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(Washington Post) Cool The Republican Party now has about 3% more support than Ross Perot did in 1992   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 115
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UNC_Samurai [TotalFark] 2009-05-22 03:54:28 PM  
Sadly, the Republicans won't quit right before the next election.

 
what_now [TotalFark] 2009-05-22 04:03:10 PM  
"Who am I? Why am I here?"

 
Obnox [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-05-22 04:21:58 PM  
Good thing they've got Newt, Steele, Cheney and Rush to lead them back to electoral victory!

 
Hender [TotalFark] 2009-05-22 04:27:56 PM  
Obnox: Good thing they've got Newt, Steele, Cheney and Rush to lead them back to electoral victory!

You forgot the crown jewel of the Republican Party. Only the Chosen One can lead them to paradise, but in 2012 she might be busy still staring down Putin's rearing head.

 
Stay Cool Babylon 2009-05-22 04:34:09 PM  
That giant sucking sound?

It's you.

 
Stay Cool Babylon 2009-05-22 04:35:08 PM  
what_now: "Who am I? Why am I here?"

I had forgotten about that! Nice.

 
Hender [TotalFark] 2009-05-22 04:36:46 PM  
Stay Cool Babylon: That giant sucking sound?

It's you.


Heh heh.

 
what_now [TotalFark] 2009-05-22 04:43:00 PM  
Stay Cool Babylon: what_now: "Who am I? Why am I here?"

I had forgotten about that! Nice.


That poor old man. He was so out of his element, and when Dan Quayle is taking you to town, politics just isn't for you.

 
ecmoRandomNumbers [TotalFark] 2009-05-22 04:47:30 PM  
ProTip:

Don't bet on the horse that's not breathing.

They've been asking for this ever since they made Newt Gingrich their whore mouthpiece.

You've not even reaped 10% of what you've sewn, GOP. Get ready for a shiatstorm!

 
godofusa.com 2009-05-22 04:59:51 PM  
The average American did not know anything about Obama until 18 months before the election. There's plenty of time.

 
Fart_Machine 2009-05-22 05:00:15 PM  
How soon before members of the GOP start to accuse Obama of doctoring their daughter's wedding photos?

 
illegal.tender 2009-05-22 05:01:24 PM  
ecmoRandomNumbers: ProTip:

Don't bet on the horse that's not breathing.

They've been asking for this ever since they made Newt Gingrich their whore mouthpiece.

You've not even reaped 10% of what you've sewn, GOP. Get ready for a shiatstorm!


They've been this way since they started taking electoral advice from talk radio hosts, people who have NEVER BEEN ELECTED TO OFFICE.

I think that's a big part of the reason why Al Franken's election drives them into a frothing rage: a liberal talk radio host can get elected to the freaking U.S. Senate, but none of their vaunted spokesmen can even get elected to the House. Hell, they don't even bother to try.

Keep listening to Limbaugh and Beck, conservatards!

 
HighOnCraic 2009-05-22 05:02:54 PM  
Can I finish? Can I finish?...Can I finish?

 
vernonFL [TotalFark] 2009-05-22 05:05:59 PM  
Fart_Machine: How soon before members of the GOP start to accuse Obama of doctoring their daughter's wedding photos?

No, that was Nancy Pelosi and Barney Frank.

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-05-22 05:08:37 PM  
godofusa.com: The average American did not know anything about Obama until 18 months before the election. There's plenty of time.

They did, however, know PLENTY about the GOP.

Like you say, plenty of time...

 
1derful 2009-05-22 05:11:11 PM  
You can't be the "party of individual liberty" and the party that is obsessed with prohibiting personal decisions like abortion and gay marriage.

 
rcain [TotalFark] 2009-05-22 05:12:06 PM  
Palin/Limbaugh 2011!!!!!! The Ruination

 
toonz 2009-05-22 05:12:15 PM  
godofusa.com: The average American did not know anything about Obama until 18 months before the election. There's plenty of time.

notice they brought him out TO the cameras when he was unknown, not spirit him away, lest he face hard questions like what newspapers he reads or naming a supreme court decision other than Roe v. Wade.

 
HighOnCraic 2009-05-22 05:12:24 PM  
ecmoRandomNumbers: ProTip:

Don't bet on the horse that's not breathing.

They've been asking for this ever since they made Newt Gingrich their whore mouthpiece.

You've not even reaped 10% of what you've sewn, GOP. Get ready for a shiatstorm!


GOP (1998): We failed to beat Clinton in '96 despite all the controversy, and just got our asses kicked in the mid-term elections. Time to get rid of Gingrich, 'cause he's dragging us down with his impeachment obsession.

GOP (2009): We just lost the White House and we're losing ground in Congress. Let's bring back Gingrich and see what he's got to say!

Gingrich: Impeach Nancy Pelosi!!!!!

 
brynaldo 2009-05-22 05:12:34 PM  
Generic jab.

 
Hooligan32 [TotalFark] 2009-05-22 05:12:53 PM  
1derful: You can't be the "party of individual liberty" and the party that is obsessed with prohibiting personal decisions like abortion and gay marriage.

You're just a Liberal, that's why!!!

www.istockphoto.com

 
me_the_farker 2009-05-22 05:14:23 PM  
Don't worry. they are all "independents" and "libertarians" now. The 22% are all the christian theocratic wing of the party.

 
toonz 2009-05-22 05:14:37 PM  
brynaldo: Generic jab.

oh yeah!?!
clichéd rhetort!

so there!

 
Yesdog [TotalFark] 2009-05-22 05:14:38 PM  
godofusa.com: blah, blah, blah Obama blah, blah, blah

That's how you defend your precious GOP? Obama is a wildcard? THAT'S what you're banking on?

Instead of fruitless pointing at others who MIGHT fail, why don't you, you know, come up with compelling reasons to join the party of racism, fear, greed and ignorance?

Or is it just easier to point at the black guy and hope that the racist heart of the Republican party will convulse in unison?

 
toonz 2009-05-22 05:15:58 PM  
toonz: brynaldo: Generic jab.

oh yeah!?!
clichéd rhetort!

so there!


retort even

/tort reform

 
holiday_inn_in_cambodia 2009-05-22 05:17:07 PM  
rcain: Palin/Limbaugh 2011!!!!!! The Ruination Quickening

ftfy

 
Britney Spear's Speculum 2009-05-22 05:21:23 PM  
Republicans might be at 22% but I wonder what the percentage of people who answer to "conservative" are?

I also wonder what the percentage of 'conservatives who mis-self-identify as moderate are also.

 
Funk Brothers 2009-05-22 05:24:54 PM  
That means Obama can carry out what he wants to do like Nixon did, but without getting impeached.

 
RadicalMiddle [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-05-22 05:31:40 PM  
Funk Brothers: That means Obama can carry out what he wants to do like Nixon did, but without getting impeached.

As long as he doesn't hire G. Gordon Liddy, he'll be fine.

www.commondreams.org

 
jake3988 2009-05-22 05:32:08 PM  
Their national committee considers a resolution expressing the sense of the body that the Democrats should rename themselves the "Democrat Socialist Party."
===================================

Actually, I read that actually approved that resolution.

/Someone should mention to the republicans there actually already exists a democratic socialist party. I'd know, a friend of mine is a member.

 
Dr Dreidel 2009-05-22 05:32:35 PM  
holiday_inn_in_cambodia: rcain: Palin/Limbaugh 2011!!!!!! The Ruination Quickening

ftfy


Dear god noNONONONONOKILLITWITHFIREAAAAAAHNONONONONO

// why'd you have to kill my happy on a Friday afternoon?

 
ItchyMcDoogle 2009-05-22 05:33:04 PM  
yes keep closing that tent Republicans. Its suuure gonna help win in '10 and '12.
" Wahhhh we are greedy, homophobic and screw the poor and the environment. We love to play the jackhole villain. Why wont people vote for us? "
If you ask me Fox news and Limbaugh are the best things to happen to the Democrats. Who wants to vote for the idiot loudmouth party?
The Republicans are now the the equivalent of the internet troll.

 
Exodus2001 2009-05-22 05:35:14 PM  
img.snlarc.jt.org

 
Why Would I Read the Article 2009-05-22 05:37:03 PM  
The Republican party is certainly flailing right now (and has been for some time), but it's not like the Democrats are the Manhattan project of politics or anything (sorry for the forced analogy).


When the people get sick of the democrats again, we won't be focusing on the mistakes of 1994-2006, we'll be focusing on all the scandals and turmoil that the Democrats caused from 2006-xxxx.


And then the repubs will take power again, and the cycle can begin anew. Winter gives way to spring, gives way to summer, and eventually, back to winter again. The circle of politics. And the american people get farked the entire time.

 
Dimplehumper 2009-05-22 05:39:48 PM  
Luckily, enlightened Republicans are already stepping up to make some difficult changes, take a gut-check, and face reality in order to turn things around for the party.

Liberty University Shuts Down Campus Democratic Party Club (poppity)

 
Lawnchair 2009-05-22 05:40:39 PM  
what_now: Stay Cool Babylon: what_now: "Who am I? Why am I here?"

I had forgotten about that! Nice.

That poor old man. He was so out of his element, and when Dan Quayle is taking you to town, politics just isn't for you.


Adm. Stockdale was a very smart and honorable man. But, yeah, not cut out for the stage show of politics.

Still, I think the motto for the USS James Stockdale (DDG-106) should have been "Who am I? Why am I here?". Probably is, unofficially.

 
holiday_inn_in_cambodia 2009-05-22 05:41:21 PM  
Dr Dreidel: holiday_inn_in_cambodia: rcain: Palin/Limbaugh 2011!!!!!! The Ruination Quickening

ftfy

Dear god noNONONONONOKILLITWITHFIREAAAAAAHNONONONONO

// why'd you have to kill my happy on a Friday afternoon?


Hey nobody is FORCING you to not kill yourself right now, buddy

 
brainiac-dumdum [TotalFark] 2009-05-22 05:42:15 PM  
I wonder if the North Vietnamese are going to hire the Black Panthers to kill the GOP too.

 
Klingon Penis 2009-05-22 05:42:29 PM  
Why Would I Read the Article: The Republican party is certainly flailing right now (and has been for some time), but it's not like the Democrats are the Manhattan project of politics or anything (sorry for the forced analogy).


When the people get sick of the democrats again, we won't be focusing on the mistakes of 1994-2006, we'll be focusing on all the scandals and turmoil that the Democrats caused from 2006-xxxx.


And then the repubs will take power again, and the cycle can begin anew. Winter gives way to spring, gives way to summer, and eventually, back to winter again. The circle of politics. And the american people get farked the entire time.


That's like saying that Johnson signing the Civil Rights Act didn't affect the political map much for the last few generations.

Obama's election is a sea change, and the sooner the Republicans go through all the phases of death or whatever and accept it, the sooner they can return to power.

If they keep insisting on fracturing themselves the way they are now, say hello to the rise of the Libertarian Party and a liberal majority for a long, long time.

 
rppp01a 2009-05-22 05:42:43 PM  
Why Would I Read the Article: When the people get sick of the democrats again, we won't be focusing on the mistakes of 1994-2006, we'll be focusing on all the scandals and turmoil that the Democrats caused from 2006-xxxx.

I was going to say something similar.

The democrats of 2002 and 2004 couldn't budge the voting block. I remember reading 'Democracy InAction' by Jon Stewart and it had a picture of the political party graveyard. In the rear of it was a freshly dug grave, waiting for a body. The head stone read 'Democratic Party'.

I know that Republicans are favored when it comes to foreign policy and the military (though I'm really not entirely sure why) and the Democrats are favored when it comes to domestic affairs. Will the Democratic Party be able to avoid the pitfalls that sucked the Republican party down into the vortex of uselessnes? I mean, if not for the wholesale collapse of our economy, would the Democrats really have a platform?

I don't know. Here's hoping for a positive change for both parties and the eventual dropping of pathetic social issues that don't do anything but divide our nation.

 
Second Try 2009-05-22 05:44:16 PM  
Sad.

 
Dimplehumper 2009-05-22 05:45:46 PM  
illegal.tender:

They've been asking for this ever since they made Newt Gingrich their whore mouthpiece.

You've not even reaped 10% of what you've sewn, GOP. Get ready for a shiatstorm!

They've been this way since they started taking electoral advice from talk radio hosts, people who have NEVER BEEN ELECTED TO OFFICE taken a science, math, or economics course above the general eduction level.


Keep listening to Limbaugh and Beck, conservatards!


There you go. FTFY and all that.

 
holiday_inn_in_cambodia 2009-05-22 05:47:34 PM  
Klingon Penis:
Obama's election is a sea change, and the sooner the Republicans go through all the phases of death or whatever and accept it, the sooner they can return to power.

If they keep insisting on fracturing themselves the way they are now, say hello to the rise of the Libertarian Party and a liberal majority for a long, long time.




Except that most of these republicans today are doing this not out of a desire for power but because they actually believe in these stupid principles that fracture their party, as crazy and retarded as those principles may be. This will lead to further fracturing, and hopefully they will never return to power.

People are fickle though and perhaps in a year or two or 7 they will be able to say "see? we stuck to our principles, now look how YOUR guy is doing"

 
Funk Brothers 2009-05-22 05:48:15 PM  
RadicalMiddle: Funk Brothers: That means Obama can carry out what he wants to do like Nixon did, but without getting impeached.

As long as he doesn't hire G. Gordon Liddy, he'll be fine.


He probably has already hired someone similar to Liddy and the party is about ready to begin.

 
captain_heroic44 2009-05-22 05:48:30 PM  
rppp01a: Why Would I Read the Article: When the people get sick of the democrats again, we won't be focusing on the mistakes of 1994-2006, we'll be focusing on all the scandals and turmoil that the Democrats caused from 2006-xxxx.

I was going to say something similar.

The democrats of 2002 and 2004 couldn't budge the voting block. I remember reading 'Democracy InAction' by Jon Stewart and it had a picture of the political party graveyard. In the rear of it was a freshly dug grave, waiting for a body. The head stone read 'Democratic Party'.

I know that Republicans are favored when it comes to foreign policy and the military (though I'm really not entirely sure why) and the Democrats are favored when it comes to domestic affairs. Will the Democratic Party be able to avoid the pitfalls that sucked the Republican party down into the vortex of uselessnes? I mean, if not for the wholesale collapse of our economy, would the Democrats really have a platform?

I don't know. Here's hoping for a positive change for both parties and the eventual dropping of pathetic social issues that don't do anything but divide our nation.


Late in the election season last fall, Democrats were surpassing Republicans on foreign affairs. Don't know if that's held up. But the Republicans lost their foreign policy edge under Bush for awhile. I.e., it's not just the economy, stupid.

 
wolvernova 2009-05-22 06:08:16 PM  
I think I am what is considered a would-be Republican. Probably more libertarian. I believe in conservative principles way more than liberal ones, at least in terms of economic principles. But I don't give a shiat about the divisive gay/abortion/anti-muslim tirades that have overtaken the party. So long as the party is dedicated to those philosophies and propping Israel's interests over our own, I'm more likely to "waste" my vote.

The party is done. Republicans, please toss the evangelicals to the curb. You've lost the "social conservatism" war. Let it go. They'll still vote for you. They have nowhere else to go. You only alienate the sane population when you align yourselves with people like Falwell and Robertson.

 
rppp01a 2009-05-22 06:13:24 PM  
Late in the election season last fall, Democrats were surpassing Republicans on foreign affairs. Don't know if that's held up. But the Republicans lost their foreign policy edge under Bush for awhile. I.e., it's not just the economy, stupid.


Good point. What do you think would have been the outcome of the election had the economy continued to sputter along? I'm not saying it would have changed my vote (I've been against the invasion of Iraq and all of that nightmare since I first heard shades of it in 2001).

 
captain_heroic44 2009-05-22 06:14:26 PM  
wolvernova: I think I am what is considered a would-be Republican. Probably more libertarian. I believe in conservative principles way more than liberal ones, at least in terms of economic principles. But I don't give a shiat about the divisive gay/abortion/anti-muslim tirades that have overtaken the party. So long as the party is dedicated to those philosophies and propping Israel's interests over our own, I'm more likely to "waste" my vote.

The party is done. Republicans, please toss the evangelicals to the curb. You've lost the "social conservatism" war. Let it go. They'll still vote for you. They have nowhere else to go. You only alienate the sane population when you align yourselves with people like Falwell and Robertson.


Actually, that's really the Republican dilemma. Evangelicals have historically demonstrated that they will not vote for non-evangelical tickets. They won't even go to the polls. That was supposedly part of the mixed appeal of Palin: draw off angry Hillary supporters while still energizing the evangelical base. Worked pretty well to energize evangelicals. Less well for drawing off Hillary supporters.

I actually support the theory that but for Palin, or some other evangelical-friendly Veep, McCain's defeat would have been truly crushing. She's the only thing that brought the religious nutjobs to the polls.

 
Tor_Eckman [TotalFark] 2009-05-22 06:19:11 PM  
captain_heroic44: wolvernova: I think I am what is considered a would-be Republican. Probably more libertarian. I believe in conservative principles way more than liberal ones, at least in terms of economic principles. But I don't give a shiat about the divisive gay/abortion/anti-muslim tirades that have overtaken the party. So long as the party is dedicated to those philosophies and propping Israel's interests over our own, I'm more likely to "waste" my vote.

The party is done. Republicans, please toss the evangelicals to the curb. You've lost the "social conservatism" war. Let it go. They'll still vote for you. They have nowhere else to go. You only alienate the sane population when you align yourselves with people like Falwell and Robertson.

Actually, that's really the Republican dilemma. Evangelicals have historically demonstrated that they will not vote for non-evangelical tickets. They won't even go to the polls. That was supposedly part of the mixed appeal of Palin: draw off angry Hillary supporters while still energizing the evangelical base. Worked pretty well to energize evangelicals. Less well for drawing off Hillary supporters.

I actually support the theory that but for Palin, or some other evangelical-friendly Veep, McCain's defeat would have been truly crushing. She's the only thing that brought the religious nutjobs to the polls.


Maybe. But she scared the bejesus out of moderates who may have swung his way. It also energized the Democrat's base. I would have done just about anything to keep that dimbulb away from the WH.

 
12349876 2009-05-22 06:22:29 PM  
godofusa.com: The average American did not know anything about Obama until 18 months before the election. There's plenty of time.

The politicos knew about him and had him pegged as a strong potential future president after his speech at the 2004 convention (Though not so soon).

I don't think even the Republican politicos can name a Republican who looks good right now for a future presidential run other than has-beens with huge baggage.

 
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