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(AJC) Strange School offers course in homelessness, said to be preparation for liberal arts degrees   (ajc.com) divider line 37
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clueyee [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 11:14:51 AM  
Out of season, but it could be for that or This career (SFW but annoying as hell)

 
Sue Dunham 2009-05-31 01:29:34 PM  
Does this mean it'll be the engineering students asking if you want fries with that?

 
CruJones 2009-05-31 01:30:04 PM  
Guess who has a liberal arts degree (philosophy) and a great, well paying job in IT sales even in this economy?

I learned long ago you are vastly more important than your degree.

 
cranched 2009-05-31 01:31:35 PM  
Why pay a school to learn how to be homeless?

 
Swampthing in Korea 2009-05-31 01:32:16 PM  
Liberal Arts are for people who want to become professors and teach Liberal Arts.

It's a self-perpetuaing, self-contained wank circle.

 
KNW 2009-05-31 01:32:49 PM  
Studio Art major makin' $78k/yr; suck it, eh.

 
Swampthing in Korea 2009-05-31 01:33:37 PM  
CruJones: Guess who has a liberal arts degree (philosophy) and a great, well paying job in IT sales even in this economy?

I learned long ago you are vastly more important than your degree.


CzarAngelus?

 
lenfromak 2009-05-31 01:34:47 PM  
I'd guess that the real bums can raise more than 5 bucks a day. But, if it gives the kids any more stimulus to find real jobs when they grow up, it's worth the time spent.

 
AR55 2009-05-31 01:39:33 PM  
CruJones: Guess who has a liberal arts degree (philosophy) and a great, well paying job in IT sales even in this economy?

I learned long ago you are vastly more important than your degree.


Imagine how much more you could be making if you majored in Computer Science!

 
thelordofcheese 2009-05-31 01:41:58 PM  
AR55: CruJones: Guess who has a liberal arts degree (philosophy) and a great, well paying job in IT sales even in this economy?

I learned long ago you are vastly more important than your degree.

Imagine how much more you could be making if you majored in Computer Science!


Unemployed after calling out the poor quality of work done by the department supervisors... after I was hired to start their quality assurances section.

/unemployment only pays $100 less a week, though

 
Marian 2009-05-31 01:45:02 PM  
Shocked that my alma mater didn't come up with it.

/Oglethorpe alumna
//unemployed

 
thelordofcheese 2009-05-31 01:46:32 PM  
darrent83: Discarded pizza boxes are an inexpensive source of cheese.

And one time, a piece of pepperoni!

 
SmallFurryThingInACaveGrooving 2009-05-31 01:53:32 PM  
They talk about what was ahead and wait to hear from Protip Biswas, executive director of United Way Atlanta's Regional Commission on Homelessness, who would thank them "for being on this journey."

Yet more Protip:

:(

 
MemoryInMotion 2009-05-31 01:55:20 PM  
Actually, the "Liberal Arts" stereotype is passe.

I found a VistaPrint freebie biz card for a Cisco Engineer on a gas pump earlier this week.

 
MemoryInMotion 2009-05-31 01:57:47 PM  
... and a second thought... a laid off corporate-type I met is making a killing selling soap, candles and incense.

So much for that MBA.

 
jgm1976 2009-05-31 02:02:11 PM  
"School offers course of pointlessness..."

 
wsommerv 2009-05-31 02:18:56 PM  
Swampthing in Korea: Liberal Arts are for people who want to become professors and teach Liberal Arts.

It's a self-perpetuaing, self-contained wank circle.


Well, yeah. But that was the point of the liberal arts. Not to prepare you for a job, but propagating knowledge for it's own sake. Society has come to this weird place, where if you're learning something, it has to be for some external reason. A BA shouldn't prepare you for the work place, it should prepare you to be a person who knows a little bit more about your major. And that's not necessarily a bad thing.

How many entry level jobs are advertised as requiring a BAnything, without having anything to do with the job. It's getting a bit ridiculous.

 
FarkAssMaximus 2009-05-31 02:26:04 PM  
I got an engineering degree and decided to become an artist. Go figure. I guess I like to do things backwards. Mortgage is paid off and me and wifey take vacations whenever we want. I typically don't know what day of the week it is unless I see it on fark.

 
Obnox [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-05-31 02:27:32 PM  
This is not a good enough approximation of homelessness. They know there will be food, and they have a place to sleep. True homelessness is not having either of those and, while the sun goes down and your belly is gnawing away at itself, wondering where the hell you're going to find them. A waking nightmare.

 
Kierkegaard's Pseudonym 2009-05-31 02:40:24 PM  
Obnox: This is not a good enough approximation of homelessness.

They need to be addicted to drugs, dying of hepatitis, and be untreated for schizophrenia also.

 
kutsuke 2009-05-31 03:07:55 PM  
The prerequisite for the new course is the ever popular Underwater Basket Weaving.

 
GreySpectre [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 03:07:59 PM  
I think this is a fairly good program to motivate people to do well in school.

Liberal arts majors can still be successful and find jobs. That being said, when I graduated in May the percent of people coming out of school with a job in my major (Electrical Engineering) was significantly better than many other majors. Those of you who have been working a couple years have the advantage of your personal skills and personality matter more than your degree. The people who are graduating this year though in many liberal arts majors are having a rough time finding jobs.

//Happy to graduate and have a job with decent pay

 
Quick Sick Nick 2009-05-31 03:25:55 PM  
I went to this school. The only people who signed up for this class were the outdoors-y hippy type anyway, but then again, that's the whole school.

 
Wrong_Intentions 2009-05-31 03:28:33 PM  
Can I substitute this for math? It seems as useful as learn Mayan and non-base 10 numbers (not a software person).

 
Polly Styrene 2009-05-31 04:19:09 PM  
Ah, Paideia! I should have known....

 
ecmoRandomNumbers [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 04:53:13 PM  
Swampthing in Korea: Liberal Arts are for people who want to become professors and teach Liberal Arts.

It's a self-perpetuaing, self-contained wank circle.


Yet, we're still employed.

 
Dalar [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 05:07:24 PM  
ecmoRandomNumbers: Swampthing in Korea: Liberal Arts are for people who want to become professors and teach Liberal Arts.

It's a self-perpetuaing, self-contained wank circle.

Yet, we're still employed.


Ditto. And not as a professor. Nearly every industry will hire a Liberal Arts grad, as they tend to be the most creative, flexible, and not so stuck to traditional ways of thinking. They also tend more often to start their own business, and don't need employment.

I seriously know few Liberal Arts grads who need work right now. Its the engineers and finance grads who are hurting at the moment.

 
JQPublic [TotalFark] 2009-05-31 05:44:21 PM  
Swampthing in Korea: Liberal Arts are for people who want to become professors and teach Liberal Arts.

It's a self-perpetuaing, self-contained wank circle.


A vortex of suck.

 
dogdave 2009-05-31 05:46:36 PM  
I agree with Obnox, and having spent 20+ years living on the streets, I can say with some authority that a minimum of 6 months is what it takes to get a true feel for what homelessness is like.
And for those who are wondering, no, I am not homeless any more,(have not been for 2 years now) and I have a decent place, and a fair job.

 
Sygonus 2009-05-31 09:26:43 PM  
So question... what do farkers think is a good degree?

Every degree-related thread contains people bashing pretty much every major (though it seems that liberal arts and/or MBAs are favourite targets). So what do most people consider solid? Engineering?

 
Wrong_Intentions 2009-05-31 09:28:18 PM  
Sygonus: So question... what do farkers think is a good degree?

Every degree-related thread contains people bashing pretty much every major (though it seems that liberal arts and/or MBAs are favourite targets). So what do most people consider solid? Engineering?


Well, I'm really hoping Criminal Justice is, or I'm farked. (Maybe I'll fall back on my Sociology minor!)

 
olddinosaur 2009-05-31 09:41:37 PM  
The Most Commonly Asked Question By Liberal Arts Ph.D. Graduates:

"---Duh, you want fries with that?"

\\\ thread over.

 
casual_sex 2009-05-31 10:05:33 PM  
Next to Garfield and Family Circus, there's nothing funnier then a good "would you like fries with that" liberal arts crack. It never gets old!

 
PawisBetlog 2009-05-31 10:47:58 PM  
CruJones: Guess who has a liberal arts degree (philosophyhistory) and a great, well paying job in IT sales even in this economy?

I learned long ago you are vastly more important than your degree.


ME!

Agree on the second part too, I decided to get a degree in something I was interested in, then find a career I was interested in. Both have worked well so far.

 
mdj817 2009-05-31 11:47:51 PM  
Believe it or not, I actually go to this school!

 
Rambino 2009-06-01 12:19:15 AM  
Sygonus: So question... what do farkers think is a good degree?

Every degree-related thread contains people bashing pretty much every major (though it seems that liberal arts and/or MBAs are favourite targets). So what do most people consider solid? Engineering?


Fark is full of engineers (or at least computer people who think that a degree in "computer engineering" makes them an actual engineer), and engineers are the most arrogant people on the planet.

Engineers also like to talk about how the average salaries for engineers are higher than for most other fields of study - which is funny, because us liberal arts types don't like to settle for "average," and we apparantly also have a better understanding of measures of central tendency and variance than the engineers.

Good luck ever cracking 200k on your engineering job.

Of course, you might make some real money with your engineering degree if you went into management, started a company, or did any of those other things that a study of liberal arts would prepare you for.

An engineering degree (or nursing degree, or electrician's license) will help you get a job, but is useless outside of your narrow field. A philosophy degree won't get you a job, but will make you better at whatever job you get on your own.

 
arcas 2009-06-01 12:10:05 PM  
Engineers also like to talk about how the average salaries for engineers are higher than for most other fields of study - which is funny, because us liberal arts types don't like to settle for "average," and we apparantly also have a better understanding of measures of central tendency and variance than the engineers.

Good luck ever cracking 200k on your engineering job.


That same logic can be used to argue that casino gambling is a better long-term investment strategy than, say, purchasing dividend-generating equities.

"Good luck ever earning 200k in a day by investing in stocks..."

In almost every profession, there are individuals who most folks will agree have excelled financially but to use their achievements when comparing the likely earnings potential of one degree/profession/background to another is complete folly.

An engineering degree (or nursing degree, or electrician's license) will help you get a job, but is useless outside of your narrow field. A philosophy degree won't get you a job, but will make you better at whatever job you get on your own.

See, there's the rub. There's nothing wrong with knowledge for the sake of knowledge. But at some point, most people will want to graduate from the single-bedroom-apartment-ramen-noodle lifestyle. So the question comes down to which fields offer the best chances of that.

 
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