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(Daily Express) Followup Conservative talk show host Michael Savage sues the British Home Secretary for £100,000 after she called him a terrorist   (express.co.uk) divider line 225
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Tatsuma [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 11:49:49 AM  
I've never listened to his show, I don't know much about him but I pretty much hope he wins, this smells of a political hit.

To put him next to terrorists or those who form terrorists through ideology is ridiculous.

 
Mordant [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 12:24:48 PM  
You don't call someone a terrorist. The proper approach is to frame it as a question... "What if Savage is a terrorist who rapes old ladies ? I'm just asking...".

See, that way you didn't say anything bad, you just helped engage in healthy public debate about a hypothetical.

 
SpinStopper [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 12:31:05 PM  
His real last name is Weiner. Much more appropriate, in my opinion, than Savage ;)

 
FarkinNortherner [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-05-31 12:40:36 PM  
Tatsuma: To put him next to terrorists or those who form terrorists through ideology is ridiculous.

I'm not going to try to defend Jacqui Smith's decision, banning him was stupid, revealing the ban stupider still, but the decision does not suggest that he's been characterised as being as dangerous as terrorists.

The sole criterion is that visits by the people concerned are 'not in the public interest'.

 
Generation_D [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 12:44:00 PM  
They'd had enough of his noise, and they took action.

Bravo.

He's not a British citizen, and their rules say they can ban whomever they want.

I guess Wiener isn't used to being stomped by a woman. Its gotta hurt.

 
kronicfeld [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 12:44:42 PM  
I'm sorry, but I was to understand that once you've been labelled a terrorist, you are not permitted access to the justice system, whether civil or criminal. Sorry, Weiner.

 
BladBoy [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 12:49:49 PM  
Mordant: You don't call someone a terrorist. The proper approach is to frame it as a question... "What if Savage is a terrorist who rapes old ladies ? I'm just asking...".

See, that way you didn't say anything bad, you just helped engage in healthy public debate about a hypothetical.


Some people have said that Michael Savage is a terrorist that rapes underage goats.

I prefer the Fox News "some people" trick, then it isn't you that is saying anything, just some dastardly people.

 
Last One Left [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 12:54:39 PM  
FarkinNortherner: The sole criterion is that visits by the people concerned are 'not in the public interest'.

I'll believe that when they go after people who are actually dangerous like Nicolas Atwood who has actually had a hand in threatening British citizens, specifically scientists at Oxford University, instead of Savage and Snoop Dogg.

 
GAT_00 [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 01:01:59 PM  
He does his best to scare everyone who listens to him. Terrorist is a pretty good term for him.

 
PC LOAD LETTER [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 01:12:41 PM  
Did Michael Savage have sex with babies and then eat them alive while rimjobbing gay sheep?

What else DON'T we know about Michael Savage?

 
ilambiquated 2009-05-31 01:29:15 PM  
Needless to say, she didn't call him a terrorist.

 
Prohest 2009-05-31 01:29:21 PM  
Nice that these nut-cases are called what they really are..

\Send Savage to Gitmo´

 
ZipSplat 2009-05-31 01:29:40 PM  
If you've never actually listened to Michael Savage or Mark Levin, they both have podcasts. I highly recommend you give them a listen. Rarely is someone actually as absurd as Fark makes them out to be, but in the case of these two...

 
Marcus Aurelius [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 01:29:56 PM  
The sad part is he'll probably win. The UK's libel laws are a cruel joke.

/can i say that?

 
DarnoKonrad 2009-05-31 01:30:55 PM  
PC LOAD LETTER: Did Michael Savage have sex with babies and then eat them alive while rimjobbing gay sheep?

What else DON'T we know about Michael Savage?



That Tatsuma is a fan sight unseen.

 
HotWingConspiracy [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 01:32:01 PM  
Another incident of american rightwing terrorism occurring this morning. Just sayin.

 
Nemo's Brother 2009-05-31 01:33:12 PM  
Tatsuma: I've never listened to his show, I don't know much about him but I pretty much hope he wins, this smells of a political hit.

To put him next to terrorists or those who form terrorists through ideology is ridiculous.


This.

 
moops 2009-05-31 01:36:29 PM  
quakeragitator.files.wordpress.com

 
InteriorDesignNinja 2009-05-31 01:36:36 PM  
Savage Savage savages savage British Home Secretary savaging savage Savage.

 
ilambiquated 2009-05-31 01:39:22 PM  
MICHAEL SAVAGE:"Liberalism is, in essence, the HIV virus, and it weakens the defense cells of a nation. What are the defense cells of a nation? Well, the church. They've attacked particularly the Catholic Church for 30 straight years. The police, attacked for the last 50 straight years by the ACLU viruses. And the military, attacked for the last 50 years by the Barbara Boxer viruses on our planet."

---------

MICHAEL SAVAGE: "So, you're one of the sodomites. Are you a sodomite?"

CALLER: "Yes, I am."

MICHAEL SAVAGE: "Oh, you're one of the sodomites. You should only get AIDS and die, you pig. How's that? Why don't you see if you can sue me, you pig. You got nothing better than to put me down, you piece of garbage. You have got nothing to do today, go eat a sausage and choke on it. Get trichinosis."

---------

MICHAEL SAVAGE: "I'll tell you what autism is. In 99 percent of the cases, it's a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out. That's what autism is. What do you mean they scream and they're silent? They don't have a father around to tell them, 'Don't act like a moron. You'll get nowhere in life. Stop acting like a putz. Straighten up. Act like a man. Don't sit there crying and screaming, idiot.'"


---------

MICHAEL SAVAGE: "America is being overrun by an invasion force from Mexico that'll soon take over the country[...]you psychotic liberals don't even know you're digging your own grave and throwing lime in there. All that's missing is the worm from the tequila bottle to go with it."


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Jacqui Smith He's "likely to cause inter-community tension or even violence".

MICHAEL SAVAGE: "WAAAAAH!"

---------


She right of course. He makes money creating tension and inciting violence.

 
Somacandra [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 01:39:51 PM  
Michael Savage is NOT a Conservative. That is nothing more than an insult to Conservatives.

The man is a brutal reactionary nationalist just on the safe side of fascism. He's somewhere near David Duke.

He has no intellectual heritage from or contribution to Conservatism.

 
citizen905 2009-05-31 01:41:17 PM  
Fair is fair. We're banning all kinds of people from entering the United States for having political opinions the government doesn't like. And God help you if you have the same name as someone on the "do not fly" list.

 
moothemagiccow 2009-05-31 01:43:01 PM  
Michael Weiner

 
jso2897 2009-05-31 01:43:53 PM  
Nemo's Brother: Tatsuma: I've never listened to his show, I don't know much about him but I pretty much hope he wins, this smells of a political hit.

To put him next to terrorists or those who form terrorists through ideology is ridiculous.

This.


Tough titty. Their country, their rules.

 
Tatsuma [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 01:48:42 PM  
DarnoKonrad: Tatsuma is a fan.

I have absolutely never heard the man before. I think I read half an article he wrote about 3 or 4 years ago on Fark.

A fan? Give me an effin break

 
Cinaed 2009-05-31 01:49:01 PM  
Well, if the guy didn't spout hateful close minded bigotry, the Brits wouldn't have put him on the spot.

Although not sure how trying to sue the UK Gov't will do anything, since the classification, if I recall, is about inciting, and not about actually participating, terrorism and hate.

But how others besides Savage did not make the cut... I suspect an oversight on Jacqui Smith's part.

 
Shaggy_C 2009-05-31 01:50:11 PM  
'Terrorist' has become a joke in this day and age. Get over it, Savage.

 
ilambiquated 2009-05-31 01:53:51 PM  
HotWingConspiracy: terrorism

You mean this (new window)?

 
Shpubba1 2009-05-31 01:54:25 PM  
He's not worth a bucket of warm piss.

 
ilambiquated 2009-05-31 01:55:41 PM  
Remember Michael Savage is Jewish, so you know Tatsuma is a fan. He even thinks Amy Winehouse is hot.

 
Bad_Seed 2009-05-31 01:56:28 PM  
fark him. They didn't let him in for the same reason they didn't let Fred Phelps in. They wanted to come to the UK to stir up shiat for their own self-serving purposes and when they're done somebody has to clean up after them and take care of the butthurt they cause.

No country has any obligation of let a foreign national in, they can deny entry to anyone for any reason. There's no benefit to letting professional trolls in.

 
FarkFish 2009-05-31 01:58:34 PM  
he's a entertainer...no different than Rush, jon stewart, terrance and phillip, howard stern, olberman, oriely, george clooney,
al franken.


the only difference is .......his rant leans to the right.

shame on him.

 
CanisNoir [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 01:59:51 PM  
The Brits were wrong for banning him, and while I've never listened to his show, I have to wonder, the 3rd most popular radio show in the US? I mean Limbaugh I understand, he's entertaining, but Hannity is a Putz Limbaugh Wannabe (I hate the whole "You're a great american" schtick) and this guy comes in 3rd? Hell at least Levine has knowledge on his side.

/I do find Levine entertaining, it must be his voice when he goes full rant, makes me laugh some.

 
PizzaJedi81 2009-05-31 02:03:55 PM  
Generation_D: They'd had enough of his noise, and they took action.

Bravo.

He's not a British citizen, and their rules say they can ban whomever they want.

I guess Wiener isn't used to being stomped by a woman without paying for the privelege. Its gotta hurt.


You missed part of your sentence. Don't worry, I got it in for you.

 
Animatronik 2009-05-31 02:04:33 PM  
ilambiquated: MICHAEL SAVAGE:"Liberalism is, in essence, the HIV virus, and it weakens the defense cells of a nation. What are the defense cells of a nation? Well, the church. They've attacked particularly the Catholic Church for 30 straight years. The police, attacked for the last 50 straight years by the ACLU viruses. And the military, attacked for the last 50 years by the Barbara Boxer viruses on our planet."

Jacqui Smith He's "likely to cause inter-community tension or even violence".

MICHAEL SAVAGE: "WAAAAAH!"

---------


She right of course. He makes money creating tension and inciting violence.


What some of you spineless liberal islamofascist marxist retards need to understand is...

I don't think much of Savage, but people shouldn't be banned from traveling to a country because they exercised their right to obnoxious free speech. And your vague definition of "inciting violence", based on the quotes you chose, is no good. Inciting violence means you specifically instructed people to harm someone or a group of someones. Find a quote where he does that.


This says volumes about the British government and very little about Savage. It says that Britain is being run by dictatorial pantywaists. Is this surprising in 2009?

 
Barricaded Gunman 2009-05-31 02:05:31 PM  
FarkFish: he's a entertainer...no different than Rush, jon stewart, terrance and phillip, howard stern, olberman, oriely, george clooney, al franken. the only difference is .......his rant leans to the right. shame on him.

If you actually believe your limp-wristed, Rovian equivocation, then shame on you.

 
ilambiquated 2009-05-31 02:10:01 PM  
Animatronik: Inciting violence means you specifically instructed people to harm someone or a group of someones.

No it doesn't. Incite is more or less a synonym of "instigate" or "foment". It doesn't mean "specifically instruct" at all.

 
Crakerasscracker [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 02:13:11 PM  
Wait, he's been banned from paying inflated airline fees to travel to a nation with bland food and horrible Socialized medical care, and he's complaining? WTF is wrong with these Right-wingers?

 
HotWingConspiracy [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 02:15:58 PM  
ilambiquated: HotWingConspiracy: terrorism

You mean this (new window)?


Yup.

 
Exodus2001 2009-05-31 02:21:48 PM  
Somacandra: Michael Savage is NOT a Conservative. That is nothing more than an insult to Conservatives.

The man is a brutal reactionary nationalist just on the safe side of fascism. He's somewhere near David Duke.

He has no intellectual heritage from or contribution to Conservatism.


Do you conservatives know why you are directly linked to these people? Because these folks like Rush Limbal, Shawn Hannity, Michael Savage, Fox News, George Bush, etc... have coined themselves "Conservatives" and you consummated your ideology by going out and voting for Bush and the GOP for the past 15 years.

If anybody destroyed the term "Conservative" is was the people that kept putting the GOP in power.

You made your bed, now lay in it.

 
yelmrog 2009-05-31 02:25:33 PM  
Exodus2001: Somacandra: Michael Savage is NOT a Conservative. That is nothing more than an insult to Conservatives.

The man is a brutal reactionary nationalist just on the safe side of fascism. He's somewhere near David Duke.

He has no intellectual heritage from or contribution to Conservatism.

Do you conservatives know why you are directly linked to these people? Because these folks like Rush Limbal, Shawn Hannity, Michael Savage, Fox News, George Bush, etc... have coined themselves "Conservatives" and you consummated your ideology by going out and voting for Bush and the GOP for the past 15 years.

If anybody destroyed the term "Conservative" is was the people that kept putting the GOP in power.

You made your bed, now lay in it.


I LoL'ed at the idea of Somacandra spewing right-wing talking points.

 
Mordant [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 02:26:02 PM  
Exodus2001: Somacandra: Michael Savage is NOT a Conservative. That is nothing more than an insult to Conservatives.

The man is a brutal reactionary nationalist just on the safe side of fascism. He's somewhere near David Duke.

He has no intellectual heritage from or contribution to Conservatism.

Do you conservatives know why you are directly linked to these people? Because these folks like Rush Limbal, Shawn Hannity, Michael Savage, Fox News, George Bush, etc... have coined themselves "Conservatives" and you consummated your ideology by going out and voting for Bush and the GOP for the past 15 years.

If anybody destroyed the term "Conservative" is was the people that kept putting the GOP in power.

You made your bed, now lay in it.


Bingo, and every day the Freepers and the other "conservative" trolls like the ones we have here just make it worse. Keep digging, stooges, you'll get out of that hole if you try really hard.

 
3_Butt_Cheeks 2009-05-31 02:27:19 PM  
BladBoy: Mordant: You don't call someone a terrorist. The proper approach is to frame it as a question... "What if Savage is a terrorist who rapes old ladies ? I'm just asking...".

See, that way you didn't say anything bad, you just helped engage in healthy public debate about a hypothetical.

Some people have said that Michael Savage is a terrorist that rapes underage goats.

I prefer the Fox News "some people" trick, then it isn't you that is saying anything, just some dastardly people.


Wow, not even 10 posts into the thread, and a "Fox News" wingnut speaks.

Goes onto the list of "You know it will be a good thread when......"

 
emilyek_1 2009-05-31 02:29:25 PM  
Tatsuma: I've never listened to his show, I don't know much about him but I pretty much hope he wins, this smells of a political hit.

To put him next to terrorists or those who form terrorists through ideology is ridiculous.


Maybe if Savage had gone with anti-semite his lawsuit might have more legs.

 
Exodus2001 2009-05-31 02:30:51 PM  
Animatronik: ilambiquated: MICHAEL SAVAGE:"Liberalism is, in essence, the HIV virus, and it weakens the defense cells of a nation. What are the defense cells of a nation? Well, the church. They've attacked particularly the Catholic Church for 30 straight years. The police, attacked for the last 50 straight years by the ACLU viruses. And the military, attacked for the last 50 years by the Barbara Boxer viruses on our planet."

Jacqui Smith He's "likely to cause inter-community tension or even violence".

MICHAEL SAVAGE: "WAAAAAH!"

---------


She right of course. He makes money creating tension and inciting violence.

What some of you spineless liberal islamofascist marxist retards need to understand is...

I don't think much of Savage, but people shouldn't be banned from traveling to a country because they exercised their right to obnoxious free speech. And your vague definition of "inciting violence", based on the quotes you chose, is no good. Inciting violence means you specifically instructed people to harm someone or a group of someones. Find a quote where he does that.


This says volumes about the British government and very little about Savage. It says that Britain is being run by dictatorial pantywaists. Is this surprising in 2009?


Savage: "Intelligent people, wealthy people ... are very depressed by the weakness that America is showing to these psychotics in the Muslim world. They say, 'Oh, there's a billion of them.' I said, 'So, kill 100 million of them, then there'd be 900 million of them.' I mean ... would you rather us die than them?"

I see your point, he not calling for violence at all.

Link (new window)

You Republicans are ridiculous. Don't try the "I'm an Independent" crap, nobody is buying that line anymore.

 
RanDomino 2009-05-31 02:30:51 PM  
Good. Words are only "speech" if they consist of honest content, not divisive, manipulative lies.

 
Anhydrous Dihydrogen Monoxide 2009-05-31 02:31:21 PM  
jso2897: Tough titty. Their country, their rules.

Their rules also say you can sue for libel. I'm sure you support Savage's lawsuit accordingly.

 
ubermensch 2009-05-31 02:39:11 PM  
Did anyone hear Savage when he was on Talk of the Nation a month or two ago when this story came out? The host, Ira, went over the story, talked a bit to Savage, then took a caller. The caller basically agreed with the woman, said that Savage is a bigot etc. Savage told Ira that he didn't have time to be blindsided by callers and if it was going to have to continue to listen to callers, he'd have to hang up. Ira basically said, "Well, alright, good bye then" and hung up on him, since Talk of the Nation is almost ALL calls.

Michael Douchbag is more like it

 
RadicalMiddle [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-05-31 02:42:49 PM  
FarkFish: he's a entertainer...no different than Rush, jon stewart, terrance and phillip, howard stern, olberman, oriely, george clooney,
al franken.


the only difference is .......his rant leans to the right.

shame on him.


It's easy to dismiss him as an entertainer, but some folks take him very seriously.

 
opiumpoopy 2009-05-31 02:44:44 PM  
FarkinNortherner: The sole criterion is that visits by the people concerned are 'not in the public interest'.

I have a problem with the Government deciding who's "not in the public interest". Let the courts make the judgement on some objective critera.

Look at all the publicity Geert Wilders got by being banned. Who'd have noticed him if he'd quietly come, given a speech to some nutters, and gone home again?

 
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