Bad_ad85: How do i set this damn thing to British?

You need a special adapter.

I hear Bilbo Tea-Baggins is from some shire or another.

Oh, there it goes.

They should scour those places, I mean seriously scour them.

And to think the Labour party could have called elections back in October and maintained a safe margin.

Peer through the looking glass.

Well, I'm back....

Did Raymond Luxury-Yacht win?

They won on a platform of "taking the hobbits to Isengard"

There has been a rash of rancid pies all across the Shire. And why has this happened, you ask? Because the privileged few are hoarding the best fillings for themselves, that's why!

/what's she talking about?

Backlash over the nannystate mentality?

FTFA:In Hartlepool, independent Stuart Drummond was re-elected for a third term as mayor. The former Hartlepool United mascot - known as H'Angus the Monkey - first won office in 2002.

So, is H'Angus the Monkey out of power now or not? I generally don't meddle in international affairs, but I'll go door to door for H'Angus the Monkey.

fishsticks: FTFA:In Hartlepool, independent Stuart Drummond was re-elected for a third term as mayor. The former Hartlepool United mascot - known as H'Angus the Monkey - first won office in 2002.

So, is H'Angus the Monkey out of power now or not? I generally don't meddle in international affairs, but I'll go door to door for H'Angus the Monkey.

PRAY... FOR... H'ANGUS

British government brought to its knees by former UW Daily sex-advice columnist. film at 11

Mentat: Did Raymond Luxury-Yacht win?

You lost, get over it! Quit being all butthurt!

/Am I doing it right?

Shire weed to blame?

Utterly astonishing.

I expected some losses after the expenses malarky but an utter, absolute wipe-out of Labour majority counties is near unbelievable.

Especially since the shiate that has hit the fan isn't really Labours fault. The recession was more due to what happened in the US than anything Brown did, and it appears the Tories were just as questionable with their expenses as Labour.

I'd have expected more folks to turn away from both of the main parties and perhaps see a resurgance of the only other remotely serios party, the Liberal Democrats.

Mentat: Did Raymond Luxury-Yacht win?

That's pronounced "Throat-Warbler Mangrove".

/Alan Jones (Sensible) - 9,112
Kevin Phillips-Bong (Slightly Silly) - Nought
Tarquin Fin- tim- lin- bin- whin- bim- lin- bus- stop- F'tang- F'tang- Olé- Biscuitbarrel (Silly). - 12,441.
//And so the Silly Party has taken Luton.
///Can I just add at this point that this is in fact the second time I've ever been on television?

Wow, I knew this was going to happen, but I didn't think it would be this one sided.

Take note, democrats. This is what happens when you become a nanny state, raise taxes too high, and generally fark the people over "for their own good". You may think the republicans are out for the count, but you have 3 1/2 years to really screw things up and open the door for them. Hell, screw things up quick enough and you could see a republican comeback in the midterm election.

I know a whole lot of people with buyer's remorse on voting for Obama. It will only get worse.

OgreMagi: Wow, I knew this was going to happen, but I didn't think it would be this one sided.

Take note, democrats. This is what happens when you become a nanny state, raise taxes too high, and generally fark the people over "for their own good". You may think the republicans are out for the count, but you have 3 1/2 years to really screw things up and open the door for them. Hell, screw things up quick enough and you could see a republican comeback in the midterm election.

I know a whole lot of people with buyer's remorse on voting for Obama. It will only get worse.

Hi, perhaps you missed something, but the Republicans were rejected just like New Labour... Britains lagging behind us, not paving the way.

I welcome Cameron to power, the Conservatives are good atlanticists and will keep the Special Relationship flowing!

fishsticks: So, is H'Angus the Monkey out of power now or not? I generally don't meddle in international affairs, but I'll go door to door for H'Angus the Monkey.

Don't worry, the monkey is still Mayor.

You need to understand a bit of the history of Hartlepool to understand the significance: Who hung the monkey? (^)

OgreMagi: Wow, I knew this was going to happen, but I didn't think it would be this one sided.

Take note, democrats. This is what happens when you become a nanny state, raise taxes too high, and generally fark the people over "for their own good". You may think the republicans are out for the count, but you have 3 1/2 years to really screw things up and open the door for them. Hell, screw things up quick enough and you could see a republican comeback in the midterm election. I know a whole lot of people with buyer's remorse on voting for Obama. It will only get worse. have been in power for over a decade and faced massive criticism over a number of financial and military decisions, and the local elections take place during a massive controversy over MP corruption while in the middle of a recession.

If you think the Tories are somehow against "nanny state" tactics, you're deluded. Then again, most Americans seem to think that any reported decision made by a private company over security is somehow a nationwide government decision, so maybe you don't know the difference.

As for the Obama comment, your 2 party system essentially made people choose between Obama and McCain/Palin. Do these people with "buyer's remorse" honestly believe that they would have done a better job, or are they just sore that he hasn't waved the magic wand the media (not Obama himself) seemed to promise? Those people should ask themselves if they voted Obama because of his actual policies, the spin put on them by the media or just based on personality/looks/something else superficial. If anything but the first one, maybe they should look into who they're actually voting for next time. If they did vote for the intelligent reason, it's actually too early to tell what the effects of his policies are going to be - they should check back in 18 months and see how things are then.

thenewflesh: OgreMagi: Wow, I knew this was going to happen, but I didn't think it would be this one sided.

Take note, democrats. This is what happens when you become a nanny state, raise taxes too high, and generally fark the people over "for their own good". You may think the republicans are out for the count, but you have 3 1/2 years to really screw things up and open the door for them. Hell, screw things up quick enough and you could see a republican comeback in the midterm election. I know a whole lot of people with buyer's remorse on voting for Obama. It will only get worse. have been in power for over a decade and faced massive criticism over a number of financial and military decisions, and the local elections take place during a massive controversy over MP corruption while in the middle of a recession.

If you think the Tories are somehow against "nanny state" tactics, you're deluded. Then again, most Americans seem to think that any reported decision made by a private company over security is somehow a nationwide government decision, so maybe you don't know the difference.

As for the Obama comment, your 2 party system essentially made people choose between Obama and McCain/Palin. Do these people with "buyer's remorse" honestly believe that they would have done a better job, or are they just sore that he hasn't waved the magic wand the media (not Obama himself) seemed to promise? Those people should ask themselves if they voted Obama because of his actual policies, the spin put on them by the media or just based on personality/looks/something else superficial. If anything but the first one, maybe they should look into who they're actually voting for next time. If they did vote for the intelligent reason, it's actually too early to tell what the effects of his policies are going to be - they should check back in 18 months and see how things are then.

I'll skip most of what you wrote about the British election since I have limited knowledge of politics across the pond.

Most people in this country don't vote based on intellectual reasons. They vote for the best personality. It's American Idol. Obama gives a great speech. Based on that alone, I would have voted for him. He's good. He's better than McCain. However, I NEVER use campaign speeches as a basis for my vote. I look at past voting record. Obama's voting record was dismal compared to my political beliefs (see my profile). McCain's wasn't perfect, but it was somewhat of a moderate stance, overall. Palin was almost a deal breaker for me. I nearly sat the election out because of her. In the end, I voted for McCain and prayed (and I'm not religious) that he wouldn't die in office and make Palin president.

OgreMagi: Wow, I knew this was going to happen, but I didn't think it would be this one sided.

Take note, democrats. This is what happens when you become a nanny state, raise taxes too high, and generally fark the people over "for their own good". You may think the republicans are out for the count, but you have 3 1/2 years to really screw things up and open the door for them. Hell, screw things up quick enough and you could see a republican comeback in the midterm election.

I know a whole lot of people with buyer's remorse on voting for Obama. It will only get worse.

How about this: I will never again in my life vote for a Republican for any office, no matter how small. I consider all of their policies to be dishonorable to criminal, and their members completely dishonest. We need another party besides the Democrats, but let it be someone else, anyone else.

Mayhem_2006: Utterly astonishing.

I expected some losses after the expenses malarky but an utter, absolute wipe-out of Labour majority counties is near unbelievable.

Especially since the shiate that has hit the fan isn't really Labours fault. The recession was more due to what happened in the US than anything Brown did, and it appears the Tories were just as questionable with their expenses as Labour.

I'd have expected more folks to turn away from both of the main parties and perhaps see a resurgance of the only other remotely serios party, the Liberal Democrats.

dont assume that this vote is simply a result of the expenses scandal, a lot of people (myself included) voted against labour due to their legislative history. i dont want to live in a police state.

The pendulum is swinging back.


Alphax: I will never again in my life vote for a Republican for any office, no matter how small. I consider all of their policies to be dishonorable to criminal, and their members completely dishonest.


Do you actually even believe your own bullshiat? You are freak.

SVC_conservative: Hi, perhaps you missed something, but the Republicans were rejected just like New Labour... Britains lagging behind us, not paving the way.

I disagree. The US election in 2008 bears closer similarity to the 1997 election in the UK when New Labour swept to power, replacing a deeply unpopular Conservative government and gaining a strong majority in the legislature.

The Conservatives then spent the next decade in an idealogical wilderness (really they still are) with no clear leader, reacting in opposition to the plans of the Labour government rather than developing policies of their own beyond the standard 'lower taxes'. Remind you of the situation facing another party on your side of the pond?

The recent successes of the Tory party are based on the utter disillusionment felt toward Labour, who have failed to deliver on many of the promises of change they made when being elected - 'Tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime' and being 'whiter than white' to name but a few. Unchecked by effective opposition, Labour have also set about expanding the powers of government at the expense of civil liberties, which has done a lot to drive away voters.

I think the Democrats, like Labour have, are likely to enjoy a long stretch in power but expect to see people gradually turning away from them (and to the Republicans) as they become sick of government excesses and broken promises.

OgreMagi: Most people in this country don't vote based on intellectual reasons. They vote for the best personality. It's American Idol. Obama gives a great speech. Based on that alone, I would have voted for him. He's good. He's better than McCain. However, I NEVER use campaign speeches as a basis for my vote. I look at past voting record. Obama's voting record was dismal compared to my political beliefs (see my profile). McCain's wasn't perfect, but it was somewhat of a moderate stance, overall. Palin was almost a deal breaker for me. I nearly sat the election out because of her. In the end, I voted for McCain and prayed (and I'm not religious) that he wouldn't die in office and make Palin president.

Judging past voting record without understanding context is almost as dumb as voting personality. Look beyond voting history, dig into the background of the candidate to understand motivation, intelligence, judgment, critical thinking abilities, ability to make things happen in a positive way. If you don't like a judgment they made, try to find out why they made that decision and see if it made sense. See if they can back up their speeches and campaign promises with concrete examples of experience and achievement. It's also pretty easy, I think, to judge a candidate's motivation of actually trying to make a difference vs. adherence to politics as usual and working just to advance his or her own political career.

OgreMagi: Take note, democrats. This is what happens when you become a nanny state, raise taxes too high, and generally fark the people over "for their own good". You may think the republicans are out for the count, but you have 3 1/2 years to really screw things up and open the door for them. Hell, screw things up quick enough and you could see a republican comeback in the midterm election.

And how long were the Tories out of power after they imploded? 12 years? I guess I'll see you in 2020.

Tories?



/ hot

and the Netherlands beat England at cricket. Truly we live in the end times.

And in another ten years or so, people disappointed with the Tories doing the same will vote Labour back in.

Some countries never learn.

Alphax: I consider all of their policies to be dishonorable to criminal, and their members completely dishonest.

As opposed to?

manduwala: and the Netherlands beat England at cricket. Truly we live in the end times.

And for a moment I thought we might be beat by Kazakhstan at football. That really would've been a sign of the apocolypse.

MikoSquiz: And in another ten years or so, people disappointed with the Tories doing the same will vote Labour back in.

Welcome to democracy.

Some countries never learn.

Do tell me which countries have 'learnt'?

Take note, democrats. This is what happens when you whhhaaaaa, whhhhaaaaaaaar, and generally gaaaaarrrrrrrrbbbl. You may think the republicans are out for the count, but you have 3 1/2 years to gaaaaaarrrrrrrrbbbl and open the door for them. Hell, screw things up quick enough and you could see a whhhhhaaaaaaaaaaarrgaaaaaaaarrrrrrrbbbl.

Whitewabbit: dont assume that this vote is simply a result of the expenses scandal, a lot of people (myself included) voted against labour due to their legislative history. i dont want to live in a police state.

Boy, are you in for a disappointment...

LonMead: Can I just add at this point that this is in fact the second time I've ever been on television?

No, I'm sorry there isn't time, we're just about to get another result.

It is pretty amusing to see the British government get so screwed up. Mostly because of how close it seems to failing and the relatively short time in which it has happened.

They also took our precious.

678583: Alphax: I consider all of their policies to be dishonorable to criminal, and their members completely dishonest.

As opposed to?

People who can be honest?

Alphax: 678583: Alphax: I consider all of their policies to be dishonorable to criminal, and their members completely dishonest.

As opposed to?

People who can be honest?

We're talking about politicians here.

Redscum: Alphax: 678583: Alphax: I consider all of their policies to be dishonorable to criminal, and their members completely dishonest.

As opposed to?

People who can be honest?

We're talking about politicians here.

Not just politicians, no.