Serious question: what do you think would cause people to become more berserk and outraged? Knowing that a male teacher diddled a female student in their town, or a male teacher/male student incident?

"He violated my snowflake" versus "He turned my son into a fag."

Now she's double troubled.

You gotta winder how close her 18th birthday is.

WFern: Serious question: what do you think would cause people to become more berserk and outraged? Knowing that a male teacher diddled a female student in their town, or a male teacher/male student incident?

"He violated my snowflake" versus "He turned my son into a fag."

Female teacher, female student, turkey baster full of semen. "She violated my snowflake, turned her into a fag, and got her pregnant" probably trumps "two chicks, hot" in this scenario

Dude, she's 17. I'm not saying it's cool and I'm not saying he shouldn't lose his job and/or get his ass kicked, but rape? Methinks she was willing.

Well, everybody likes a little bad girl sometimes.

/Window seat

"Forceable sodomy"? Is there any other kind?

I don't get it - they fired his wife too? What did she do other than not satisfy him enough such that he had to go boink a minor?

qgmonkey: "Forceable sodomy"? Is there any other kind?

Yes...

so bring the pitchforks and torches.

Done.

qgmonkey: "Forceable sodomy"? Is there any other kind?

Yes?

qgmonkey: "Forceable sodomy"? Is there any other kind?

GIS "asscave," and you'll see it can be quite easy with certain people

/incredibly NSFW
//or your lunch

Sahrial: qgmonkey: "Forceable sodomy"? Is there any other kind?

Yes...

Why, just last night, as a matter of fact....

chixdiggit: I don't get it - they fired his wife too? What did she do other than not satisfy him enough such that he had to go boink a minor?

I believe the french call it... menage a trois?

Yep, I'm usually all for hitting the underage quim but in this case, with girls at an emotional low and having mental issues and all, well, just poorly played, my man.

Put a man in charge of 17 year old females with low self-esteem, rebellious attitudes, and hot nubile bodies. What did you expect?

NewHairGrowth: Yep, I'm usually all for hitting the underage quim... with girls at an emotional low and having mental issues and all...

Dude!

He was 29, she was 17. He's not that old, she's not really a kid.

Doesn't really merit the Sick tag, I mean, it's not like Sean Penn was farking Natalie Portman or something...

These activities are not supposed to take place in the context of a therapeutic community, regardless of age. The whole point is for the resident to get help and receive sanctuary from their troubles, not to enter into another exploitive situation.

///not cool

WFern: "He violated my snowflake"

Well, the good news is that'll never happen again

Oh, lord, am I the first person to ask??!

So, the 29-year old teacher...is he hot?

He thought the school for troubled girls is supposed to produce troubled girls. Easy mistake.

qgmonkey: "Forceable sodomy"? Is there any other kind?

No better kind

I don't know, last time I felt "troubled" a good farking cheered me right up, sounds like the guy was doing a good job.

Bee Roo Ga Ho Shee: 17-year old and troubled? She probably smokes, drinks, and f*cks more than the lot of us. Oh well, too bad for this guy... hope it was fun, at least.

That's the thing. He knew her deal and he still went for it, so he definitely needs to be fired.

But any guy who has dated a girl in her late teens/early 20s knows that it's a freaking joke to pretend that they're all perfect little snowflakes who have never even thought about sex. For instance, I got absolutely owned by a 17-year-old girl when I was about 20. It was like a movie: I went in thinking I was the badass older guy who was going to usher her into womanhood and came out shaking and hugging myself and softly weeping.

OurManFlint1: These activities are not supposed to take place in the context of a therapeutic community, regardless of age. The whole point is for the resident to get help and receive sanctuary from their troubles, not to enter into another exploitive situation.

///not cool

Was it an exploitive situation? The law says it was due to the girl's age, but there's not enough information in TFA to indicate whether or not the girl entered into it without coercion, or even made the first move herself.

/had a 15-year-old girl make such a move on me about a year ago
//didn't give in
///she got over it

ravenlore: Oh, lord, am I the first person to ask??!

So, the 29-year old teacher...is he hot?

unable to click the link?

Confused... isn't this what troubled girls are for?

(Or maybe it's that the only ones who've ever loved me were the troubled ones...)

OurManFlint1: These activities are not supposed to take place in the context of a therapeutic community


So now sex is no longer considered therapeutic? What type of world is this?


/free natural sex doesn't make drug companies profits

chixdiggit: I don't get it - they fired his wife too? What did she do other than not satisfy him enough such that he had to go boink a minor?

BINGO!

dbirchall: Confused... isn't this what troubled girls are for?

(Or maybe it's that the only ones who've ever loved me were the troubled ones...)

The problem there is you are assuming that there are girls that are not troubled.

/married for 13 years
//10 yo daughter
///Both are evil

anfrind:
Was it an exploitive situation? The law says it was due to the girl's age, but there's not enough information in TFA to indicate whether or not the girl entered into it without coercion, or even made the first move herself.


It was an exploitative situation, because he worked there and was in a position of authority over her. He may not have forced her, hell, she may have gone after him, but the problem is that he worked there. He was charged with forceable sodomy, but that may just be because of the age thing, arguing that she can't give consent so anything he does is forced.

Since the female teacher/male students get it, it's only fair!

Whoo hoo!

I'd hit it!

Where were teachers like that when I became a fark-up and was sent to a school for troulbed teens!??!

OurManFlint1: These activities are not supposed to take place in the context of a therapeutic community, regardless of age. The whole point is for the resident to get help and receive sanctuary from their troubles, not to enter into another exploitive situation.

///not cool

bingo. it wouldn't matter what her age was if she was a patient in a mental health facility. she could have been 40 and it still would be a rape charge due to the fact that a patient in a mental ward is legally unable to consent. additionally, while many might be thinking that this would make it a statutory rape charge (she was into it, obviously), but not only was she too young to consent but mentally unable to consent. also, there are questions about abuse of authority with this case. she may have been under the incorrect assumption that it was OK to have sex with him because he would have told her if it was against the rules or something. farked up logic, but eh, it's the loony bin.

Fortunately for him there is a precedent involving another 29 year old teacher with another 17 year old student in Tooele:


Cameo Patch, 29: Substitute teacher at Tooele High School in Tooele, Utah, arrested for allegedly performing oral sex on a 17-year-old male student. The sexual activity was allegedly consensual, and reportedly took place off school grounds after the pair had exchanged phone numbers in a restaurant. In November 2006, Patch was sentenced to no jail time, despite comments from the judge that a man would have likely gone to prison. (new window)

Unfortunately for him it was a female teacher and the judge actually said in open court that a male would go to prison. Gotta love that judicial impartiality.

My first greenlight, after 5 years of submitting funnier headlines.

I did not write the line, "Older guy/teen girl, so bring the pitchforks and torches." I do not think that adds anything. It isn't funny, or even particularly troll-ish, and is sort of redundant - "sex with student" already implies the age difference. I guess the ModMitter was commenting on the disparity of reactions if the genders of the teacher & student had been reversed. LOL, kind sir. LOL.

So my first greenlight is tainted. Literally.

I wish my headline about Gov. Huntsman being nominated to be Ambassador to China had been greenlit, instead. It wasn't really funny, but he just legalized homebrewing in Utah, and since I am opening a brewpub in Logan, Utah, I really would have gotten a kick out of the replies.

/Cache Valley Brewing Company - future home of the Northern Utah Fark Party

This thread is useless without pictures.

qgmonkey:
"Forceable sodomy"? Is there any other kind?

If its requested, its "butt love"
If its tolerated, its "anal sex"
If its not wanted, its "forced sodomy."

/now you know
//and knowing is half the battle

FunkOut: He was 29, she was 17. He's not that old, she's not really a kid.

Doesn't really merit the Sick tag, I mean, it's not like Sean Penn was farking Natalie Portman or something...



I'd hit it...


...but she'd probably blow me away.

This dude has some serious issues. I am familiar with a group home for girls. Those girls are violent and scary - not sweet and sexy. Their troubles are for real.

/ Would not hit any of it

Anyone who thinks this is mildly acceptable or deserving of a hand-slap for the perpetrator. Ask yourself this: If your daughter was in a residence for troubled girls/teens would you be comfortable with her getting the meat-pipe from a caregiver? Even if she liked him and consented?

His wife got fired too. She described him as a 'good person despite making some mistakes'. Stupid biatch deserves to get fired along with her perv husband.

Sandelaphon: FunkOut: He was 29, she was 17. He's not that old, she's not really a kid.

Doesn't really merit the Sick tag, I mean, it's not like Sean Penn was farking Natalie Portman or something...



I'd hit it...
...but she'd probably blow me away.

not sure it want.
/would it be worth it?

OurManFlint1: Anyone who thinks this is mildly acceptable or deserving of a hand-slap for the perpetrator. Ask yourself this: If your daughter was in a residence for troubled girls/teens would you be comfortable with her getting the meat-pipe from a caregiver? Even if she liked him and consented?

The "if it was your daughter" argument is old hat.

LegalizeThoughtCrime: My first greenlight, after 5 years of submitting funnier headlines.

I did not write the line, "Older guy/teen girl, so bring the pitchforks and torches." I do not think that adds anything. It isn't funny, or even particularly troll-ish, and is sort of redundant - "sex with student" already implies the age difference. I guess the ModMitter was commenting on the disparity of reactions if the genders of the teacher & student had been reversed. LOL, kind sir. LOL.

So my first greenlight is tainted. Literally.


Thanks for the clarification. I've had a submission tainted, too--in which the mod had an apparently political disagreement with me, and changed my tag from "dumbass" to "hero." Really not cool.

From the comments on the threads, few are doing the pitchforks and torches. But if the mod wants to feel like a victim, hell, go for it. Who are we to stop you?

//dumbass

Good for him.

/Former teacher
//Female

sorry for you LegalizeThoughtCrime that a modmitter made a mistake trying to incite people to the cause of older-guy younger girl bias. That was the wrong call because this really was a crime.

This was a group for troubled and depressed kids. Some of the kids there probably have trust issues in the first place ( not to mention mental issues ) and a place like that is supposed to be a safe haven.

Even if she had been around the block a few times, she may not have the emotional maturity to keep from being taken advantage of.

oh snap, troubled and depressed kids?

I retract my above pic and caption.