Ah. The British NITWIT Party.
This explains why "My Head Up Dubya's Ass" got re-elected.
The alternatives are even crazier.

Awesome.

This sounds familiar...

Another shot in the same set shows a black man working alongside white colleagues - but the racist BNP didn't use that one.

British logic is weird. If you don't pick the black guy, you're racist.

Etchy333: Another shot in the same set shows a black man working alongside white colleagues - but the racist BNP didn't use that one.

British logic is weird. If you don't pick the black guy, you're racist.

Um, no, they didn't pick the black guy BECAUSE they're racist, not the other way around.

The British National Party is whites-only.

The British National Party exists to secure a future for the indigenous peoples of these islands in the North Atlantic which have been our homeland for millennia.

We use the term indigenous to describe the people whose ancestors were the earliest settlers here after the last great Ice Age and which have been complemented by the historic migrations from mainland Europe.

Translation: If you're not an Anglo-Saxon, you're not welcome.

hire American models for the ad campaign

You could tell by the teeth.

The BNP is an ignorant bunch of thugs led by a few devious liars. Think KKK and you are in the same ballpark.

Scum. Ignorant, idiotic scum.

even the Daily Mail is against the BNP

/most of the time

Etchy333: Another shot in the same set shows a black man working alongside white colleagues - but the racist BNP didn't use that one.

British logic is weird. If you don't pick the black guy, you're racist.

The British National Party is literally whites-only. They've kicked members out after discovering non-white ancestors three or four generations back. You don't know what you're defending.

But the article isn't saying that they're racists because they didn't select the photo. It's saying that they're racists (obvious), and that they didn't select the photo.

Anyway, the BNP is a crazy fringe party, not a major party in British politics. They're not completely in the electoral wilderness anymore, controlling some local council seats, but they're not anywhere near winning a seat in Parliament anywhere. Although the appropriately named Barking looks dangerous next time around.

only this country could better than one.

I see the ironic tag got a redundancy.

Verrai:

The British National Party is literally whites-only. They've kicked members out after discovering non-white ancestors three or four generations back. You don't know what you're defending.



That's hilarious, I wonder what a racist does when they discover they are what they hate though. Do they decide they must become lazy, stupid, shiftless and try to fornicate with white women?

The BNP are the asshats claiming Britain's most recent winner of the Victoria Cross only got it because he was black:

The vile BNP denounced brave Johnson Beharry for being "an immigrant" and tried to belittle his heroics - which saved the lives of 30 comrades - as no more than "routine".In a sick rant on its website the far-right BNP - headed by Nick Griffin - allege Lance Corporal Beharry only got Britain's top military honour because of "positive discrimination by the PC-mad government".

Our revelation comes just days after the extremist group held an Armed Forces Awareness Day in a shameless bid to portray themselves "the only party that supports our troops". The truth is that Grenada-born Beharry, then a private, was honoured in 2005 after TWICE saving colleagues' lives under enemy fire.

When his Warrior armoured vehicle was hit by rocket- propelled grenades he drove through the ambush and pulled comrades clear of the burning wreckage while a bullet penetrated his helmet. Weeks later, he was at the wheel again when a grenade detonated inches from him. Despite blood pouring from his head, he reversed out of range before collapsing.

Despite that, the spiteful BNP claim: "All he did was drive away very fast from a combat zone. . . to safety, as have hundreds and hundreds of other British soldiers."

According to the article they used a stock photo, that's a bit different then hiring the models exclusively for the shoot.

Verrai:

The British National Party is literally whites-only. They've kicked members out after discovering non-white ancestors three or four generations back. You don't know what you're defending.




So... if they were to discover that every person on Earth were descended from a small group of about 2,000 black-skinned folks who migrated out of what is now East Africa, would they have to kick *everyone* out of their party?

/just asking.
//hypthetically.
///well, maybe not hypothetically.

The BNP are a bunch of (dangerous, neo-Nazi) wankers. Far from the sharpest tools in the box, too.

Here is their last anti-immigration poster:



It's just that, you know, they used a Polish spitfire to protest against immigration. Dumbasses

A must see documentary for anyone interested in UK politics and especially the Far-Right:

Young, Nazi and Proud

The BNP is in a tough situation. They're trying to defend their homeland against foreign invasion, rampant immigrant rape (something that's not discouraged in Muslim culture), abuse of public funds (welfare or "the dole") by immigrants, terrorist crime (remember those bus bombings?) and the takeover of their homelands and culture by Muslims (who are buying up and converting centuries-old cathedrals and converting them to mosques).

They're doing all of this in spite of the fact that Europe does not enjoy freedom of speech as we do in the U.S. (there are laws against "inciting" racial hatred) and the news media reviles them, as we've read here. The BNP has become the whipping boy to politicians and public figures. To be on their roles takes some real courage. I see no problem with people working to maintain their ancestral homeland.

Buh-buh-but I thought I only Americans had problems with racism in their country!

roberticvs: The BNP has become the whipping boy to politicians and public figures

Yeah, it's funny how being racist f*ckheads will do that. Go ask some Neo-Nazi skins about that.

I don't equate the ignorance and xenophobia they not only display but positively ooze with heroism, however.

roberticvs: The BNP is in a tough situation. They're trying to defend their homeland against foreign invasion, rampant immigrant rape (something that's not discouraged in Muslim culture), abuse of public funds (welfare or "the dole") by immigrants, terrorist crime (remember those bus bombings?) and the takeover of their homelands and culture by Muslims (who are buying up and converting centuries-old cathedrals and converting them to mosques).

They're doing all of this in spite of the fact that Europe does not enjoy freedom of speech as we do in the U.S. (there are laws against "inciting" racial hatred) and the news media reviles them, as we've read here. The BNP has become the whipping boy to politicians and public figures. To be on their roles takes some real courage. I see no problem with people working to maintain their ancestral homeland.

I think you forgot your picture in your profile

40below: Yeah, it's funny how being racist f*ckheads will do that. Go ask some Neo-Nazi skins about that.



"My name is Nick Griffin, head of the BNP. I am not a fat, fascist neo-Nazi pig, trust me."

It's not their fault; full smiles are something Britain has to import.

WE TUK DER JERBS!

Reminds me of the "made in China" flag flying American patriots.

MeanJean: Buh-buh-but I thought I only Americans had problems with racism in their country!

Apples and oranges. Britain never imported many slaves, didn't have Jim Crow laws 100 years after slavery, and refused when American troops insisted on segregated restaurants and clubs in Britain during WWII (or was that France?).

HighOnCraic: MeanJean: Buh-buh-but I thought I only Americans had problems with racism in their country!

Apples and oranges. Britain never imported many slaves, didn't have Jim Crow laws 100 years after slavery, and refused when American troops insisted on segregated restaurants and clubs in Britain during WWII (or was that France?).

Remember that time that all the jews were kicked off the Island? Those 5 times it happened?

Nope. No racism there.

Ahh, crap, superfail on my part. I guess I'm not up to speed on my British white supremacist groups. Didn't know they were basically the Klan.

HighOnCraic: Apples and oranges. Britain never imported many slaves, didn't have Jim Crow laws 100 years after slavery, and refused when American troops insisted on segregated restaurants and clubs in Britain during WWII (or was that France?).

Yeah, it's not like the British Empire laid wastes on "savages" and used imperialistic policies to exploit them.

Tatsuma: HighOnCraic: Apples and oranges. Britain never imported many slaves, didn't have Jim Crow laws 100 years after slavery, and refused when American troops insisted on segregated restaurants and clubs in Britain during WWII (or was that France?).

Yeah, it's not like the British Empire laid wastes on "savages" and used imperialistic policies to exploit them.

Hey, it's not like I'm defending British honour, I'm just saying their domestic history isn't quite the same.

Hell, I lived in Ireland for a few years, so the last thing I wanna do is gloss over the bad effects of British imperialism.

HighOnCraic

Apples and oranges. Britain never imported many slaves, didn't have Jim Crow laws 100 years after slavery, and refused when American troops insisted on segregated restaurants and clubs in Britain during WWII (or was that France?).

At least we acknowledge that we have problems and take steps to correct them. Or are you telling me that black soccer (oh sorry, "football")players aren't harassed by spectators all over Europe? Or that Britain didn't mistreat anyone because of their skin color in China or India or any of the other countries they conquered?

Give me a break.

Would you want to look at British people? I mean for every Hugh Grant their are lke 25-30 ugly bastards

Tatsuma: HighOnCraic: Apples and oranges. Britain never imported many slaves, didn't have Jim Crow laws 100 years after slavery, and refused when American troops insisted on segregated restaurants and clubs in Britain during WWII (or was that France?).

Yeah, it's not like the British Empire laid wastes on "savages" and used imperialistic policies to exploit them.

They were heathens and we were civilising them for their own benefit. That's different.

HighOnCraic: I'm just saying their domestic history isn't quite the same.

It's kind of ridiculous to lambast America for behavior during WWII outside of America and ignore the UK's long history of racist imperialist policies.

Anyway, can we stop the "Who's worse" contest between America and the U.K. and instead focus on how the neo-Nazi BNP members and supporters are scum?

MeanJean: HighOnCraic

Apples and oranges. Britain never imported many slaves, didn't have Jim Crow laws 100 years after slavery, and refused when American troops insisted on segregated restaurants and clubs in Britain during WWII (or was that France?).

At least we acknowledge that we have problems and take steps to correct them. Or are you telling me that black soccer (oh sorry, "football")players aren't harassed by spectators all over Europe? Or that Britain didn't mistreat anyone because of their skin color in China or India or any of the other countries they conquered?

Give me a break.

Again, you're making a huge mistake if you're assuming I'm pro-British (the "craic" in my name is the Irish word for "good times"). I'm just saying there was less de facto discrimination (housing codicils, voting restrictions, separate facilities, etc.) in England than in America.

And yes, Britain badly mistreated its colonies, and that part shouldn't be ignored. I was just talking about their domestic policies.

/And trust me, Europeans, even in small towns in remote areas, are pretty friendly towards black people, in my limited experience. I don't know if I'd say the same about some small towns in America (note, some, not all).

If they take this thing seriously, they must concede that the English and Scots are not authentically "British."

For those of you not keeping score, the island is called Britain. It contains Wales, England, and Scotland.

The Angles and Saxons "immigrated" in the 500s AD. During Julius Caesar's time, during the Roman occupation of southern Britain, the ancestors of the Scottish people still were all in Ireland. Scotland was occupied by the Picts, who were wiped out. Much of northern England was occupied by Vikings, "danelaw" place names still abound there. Only the Welsh are original occupants, driven into the rainy, hilly, less desirable real estate by waves of invaders.

An Authentic BNP would want to drive out the English and Scots, leaving the whole island for the Welsh.

That said, the left wing is doing everything in its power to create discontent with its pc nonsense. When they rewrite Robin Hood does for multi-ethnic, multi-racial equality, they should not be surprised that their countrymen grumble into their pints.

MeanJean: Or are you telling me that black soccer (oh sorry, "football")players aren't harassed by spectators all over Europe?

All over Europe is Madrid, Rome and the Balkans?

'Oo let all this riff-raff into the room?

/about to get tossed out for looking Jewish
/and smoking a joint
/happy to report that I have no spots.

HighOnCraic

Again, you're making a huge mistake if you're assuming I'm pro-British (the "craic" in my name is the Irish word for "good times"). I'm just saying there was less de facto discrimination (housing codicils, voting restrictions, separate facilities, etc.) in England than in America.

That's simply because they didn't have a lot of non-white people living there, not because they are more magnanimous. Its just an accident of history that it didn't happen in England as well as the United States.

Tatsuma: HighOnCraic: I'm just saying their domestic history isn't quite the same.

It's kind of ridiculous to lambast America for behavior during WWII outside of America and ignore the UK's long history of racist imperialist policies.

It's fair to say that Britain's imperialism was very, very bad (again, I spent many years studying church history in Ireland, and I'm on the Sinn Fein mailing list). It's also fair to say that they progressed in ways that took longer for America. They ended slavery sooner, and without a civil war, and they never had government restrictions against minority voting (as far as I know).

And I still think it's a valid point that when American troops were stationed in Europe during WWII (you know, the fight to spread freedom and all that), they insisted that certain Southern customs be adhered to in England and France--customs that not even all Americans followed at the time.

HighOnCraic

They ended slavery sooner, and without a civil war,

The fact that they didn't have huge plantations that require a lot of manpower is the reason for that.

HighOnCraic:

/And trust me, Europeans, even in small towns in remote areas, are pretty friendly towards black people, in my limited experience.


It's common practice to throw bananas and make monkey noises at black sports players in Europe.

MeanJean: HighOnCraic

They ended slavery sooner, and without a civil war,

The fact that they didn't have huge plantations that require a lot of manpower is the reason for that.

I'm sticking by my original point. We started off with MeanJean: Buh-buh-but I thought I only Americans had problems with racism in their country! and I replied "Apples and oranges." Some people shot back with "What about British imperialism?" which is a valid complaint, but the brutalities of their imperialism didn't take place in their country.

Seriously, what part of "Apples and oranges" implied that one place was superior to the other?


/Fun fact: the first "concentration camps" were run by British troops during the Boer War in South Africa. The camps killed almost as many Dutch/Boers as the War itself.

MeanJean: The fact that they didn't have huge plantations that require a lot of manpower is the reason for that

Never seen the gardens around an English country house, huh? Your economic argument fails.

HighOnCraic: /Fun fact: the first "concentration camps" were run by British troops during the Boer War in South Africa. The camps killed almost as many Dutch/Boers as the War itself.

Only because the Boer families were sheltering and aiding what would come to be known as the first insurgent army. They had it coming.

BleedPinstripes: HighOnCraic:

/And trust me, Europeans, even in small towns in remote areas, are pretty friendly towards black people, in my limited experience.


It's common practice to throw bananas and make monkey noises at black sports players in Europe.

Shenanigans! Yes, it happens, but it's hardly common practice.

This makes sense. British people generally look weird. I mean, Mr. Bean is a sex symbol over there.

Tatsuma: Anyway, can we stop the "Who's worse" contest between America and the U.K. and instead focus on how the neo-Nazi BNP members and supporters are scum?

Yay, I agree with Tatsuma on something!

Here's a couple of news sources to keep discussion on track:

Sharia Law supplanting British law:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article4749183.ece

Dutch girls stoned to death by Muslims:
http://europenews.dk/en/node/22732

Norway experiencing rape epidemic. Citizens not allowed to protest because it would be considered "inciting racial hatred" (a blog, but has some quality links):
http://fjordman.blogspot.com/2005/02/muslim-rape-epidemic-in-sweden-and.html

Offhand, I'd say the BNP has a very good reason to want to maintain a distinct Western culture, wouldn't you?

Also, some of you might want to narrow your focus instead of broadening it to extremes such as "Britain's colonial record" or "American racism vs. British racism" et.al. Such arguments result in "meta-discussion" which is pointless.