah, when it comes to apes, you just look at them, smile and say "But they are evolving. You just don't notice at the moment." then you point out that the normal human being share something like 96% of the same DNA.

When that doesn't work, then you hit them across the head with a fossilized Nautiloidea while you explain to the nearby witnesses that there's absolutely nothing wrong with bludgeoning a creationist to death with a transitional species.

chemical_angel: How can something so stupid achieve elected office?

It seems like that's the only type of job some of these 'tards are qualified for.

chemical_angel:

How can something so stupid achieve elected office?

Religion.