hm, not douchey, but I still fear the end results...

Meh, it has potential to be decent, much more potential to suck.

My god they're full of douche...

I heard it was a combination of Korn & Slipknot's music that put Cheng in a coma, leading him to a car crash.

Two 'EBN links in a week?

They used to be good in the Brute Force Cybernetics days.

Korn is light years better than the derivative crap most of that scene has been churning out recently.

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Korn is light years better than the derivative crap most of that scene has been churning out recently.

wow, that's sad.

Ooooh this should be good. Don't care much for Korn, but the guys from Slipknot and Sevendust are pretty good musicians

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Korn is light years better than the derivative crap most of that scene has been churning out recently.

Which scene are you referring to, exactly?

NorCalLos: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Korn is light years better than the derivative crap most of that scene has been churning out recently.

Which scene are you referring to, exactly?

Mainstream hard rock/metal. Avenged Sevenfold. Disturbed. Atreyu. Hinder. Crap like that.

Didn't say I liked Korn. But at least they're semi-original.

if you were in your teens in the '90s, odds are you own/owned copies of "korn", "life is peachy" and "follow the leader". i can't speak for their catologue past that though, never liked what i heard.

back to tfa, glad to know chi is out of the coma. hope his recovery goes well.

SacriliciousBeerSwiller:
Mainstream hard rock/metal. Avenged Sevenfold. Disturbed. Atreyu. Hinder. Crap like that.

Didn't say I liked Korn. But at least they're semi-original.

I prefer to categorize them all as "nu-metal" since that's what they call themselves.

Sevendust is (well, was I guess) an amazing band. I think they peaked around Seasons, and KoRn peaked with the album that "Thoughtless" is on.

I like this charity song idea. Sevendust did something similar with a song called "Angel's Son" about a decade ago.

Fonaibung: Sevendust is (well, was I guess) an amazing band.

Yeah, I can't say much against them. They're one of those bands all these newer ones are piggy-backing on. It's akin to all the wretched wannabes that Pearl Jam (who I also respect) spawned off.

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: NorCalLos: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Korn is light years better than the derivative crap most of that scene has been churning out recently.

Which scene are you referring to, exactly?

Mainstream hard rock/metal. Avenged Sevenfold. Disturbed. Atreyu. Hinder. Crap like that.

Didn't say I liked Korn. But at least they're semi-original.

Are not.

Sherjo311: back to tfa, glad to know chi is out of the coma. hope his recovery goes well.

Seriously. I want the new album to come out.

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: NorCalLos: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Korn is light years better than the derivative crap most of that scene has been churning out recently.

Which scene are you referring to, exactly?

Mainstream hard rock/metal. Avenged Sevenfold. Disturbed. Atreyu. Hinder. Crap like that.

Didn't say I liked Korn. But at least they're semi-original.

11,000 other bands that have been busting their asses for the past 15 years would like a word with you.

My 35-year-old co-worker went to see KoRn last night with his wife. He told me this like I was supposed to think he was cool or something. I smiled politely.

Nu metal = interracial marriage

LewDux: Nu metal = interracial marriage

Nu Metal = Metal + Rap + Boy Band

Oh, and no matter what, with Brian 'Head' Welch involved the douche level is bound to be very high.

/Deftones only decent song was Passenger, because of Maynard.

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: NorCalLos: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Korn is light years better than the derivative crap most of that scene has been churning out recently.

Which scene are you referring to, exactly?

Mainstream hard rock/metal. Avenged Sevenfold. Disturbed. Atreyu. Hinder. Crap like that.

Didn't say I liked Korn. But at least they're semi-original.

I think the difference between KORN and these other bands is that Korn started off kinda underground and the mainstream came to them. These other bands just kinda did what was already going on/popular without adding anything new or "edgy." Nu-Metal will be back, though. Once grunge has it's renaissance and then dies down.

NorCalLos: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: NorCalLos: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Korn is light years better than the derivative crap most of that scene has been churning out recently.

Which scene are you referring to, exactly?

Mainstream hard rock/metal. Avenged Sevenfold. Disturbed. Atreyu. Hinder. Crap like that.

Didn't say I liked Korn. But at least they're semi-original.

I think the difference between KORN and these other bands is that Korn started off kinda underground and the mainstream came to them. These other bands just kinda did what was already going on/popular without adding anything new or "edgy." Nu-Metal will be back, though. Once grunge has it's renaissance and then dies down.

Yeah, I first heard of Korn back in 1995, right after their first record came out. I've always been a fan, though some of their newer stuff I wish sounded like the older stuff.

I learned that Terry Bozzio is Korn's drummer the other day. I cried for the next 2 days, for music AND Terry.

Patterson No. say it isn't so!
Kidding aside, I can see Bozzio doing somthin like that. He was in Missing Persons back in the 80's, I think. I guess He's pretty open-minded, musically. Maybe He'll inject some cool crap, besides, I ain't heard a lot of Korn, but I kinda like what I heard. Wouldn't buy any, but I don't turn it off the radio

Fonaibung:

I like this charity song idea. Sevendust did something similar with a song called "Angel's Son" about a decade ago.

Hadn't thought about that one in forever. It was on an album called Strait Up by this band called Snot. Their singer Lynn Strait died so all their buddies chipped in to do vocals on the record. It had members of Korn and Slipknot on that one too, as well as pretty much every other popular Nu Metal band from the late 90s/early 2000s.

Nice idea, I really really hope it doesn't suck.

Ya...that album had potential. Unfortunately, it was really lame. Snot's good song: Kinda Subtle (new window)

facisto: Sherjo311: back to tfa, glad to know chi is out of the coma. hope his recovery goes well.

Seriously. I want the new album to come out.

well, it won't be released with relevance to chi recovering. although i'm in agreement with you, chi's career is done. his nueral state, i'm willing to bet, got reset on a lot of things he had learned during his years on bass. hope i'm wrong, but i'm convinced of this. the tones however are wrapping up recording on new material with a sub bass player, one sergio vega, wtf that is

All the tea in China

NorCalLos

Snot's album was genius. I make no hesitation to that claim either - It's the perfect blend of metal, punk, jazz, lounge, ska,... shiat, there's something for everyone on it. it's a brief glimpse at what raw talent is supposed to sound like. case in point - Get Some (pops)

Sherjo311: All the tea in China

NorCalLos

Snot's album was genius. I make no hesitation to that claim either - It's the perfect blend of metal, punk, jazz, lounge, ska,... shiat, there's something for everyone on it. it's a brief glimpse at what raw talent is supposed to sound like. case in point - Get Some (pops)

Actual geniuses would like a word with you. It was cool for the time, but sounds extremely dated now and the "jazz" sound you hear escapes me. They're not nearly as good as others from the genre (System, Incubus, Salmon even). I'm not even hatin' on 'em, but I think your opinion of them is clouded by your fond memories of your own relevance.

NorCalLos: Sherjo311: All the tea in China

NorCalLos

Snot's album was genius. I make no hesitation to that claim either - It's the perfect blend of metal, punk, jazz, lounge, ska,... shiat, there's something for everyone on it. it's a brief glimpse at what raw talent is supposed to sound like. case in point - Get Some (pops)

Actual geniuses would like a word with you. It was cool for the time, but sounds extremely dated now and the "jazz" sound you hear escapes me. They're not nearly as good as others from the genre (System, Incubus, Salmon even). I'm not even hatin' on 'em, but I think your opinion of them is clouded by your fond memories of your own relevance.

my own relevance puts them atop the genre fusion leaderboard imho. both system and incubus were influenced by snot by spending time with them during the mid to late 90's and neither of them could hold it together. system never had the vocals and incubus... well, my guess is they just started to lay off the psychodelics

I like genre fusion when it's done right. I thought it was done right on Follow the Leader. The one with Ice Cube on it. That other one close to the end of the album was also good. I even liked that Fred Durst track.

I like seeing folks from other bands get together. The end result is usually intriguing and in rare cases is better than anything either band could make on its own.

Sherjo311: NorCalLos: Sherjo311: All the tea in China

NorCalLos

Snot's album was genius. I make no hesitation to that claim either - It's the perfect blend of metal, punk, jazz, lounge, ska,... shiat, there's something for everyone on it. it's a brief glimpse at what raw talent is supposed to sound like. case in point - Get Some (pops)

Actual geniuses would like a word with you. It was cool for the time, but sounds extremely dated now and the "jazz" sound you hear escapes me. They're not nearly as good as others from the genre (System, Incubus, Salmon even). I'm not even hatin' on 'em, but I think your opinion of them is clouded by your fond memories of your own relevance.

my own relevance puts them atop the genre fusion leaderboard imho. both system and incubus were influenced by snot by spending time with them during the mid to late 90's and neither of them could hold it together. system never had the vocals and incubus... well, my guess is they just started to lay off the psychodelics

Are you suggested the dude form Snot was a better vocalist than Serj? And that Incubus didn't hold it together? I know they have a new bass player and dj now, but they're as good as ever, although S.C.I.E.N.C.E. is still my fav album.

NorCalLos: Sherjo311: NorCalLos: Sherjo311: All the tea in China

NorCalLos

Snot's album was genius. I make no hesitation to that claim either - It's the perfect blend of metal, punk, jazz, lounge, ska,... shiat, there's something for everyone on it. it's a brief glimpse at what raw talent is supposed to sound like. case in point - Get Some (pops)

Actual geniuses would like a word with you. It was cool for the time, but sounds extremely dated now and the "jazz" sound you hear escapes me. They're not nearly as good as others from the genre (System, Incubus, Salmon even). I'm not even hatin' on 'em, but I think your opinion of them is clouded by your fond memories of your own relevance.

my own relevance puts them atop the genre fusion leaderboard imho. both system and incubus were influenced by snot by spending time with them during the mid to late 90's and neither of them could hold it together. system never had the vocals and incubus... well, my guess is they just started to lay off the psychodelics

Are you suggested the dude form Snot was a better vocalist than Serj? And that Incubus didn't hold it together? I know they have a new bass player and dj now, but they're as good as ever, although S.C.I.E.N.C.E. is still my fav album.

no, lynn isn't "better" than serj, but he's much more listenable than serj. serj's voice sometimes makes my ears turn, i really don't like it. lynn couldn't sing per se, but he had really good rhythm and is perfectly understandable when screaming.

incubus is an altogether different story, as far as i'm concerned. fungus amongus and science were just classics, and make yourself was a good maturation, while retaining much of what made their sound original in the first place. ever since a crow left of the murder, there has been little focus on maintaining an original sound and they've become so generic in orientation that it blends in with much of what i hear on the radio. and i don't listen to much radio.

Sherjo311: NorCalLos: Sherjo311: NorCalLos: Sherjo311: All the tea in China

NorCalLos

Snot's album was genius. I make no hesitation to that claim either - It's the perfect blend of metal, punk, jazz, lounge, ska,... shiat, there's something for everyone on it. it's a brief glimpse at what raw talent is supposed to sound like. case in point - Get Some (pops)

Actual geniuses would like a word with you. It was cool for the time, but sounds extremely dated now and the "jazz" sound you hear escapes me. They're not nearly as good as others from the genre (System, Incubus, Salmon even). I'm not even hatin' on 'em, but I think your opinion of them is clouded by your fond memories of your own relevance.

my own relevance puts them atop the genre fusion leaderboard imho. both system and incubus were influenced by snot by spending time with them during the mid to late 90's and neither of them could hold it together. system never had the vocals and incubus... well, my guess is they just started to lay off the psychodelics

Are you suggested the dude form Snot was a better vocalist than Serj? And that Incubus didn't hold it together? I know they have a new bass player and dj now, but they're as good as ever, although S.C.I.E.N.C.E. is still my fav album.

no, lynn isn't "better" than serj, but he's much more listenable than serj. serj's voice sometimes makes my ears turn, i really don't like it. lynn couldn't sing per se, but he had really good rhythm and is perfectly understandable when screaming.

incubus is an altogether different story, as far as i'm concerned. fungus amongus and science were just classics, and make yourself was a good maturation, while retaining much of what made their sound original in the first place. ever since a crow left of the murder, there has been little focus on maintaining an original sound and they've become so generic in orientation that it blends in with much of what i hear on the radio. and i don't listen to much radio.

You might not want to check out the live Snot on youtube. I was going to link to the live version of My Balls Your Chin, but it wasn't good at all. A lot of the old Incubus fans share your opinion about the albums after SCIENCE and/or Make Yourself, but the biggest change in my opinion was the guitar tone. Einziger still writes some kickass songs, and Brandon is Brandon. The new single is sweet, despite being a sappy balad.

NorCalLos: Sherjo311: NorCalLos: Sherjo311: NorCalLos: Sherjo311: All the tea in China

NorCalLos

Snot's album was genius. I make no hesitation to that claim either - It's the perfect blend of metal, punk, jazz, lounge, ska,... shiat, there's something for everyone on it. it's a brief glimpse at what raw talent is supposed to sound like. case in point - Get Some (pops)

Actual geniuses would like a word with you. It was cool for the time, but sounds extremely dated now and the "jazz" sound you hear escapes me. They're not nearly as good as others from the genre (System, Incubus, Salmon even). I'm not even hatin' on 'em, but I think your opinion of them is clouded by your fond memories of your own relevance.

my own relevance puts them atop the genre fusion leaderboard imho. both system and incubus were influenced by snot by spending time with them during the mid to late 90's and neither of them could hold it together. system never had the vocals and incubus... well, my guess is they just started to lay off the psychodelics

Are you suggested the dude form Snot was a better vocalist than Serj? And that Incubus didn't hold it together? I know they have a new bass player and dj now, but they're as good as ever, although S.C.I.E.N.C.E. is still my fav album.

no, lynn isn't "better" than serj, but he's much more listenable than serj. serj's voice sometimes makes my ears turn, i really don't like it. lynn couldn't sing per se, but he had really good rhythm and is perfectly understandable when screaming.

incubus is an altogether different story, as far as i'm concerned. fungus amongus and science were just classics, and make yourself was a good maturation, while retaining much of what made their sound original in the first place. ever since a crow left of the murder, there has been little focus on maintaining an original sound and they've become so generic in orientation that it blends in with much of what i hear on the radio. and i don't listen to much radio.

You might not want to check out the live Snot on youtube. I was going to link to the live version of My Balls Your Chin, but it wasn't good at all. A lot of the old Incubus fans share your opinion about the albums after SCIENCE and/or Make Yourself, but the biggest change in my opinion was the guitar tone. Einziger still writes some kickass songs, and Brandon is Brandon. The new single is sweet, despite being a sappy balad.

yeah, i've seen the live vids. "stoopid" and "get some" are a couple i've seen that are good quality when played live, but others, like "my balls" are pretty bad. haven't heard the new incubus - i may give it a try for old times sake