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(CBC) Stupid Proposed Canadian law would allow victims of terrorism to sue individuals, organizations or even foreign states that support terrorism   (cbc.ca) divider line 115
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Tatsuma [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 04:48:33 PM  
One of the very few things that ever came out of the Canadian justice system that made sense, but somehow it's stupid, subby?

 
BackAssward [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 04:58:35 PM  
Tatsuma: One of the very few things that ever came out of the Canadian justice system that made sense, but somehow it's stupid, subby?

We have tons of great things in our justice system there tats... oh wait, the article references Harper at the Canadian Jewish Congress? Ah, so your racial partisanship is showing, yet again.

 
hillbillypharmacist [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 05:01:47 PM  
Tatsuma: One of the very few things that ever came out of the Canadian justice system that made sense, but somehow it's stupid, subby?

Yeah, I can't imagine any spurious lawsuits coming out of that, especially if such a thing were approved in the States. How many freepers would immediately sue Obama?

 
40below [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 05:10:34 PM  
So I can sue America for stuff like Green Day, citing psychological terrorism? Cool. Tell the lawyers to clear their desks.

 
Megain [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 05:12:36 PM  

because i was curious

Canadian law defines a 'terrorist activity' in the Criminal Code as an action that takes place either within or outside of Canada that is an offense under one of the ten United Nations anti-terrorism conventions and protocols; or is an action: taken or threatened for political, religious, or ideological purposes and threatens the public or national security by killing, seriously harming or endangering a person, substantial property damage that is likely to seriously harm people or by interfering with or disrupting an essential service, facility or system.

 
angrymacface [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 05:14:07 PM  
I'm curious how the whole suing foreign countries in a Canadian court thing would work. Otherwise, I fail to see how this is stupid.

 
hillbillypharmacist [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 05:19:46 PM  
angrymacface: I'm curious how the whole suing foreign countries in a Canadian court thing would work.

It involves large men in ice skates and a handful of teeth knocking on your door.

 
angrymacface [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 05:26:51 PM  
hillbillypharmacist: It involves large men in ice skates and a handful of teeth knocking on your door.

That wouldn't bother me a bit; I've got a thing for hockey players.

Mmmm. Hockey players...

*drool*

 
Tatsuma [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 05:58:00 PM  
BackAssward: Ah, so your racial partisanship is showing, yet again.

Funny, I hadn't actually RTFA

 
Crosshair [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 06:22:13 PM  
Megain: because i was curiousCanadian law defines a 'terrorist activity' in the Criminal Code as an action that takes place either within or outside of Canada that is an offense under one of the ten United Nations anti-terrorism conventions and protocols; or is an action: taken or threatened for political, religious, or ideological purposes and threatens the public or national security by killing, seriously harming or endangering a person, substantial property damage that is likely to seriously harm people or by interfering with or disrupting an essential service, facility or system.

So the US government is going to get sued for economic terrorism. Probably quite a few Canadian secured creditors who are getting screwed over by the governments actions in the automotive bankruptcies.

I would guess there are Canadian investment firms that are being harmed because they didn't invest foolishly and can't take expand because the US fed is propping up bankrupt institutions.

It would be interesting seeing Hugo Chavez, George Bush, and Barack Obama all being listed as defendants in such a lawsuit.

 
Alacritous [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 06:28:16 PM  
angrymacface: I'm curious how the whole suing foreign countries in a Canadian court thing would work

They can seize funds held by the foreign player in Canada institutions. Just like they do in the States.

 
Tatsuma [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 06:40:57 PM  
Alacritous: They can seize funds held by the foreign player in Canada institutions. Just like they do in the States.

Indeed.

In fact, these kind of laws are the best tool you can create to destroy terrorist organizations. Basically, you can bankrupt the shiat out of them, leaving them out of money to carry out operations.

 
oldfarthenry [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 06:41:02 PM  
Ha Ha! The next one of you haters who hurts my feelings is getting sued!

 
Megain [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 06:43:05 PM  
oldfarthenry: Ha Ha! The next one of you haters who hurts my feelings is getting sued!

oh, shut up you damn hippy

 
krupintupple 2009-05-31 06:59:05 PM  
I wonder if Maher Arar will be using this.

I double wonder if somewhere at the bottom of the page, Harper wrote "p.s. Maher Arar can't complain, nor go after the RCMP, CSIS or the CIA that led him to Syria to be tortured."

 
Falcc 2009-05-31 07:03:03 PM  
Tatsuma: BackAssward: Ah, so your racial partisanship is showing, yet again.

Funny, I hadn't actually RTFA

At this point I'm pretty sure you can just sense these things. It's okay, you don't have to admit it.

 
Tatsuma [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 07:04:40 PM  
Falcc: At this point I'm pretty sure you can just sense these things. It's okay, you don't have to admit it.

My jewdar is finely tuned, I admit (still didn't know it was about the CJC meeting with Harper though)

 
devioustrevor 2009-05-31 07:13:13 PM  
Laws like this give me pause. There are so many ways to abuse it. For instance Tatsuma seems all amped for it, but what happens when Palestinians start using the law to go after Israel and Jewish Charity Groups for expanding West Bank settlements. Will he be so keen on the law then?

 
Kierkegaard's Pseudonym 2009-05-31 07:21:54 PM  
I may be a bit hazy on my geography, but I don't think Canada has jurisdiction over any country that isn't Canada.

 
libbynomore2 2009-05-31 07:23:10 PM  
Tatsuma [TotalFark] Quote 2009-05-31 04:48:33 PM
One of the very few things that ever came out of the Canadian justice system that made sense, but somehow it's stupid, subby?


YES...IT IS STUPID! you moran!!!!!

Can't believe that you actually believe suing a terrorist or a state that supports them would amount to anything more than the pile of shiat that is your opinion.

You know the families of Americans who died on Pan Am flight 103 ( do you have even the FIRST clue what that means? ) sued Lybia and the terrorist they supported........they got NOTHING.....no money and most importantly, no justice....

Yes, it's completely stupid.........let me guess....you're an Obama supporter aren't you?

 
Nemo's Brother 2009-05-31 07:23:16 PM  
40below: So I can sue America for stuff like Green Day, citing psychological terrorism? Cool. Tell the lawyers to clear their desks.

I don't think a Canadian wants to get in a suing war with the US over music.

 
Nakor BlueRider 2009-05-31 07:26:40 PM  
I wonder if the liberals would then sue Harper's conservatives for the mud-slinging ads against Ignatieff.

 
Outshined_One [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 07:26:46 PM  
Look up the Alien Tort Statute and the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act, subby. The US allows it, too.

 
I_Love_Cheesecake 2009-05-31 07:28:53 PM  
This is blatant ass-kissing by the Conservative government to the Jewish community in Canada - nothing more.

The Harper is government is more pro-Israel than Israel.

/no wonder Tatsuma loves the legislation
//ashamed Canadian

 
libbynomore2 2009-05-31 07:34:09 PM  
I_Love_Cheesecake Quote 2009-05-31 07:28:53 PM
This is blatant ass-kissing by the Conservative government to the Jewish community in Canada - nothing more.

The Harper is government is more pro-Israel than Israel.

/no wonder Tatsuma loves the legislation
//ashamed Canadian


Wow....you're both stupid AND bigoted........I'd say you must have worked really hard on that but it's clear that stupid and ignorance comes very easy for you...

/if only we could sue stupid people...I'd so love to be able to force some of you idiots to defend your positions in a court of law under cross examination....
//pay per view baby....

 
Kierkegaard's Pseudonym 2009-05-31 07:34:18 PM  
Outshined_One: Look up the Alien Tort Statute and the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act, subby. The US allows it, too.

I Wiki'd those, but didn't see anything about how you enforce such a thing.

If someone was suing me in Iran for some purported terrorist activity, I just wouldn't show up.

 
Swampthing in Korea 2009-05-31 07:34:53 PM  
If this passes, expect to see lots of outraged Lefties suing the US because little Johnny Shaheed ran towards a US convoy in Iraq carrying a grenade.

 
BackAssward [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 07:38:25 PM  
Tatsuma: BackAssward: Ah, so your racial partisanship is showing, yet again.

Funny, I hadn't actually RTFA

So, we trade one ignorance for another. You're commenting in a smug fashion on an article you haven't actually read. Yeah, that's so much better.

 
brainiac-dumdum [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 07:39:45 PM  
Swampthing in Korea: If this passes, expect to see lots of outraged Lefties suing the US because little Johnny Shaheed ran towards a US convoy in Iraq carrying a grenade.

this made me chuckle

 
Bucky Katt [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 07:47:47 PM  
The only stupid part is that they didn't pass this law years ago.

 
AmazingRuss 2009-05-31 07:47:56 PM  
You people are frightening me. I'm calling my lawyer.

 
jake3988 2009-05-31 07:48:01 PM  
if you sue someone from a country, it's tried in international courts presided by international law.

So, it would have no effect unless intra-country.

 
Bucky Katt [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 07:51:49 PM  
libbynomore2: Tatsuma [TotalFark] Quote 2009-05-31 04:48:33 PM
One of the very few things that ever came out of the Canadian justice system that made sense, but somehow it's stupid, subby?


YES...IT IS STUPID! you moran!!!!!

Can't believe that you actually believe suing a terrorist or a state that supports them would amount to anything more than the pile of shiat that is your opinion.

You know the families of Americans who died on Pan Am flight 103 ( do you have even the FIRST clue what that means? ) sued Lybia and the terrorist they supported........they got NOTHING.....no money and most importantly, no justice....

Yes, it's completely stupid.........let me guess....you're an Obama supporter aren't you?

Libby, seriously, you need to add more fiber to your diet. And restart your meds.

 
Gyrfalcon [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 07:52:41 PM  
Tatsuma: BackAssward: Ah, so your racial partisanship is showing, yet again.

Funny, I hadn't actually RTFA

I am so totally not surprised. You'd support the return of fascism if they said they were "anti-terrorist" in any way.

 
Buck-KY 2009-05-31 07:53:43 PM  
I see the logic in this. Then again, I tend to think that parents should be made to pay for the crimes committed by their underage children... so you can't go by me.

I can also see a lot of mayhem arising from this.

 
Bucky Katt [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 07:54:08 PM  
Crosshair: Megain: because i was curiousCanadian law defines a 'terrorist activity' in the Criminal Code as an action that takes place either within or outside of Canada that is an offense under one of the ten United Nations anti-terrorism conventions and protocols; or is an action: taken or threatened for political, religious, or ideological purposes and threatens the public or national security by killing, seriously harming or endangering a person, substantial property damage that is likely to seriously harm people or by interfering with or disrupting an essential service, facility or system.

So the US government is going to get sued for economic terrorism. Probably quite a few Canadian secured creditors who are getting screwed over by the governments actions in the automotive bankruptcies.

I would guess there are Canadian investment firms that are being harmed because they didn't invest foolishly and can't take expand because the US fed is propping up bankrupt institutions.

It would be interesting seeing Hugo Chavez, George Bush, and Barack Obama all being listed as defendants in such a lawsuit.

They already get named in lawsuits all the time.

 
Bucky Katt [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 07:54:49 PM  
Buck-KY: I see the logic in this. Then again, I tend to think that parents should be made to pay for the crimes committed by their underage children... so you can't go by me.

I can also see a lot of mayhem arising from this.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

 
detfrost1 [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 07:55:25 PM  
40below: So I can sue America for stuff like Green Day, citing psychological terrorism? Cool. Tell the lawyers to clear their desks.

No retard, you can sue Britain.

 
Buck-KY 2009-05-31 07:56:22 PM  
Bucky Katt, it comes from years of being told it's a stupid idea that would never fly... I hang with some real loons.

hehe

 
Murkanen 2009-05-31 08:02:38 PM  
devioustrevor: Laws like this give me pause. There are so many ways to abuse it. For instance Tatsuma seems all amped for it, but what happens when Palestinians start using the law to go after Israel and Jewish Charity Groups for expanding West Bank settlements. Will he be so keen on the law then?

[sarcasm]It's not terrorism when Israel does it.[/sarcasm]

 
Eddie Adams from Torrance [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 08:02:54 PM  
Is invading an unrelated sovereign nation covered? Or is that still illegal in Canada?

 
Russad 2009-05-31 08:12:52 PM  
libbynomore2: I_Love_Cheesecake Quote 2009-05-31 07:28:53 PM
This is blatant ass-kissing by the Conservative government to the Jewish community in Canada - nothing more.

The Harper is government is more pro-Israel than Israel.

/no wonder Tatsuma loves the legislation
//ashamed Canadian


Wow....you're both stupid AND bigoted........I'd say you must have worked really hard on that but it's clear that stupid and ignorance comes very easy for you...

/if only we could sue stupid people...I'd so love to be able to force some of you idiots to defend your positions in a court of law under cross examination....
//pay per view baby....

Mmm, no, thank you. That was delicious, but I shan't be having any more of the irony tonight. I'm simply too stuffed, I don't know how I could enjoy more.

 
40below [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 08:15:44 PM  
detfrost1: No retard, you can sue Britain.

America, Britain, you're all just a bunch of tools who don't speak comprehensible English and live in godawful places that no one else wanted to. Anyway, consider yourself added to the list of respondents on the lawsuit.

 
InferiousX [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-05-31 08:22:04 PM  
40below: detfrost1: No retard, you can sue Britain.

America, Britain, you're all just a bunch of tools who don't speak comprehensible English and live in godawful places that no one else wanted to. Anyway, consider yourself added to the list of respondents on the lawsuit.

What's this all aboot?

 
mrEdude 2009-05-31 08:22:38 PM  
so now i can sue george bush and the USA
for their illegal invasion of iraq?

what could be more terror-fying?

hooray.

 
BackAssward [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 08:25:01 PM  
InferiousX: 40below: detfrost1: No retard, you can sue Britain.

America, Britain, you're all just a bunch of tools who don't speak comprehensible English and live in godawful places that no one else wanted to. Anyway, consider yourself added to the list of respondents on the lawsuit.

What's this all aboot?

Yeah, I have no idea what y'all aint not goin' on about. Escuse me while I go to the libary.

 
J. Frank Parnell 2009-05-31 08:28:35 PM  
The only thing truly stupid about this, is how all it takes is a political leader saying a country supports terrorism or a terrorist act to convince the world of it.

If people ever demand evidence just make a vague reference to 'sources' and that will be enough for them.

/where to next, sir?

 
sacrileg 2009-05-31 08:36:17 PM  
how the hell are we supposed to enforce a fine on a foreign government?

 
Shaggy_C 2009-05-31 08:38:50 PM  
Will the families of murdered and tortured Afghans be able to sue the Canadian government for their terror campaign? Oh, wait, it only works if it's against the West, because we're always right.

 
heinekenftw 2009-05-31 08:42:44 PM  
Russad: libbynomore2: I_Love_Cheesecake Quote 2009-05-31 07:28:53 PM
This is blatant ass-kissing by the Conservative government to the Jewish community in Canada - nothing more.

The Harper is government is more pro-Israel than Israel.

/no wonder Tatsuma loves the legislation
//ashamed Canadian


Wow....you're both stupid AND bigoted........I'd say you must have worked really hard on that but it's clear that stupid and ignorance comes very easy for you...

/if only we could sue stupid people...I'd so love to be able to force some of you idiots to defend your positions in a court of law under cross examination....
//pay per view baby....

Mmm, no, thank you. That was delicious, but I shan't be having any more of the irony tonight. I'm simply too stuffed, I don't know how I could enjoy more.

It would be fun suing Libby.

 
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