There ARE some non-whackjob denominations still in the Southern Baptist Convention. A good friend of mine in that church said the congregation voted to remain in the SBC because they feel they can work from the inside.

That's all great advice for anyone in a position of dealing with the media.

UNC_Samurai: There ARE some non-whackjob denominations still in the Southern Baptist Convention. A good friend of mine in that church said the congregation voted to remain in the SBC because they feel they can work from the inside.

Tail wagging the dog? They better be a damn big tail, because the SBC is a damn big dog.

GAT_00: Tail wagging the dog? They better be a damn big tail, because the SBC is a damn big dog.

I wouldn't be surprised if they don't give up sooner or later. They've taken this line for about a decade, and the more moderate elements fragment away. I give them credit for still trying, though.

FTA: "What if we think reporters are out to get us?

Phillips: Generally speaking, reporters are out to get the story. There are clear cases of bias in the media, but even the most slanted reporters almost always give the other side a chance to speak. Keep in mind the difference between a news story, analysis and commentary."

I... damn. That would not have been the answer I'd've predicted.

Impressive.

"we preach the word of god and the teachings of Jesus.

So here is how to spin it to the media"

Sorry, feeling a little cynical today.

This is just good advice, period.

Baptists aren't exactly Fundies

For every one who follows this advice, there are two more who will ignore it completely.

Just the way Jesus wanted.

SuperDuper28: Baptists aren't exactly Fundies

You clearly don't live in the south.

Costanza priniciple:

Say the exact opposite of the first thing that comes into your head.

Works with political pressers.

I grew up in the Southern Baptist Church. My father was in the military, so we moved all over the world my entire childhood. When we moved into a new area, one of the first things we did was look for a new church, which of course required visiting several. The Southern Baptists as a denomination are very different from other religions in the way they are organized. Each church pretty much governs itself. You'll find everything from extremely fundamental, hell-fire-and brimstone ,screaming in the pulpit preaching to very moderate and tolerant types of churches. It's actually very strange. You can't really generalize when it comes to Southern Baptists.

And a "split" between the moderates and the fundies has been talked about for as long as I can remember.

SuperDuper28: Baptists aren't exactly Fundies

Baptists are the Fundies

Saved it for myself.

If I ever have to deal with the media in any leadership position.
But especially since I just started my own business again.

Hopefully someday I'll be in a position of influence for them to desire to talk to me
and not for another more absurd reason or a fiasco.

/I prefer to prevent those...I don't know why.

They forgot "if the female reporter is hot, try to not 'handle thy snake' in front of her"

FTA: Keep in mind the difference between a news story, analysis and commentary.

Hear hear!

Can I get that on a t-shirt?

rogue49: Saved it for myself.

If I ever have to deal with the media in any leadership position.
But especially since I just started my own business again.

Remember to speak up... Your voice can sound muffled from under your coat as they lead you to the police car.

Once I saw this guy on a bridge about to jump. I said, "Don't do it!" He said, "Nobody loves me." I said, "God loves you. Do you believe in God?"

He said, "Yes." I said, "Are you a Christian or a Jew?" He said, "A Christian." I said, "Me, too! Protestant or Catholic?" He said, "Protestant." I said, "Me, too! What franchise?" He said, "Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist?" He said, "Northern Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist or Northern Liberal Baptist?"

He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region, or Northern Conservative Baptist Eastern Region?" He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region." I said, "Me, too!"

Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?" He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912." I said, "Die, heretic!" And I pushed him over.

/Emo Phillips
//DRTFA

The Hindus do not recognize Jehova as the one true god.
The Jews do not recognize Jebus as the messiah.
And the Baptists do not recognize each other in the liquor store on Friday night.


Q:Why do Baptists only have sex in the missionary position?

A:Anything else and god might think they were dancing.


/all week, try the veal

in my town, we have a liquor store with a drive through (it is texas after all).

in any case, everyone in my town calls it the baptist window, so that if their preacher sees them they can speed off.

Skerrvy: Once I saw this guy on a bridge about to jump. I said, "Don't do it!" He said, "Nobody loves me." I said, "God loves you. Do you believe in God?"

He said, "Yes." I said, "Are you a Christian or a Jew?" He said, "A Christian." I said, "Me, too! Protestant or Catholic?" He said, "Protestant." I said, "Me, too! What franchise?" He said, "Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist?" He said, "Northern Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist or Northern Liberal Baptist?"

He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region, or Northern Conservative Baptist Eastern Region?" He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region." I said, "Me, too!"

Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?" He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912." I said, "Die, heretic!" And I pushed him over.

/Emo Phillips
//DRTFA



Welcome to my favs, sir.

FTFA: Who decides what news is?

Phillips: The news media. We can influence the news-suggest angles, pitch stories and help shape the reporting of events, but ultimately news directors and editors decide what gets played. However, the emergence of social media is diminishing the control of news and information once held by newspapers, radio and TV stations. In many ways, this is a positive development, but not without its risks since the social media are largely unedited.

Kind of off topic here, but that's kinda scary to me. Newspapers and television stations are owned and controlled by relatively few companies, and you have so many voices screaming on the internet it's almost impossible to decide who to listen to. How the hell are we supposed to know what's true and what isn't, what's biased and what's objective? Serious question here.

Is it just me or is the link farked?

TFA, while informative, read like something I was assigned my freshman year, in CMMA100, Intro to News Writing.

Realistically, these are good guidelines for anyone in ANY line of work who is charged with representing a company. You could be giving rainbows and fairydust to kids with cancer, and a good, or diligent journalist can make your organization look awful if you don't interview well.

/I'm looking at you, police forces around the nation.

fusillade762: Is it just me or is the link farked?

No, the link isn't farked. We are farked, as a society, with all this grown up people with imaginary friends like the ones in TFA

Deacon Blue: FTFA: Who decides what news is?

Phillips: The news media. We can influence the news-suggest angles, pitch stories and help shape the reporting of events, but ultimately news directors and editors decide what gets played. However, the emergence of social media is diminishing the control of news and information once held by newspapers, radio and TV stations. In many ways, this is a positive development, but not without its risks since the social media are largely unedited.

Kind of off topic here, but that's kinda scary to me. Newspapers and television stations are owned and controlled by relatively few companies, and you have so many voices screaming on the internet it's almost impossible to decide who to listen to. How the hell are we supposed to know what's true and what isn't, what's biased and what's objective? Serious question here.

It IS scary. This is one of the reasons I can understand the justified frustration the general educated public has with the MSM complex. My solution: if there's an issue you care about, or an item you read about in a news story, do your own research about the topic. Check facts from a variety of sources, see if similar stories have been run about the same topic, and so forth. Yes, this is a very time consuming process, but you'll come away from your efforts with a much better (and likely unbiased) understanding of the situation as a whole. I see doing anything else as a shortcut that will eventually lead you to the same conclusion as the sources you were trying to get away from.

almafuerte: fusillade762: Is it just me or is the link farked?

No, the link isn't farked. We are farked, as a society, with all this grown up people with imaginary friends no love of Jesus like the ones in TFA

Gee, it's amazing that if I change the subject of your wrath you sound exactly like what you condemn.

jekxrb: FTA: "What if we think reporters are out to get us?

Phillips: Generally speaking, reporters are out to get the story. There are clear cases of bias in the media, but even the most slanted reporters almost always give the other side a chance to speak. Keep in mind the difference between a news story, analysis and commentary."

I... damn. That would not have been the answer I'd've predicted.

Impressive.


Sounds like a Scientologist.
They also have the mindset that "Everyone is out to get them." That has become a self-enforced prophecy as their paranoid humanity-destroying actions have so antagonized everyone around them and anyone critical of them, that they've enforced the necessary response by humanity to destroy the Scientologists.

That article was intelligent, thoughtful, reasonable, and useful. This can only mean one thing...

Baptists have started outsourcing media relations to the Jews.

This is actually pretty common sense advice for dealing with reporters in general, regardless of what you're being interviewed about.

I'm going to guess this site is affiliated with one of the more sane branches of the church, as if this were posted anywhere BUT a Baptist site, I think pretty much everyone would agree it's good advice (a bit obvious perhaps, but otherwise fine).

Nothing Sweeter Than Redneck Tears pic


The typical xtian

Electriclectic: almafuerte: fusillade762: Is it just me or is the link farked?

No, the link isn't farked. We are farked, as a society, with all this grown up people with imaginary friends no love of Jesus like the ones in TFA

Gee, it's amazing that if I change the subject of your wrath you sound exactly like what you condemn.

Except he is 100% right and the imaginary friend side is 100% wrong. There is that tiny detail.

Britney Spear's Speculum: Nothing Sweeter Than Redneck Tears pic


The typical xtian

And the archetypical Christian Democratic Socialist leader?

Electriclectic: almafuerte: fusillade762: Is it just me or is the link farked?

No, the link isn't farked. We are farked, as a society, with all this grown up people with imaginary friends no love of Jesus like the ones in TFA

Gee, it's amazing that if I change the subject of your wrath you sound exactly like what you condemn.

This^{^}4

Pro tip: Cover up the murals of the rapture before letting the reporter in your church.

Even if you don't like some reporters, remember never to pick a fight with people who buy paper by the ton and ink by the barrel.

Try to keep this advice away from the far-far left and right. Otherwise, nothing will ever get done. The last thing we need is for Beck or Limbaugh to start being cordial to the opposite side media.

jekxrb: FTA: "What if we think reporters are out to get us?

Phillips: Generally speaking, reporters are out to get the story. There are clear cases of bias in the media, but even the most slanted reporters almost always give the other side a chance to speak. Keep in mind the difference between a news story, analysis and commentary."

I... damn. That would not have been the answer I'd've predicted.

Impressive.

Came here to say this. That is some strangely even-keeled, non-whaargarble right there. Most impressive.

Hollerin Charlie: Britney Spear's Speculum: Nothing Sweeter Than Redneck Tears pic


The typical xtian

And the archetypical Christian Democratic Socialist leader?

he was nsdap which now is the npd (far-right wing).

the csd is merkel's centrist party.

Nothing Sweeter Than Redneck Tears: Hollerin Charlie: Britney Spear's Speculum: Nothing Sweeter Than Redneck Tears pic


The typical xtian

And the archetypical Christian Democratic Socialist leader?

he was nsdap which now is the npd (far-right wing).

the csd is merkel's centrist party.



What country is that in?
Those bastards who bombed us at Pearl Harbor?

/"college"

Hollerin Charlie: Nothing Sweeter Than Redneck Tears: Hollerin Charlie: Britney Spear's Speculum: Nothing Sweeter Than Redneck Tears pic


The typical xtian

And the archetypical Christian Democratic Socialist leader?

he was nsdap which now is the npd (far-right wing).

the csd is merkel's centrist party.



What country is that in?
Those bastards who bombed us at Pearl Harbor?

/"college"

Britney Spear's Speculum: Nothing Sweeter Than Redneck Tears pic


The typical xtian

you've not seen him around much, have you if anything, he's the type of creature that lives under a bridge terrorizing the smaller goats as they cross

loonatic112358: Britney Spear's Speculum: Nothing Sweeter Than Redneck Tears pic


The typical xtian

you've not seen him around much, have you if anything, he's the type of creature that lives under a bridge terrorizing the smaller goats as they cross

your mom wouldnt take the job.

Nothing Sweeter Than Redneck Tears: your mom wouldnt take the job.

no, she's much to biatchy for it, she'd have been banned already.

man up boy, if you're going to get me to bite, get better bait.

/bout the only thing you can't call me is a bastard, they were married. The only thing you could, wouldn't occur to you.

loonatic112358:

/bout the only thing you can't call me is a bastard, they were married. The only thing you could, wouldn't occur to you.

they may have been married, but they werent your real parents, anyway

Nothing Sweeter Than Redneck Tears: loonatic112358:

/bout the only thing you can't call me is a bastard, they were married. The only thing you could, wouldn't occur to you.

they may have been married, but they werent your real parents, anyway

I always knew a yuppie from colorado would never hook up with a redneck from texas

thanks for clearing that up

loonatic112358: Nothing Sweeter Than Redneck Tears: loonatic112358:

/bout the only thing you can't call me is a bastard, they were married. The only thing you could, wouldn't occur to you.

they may have been married, but they werent your real parents, anyway

I always knew a yuppie from colorado would never hook up with a redneck from texas

thanks for clearing that up

theyre not even compatible species

Nothing Sweeter Than Redneck Tears: loonatic112358: Nothing Sweeter Than Redneck Tears: loonatic112358:

/bout the only thing you can't call me is a bastard, they were married. The only thing you could, wouldn't occur to you.

they may have been married, but they werent your real parents, anyway

I always knew a yuppie from colorado would never hook up with a redneck from texas

thanks for clearing that up

theyre not even compatible species

explains my stubbornmulish streak then

Damn. Song stuck in my head, now...



Can I get a witness
Can I get a witness
Can I get a witness
Can I get a witness
Can I get a witness
Can I get a witness
I'm talkin' talkin' 'bout my baby
She's some kinda wonderful...

Nothing Sweeter Than Redneck Tears: Typical Atheist



That's cute, did you make that yourself ? no help from Mommy ?