If the evasion is unsuccessful at twice the speed limit, then the pursuers in the hostile entourage are using DEADLY FORCE to achieve their objective. The bodyguard should then instruct the driver to safely park the vehicle on the side of the road and wait for further instructions. When the bandits, perverts, rapist, photographers, or assassins stop their cars the bodyguard should have jumped on the hood of their cars and shot through the windshield killing the perpetrators at point blank range.

The bodyguard should have then jumped on the next car's hood shooting through the windshield killing the perpetrators that were using deadly force in pursuing Princes Di. The bodyguard should have continued this action, reloading when needed until as many perpetrators were neutralized.


/hot

When the bandits, perverts, rapist, photographers, or assassins stop their cars the bodyguard should have jumped on the hood of their cars and shot through the windshield killing the perpetrators at point blank range.

The bodyguard should have then jumped on the next car's hood shooting through the windshield killing the perpetrators that were using deadly force in pursuing Princes Di. The bodyguard should have continued this action, reloading when needed until as many perpetrators were neutralized.

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Let me get this right-- several cars full of photographers (and to be honest you have zero indication to suspect they are anything more menacing) are following you, and you are unable to shake them without going at a speed likely to get everyone in your car killed. So, you pull over. When the other cars pull over, you open fire. Without warning. Even if they don't make any hostile moves. Even if they don't get out of their cars.

Uh, good luck explaining that to a judge. Hell, I don't think that use of deadly force would be legally justifiable even in Texas.

"Di" was a big time celeb and the ex-wife of a possible future head of State. I don't see that as a good reason to be on a hair trigger "Kill 'em if they look at you funny" alert level.

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That said, I think the world would be a little bit better place today if the bodyguard HAD stopped the car and shot every one of those paparazzi scum right in the face.

But that still don't make it OK to shoot people who do not pose an immediate threat to life or limb.

Do they even have guns in France?

Mohamed Al Fayed should get together with Fred Goldman and together STFU already.

All I can say is WTF?

If you return my daughter now, that will be the end of it.

I'm hoping that piece was supposed to be satire.

Fayyad: If you return my daughter now, that will be the end of it.

Came for this.
Satisfied.

/Good luck.

I wonder how it would have played out if it were in the US, the celeb in the car was President, and the bodyguards were Secret Service.

I'd bet that those guys doing the following would be so full of holes that they whistled as they fell over.

/relevancy sighs

lajimi: Mohamed Al Fayed should get together with Fred Goldman and together STFU already.

This. Seriously. Go Away.

Mall Ninja II: Electric Boogaloo.

mark it zero

So now the blame is on the bodyguard. Next time they're going to blame Diana for being so damn famous and paparazzi-prone. Get over it, world.

They shot her, and shot her, and shot her, and shot her. Then they reloaded and shot her, and shot her, and shot her, till they could shoot her no more. They did not use guns to shoot her; just their cameras!

Was this written by a twelve-year-old?

moondo: So now the blame is on the bodyguard. Next time they're going to blame Diana for being so damn famous and paparazzi-prone. Get over it, world.

/Sadly...THIS!

When the bandits, perverts, rapist, photographers, or assassins stop their cars the bodyguard should have jumped on the hood of their cars and shot through the windshield killing the perpetrators at point blank range.

The bodyguard should have then jumped on the next car's hood shooting through the windshield killing the perpetrators that were using deadly force in pursuing Princes Di. The bodyguard should have continued this action, reloading when needed until as many perpetrators were neutralized.

Oh, man! That would have been SOOOOOO COOOOOOL.

Rye_: They shot her, and shot her, and shot her, and shot her. Then they reloaded and shot her, and shot her, and shot her, till they could shoot her no more. They did not use guns to shoot her; just their cameras!

Was this written by a twelve-year-old?

That "piece" had so many grammatical errors and issues it made me wince to read it. It reads a bit like an AOL chatroom transcript.

Riche: When the bandits, perverts, rapist, photographers, or assassins stop their cars the bodyguard should have jumped on the hood of their cars and shot through the windshield killing the perpetrators at point blank range.

The bodyguard should have then jumped on the next car's hood shooting through the windshield killing the perpetrators that were using deadly force in pursuing Princes Di. The bodyguard should have continued this action, reloading when needed until as many perpetrators were neutralized.

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Let me get this right-- several cars full of photographers (and to be honest you have zero indication to suspect they are anything more menacing) are following you, and you are unable to shake them without going at a speed likely to get everyone in your car killed. So, you pull over. When the other cars pull over, you open fire. Without warning. Even if they don't make any hostile moves. Even if they don't get out of their cars.

Uh, good luck explaining that to a judge. Hell, I don't think that use of deadly force would be legally justifiable even in Texas.

"Di" was a big time celeb and the ex-wife of a possible future head of State. I don't see that as a good reason to be on a hair trigger "Kill 'em if they look at you funny" alert level.

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That said, I think the world would be a little bit better place today if the bodyguard HAD stopped the car and shot every one of those paparazzi scum right in the face.

But that still don't make it OK to shoot people who do not pose an immediate threat to life or limb.

The author was implying that chasing the car at such speeds *was* use of deadly force and thus the occupants were already making "hostile moves."

FTFA:
When the bandits, perverts, rapist, photographers, or assassins stop their cars the bodyguard should have jumped on the hood of their cars and shot through the windshield killing the perpetrators at point blank range.

The bodyguard should have then jumped on the next car's hood shooting through the windshield killing the perpetrators that were using deadly force in pursuing Princes Di. The bodyguard should have continued this action, reloading when needed until as many perpetrators were neutralized.
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By jumping on the hood of a vehicle controlled by unknown assailants, you are presenting a wonderful target.

You're doing it very, very wrong.

People still give a shiat about this?

Shes Dead. She has been for 12 years. Shes staying Dead.

Can we shut the hell up about her now?

/Yeah, I know, I don't have to read the article/thread.

I'm sorry, did this get greenlit 12 years ago and is just now getting posted? Was he trying to gather his thoughts until the right time to post this? Where is the relevancy?

As a retired security consultant and former distinguished visitor (DV) driver for the Army, I am qualified to make a few observations.

#1 Anytime another vehicle or vehicles appears to be pursuing your car you MUST assume they are a threat - period. The first time you take it for granted that they are just paparazzi could be the time one of them is actually an assassin posing as paparazzi.

#2 The driver made several crucial mistakes that night, drinking on the job was just the first. Any DV driver worth his salt knows that you never take a DV through a tunnel or across a bridge, they are called "kill zones" for a reason. If the DV is going somewhere this can not be avoided, that is what helicopters are for. In addition, once he determined that he needed to take extreme measures to remove the threat he MUST insist that the DV(s) put on their seat belts.

Those are just the obvious mistakes, there may be others.

Had the driver been sober, chose a proper route beforehand and insisted the DV(s) "buckle up" things might have been very different.

headstone: FTFA:
When the bandits, perverts, rapist, photographers, or assassins stop their cars the bodyguard should have jumped on the hood of their cars and shot through the windshield killing the perpetrators at point blank range.

The bodyguard should have then jumped on the next car's hood shooting through the windshield killing the perpetrators that were using deadly force in pursuing Princes Di. The bodyguard should have continued this action, reloading when needed until as many perpetrators were neutralized.
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By jumping on the hood of a vehicle controlled by unknown assailants, you are presenting a wonderful target.

You're doing it very, very wrong.

/So very true. If the bodyguard isn't quite the marksman he believes he is and gets shot...what's going to stop whoever from getting to the person he "was" guarding...Yet another Monday morning ITG!

Beerguy: As a retired security consultant and former distinguished visitor (DV) driver for the Army, I am qualified to make a few observations.

#1 Anytime another vehicle or vehicles appears to be pursuing your car you MUST assume they are a threat - period. The first time you take it for granted that they are just paparazzi could be the time one of them is actually an assassin posing as paparazzi.

#2 The driver made several crucial mistakes that night, drinking on the job was just the first. Any DV driver worth his salt knows that you never take a DV through a tunnel or across a bridge, they are called "kill zones" for a reason. If the DV is going somewhere this can not be avoided, that is what helicopters are for. In addition, once he determined that he needed to take extreme measures to remove the threat he MUST insist that the DV(s) put on their seat belts.

Those are just the obvious mistakes, there may be others.

Had the driver been sober, chose a proper route beforehand and insisted the DV(s) "buckle up" things might have been very different.

Cool observations, now due to my bloated ego I'll insist on never going over bridges or into tunnels when I'm with my friends....

Princess Di's assassination was the opening shot of 9/11.

/got nuthin'

Beerguy: As a retired security consultant and former distinguished visitor (DV) driver for the Army, I am qualified to make a few observations.

#1 Anytime another vehicle or vehicles appears to be pursuing your car you MUST assume they are a threat - period. The first time you take it for granted that they are just paparazzi could be the time one of them is actually an assassin posing as paparazzi.

#2 The driver made several crucial mistakes that night, drinking on the job was just the first. Any DV driver worth his salt knows that you never take a DV through a tunnel or across a bridge, they are called "kill zones" for a reason. If the DV is going somewhere this can not be avoided, that is what helicopters are for. In addition, once he determined that he needed to take extreme measures to remove the threat he MUST insist that the DV(s) put on their seat belts.

Those are just the obvious mistakes, there may be others.

Had the driver been sober, chose a proper route beforehand and insisted the DV(s) "buckle up" things might have been very different.

you forgot about jumping from car to car killing everyone inside at point blank range.

Beerguy: As a retired security consultant and former distinguished visitor (DV) driver for the Army, I am qualified to make a few observations.

#1 Anytime another vehicle or vehicles appears to be pursuing your car you MUST assume they are a threat - period. The first time you take it for granted that they are just paparazzi could be the time one of them is actually an assassin posing as paparazzi.

#2 The driver made several crucial mistakes that night, drinking on the job was just the first. Any DV driver worth his salt knows that you never take a DV through a tunnel or across a bridge, they are called "kill zones" for a reason. If the DV is going somewhere this can not be avoided, that is what helicopters are for. In addition, once he determined that he needed to take extreme measures to remove the threat he MUST insist that the DV(s) put on their seat belts.

Those are just the obvious mistakes, there may be others.

Had the driver been sober, chose a proper route beforehand and insisted the DV(s) "buckle up" things might have been very different.

Can you comment on the "jump on the hood and unload on the occupants" claim?

On last point, people like Rush Limbaugh say that the photographers were just doing their job. That it is the insatiable thrust for pictures of Princess Di that caused her death.

So the thirst of this article is: bodyguards can't spell.

/also has insatiable thrust.

Diana was a petulant whore. For three weeks before, and including the day she died, all the papers were detailing her scandalous behaviour.

The only things left for her to do were either to marry a moslem, or to have a half-caste child out of wedlock. Fortunately, her accident prevented either of these from occurring.

All those paparazzi, and they couldn't get one picture of her after the crash.

Amateurs. TMZ would have had shots of her both dead and with her vag hanging out.

Dextro: Beerguy: As a retired security consultant and former distinguished visitor (DV) driver for the Army, I am qualified to make a few observations.

#1 Anytime another vehicle or vehicles appears to be pursuing your car you MUST assume they are a threat - period. The first time you take it for granted that they are just paparazzi could be the time one of them is actually an assassin posing as paparazzi.

#2 The driver made several crucial mistakes that night, drinking on the job was just the first. Any DV driver worth his salt knows that you never take a DV through a tunnel or across a bridge, they are called "kill zones" for a reason. If the DV is going somewhere this can not be avoided, that is what helicopters are for. In addition, once he determined that he needed to take extreme measures to remove the threat he MUST insist that the DV(s) put on their seat belts.

Those are just the obvious mistakes, there may be others.

Had the driver been sober, chose a proper route beforehand and insisted the DV(s) "buckle up" things might have been very different.

Can you comment on the "jump on the hood and unload on the occupants" claim?

That is a ridiculous statement, if you do things correctly you should be able to evade the threat and take the DV to the nearest "safe haven", i.e. police station, military base, hospital, etc. where the aggressors will normally not follow.

"safe havens" are identified during the recon of the possible routes for the DV which is done usually the day before the actual escort.

Engaging the aggressors is the absolute last resort only to be taken if your vehicle becomes disabled or blocked in (again, why the tunnel/bridge thing is never to be done) and an attack is emminent.

Everything about this link is win: hard hitting, incisive analysis in an ungrammatical essay posted by a self-proclaimed he-man bodyguard on an about.com web board about alcoholism.

Bonus bizarre tie-in to Princesss Diana!


Christ I love fark. I love the internet.

I'm a bodyguard who jumps on the hoods of cars, so I'm really getting a kick, and getting a kick, and getting a kick out of these replies, until I can kick no more.

When the bandits, perverts, rapist, photographers, or assassins...

...rustlers, cut throats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, shiat-kickers and Methodists!

LeTrole

The sound of your fapping every time you reel in a bunch of biters is deafening.

Kumana Wanalaia: Princess Di's assassination was the opening shot of 9/11.

/got nuthin'

And also led to a seekrit mooslim being elected president.

/She was killed for polluting the sacred fluids of the British Royal Family. . .
//And for banging a darkie, to use proper Nanny-State parlance

Photoshop This: The sound of your fapping every time you reel in a bunch of biters is deafening.

My surname is Le Trôle.

Here is Steve Myers, resident About.Com badass, demonstrating his "Shoot first, ask questions later" technique of advanced bodyguarding. (Formally known as "Kill 'em all and let God sort it out")

Sir Charles: Beerguy: As a retired security consultant and former distinguished visitor (DV) driver for the Army, I am qualified to make a few observations.

#1 Anytime another vehicle or vehicles appears to be pursuing your car you MUST assume they are a threat - period. The first time you take it for granted that they are just paparazzi could be the time one of them is actually an assassin posing as paparazzi.

#2 The driver made several crucial mistakes that night, drinking on the job was just the first. Any DV driver worth his salt knows that you never take a DV through a tunnel or across a bridge, they are called "kill zones" for a reason. If the DV is going somewhere this can not be avoided, that is what helicopters are for. In addition, once he determined that he needed to take extreme measures to remove the threat he MUST insist that the DV(s) put on their seat belts.

Those are just the obvious mistakes, there may be others.

Had the driver been sober, chose a proper route beforehand and insisted the DV(s) "buckle up" things might have been very different.

you forgot about jumping from car to car killing everyone inside at point blank range.

Otherwise known as LEAVING YOUR PROTECTEE! Nice tactic there.

Wow. The irony of this being featured on the alcoholism section of about.com is a little overwhelming..

Didn't Di die (ha!) in a car crash? I don't think "going faster" is the right way to avoid that.

Je5tEr: Sir Charles: Beerguy: As a retired security consultant and former distinguished visitor (DV) driver for the Army, I am qualified to make a few observations.

#1 Anytime another vehicle or vehicles appears to be pursuing your car you MUST assume they are a threat - period. The first time you take it for granted that they are just paparazzi could be the time one of them is actually an assassin posing as paparazzi.

#2 The driver made several crucial mistakes that night, drinking on the job was just the first. Any DV driver worth his salt knows that you never take a DV through a tunnel or across a bridge, they are called "kill zones" for a reason. If the DV is going somewhere this can not be avoided, that is what helicopters are for. In addition, once he determined that he needed to take extreme measures to remove the threat he MUST insist that the DV(s) put on their seat belts.

Those are just the obvious mistakes, there may be others.

Had the driver been sober, chose a proper route beforehand and insisted the DV(s) "buckle up" things might have been very different.

you forgot about jumping from car to car killing everyone inside at point blank range.

Otherwise known as LEAVING YOUR PROTECTEE! Nice tactic there.

You obviously didn't see my second post above where I address that asinine statement.

letrole: Photoshop This: The sound of your fapping every time you reel in a bunch of biters is deafening.

My surname is Le Trôle.

His surname is Le Trôle. The fact that he has never, ever posted anything in a thread that wasn't troll-like is immaterial.

Diana who?

consciousNOT: Diana who?

Ross.

ill bet that bodyguard doesnt have any clients, which would make him no more of a bodyguard than anyone here. you cant jump on peoples hoods and unload on everyone in the car because they're following you taking pictures

They shot her, and shot her, and shot her, and shot her. Then they reloaded and shot her, and shot her, and shot her, till they could shoot her no more. They did not use guns to shoot her; just their cameras!

Was this written by a twelve-year-old?



/I'm pretty sure that's part of a porn script...
//I'm on