sooner or later people are going to realize that we're not living in the country everyone THINKS we're living in....

I was in an accident on the beltway last week and got a ticket for not wearing my seatbelt. I was probably the only one on the entire beltway not speeding by over 10 mph but I get the freaking ticket for not wearing my seatbelt. I only ended up with a small bit of paint on my fender from one of the other cars.

I hope to hell the asshole in the Prius that caused the whole thing got his ass handed to him. A cop was in the car right behind me so he saw the whole thing. I took the $25 seatbelt fine happily but if I had to get fingerprinted because of the douchebag I would have drug him out of the Prius and kicked his ass as I was tempted to do anyway. Without looking tried to cut across three lanes of traffic to get into the ramp lane and took four cars with him.

You get the government you deserve.

Gwendolyn: I was in an accident on the beltway last week and got a ticket for not wearing my seatbelt. I was probably the only one on the entire beltway not speeding by over 10 mph but I get the freaking ticket for not wearing my seatbelt. I only ended up with a small bit of paint on my fender from one of the other cars.

I hope to hell the asshole in the Prius that caused the whole thing got his ass handed to him. A cop was in the car right behind me so he saw the whole thing. I took the $25 seatbelt fine happily but if I had to get fingerprinted because of the douchebag I would have drug him out of the Prius and kicked his ass as I was tempted to do anyway. Without looking tried to cut across three lanes of traffic to get into the ramp lane and took four cars with him.



So that was you behind me. Sorry

Wow. Can we say bad idea folks?

seatbelt laws piss me off. nothing but a handout to the insurance lobbyists. it's not about your safety it's their liability.
if it was about safety they'd outlaw motorcycles.

Airfoilsguy:
So that was you behind me. Sorry

If you are the driver of the blue Prius I'd like to have a word with you outside. lol

I say we just bypass the middle man in all this and just have everyone wear GPS tracking devices at all times. It's for everones safety.

Hobodeluxe: seatbelt laws piss me off. nothing but a handout to the insurance lobbyists. it's not about your safety it's their liability.
if it was about safety they'd outlaw motorcycles.

Motorcyclists who are take a course and are trained properly have less than half the fatal accident rate of auto drivers.

But let's outlaw them anyway, yea!

Remind me to never go to that shiathole called Tennessee.

/like anyone would by choice

In the interests of expanding the police state, butt prints would make a much better identifier. Both the officer and the speeder would exchange butt prints when the ticket is written. Of course, unmarked police cars would be hard to hide, since a trailer is required just to carry the paper work.

Weaver95: sooner or later people are going to realize that we're not living in the country everyone THINKS we're living in....

United Kingdom?
/wanna grab a pint then pick up a doner?

2wolves: You get the government you deserve.



This is the hope and change you libby moonbats wanted. Enjoy it

Man, Police Departments are crazy hot to trot on this whole fingerprinting thing.

Sure it would make their job a whole lot easier, but talk about constitutional rights violations.....

bacccc: Remind me to never go to that shiathole called Tennessee.

/like anyone would by choice

Never go to that shiathole called Tennessee.

Hobodeluxe: seatbelt laws piss me off. nothing but a handout to the insurance lobbyists. it's not about your safety it's their liability.
if it was about safety they'd outlaw motorcycles.
Spoken by someone who's never been head-on'd by a drunk.
/Yes, the drunk ended up on my windshield.
//probably would've swapped cars if I wasn't wearing one.

This is not enough. Driving is not a right, it is a privilege.

They need to take collect the DNA of speeders. Make it federal.

Already gave them up in order to carry a handgun concealed. Oh well.

EVERYBODY PANIC

Welcome to Obama's version of Bush's America, libcons.

buk110: This is the hope and change you libby moonbats wanted. Enjoy it

This just in, Obama controls the Tennessee legislature by secret mindwaves.

PROTIP: "Proposed" does not equal "signed into law". You found the bill out. Nice work. Now shame it into defeat.

Weaver95: sooner or later people are going to realize that we're not living in the country everyone THINKS we're living in....

And it will be too late to do anything about it. Or maybe it already is.

"As long as the police department is ensuring that it will not create a database using the fingerprints collected on traffic citations and that those fingerprints will be used only to identify the person being stopped and for no other purposes," Weinberg said, "then the police department appears to be using the technology appropriately."

Well hey, if the police are promising they won't abuse their power, what's the problem?

Donald_McRonald: buk110: This is the hope and change you libby moonbats wanted. Enjoy it

This just in, Obama controls the Tennessee legislature by secret mindwaves.

The Messiah is omniscient and omnipresent, dur.

DNA and Fingerprints are far to slow.

Everyone needs to be outfitted with GPS locators and personal video recorders that upload your crimes to the internet.

You could be indicted, judged and sentenced before you even arrived home to find the fax telling you you were under arrest.

Donald_McRonald: This just in, Obama controls the Tennessee legislature by secret mindwaves.

Well actually the Free Masons do, but now you're just nitpicking

buk110: 2wolves: You get the government you deserve.



This is the hope and change you libby moonbats wanted. Enjoy it

McCain also promised to fingerprint speeders during his campaign. Lesser of two evils

buk110: This is the hope and change you libby moonbats wanted. Enjoy it

Yes, because Barack Obama is in the Tennessee state legislature.

Big farking deal, when you get pulled over they run you anyways so what's the farking difference? The only thing this is going to do is help solve crimes.

archichris:

You could be indicted, judged and sentenced before you even arrived home to find the fax telling you you were under arrest.



The justice system works quickly in the future now that they've abolished all lawyers!

Gwendolyn:

When the original seat belt law was enacted here, the politicians swore up-and-down that they would never actually pull you over for the infraction. It would only ever be added to something you already did wrong.

Count forward five years and they now pull you over for that and that alone. They now stand by stop signs on the grass looking at you through your windshield. If you're not playing, they call ahead and have you ticketed. Here, it's about 90 bucks.

It has nothing to do with safety and all to do with making a ton of money.

Karma Chameleon: Donald_McRonald: buk110: This is the hope and change you libby moonbats wanted. Enjoy it

This just in, Obama controls the Tennessee legislature by secret mindwaves.

The Messiah is omniscient and omnipresent, dur.

If there were a conservative in office(hell if we had had a conservative on the republican ticket last time) then you would not get this law past the supreme court because the conservative president would have appointed someone who would protect your constitutional rights from progressive 'creep'.

However given the probable appointment of a progressive who believes the constitution is an antiquated document not designed to stomp out the opposing political party, you can bet that this law would be upheld.

Bek: Hobodeluxe: seatbelt laws piss me off. nothing but a handout to the insurance lobbyists. it's not about your safety it's their liability.
if it was about safety they'd outlaw motorcycles.

Motorcyclists who are take a course and are trained properly have less than half the fatal accident rate of auto drivers.

But let's outlaw them anyway, yea!

I think you missed the point. He wasn't suggestion that motorcycles should be outlawed, but that seat belt laws aren't about safety.

NH doesn't have a seat belt law, nor does it have a helmet law.

/I despise heavy handed government tactics like this, because after they print you, they have to run the prints, and while that's going on, they get to sniff around your car and cite you for other crap, because they won't be able to ticket as many cars in a day, they'll hit one car for more things. This will inevitably lead to more warrantless searches, because people don't know about the 4th amendment.

archichris: Everyone needs to be outfitted with GPS locators and personal video recorders that upload your crimes to the internet.

I don't think a lot of cops would like wearing those.

Oh, you mean...
Sure. Why not, if it benefits public safety.

Gosling: buk110: This is the hope and change you libby moonbats wanted. Enjoy it

Yes, because Barack Obama is in the Tennessee state legislature.

more like, Barack Obama IS the Tennessee state Legislature

bacccc: Remind me to never go to that shiathole called Tennessee.

/like anyone would by choice

I did. You must be one of those really really cool people from New York or California.

But we've always been at war with Eastasia.

Gosling: PROTIP: "Proposed" does not equal "signed into law". You found the bill out. Nice work. Now shame it into defeat.

From the article:
"The bill has been approved by the state House of Representatives, and senators will vote on the measure Wednesday."

I think this is a little passed the "proposed" stage.

Alex Jones was right.

What are people's hard-on about giving up their fingerprints?



What harm to you does it do? I mean really? It will help catch people who commit crimes. I'm sorry, but I simply don't care if my finger prints are in a database somewhere if it will help catch that guy who raped and killed my sister and left a partial thumbprint(didn't happen, just an example).



There's an argument about 'rights', but I don't see how having your fingerprints in a database is somehow protected rights any more then having your address listed in a database and it's also a stupid 'right' to fight for.

Speaking of this, I haven't heard anything about REAL ID lately. Is that off the table finally?

I'd be upset, except I've been LiveScanned already like 12 times in the last decade for various jobs and volunteer positions. You have to get fingerprinted and background-checked in CA for so many different things, including a thumbprint for your driver's license, they might just as well print us all when we leave high school to save time.

And every job has to have its own LiveScan done; even though all my files are sitting in the same place in Sacramento, none of my employers have access to any of the other employers' scans. At $65 a pop, that adds up to quite a tidy sum for the State of California.

Just give in and let them have your prints. Chances are, someone somewhere has them anyway.

veale728: Gosling: buk110: This is the hope and change you libby moonbats wanted. Enjoy it

Yes, because Barack Obama is in the Tennessee state legislature.

more like, Barack Obama IS the Tennessee state Legislature

I had dinner at the In 'n' Out at the Mercado today, and they left the pickles off my Double Double. Why does Obama think this kind of negligence is acceptable?

Yet ANOTHER reason to avoid the Deep South™.

archichris: DNA and Fingerprints are far to slow.

Everyone needs to be outfitted with GPS locators and personal video recorders that upload your crimes to the internet.

You could be indicted, judged and sentenced before you even arrived home to find the fax telling you you were under arrest.


Fax? Wouldn't they just text you concerning your guilt and then set off the small explosive charge everyone would be required to have implanted at the base of your skull, if they found you guilty?

"As long as the police department is ensuring that it will not create a database using the fingerprints collected on traffic citations and that those fingerprints will be used only to identify the person being stopped and for no other purposes," Weinberg said, "then the police department appears to be using the technology appropriately."

Oh. OK, we pinky swear that we will never abuse this law! After all, pigs NEVER lie.

buk110: 2wolves: You get the government you deserve.



This is the hope and change you libby moonbats wanted. Enjoy it

Oh yea... this is coming from the supporter of the administration that brought about and empowered the Homeland Security. So now any rowdy drunken mom who's has a few too many glasses of wine is listed as a turrrrist and is robbed of her children. Now god forbid they take our fingerprint... guess what?! they probably already have yours.

Weaver95: sooner or later people are going to realize that we're not living in the country everyone THINKS we're living in....

But but "land of the free" :-/

I *HATE* when people talk about how America is somehow "more free" than Europe. When you point to crap like this they start with the "if you don't like it, leave" or "those socialists!". 99% of the time they will confess they have never left their home state much less visited the countries they criticize.

DNRTFA, but it seems everything the gov't does gives it more control over the population. D or R, they all suck.

The article states such procedure is practiced in Wisconsin and Arizona. I doubt the list of states ends there. As fun as it might be to knock Tennessee, the power of government databases is a Kafkaesque wilderness.

In Europe the government is afraid of the people.

In the States, the people are afraid of the government.

/see the difference?
//REAL freedom .... not bullshiat lipservice

FTA: "the bill, which gives police departments the choice of collecting a signature or a fingerprint, or collecting a signature and a fingerprint."

But, will they have the option of collecting a signature or a fingerprint? If not, they should add that option to the bill.