it rains on the just and unjust alike.

Speaking as a Michigander, it just amuses me to no end how Washington just hung the Big 3 out to dry (a decision I kind of agreed with, with an eye towards MI's longterm health) and crowed about how sensible that made them, but are now freaking out over the ramifications of those actions.

Do they live in some fantasy land where entering bankruptcy means that nothing changes and no jobs would be lost?

Concerned troll is concerned?

eqtworld: We should just make a law restricting the right of American citizens to make purchasing decisions based on quality and price.

They don't need to. The corporatists have already done that themselves.

Do any right wing memes ever die?

And let the politics begin.

This is how government programs become unwieldy and bloated. No one is willing to sacrifice in order to do the right thing. They will fight to keep dealerships open forever, even if they aren't selling any product, pumping money to their friends and contributors under the guise of keeping jobs. They aren't creating or keeping jobs, this is welfare, and nothing more.

Blathering Idjut: Do any right wing memes ever die?

Considering how they tend to use the same talking points for years, - no - probably not.

/ Saint Reagon saved economics!

But its OK because 90% of them are republican contributors....

So its simple political hit list type stuff and democrats are ok with that.

or else.

I'm not a Congressperson, but I play one on Fark, and let me say I am shocked, shocked, I say, that our decisions could have negative consequences. Obviously, we were not told that closing businesses would result in the loss of jobs. I have asked that a special panel be convened to investigate the cause of this loss of jobs, at a time when we Americans are struggling with the worst economy since the Great Depression. Corporations that continue to throw out honest, hard working Americans at the behest of some obscure branch of government benefit from the lapse of regulation that was instituted by the Bush Administration and without any input from Congress.
/I can do this all day.
//Vote for me!
///Don't look at the man behind the curtain.

They should be glad. That's fewer Republicans with money in their district.

So...he's a socialist for brokering a deal to sell Chrysler to Fiat and now they are are complaining that he's not being socialist enough by not picking and choosing which dealers get the ax?

me_the_farker: So...he's a socialist for brokering a deal to sell Chrysler to Fiat and now they are are complaining that he's not being socialist enough by not picking and choosing which dealers get the ax?

+1

Weaver95: it rains on the just and unjust alike.

Except in California.

So Democrats...who were supposedly targeting Republican dealerships...are now concerned about those Republican dealerships closing...and Republicans are upset about this?


I am really confused...

Life: shiat happens that some people may not like.

They wrote a letter to Obama? I was told he had nothing to do with it.

Mentat: Weaver95: it rains on the just and unjust alike.

Except in California.

Dog in alleyway....

nope, not gonna go there.

this is easily the most retarded "OMFG, Left Vs Right!" warrgrhbl I've ever seen. This is why I find it hard to sympathize with anyoen screaming about bias...

Penske is looking at other manufacturers to rebadge as Saturns.

I see nothing but epic fail in the cards for Saturn. Have fun driving your Tatas and Cherys as they fall apart even more quickly that the rebadged GMs that Saturns have become.

wingnut396: Penske is looking at other manufacturers to rebadge as Saturns.

I see nothing but epic fail in the cards for Saturn. Have fun driving your Tatas and Cherys as they fall apart even more quickly that the rebadged GMs that Saturns have become.

Saturn really pissed me off. I finally get to the point where I can afford a new car, and the lousy bastards had abandoned the whole reason for the company in the first place -- which was fuel efficient sport compact cars to compete with Asia's cars en-lieu of more generic midsized sedans and 4 wheeled drive crossover SUVs they've been building the last few years. Farking stupid.

FeedTheCollapse: this is easily the most retarded "OMFG, Left Vs Right!" warrgrhbl I've ever seen. This is why I find it hard to sympathize with anyoen screaming about bias...

Oh if you think THIS is bad, wait until we get closer to the 2010 midterm congressional elections. we're going to see conspiracy theory nutballs crawling out of the woodwork screaming about ACORN and wiretaps and voter fraud.

Gads, I hope this will put the stupid "They are closing Republican Owned Businesses" screed. I'm sure there were several political decisions regarding the closings and I would love to see the criteria, but to simply say Obama's closing down Republican Dealerships is and was a fallacy.

Weaver95: Oh if you think THIS is bad, wait until we get closer to the 2010 midterm congressional elections. we're going to see conspiracy theory nutballs crawling out of the woodwork screaming about ACORN and wiretaps and voter fraud

One can only hope that all of the voter fraud cases get heard before then, but you're probably right. The sad thing too, is that there will probably be some truth hidden behind lots of whargarbll.

Even people from ACORN are suing the organization for Freedom of Information and claiming it's become a dirty creature.

/ACORN should be watched closely.

CanisNoir: Weaver95: Oh if you think THIS is bad, wait until we get closer to the 2010 midterm congressional elections. we're going to see conspiracy theory nutballs crawling out of the woodwork screaming about ACORN and wiretaps and voter fraud

One can only hope that all of the voter fraud cases get heard before then, but you're probably right. The sad thing too, is that there will probably be some truth hidden behind lots of whargarbll.

Even people from ACORN are suing the organization for Freedom of Information and claiming it's become a dirty creature.

/ACORN should be watched closely.

CanisNoir: all of the voter fraud cases get heard

CanisNoir: voter fraud

Hee hee

Blathering Idjut: Do any right wing memes ever die?

No, they only become left wing memes.

Cars are a totally ludicrous idea anyway. We'd be better off raising taxes to make it prohibitively expensive to own a car and building usable public transit infrastructure and riding our bikes to the nearest bus stop/train station to get to work.

Using personal 1-or-more-ton vehicles powered by gasoline combustion as a primary, day-to-day transportation mode is simply retarded.

bigpeeler: Blathering Idjut: Do any right wing memes ever die?

No, they only become left wing memes.

lexslamman: Cars are a totally ludicrous idea anyway. We'd be better off raising taxes to make it prohibitively expensive to own a car and building usable public transit infrastructure and riding our bikes to the nearest bus stop/train station to get to work.

Using personal 1-or-more-ton vehicles powered by gasoline combustion as a primary, day-to-day transportation mode is simply retarded.

I take it that you don't own a car?

I try to stay more middle-of-the-road but I am seeing something sorta funny on the right in this instance, I guess. Does the conservative "let them fail!" attitude about horribly mismanaged big banks not apply to the horribly mismanaged GM?


/stupid shiat going on to the left, too

CanisNoir: Weaver95: Oh if you think THIS is bad, wait until we get closer to the 2010 midterm congressional elections. we're going to see conspiracy theory nutballs crawling out of the woodwork screaming about ACORN and wiretaps and voter fraud

One can only hope that all of the voter fraud cases get heard before then, but you're probably right. The sad thing too, is that there will probably be some truth hidden behind lots of whargarbll.

Even people from ACORN are suing the organization for Freedom of Information and claiming it's become a dirty creature.

/ACORN should be watched closely.

Even though countless exhaustive third party investigations into ACORN have repeatedly found that all of their inconsistencies have been errors of neglect, not of intent, thus not meeting the criteria for an indictment for fraud? Don't you think it would be a waste of taxpayer money to superfluously investigate an organization that has been investigated constantly for the better part of a decade with no criminal indictments ever brought before a court?

In fact, the only thing that conservatives' repeated crusades against ACORN has ever successfully brought up was the illegal firing of David Iglesias by the Bush Administration. Way to go.

In fact, all this WHARRGARBL about ACORN comes from bald-faced lies told by a desperate John McCain and the floundering Republican Party during the 2008 campaign season. Don't believe me?

Factcheck has it all (new window)

archichris: But its OK because 90% of them are republican contributors....

So its simple political hit list type stuff and democrats are ok with that.

or else.

What in the name of all that's holy are you on about?

Nemo's Brother: lexslamman: Cars are a totally ludicrous idea anyway. We'd be better off raising taxes to make it prohibitively expensive to own a car and building usable public transit infrastructure and riding our bikes to the nearest bus stop/train station to get to work.

Using personal 1-or-more-ton vehicles powered by gasoline combustion as a primary, day-to-day transportation mode is simply retarded.

I take it that you don't own a car?

I am a bicycle commuter. My wife has a car for emergencies, but usually walks to work.

Nemo's Brother: I take it that you don't own a car?

I take it you live out in East Buttfark, Nowheresville?

archichris: But its OK because 90% of them are republican contributors....

So its simple political hit list type stuff and democrats are ok with that.

or else.

Yet another example of right wing projection.

lexslamman: Cars are a totally ludicrous idea anyway. We'd be better off raising taxes to make it prohibitively expensive to own a car and building usable public transit infrastructure and riding our bikes to the nearest bus stop/train station to get to work.

Using personal 1-or-more-ton vehicles powered by gasoline combustion as a primary, day-to-day transportation mode is simply retarded.

But...but...the train from Disneyland to Vegas!

/Boonies-resider.
//If I don't have a car, I don't have a life.
///Well...it's debatable whether I have a life even if I do have a car...

Bigger Leftist Intarweb Schlong: CanisNoir: all of the voter fraud cases get heard

CanisNoir: voter fraud

Hee hee

that's not even a funny motivational...

lexslamman: Nemo's Brother: lexslamman: Cars are a totally ludicrous idea anyway. We'd be better off raising taxes to make it prohibitively expensive to own a car and building usable public transit infrastructure and riding our bikes to the nearest bus stop/train station to get to work.

Using personal 1-or-more-ton vehicles powered by gasoline combustion as a primary, day-to-day transportation mode is simply retarded.

I take it that you don't own a car?

I am a bicycle commuter. My wife has a car for emergencies, but usually walks to work.

So don't drive a car, get the nice exercise benefits of a bicycle, and quit acting like there's a moral superiority associated with not using a car.

Listerine: lexslamman: Nemo's Brother: lexslamman: Cars are a totally ludicrous idea anyway. We'd be better off raising taxes to make it prohibitively expensive to own a car and building usable public transit infrastructure and riding our bikes to the nearest bus stop/train station to get to work.

Using personal 1-or-more-ton vehicles powered by gasoline combustion as a primary, day-to-day transportation mode is simply retarded.

I take it that you don't own a car?

I am a bicycle commuter. My wife has a car for emergencies, but usually walks to work.

So don't drive a car, get the nice exercise benefits of a bicycle, and quit acting like there's a moral superiority associated with not using a car.

Where in the post did make a moral judgment at all? Using a 1 ton mechanical vehicle to transport a 200lb bag of meat and feces from point A to point B is pretty farking retarded.

it's always funny to see farkers opine on sibjects they know little or nothing about.

Here's a thought, if you have interest in a specific subject why not take the time to learn as much as you can about it...THEN share a thought or two.

Yeah, I know....what a ridiculous idea!

IlGreven: lexslamman: Cars are a totally ludicrous idea anyway. We'd be better off raising taxes to make it prohibitively expensive to own a car and building usable public transit infrastructure and riding our bikes to the nearest bus stop/train station to get to work.

Using personal 1-or-more-ton vehicles powered by gasoline combustion as a primary, day-to-day transportation mode is simply retarded.

But...but...the train from Disneyland to Vegas!

/Boonies-resider.
//If I don't have a car, I don't have a life.
///Well...it's debatable whether I have a life even if I do have a car...

It would be best to leave the boonies. We should be growing food and opening parks in those po-dunk towns and we should all be living in cities. The 'white-flight' of people from cities to suburbs and exurbs is what has fueled the whole automobile problem in this country in the first place. However, in the long run people can live where they are/want.

The best compromise I can think of is to include buses from non-urban areas to connect with places of employment. Jobs aren't coming back to small towns, and the idea of the successful small independent farmer in this country is all but dead. No matter where we live, the vast majority of us are going to work in the city. The tricky part is getting employees into the city without using prohibitively expensive and pollutive freeways and personal automobiles. Mass transit is the way to go.

libbynomore2: it's always funny to see farkers opine on sibjects they know little or nothing about.

Here's a thought, if you have interest in a specific subject why not take the time to learn as much as you can about it...THEN share a thought or two.

Yeah, I know....what a ridiculous idea!

Irony?

DarnoKonrad: Listerine: lexslamman: Nemo's Brother: lexslamman: Cars are a totally ludicrous idea anyway. We'd be better off raising taxes to make it prohibitively expensive to own a car and building usable public transit infrastructure and riding our bikes to the nearest bus stop/train station to get to work.

Using personal 1-or-more-ton vehicles powered by gasoline combustion as a primary, day-to-day transportation mode is simply retarded.

I take it that you don't own a car?

I am a bicycle commuter. My wife has a car for emergencies, but usually walks to work.

So don't drive a car, get the nice exercise benefits of a bicycle, and quit acting like there's a moral superiority associated with not using a car.

Where in the post did make a moral judgment at all? Using a 1 ton mechanical vehicle to transport a 200lb bag of meat and feces from point A to point B is pretty farking retarded.

yes, you've already said that. Why?

Obama's Teleprompter: Heckuva job you're doing there, darkie.

At least bring some humor if you are going to troll.

I mean a funny teleprompter picture or cartoon ...something.


Do it for teh lulz.

Listerine: lexslamman: Nemo's Brother: lexslamman: Cars are a totally ludicrous idea anyway. We'd be better off raising taxes to make it prohibitively expensive to own a car and building usable public transit infrastructure and riding our bikes to the nearest bus stop/train station to get to work.

Using personal 1-or-more-ton vehicles powered by gasoline combustion as a primary, day-to-day transportation mode is simply retarded.

I take it that you don't own a car?

I am a bicycle commuter. My wife has a car for emergencies, but usually walks to work.

So don't drive a car, get the nice exercise benefits of a bicycle, and quit acting like there's a moral superiority associated with not using a car.

There is an ethical and financial benefit to not using cars that we're all going to appreciate in the coming years of escalating gas prices and rising global average temperatures.

libbynomore2: it's always funny to see farkers opine on sibjects they know little or nothing about.

Here's a thought, if you have interest in a specific subject why not take the time to learn as much as you can about it...THEN share a thought or two.

Yeah, I know....what a ridiculous idea!

Thank you for that lesson in hypocrisy.

Listerine: DarnoKonrad: Listerine: lexslamman: Nemo's Brother: lexslamman: Cars are a totally ludicrous idea anyway. We'd be better off raising taxes to make it prohibitively expensive to own a car and building usable public transit infrastructure and riding our bikes to the nearest bus stop/train station to get to work.

Using personal 1-or-more-ton vehicles powered by gasoline combustion as a primary, day-to-day transportation mode is simply retarded.

I take it that you don't own a car?

I am a bicycle commuter. My wife has a car for emergencies, but usually walks to work.

So don't drive a car, get the nice exercise benefits of a bicycle, and quit acting like there's a moral superiority associated with not using a car.

Where in the post did make a moral judgment at all? Using a 1 ton mechanical vehicle to transport a 200lb bag of meat and feces from point A to point B is pretty farking retarded.

yes, you've already said that. Why?

You've? Get you posters straight.

So now the goal posts have moved to 'why' it's retarded? I thought your beef was some projected superiority complex.

lexslamman: There is an ethical and financial benefit to not using cars that we're all going to appreciate in the coming years of escalating gas prices and rising global average temperatures.

you can go be all moral and ethical. I need a car to get to and from work.

lexslamman: Listerine: lexslamman: Nemo's Brother: lexslamman: Cars are a totally ludicrous idea anyway. We'd be better off raising taxes to make it prohibitively expensive to own a car and building usable public transit infrastructure and riding our bikes to the nearest bus stop/train station to get to work.

Using personal 1-or-more-ton vehicles powered by gasoline combustion as a primary, day-to-day transportation mode is simply retarded.

I take it that you don't own a car?

I am a bicycle commuter. My wife has a car for emergencies, but usually walks to work.

So don't drive a car, get the nice exercise benefits of a bicycle, and quit acting like there's a moral superiority associated with not using a car.

There is an ethical and financial benefit to not using cars that we're all going to appreciate in the coming years of escalating gas prices and rising global average temperatures.

thanks for doing your part to save the world

libbynomore2: it's always funny to see farkers opine on sibjects they know little or nothing about.

Here's a thought, if you have interest in a specific subject why not take the time to learn as much as you can about it...THEN share a thought or two.

Yeah, I know....what a ridiculous idea!

Do you people just not have spellchecker? Don't most browsers tell you automatically when you misspell something? It just boggles my mind when someone tries to insult someones intellect and can't spell "subject" correctly.