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ghare 2009-05-17 02:32:04 PM  
Don't we all wish.

 
IronTony 2009-05-17 02:33:25 PM  
The article made me giggle.

 
Boorring 2009-05-17 02:33:43 PM  
Given the current inclinations of Republicans, "shooting oneself in the face" is too easy to make a joke about, so I won't.

 
PumpUpDaFark 2009-05-17 02:35:48 PM  
Dick Cheney ate your baby.

 
brainiac-dumdum [TotalFark] 2009-05-17 02:36:56 PM  
PumpUpDaFark: Dick Cheney ate your baby.

then shot you in the face...

 
Weaver95 [TotalFark] 2009-05-17 02:39:22 PM  
that writer needs work on her character development and dialogue writing skills.

 
punistation 2009-05-17 02:39:36 PM  
www.users.on.net

Pride and hate. It's a gang thing.

 
Epiphany 2009-05-17 02:39:46 PM  
All this talk about the death of the GOP cracks me up. It wasn't that long ago that the Republicans were in charge of everything, and nobody was claiming the death of the donkey party. This will all work itself out, and the Republicans will gain control again, and then the Democrats again, and then the Republicans, and so on and so on.

 
dySWN 2009-05-17 02:41:31 PM  
Epiphany: All this talk about the death of the GOP cracks me up. It wasn't that long ago that the Republicans were in charge of everything, and nobody was claiming the death of the donkey party. This will all work itself out, and the Republicans will gain control again, and then the Democrats again, and then the Republicans, and so on and so on.

This.

Also, one has to wonder how this whole anti-Cheny thing is any different from the anti-Pelosi thing, or any political witch hunt for that matter.

 
HighOnCraic 2009-05-17 02:43:09 PM  
PumpUpDaFark: Dick Cheney ate your baby.

Eats, shoots, and leaves?

 
Weaver95 [TotalFark] 2009-05-17 02:43:45 PM  
Epiphany: All this talk about the death of the GOP cracks me up. It wasn't that long ago that the Republicans were in charge of everything, and nobody was claiming the death of the donkey party. This will all work itself out, and the Republicans will gain control again, and then the Democrats again, and then the Republicans, and so on and so on.

i'm not so sure the Republicans will survive their quiet little inter-party civil war. It's looking like they'll purge the moderates and fiscal conservatives from the party and move waaaay to the right. Which will alienate a good bit of the country. I don't see them maintaining a hold on many national level offices that way.

 
Bucky Katt [TotalFark] 2009-05-17 02:45:44 PM  
brainiac-dumdum: PumpUpDaFark: Dick Cheney ate your baby.

then shot you in the face...


he shot the baby in the face?

 
Epiphany 2009-05-17 02:45:47 PM  
Weaver95: Epiphany: All this talk about the death of the GOP cracks me up. It wasn't that long ago that the Republicans were in charge of everything, and nobody was claiming the death of the donkey party. This will all work itself out, and the Republicans will gain control again, and then the Democrats again, and then the Republicans, and so on and so on.

i'm not so sure the Republicans will survive their quiet little inter-party civil war. It's looking like they'll purge the moderates and fiscal conservatives from the party and move waaaay to the right. Which will alienate a good bit of the country. I don't see them maintaining a hold on many national level offices that way.


The Republican party will adapt, mainly because that's what political parties do to survive. When they realize it's not working or won't work, they'll change and take control again. Also, all it takes is one supreme farkup in the Democratically controlled congress or by the President to shift the publics perception away from the Democrats. It could take 10 years, it could take 2 years, but it will happen.

 
ChickenTits 2009-05-17 02:47:31 PM  
Epiphany: All this talk about the death of the GOP cracks me up. It wasn't that long ago that the Republicans were in charge of everything, and nobody was claiming the death of the donkey party. This will all work itself out, and the Republicans will gain control again, and then the Democrats again, and then the Republicans, and so on and so on.

If Republicans make a comeback, the party is going to look a hell of a lot more different than it does now.

 
Bucky Katt [TotalFark] 2009-05-17 02:47:44 PM  
Weaver95: Epiphany: All this talk about the death of the GOP cracks me up. It wasn't that long ago that the Republicans were in charge of everything, and nobody was claiming the death of the donkey party. This will all work itself out, and the Republicans will gain control again, and then the Democrats again, and then the Republicans, and so on and so on.

i'm not so sure the Republicans will survive their quiet little inter-party civil war. It's looking like they'll purge the moderates and fiscal conservatives from the party and move waaaay to the right. Which will alienate a good bit of the country. I don't see them maintaining a hold on many national level offices that way.


Whig Part anyone?

 
5_second_rule 2009-05-17 02:48:54 PM  
Weaver95: that writer needs work on her character development and dialogue writing skills.

Saying the article sucked would of suficed also.

/stinking hippy lib

 
Bucky Katt [TotalFark] 2009-05-17 02:49:47 PM  
Anyone seen my missing "y"?

 
SomebodyElsesShoes 2009-05-17 02:49:52 PM  
How the Republican Party shot itself in the face?

Did they use an elephant gun?

 
brainiac-dumdum [TotalFark] 2009-05-17 02:50:27 PM  
Bucky Katt: brainiac-dumdum: PumpUpDaFark: Dick Cheney ate your baby.

then shot you in the face...

he shot the baby in the face?


sure, why not? Is it wrong to shot a baby in the face these days? Does the PC Police frown upon shooting babies in the face? Is America no longer the Land of the Free and the Home of bravely shooing babies in the face?

 
Weaver95 [TotalFark] 2009-05-17 02:51:00 PM  
Epiphany: The Republican party will adapt, mainly because that's what political parties do to survive. When they realize it's not working or won't work, they'll change and take control again. Also, all it takes is one supreme farkup in the Democratically controlled congress or by the President to shift the publics perception away from the Democrats. It could take 10 years, it could take 2 years, but it will happen.

I'm not seeing ANY signs of adaptation from the Republicans. None at all. NOTHING along the lines of moving back to the center. Nothing that indicates they've understood the many mistakes they've made or just how much they need the moderates and fiscal conservatives.

I think that by 2010 the Republicans will have completed their purge of the moderates and cemented their alliance with the religious right wing in this country. They'll ignore fiscal issues and proceed entirely on a moral authority/strong authoritarian party platform. Which I do not believe will gain them many votes at the national level.

Granted, there's a lot that could happen between then and now...but it's looking to me as if the Republicans are following Limbaugh and Cheney over the edge of a cliff. And the Democrats are getting the hell out of their way while they do it.

 
buwolverine 2009-05-17 02:51:02 PM  
Epiphany: All this talk about the death of the GOP cracks me up. It wasn't that long ago that the Republicans were in charge of everything, and nobody was claiming the death of the donkey party. This will all work itself out, and the Republicans will gain control again, and then the Democrats again, and then the Republicans, and so on and so on.

The difference being was that the Democratic Party lacked strong leadership, and was struggling to sell a message that needed to be refined. Both of those issues were resolved and we moved forward.

The GOP is in the same boat on those two counts, but also suffers from a far more serious flaw; their foundation is beginning to crack. The longer the Republicans fight over who is a "true Republican" the worse off they are. Finding a strong leader (and no Michael Steele isn't it) and refining their message is easy, and they could be back on solid footing by 2012; but as long as they continue to further drive the wedge deeper into the crack, well all the better for us Democrats.

 
dodecahedron [TotalFark] 2009-05-17 02:51:45 PM  
Won't you go home, Dick Cheney, won't you go home
You've biatched the whole year long.
You outed Valerie Plame, now ain't it a shame,
Dick Cheney, won't you please go home.

 
Weaver95 [TotalFark] 2009-05-17 02:53:34 PM  
5_second_rule: Weaver95: that writer needs work on her character development and dialogue writing skills.

Saying the article sucked would of suficed also.

/stinking hippy lib


Nah - it was an interesting idea, but the author didn't seem very good at bringing her characters to life. In a short story you've only got a limited amount of time to grab your reader by the balls and keep their interest.

 
Epiphany 2009-05-17 02:53:39 PM  
ChickenTits: Epiphany: All this talk about the death of the GOP cracks me up. It wasn't that long ago that the Republicans were in charge of everything, and nobody was claiming the death of the donkey party. This will all work itself out, and the Republicans will gain control again, and then the Democrats again, and then the Republicans, and so on and so on.

If Republicans make a comeback, the party is going to look a hell of a lot more different than it does now.


There are a shiatload of Republicans that aren't stupid ass super fundamentalists, those guys are just the loudest and the easiest for the news media to pinpoint. Like the Democrats, there are all types. Eventually the Democrats will fark up, or the Republicans will get someone with a super celebrity type media hype going for them, or something will happen, but they will regain power. It always works that way in this country.

Bucky Katt: Weaver95: Epiphany: All this talk about the death of the GOP cracks me up. It wasn't that long ago that the Republicans were in charge of everything, and nobody was claiming the death of the donkey party. This will all work itself out, and the Republicans will gain control again, and then the Democrats again, and then the Republicans, and so on and so on.

i'm not so sure the Republicans will survive their quiet little inter-party civil war. It's looking like they'll purge the moderates and fiscal conservatives from the party and move waaaay to the right. Which will alienate a good bit of the country. I don't see them maintaining a hold on many national level offices that way.

Whig Part anyone?


In my profile it says I'm a "soon to be whig" but that's all barring who the Republicans next Presidential nomination is. I really don't think we're stupid enough to nominate Palin, but if that's what the party chooses to do I'll be getting off at the next stop.

 
Kurmudgeon 2009-05-17 02:54:02 PM  
"and the Republicans will gain control again"

Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it. The only thing that changes when the GOP controls is how much more they deficit spend and how many flag covered coffins they create.

 
Shadowknight [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-05-17 02:54:53 PM  
ghare: Don't we all wish.

Only if his home is a prison cell in some deep, dark hole with no escape...

Wait, actually, he would probably like that. Thrive like fungus there, since he was spawned in the pits of hell. Ok, put him in a small, well lit room full of teddy bears and "My Little Pony" wallpaper.

 
GodsTumor 2009-05-17 02:55:11 PM  
Unless the GOP changes their hard line stance on many issues I don't see them coming back into power. The younger voting generation doesn't seem to be buying into their B.S.(pro-religion, anti-science)! And the Hispanic population which seems to favor the Dem's is multiplying much faster than the red-necks in the Bible belt states.

 
Epiphany 2009-05-17 02:56:42 PM  
I also think you guys are putting way too much faith that the Democrats won Congress and the Presidency instead of the Republicans farking it up and handing them away. Democrats aren't immune to farking up either.

 
Tor_Eckman [TotalFark] 2009-05-17 02:57:57 PM  
dySWN: Epiphany: All this talk about the death of the GOP cracks me up. It wasn't that long ago that the Republicans were in charge of everything, and nobody was claiming the death of the donkey party. This will all work itself out, and the Republicans will gain control again, and then the Democrats again, and then the Republicans, and so on and so on.

This.

Also, one has to wonder how this whole anti-Cheny thing is any different from the anti-Pelosi thing, or any political witch hunt for that matter.


You can't be serious. One of those people you named was instrumental in getting us into a war of choice with Iraq, totally screwing it up resulting in deaths numbering in the hundreds of thousands and costing what will be trillions of dollars before it's all said and done.

Plus, he was likely responsible for installing a policy of systematic torture of people we captured during our little mid-east adventures.

Meanwhile, Nancy Pelosi is ugly.

So ya, no difference there.

 
Weaver95 [TotalFark] 2009-05-17 02:59:48 PM  
GodsTumor: Unless the GOP changes their hard line stance on many issues I don't see them coming back into power. The younger voting generation doesn't seem to be buying into their B.S.(pro-religion, anti-science)! And the Hispanic population which seems to favor the Dem's is multiplying much faster than the red-necks in the Bible belt states.

it's not even the anti-science bit that turns off younger voters. it's the blatant pro-corporate/anti-small business attitude that kills interest. Why would a younger voter want to sign on to support a party that thinks RIAA/MPAA is doing wonderful work? why help a party that's going to quash net neutrality and help telecommunications corporations slap a meter on the internet and dole out web surfing like they do cell phone minutes?

 
vabeard 2009-05-17 03:01:36 PM  
well, that was dumb.

 
Weaver95 [TotalFark] 2009-05-17 03:01:49 PM  
Epiphany: I also think you guys are putting way too much faith that the Democrats won Congress and the Presidency instead of the Republicans farking it up and handing them away. Democrats aren't immune to farking up either.

yeah, but right now the Republicans are so disorganized and fractured that even if the Democrats royally farked up beyond all belief, they couldn't take advantage of it. And the ENTIRE country distrusts the Republican party now. And I don't see the Republicans doing anything at all to regain the trust of the voters.

 
ChickenTits 2009-05-17 03:02:19 PM  
Epiphany: I also think you guys are putting way too much faith that the Democrats won Congress and the Presidency instead of the Republicans farking it up and handing them away. Democrats aren't immune to farking up either.

Young voters aren't exactly flocking towards the republicans. The party is becoming marginalized at an epic rate while it's leaders are cheerleading the same dumbass social policies that scare off new potential members.

 
Epiphany 2009-05-17 03:02:30 PM  
Weaver95: GodsTumor: Unless the GOP changes their hard line stance on many issues I don't see them coming back into power. The younger voting generation doesn't seem to be buying into their B.S.(pro-religion, anti-science)! And the Hispanic population which seems to favor the Dem's is multiplying much faster than the red-necks in the Bible belt states.

it's not even the anti-science bit that turns off younger voters. it's the blatant pro-corporate/anti-small business attitude that kills interest. Why would a younger voter want to sign on to support a party that thinks RIAA/MPAA is doing wonderful work? why help a party that's going to quash net neutrality and help telecommunications corporations slap a meter on the internet and dole out web surfing like they do cell phone minutes?


Not all Republicans think that, and not all Democrats think the other way. I think you're focusing way too much on what the left-wing media (aka mainstream media) is hyping, a long with a ton of coincidences. I can't stand Fox News or CNN anymore, so I go to the BBC for my news. Plus they talk funny over there.

 
40below [TotalFark] 2009-05-17 03:03:55 PM  
GodsTumor: The younger voting generation doesn't seem to be buying into their B.S.(pro-religion, anti-science)!

The younger generation doesn't vote, and when it does, tends to put down its copy of Atlas Shrugged only to waste a vote on Ron Paul, so it's not what people consider a real important demographic.

 
Epiphany 2009-05-17 03:04:06 PM  
ChickenTits: Epiphany: I also think you guys are putting way too much faith that the Democrats won Congress and the Presidency instead of the Republicans farking it up and handing them away. Democrats aren't immune to farking up either.

Young voters aren't exactly flocking towards the republicans. The party is becoming marginalized at an epic rate while it's leaders are cheerleading the same dumbass social policies that scare off new potential members.


Young voters weren't exactly flocking to the Democratic party either. Young voters flocked to a man, Obama, not the entire party. They also flocked away from the farkups of Bush. There was a time not long ago it was the other way around. It'll be like that again, no matter how much the news media claims otherwise.

 
agoratrader 2009-05-17 03:04:14 PM  
That was lame. A Farker could have done much better.

 
Bigger Leftist Intarweb Schlong 2009-05-17 03:05:02 PM  
Weaver95: it's not even the anti-science bit that turns off younger voters. it's the blatant pro-corporate/anti-small business attitude that kills interest. Why would a younger voter want to sign on to support a party that thinks RIAA/MPAA is doing wonderful work? why help a party that's going to quash net neutrality and help telecommunications corporations slap a meter on the internet and dole out web surfing like they do cell phone minutes?

You forgot to mention that we farking hate Bush and his cohorts with a passion.

That's very important-- don't leave it out.

 
Weaver95 [TotalFark] 2009-05-17 03:05:36 PM  
Epiphany: Not all Republicans think that, and not all Democrats think the other way. I think you're focusing way too much on what the left-wing media (aka mainstream media) is hyping, a long with a ton of coincidences. I can't stand Fox News or CNN anymore, so I go to the BBC for my news. Plus they talk funny over there.

I'm just telling you what the Republican leadership sees as the future direction of the Republican party. the issues the Republican leadership want to focus on have almost NOTHING in common with the interests of fiscal conservatism or free market economics. And the party itself lost the respect and trust of it's voters when Bush ignored the party platform and bailed out wall street. More and more voters are starting to realize that there is nothing to salvage from the Republican party and there's been a slow bleed of talent and money from the organization. I see that trend only accelerating in the future.

 
GodsTumor 2009-05-17 03:06:52 PM  
Weaver95:

it's not even the anti-science bit that turns off younger voters. it's the blatant pro-corporate/anti-small business attitude that kills interest. Why would a younger voter want to sign on to support a party that thinks RIAA/MPAA is doing wonderful work? why help a party that's going to quash net neutrality and help telecommunications corporations slap a meter on the internet and dole out web surfing like they do cell phone minutes?


Yes, not to mention tax them more(unless in the top 5%). They seem to see through the party of, for and by the rich unlike past generations whom were easily duped!

 
SomebodyElsesShoes 2009-05-17 03:06:56 PM  
agoratrader: That was lame. A Farker could have done much better.

Good point, I couldn't even identify any song titles, tv shows or horses hidden in the text.

 
ChickenTits 2009-05-17 03:07:14 PM  
40below: GodsTumor: The younger voting generation doesn't seem to be buying into their B.S.(pro-religion, anti-science)!

The younger generation doesn't vote, and when it does, tends to put down its copy of Atlas Shrugged only to waste a vote on Ron Paul, so it's not what people consider a real important demographic.


You, like Galt, are an incredible dick.

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1031/young-voters-in-the-2008-election

 
yelmrog 2009-05-17 03:07:19 PM  
Weaver95
it's not even the anti-science bit that turns off younger voters. it's the blatant pro-corporate/anti-small business attitude that kills interest. Why would a younger voter want to sign on to support a party that thinks RIAA/MPAA is doing wonderful work? why help a party that's going to quash net neutrality and help telecommunications corporations slap a meter on the internet and dole out web surfing like they do cell phone minutes?

This, this, this, and more this.

 
Weaver95 [TotalFark] 2009-05-17 03:08:50 PM  
GodsTumor: Weaver95:

it's not even the anti-science bit that turns off younger voters. it's the blatant pro-corporate/anti-small business attitude that kills interest. Why would a younger voter want to sign on to support a party that thinks RIAA/MPAA is doing wonderful work? why help a party that's going to quash net neutrality and help telecommunications corporations slap a meter on the internet and dole out web surfing like they do cell phone minutes?

Yes, not to mention tax them more(unless in the top 5%). They seem to see through the party of, for and by the rich unlike past generations whom were easily duped!


There is very little of interest to the younger generation in the Republican party. Anyone under the age of 50 really doesn't belong there anymore.

 
ChickenTits 2009-05-17 03:11:12 PM  
Epiphany: ChickenTits: Epiphany: I also think you guys are putting way too much faith that the Democrats won Congress and the Presidency instead of the Republicans farking it up and handing them away. Democrats aren't immune to farking up either.

Young voters aren't exactly flocking towards the republicans. The party is becoming marginalized at an epic rate while it's leaders are cheerleading the same dumbass social policies that scare off new potential members.

Young voters weren't exactly flocking to the Democratic party either. Young voters flocked to a man, Obama, not the entire party. They also flocked away from the farkups of Bush. There was a time not long ago it was the other way around. It'll be like that again, no matter how much the news media claims otherwise.


Younger voters don't give a shiat about the social issues the republicans are trying to beat peoples brains out with. It's not just Obama, he was just a bonus, but the message the conservatives are barfing all over an increasingly more socially liberal country.

 
Epiphany 2009-05-17 03:11:43 PM  
Weaver95: Epiphany: Not all Republicans think that, and not all Democrats think the other way. I think you're focusing way too much on what the left-wing media (aka mainstream media) is hyping, a long with a ton of coincidences. I can't stand Fox News or CNN anymore, so I go to the BBC for my news. Plus they talk funny over there.

I'm just telling you what the Republican leadership sees as the future direction of the Republican party. the issues the Republican leadership want to focus on have almost NOTHING in common with the interests of fiscal conservatism or free market economics. And the party itself lost the respect and trust of it's voters when Bush ignored the party platform and bailed out wall street. More and more voters are starting to realize that there is nothing to salvage from the Republican party and there's been a slow bleed of talent and money from the organization. I see that trend only accelerating in the future.


I'll bet you consider Limbaugh a leader of the Republican party. I'm going to wager a guess that a majority of Republicans feel the opposite. Whatever CNN says though, go ahead and believe it. I'm a 23 year old Republican that can't stand Fox News or Limbaugh, and guess what, there are a lot more like me. There are also a lot that do, but that's ok, because the Democrats have crazies that some of them follow as well.

 
Epiphany 2009-05-17 03:12:58 PM  
ChickenTits: Epiphany: ChickenTits: Epiphany: I also think you guys are putting way too much faith that the Democrats won Congress and the Presidency instead of the Republicans farking it up and handing them away. Democrats aren't immune to farking up either.

Young voters aren't exactly flocking towards the republicans. The party is becoming marginalized at an epic rate while it's leaders are cheerleading the same dumbass social policies that scare off new potential members.

Young voters weren't exactly flocking to the Democratic party either. Young voters flocked to a man, Obama, not the entire party. They also flocked away from the farkups of Bush. There was a time not long ago it was the other way around. It'll be like that again, no matter how much the news media claims otherwise.

Younger voters don't give a shiat about the social issues the republicans are trying to beat peoples brains out with. It's not just Obama, he was just a bonus, but the message the conservatives are barfing all over an increasingly more socially liberal country.


Yeah, and Religion is going away too right? Nevermind the fact that a large majority of the people in this country is religious, a slight drop in the percentage makes it so! This is the same whargarbblllll in all the left wing media and in 90 percent of the posts on fark. Just because there are a lot of people saying that in those places doesn't make it the truth.

 
Bigger Leftist Intarweb Schlong 2009-05-17 03:13:23 PM  
Epiphany: a 23 year old Republican

What the fark is WRONG with you, seriously

Go Independent, for the love of God, and stop giving those farkers any legitimacy. Anyone under the age of 30 who remains a Republican after the last 8 years needs a good biatchslap in the face.

 
GodsTumor 2009-05-17 03:14:05 PM  
40below:

The younger generation doesn't vote, and when it does, tends to put down its copy of Atlas Shrugged only to waste a vote on Ron Paul, so it's not what people consider a real important demographic.


Not in huge numbers but as they get older they they will vote in high percentages...
(It's like GM and their sales of Buick...how many Buick's do you see in a college campus? Now what are the odds that the college kid will buy a Buick any time soon after leaving college?)
/some brands just won't sell even if they improve!

 
Tsunami Ditka 2009-05-17 03:15:09 PM  
Epiphany: Young voters flocked to a man, Obama, not the entire party.

Which is why they retook Congress in '06 and got spanked all over the map in '08?

 
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