Carbohydrate metabolism is the central energy-generating metabolic pathway for most life, including you. Eat your damn carbs and get your fat ass to the gym.

And cranky.

Meh, we eat too damn many carbs in our society anyway. Be active, eat enough protein and vegetables, and you'll find you don't have much room for carbs left over.

Bek: Meh, we eat too damn many carbs in our society anyway. Be active, eat enough protein and vegetables, and you'll find you don't have much room for carbs left over.

You do know that some vegetables and fruits have considerable amounts of carbs, right? "Carb" doesn't just refer to bread and pasta, yknow.

Weight Watchers. I lost 25% of my body weight in 2003 and have kept it off.

Mentat: Carbohydrate metabolism is the central energy-generating metabolic pathway for most life, including you. Eat your damn carbs and get your fat ass to the gym.

But, then how can you get the body to start breaking down all of that heavy muscle protein so they can really lose weight? Sure, it may make more toxins (like ammonia) and yield much less ATP and therefore energy, but, hey, that just means, you have to use more and will lose more weight. amirite?

/side-effects may include various muscle failure including heart failure, but at least you won't be heavy when it happens
//srsly, ppl, stop worrying about weight and worry about fitness

Bek: Meh, we eat too damn many carbs in our society anyway. Be active, eat enough protein and vegetables, and you'll find you don't have much room for carbs left over.

Spoken by someone who can't tell the difference between a donut and a yam.

cheshirecatsmileyface: You do know that some vegetables and fruits have considerable amounts of carbs, right? "Carb" doesn't just refer to bread and pasta, yknow.

Colloquially, carbs (especially in a diet context of being reduced) refer to bread/pastas and the like. I'm sorry you struggled with the interpretation.

quickdraw: Spoken by someone who can't tell the difference between a donut and a yam.

Ok, now it's my turn to struggle with the meaning of a post.

Exercise doesn't have quite the effect it could have if you don't put the fork down. (pops like a bloated carcass)

Starting out on a low-carb diet results in low blood sugar until your body adjusts. I'm not surprised that research trial showed poorer mental functioning. I'd like to see it repeated comparing mental ability prior to going on a diet with after being on the diet for two months or longer.

I started to go no-carb, but I forgot to keep to it...

Weight Watchers worked well for me.

The study's conclusions are almost certainly correct, but under no circumstances should it have been released to the press or made it through peer review. 19 subjects with that many possible confounding variables is horrible experimental design. Based on her contribution in the form of this "article," it's clear that Margaret Furtado is a hack, an irresponsible journalist, and in this instance failing in her responsibilities as a doctor to provide accurate information to people who rely on her training, which she advertises prominently.

Extremely low-carb does work, ask any body builder. The idea, though, is to stay out of ketosis, not to nose dive right into it.

Knock the bread of that biatch...

Exercise doesn't have quite the effect it could have if you don't put the fork down.

Tell that to the 94 pound Asian that keeps winning the hotdog eating contest...

/it's not "how much", it's "what"

There's such thing called exercise.

Mentat: Carbohydrate metabolism is the central energy-generating metabolic pathway for most life, including you. Eat your damn carbs and get your fat ass to the gym.

THIS THIS THIS!!

andrew131: Extremely low-carb does work, ask any body builder. The idea, though, is to stay out of ketosis, not to nose dive right into it.

Probably not such a great example, since we're talking about mental faculties here.

19 Students, three weeks.

Crap study. Not statistically valid.

Carry on.

cheshirecatsmileyface: You do know that some vegetables and fruits have considerable amounts of carbs, right?

The point is, the carbohydrate-dietary fibre ratio in vegetables and fruits are much lower - i.e., compared to things like pasta, you'd feel full with a smaller amount of energy intake.

But I like my carbs and hate the gym. I demand a pill right now.

Carbs aren't inherently bad for you, it's the refined carbs that will kill you. I quit eating refined carbs (white flour and sugar especially) and lost 20% of my body weight. Added a good exercise program to the mix and "lost" my type 2 diabetes as well as my high cholesterol and high blood pressure.

Carbs are delicious but can be abused like any other drug.

HAHA!_You_cannot_kill_a_Hindu!

Hey, can you just prescribe a "fat pill" for us farkers? It's easier than the gym, and also more convenient.

/my heart doesn't mind
//not at all

Weight wouldn't be nearly as big an issue in this country if people had some knowledge of portion size. And I'll admit that it's hard for an average person to know what a correct portion is just by looking. Everything is over-sized. Even the salads in restaurants come on a platter large enough to serve an entire chicken on these days.

FTA: "Researchers at Tufts University have found that dieters who strive to eliminate most carbohydrates from their diets scored significantly lower on memory-based tasks than did subjects who simply reduced the amount of calories they ate."

Wait, so people who had a diet which balanced the necessary three groups of fats, proteins, and carbs in a manageable way scored better than the group which cut out a nutritional component critical for maintaining energy levels? Well, I am farking shocked.

OOBE Juan Kenobi: Exercise doesn't have quite the effect it could have if you don't put the fork down.

Tell that to the 94 pound Asian that keeps winning the hotdog eating contest...

/it's not "how much", it's "what"

So metabolism doesn't vary in individuals?

Hooray, Kiribub! Great news. I too have heard many, many weight watchers success stories, and people were totally satisfied -- plus they didn't gain the weight back.

BTW, Kiribub, I REALLY liked your Schadenfreude tag...don't give up on that. I'm sure you'd get many farkers who would agree.

Find out how many calories your body naturally burns throughout a day and subtract 500 for your intake. Combine with exercise three or four times a week and have patience - slow and steady wins this race.

There. Easy.

(320lbs 3 years ago. 240 now and still going... hopefully will run my first 5K on July 4th.)

I love the sponsored links:

Low Carb Bread
Need a Carb Blocker?
Healthy Low Carb Foods
Low Carb Gourmet Food

Maybe the people who read about how low carb diets may hurt your memory will forget the article by the time they glance at the links.

Jocundry
Not nearly as much as people would like to believe.

You can eat pretty much all you want if you stop using refined sugar in your coffee and tea, and stop drinking soda. You've got to balance what you eat with a good dose of dark greens, like raw spinach. The best thing to eat with veggies like spinach is extra virgin olive oil (first cold pressing for highest quality). It clears out your cardiovascular system. Where people go wrong with salads is using sugary dressings like ranch...

/pizza is a big vice of mine though...
//but I try to always stick with thin crust
///California Pizza Kitchen BBQ Chicken - yum (I know, BBQ sauce has sugar, but still)

eqtworld: Jocundry: So metabolism doesn't vary in individuals?

Fark_Guy_Rob: Not nearly as much as people would like to believe.

This

Do you have any details? A link perhaps?

I was 180lbs at 5ft 8in a year ago. I was rather chubby. Started exercising, I still ate the exact same food. I lose up to 168lbs 5 months ago. Then I notice my weight would fluctuate at the range of 165-168; however, I am noticeably much more muscular.

Now I realize diet and weight watching aren't really my concerns. I'm still eating junk foods and salty snack.

Exercise is really the best thing you can do.

So metabolism doesn't vary in individuals?

Sure it does, but there are ways to boost metabolism. See previous post... Genetics is a big factor, but also, how many obese people have you met that eat a lot of sugary foods? I would be willing to bet ALL of them most likely do.

I think the best way to boost metabolism is to eliminate sugars and eat dark greens. Carbs are ESSENTIAL to boosting your energy level. I eat more carbs than anything else, but also make sure to eat my veggies, too.

RoyBatty: 19 Students, three weeks.

Crap study. Not statistically valid.

Carry on.

Yeah... oh don't forget, she only read about study that she never cites.

/Fat, Stupid or both... take your pick.

Kind of funny, its targeted at atkins most likely, and I have seen this regularly. For real fun one of the biggest anti-low carb diet groups is a front for PETA. No bias there huh?

Its a poor study, not enough of a sample size, and doesn't take in a lot of variables.

Take me for example, my memory has vastly improved, along with my cognitive functions. Why? Because I am diabetic. Before this diet my blood sugars would wander from 60 to 170. The really low numbers and the swings REALLY mess with your memory and cognitive functions.

Now-my swings go from 101 to 118. MUCH MUCH better. Other diets-my exercise would drop my numbers into the toilet and mess me up. Atkins? I can exercise with no worries. For me as a diabetic this diet has been awesome.

Problems with it? Yup. This diet can cause serious risks of kidney stones, and cholesterol. But compared to blood sugar levels varying like before those are minor. Diabetes is nasty in what it does to you.

Things I miss-Diet Sunkist [no caffeine allowed], subway, quiznos, and pizza.

I take vitamins, fiber pills, and exercise more and more each day now.

Also notice that the article doesn't give any real details. Whats "significant" memory loss? Did all participants have it? Or did just one have a really bad day? And 3 weeks? What kind of study is this? How did they monitor people?

I want real science, and science that says whats right for people depending on circumstances.

Pooter: Find out how many calories your body naturally burns throughout a day and subtract 500 for your intake. Combine with exercise three or four times a week and have patience - slow and steady wins this race.

http://www.freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm

Of course, the better quality/nutritious food you eat, the more you can take in and the better you'll feel overall. Still, the general caloric rule helps a lot when making good decisions in diners and fast food places.

Ahh yes, but I do eat a tons more vegetables than I used to. I guess I do observe my diet to a degree.

I was on a low carb diet all this past semester... I got a 4.0... lost 20 pounds... I did end up going with a combination of low carb and put-down-the-farking-fork, too, though.

What's wrong with low and no-carb people is they won't eat date squares. Fine, more for me. Mwa hah hah!

Mentat: Carbohydrate metabolism is the central energy-generating metabolic pathway for most life, including you. Eat your damn carbs and get your fat ass to the gym.

If this is true why do carbohydrates provide only 4 kcal/g while fats provide 9 kcal/g?

I have an Asian friend (my mechanic back in Phoenix) that I would treat to lunch after working on my car. We would always go to a buffet (a good one, like Sweet Tomatoes). I can eat A LOT, but this dude would eat me under the table every time. I never saw someone eat so much farking chicken soup. This guy is shorter than me and weighs less. And, he didn't regurgitate.


eqtworld

He pukes after every binge session, he does not allow himself to digest that much food

/rly

ew47: FTA: "Researchers at Tufts University have found that dieters who strive to eliminate most carbohydrates from their diets scored significantly lower on memory-based tasks than did subjects who simply reduced the amount of calories they ate."

Wait, so people who had a diet which balanced the necessary three groups of fats, proteins, and carbs in a manageable way scored better than the group which cut out a nutritional component critical for maintaining energy levels? Well, I am farking shocked.

Care to give an example of an essential carbohydrate? Or a citation that establishes that humans require carbohydrates?

LOL, here come all the armchair weight-loss experts, most of whom are likely overweight themselves (considering 66% of the population falls into this category).

Like Kelly Brownel, Yale's "obesity expert" who is........wait for it........obese.

Ginkgo Biloba

There might be something to this, but a single study with only nineteen subjects, and all of them of the same sex can hardly be called conclusive.

Never try a diet that is part of a for-profit business. They have a vested interest in the weight coming back rapidly once you go off said diet. Guess whose official products you're gonna start buying again?

I joined Thong Slammers in 2003. The wife and I have farked our way to fitness and relaxation.

Masso
Exercise is really the best thing you can do.

And the hardest to stick to.

Its not really that complicated, (1) eat balanced meals, (2) eat green leafy vegetables (3) Eat a lot of fish (4) Don't smoke or drink to excess (5) don't binge eat (6) get exercise, both aerobic, and strength building types.

/ If you do that you will feel good and live longer. (unless you get shot, or catch swine flu, or whatever, best not to worry about it)