Old news is old.

pics or it isn't happening

a drop in military effi ciency.

Oh dear god not that!!!!!

Yeah? And? If the male soldiers could they would too. Its getting to common to fake having the ghey.

Women are pretty disgusting, as a whole.

Demand equal rights so they can join....and be equal.
Demand lower standards so they can pass their tests....and be equal.
Demand special treatment for their biological urges so they can get out of work....and be equal.

Seriously, disgusting.

Then, you'll have another article in a few months saying how sexist men are in the military because they don't to be fighting next to women.

The military doesn't seem to be ovary concerned.

gadian: Yeah? And? If the male soldiers could they would too. Its getting to common to fake having the ghey.



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in about twelve years they'll be wishing they'd kept their legs together and done their time.

kids are a life sentence without parole.

Fark_Guy_Rob: Women are pretty disgusting, as a whole.


I predict ten bites in 5 minutes.

Women in HQ company on my 1st deployment - 5

Not counting 1 pregnant before the deployment began.

Women completing the tour - 1 She was the CO of HQ company.

also 3 pregnant Iraqi chow hall workers, and 2 pregnant female interpreters. That I knew about.

102 women over eight years and the Star turns it into a thinly-veiled attack on women in the military.

Nice.

/and by "nice" I mean "WTF?"

G2V
I hope so!

I was worried I came off a little too strong, but then I figured, 'eh, it's the weekend, why not?'

Klivian

gadian: Yeah? And? If the male soldiers could they would too. Its getting to common to fake having the ghey.

[pic of Maxwell Q. Klinger]

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Point of order: he was all man, Clyde; the clothes were a dodge.

So, sort of related...is it difficult to continue long term birth control in a warzone? Like, are birth control pills stocked in the med tent? I'd never thought about it.

I never understood this line of reasoning. One year deployment vs. 18+ years of parenting. I'll take the deployment, thanks.

/Female Soldier

Englebert Slaptyback: Klivian

gadian: Yeah? And? If the male soldiers could they would too. Its getting to common to fake having the ghey.

[pic of Maxwell Q. Klinger]

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Point of order: he was all man, Clyde; the clothes were a dodge.

You disappoint me, Padawan, must I remind you of the time Blake terminated Klinger's "pregnancy?"

gadian: So, sort of related...is it difficult to continue long term birth control in a warzone? Like, are birth control pills stocked in the med tent? I'd never thought about it.

I'm going to guess that they don't offer birth control because there's not supposed to be any fraternization, but that's just a guess.

communistsarestupid

Women in HQ company on my 1st deployment - 5

Not counting 1 pregnant before the deployment began.

Women completing the tour - 1 She was the CO of HQ company.

also 3 pregnant Iraqi chow hall workers, and 2 pregnant female interpreters. That I knew about.

Yah, very common.

Dwight_Yeast

102 women over eight years and the Star turns it into a thinly-veiled attack on women in the military.

Nice.

/and by "nice" I mean "WTF?"

Here in the US, if you get a bad sunburn that prevents you for serving for any time, the military can and often will bust you for it. Get pregnant, you get sent back stateside. continue to get military benefits and the time counts towards your time in service.

They should apply the same standard of "anything you do with your body that interferes with your service, you pay for it" to women.

gadian: So, sort of related...is it difficult to continue long term birth control in a warzone? Like, are birth control pills stocked in the med tent? I'd never thought about it.

Condoms and birth control are readily available downrange, for free.

Fark_Guy_Rob: Women are pretty disgusting, as a whole.

Do you know how I know you're ghey?

Homicidalsausage: gadian: So, sort of related...is it difficult to continue long term birth control in a warzone? Like, are birth control pills stocked in the med tent? I'd never thought about it.

Condoms and birth control are readily available downrange, for free.

Well, that is good to know that they're watching out for the women who want to be responsible.

if i could hold only one card it would be the pregency card.
use #1 you will never know the bonding between mother and child
#2 i spent 16 hours in labor having your kid. you would not have survived the pain.
#3 the best part. i decide if the kid is even born but you carry legal responsibilities for the decision.

How about mandatory service for a kid conceived while the mother and/or father was on active duty?

/Think of the quotas!

starlost: if i could hold only one card it would be the pregency card.
use #1 you will never know the bonding between mother and child
#2 i spent 16 hours in labor having your kid. you would not have survived the pain.
#3 the best part. i decide if the kid is even born but you carry legal responsibilities for the decision.

You sound like an Obamatard.

starlost: if i could hold only one card it would be the pregency card.
use #1 you will never know the bonding between mother and child
#2 i spent 16 hours in labor having your kid. you would not have survived the pain.
#3 the best part. i decide if the kid is even born but you carry legal responsibilities for the decision.

Personally, I think number 3 is disgusting. A woman should secure the termination of parental rights before giving birth to a kid the father does not want or she should abort. I have done this and it seems like the only respectable thing to do. Now when men can carry the baby to term in their own bodies, they get to decide if its born when the woman doesn't want it.

I should add that if the father terminates his rights there should be a "no take back" clause. Meaning no involvement with the kid whatsoever for any reason at any time - even when you're on your death bed and regret your decisions. same for women.

Bulging problem in Iraq all branches of the military for the past 30+ years: female soldiers getting pregnant so they'll get shipped home


FTFY.

At least this is one job they haven't outsourced to Halliburton...
USA, USA, USA

Okie Cynic:
in about twelve years they'll be wishing they'd kept their legs together and done their time.

kids are a life sentence without parole.

But with your arms and legs still attached. Could be a lot worse.



I do not view any action a soldier takes to extricate themselves from this bullshiat war to be cowardly or wrong. If your country's war harms your country, avoiding service in it is ultimately a patriotic act.

FarkinHostile: Bulging problem in Iraq all branches of the military for the past 30+ years: female soldiers getting pregnant so they'll get shipped home


FTFY.

Nice to see the Fark sexist brigade is out in force in this thread.

grotto_man: They should apply the same standard of "anything you do with your body that interferes with your service, you pay for it" to women.

Sounds reasonable to me. It's allot easier to not get pregnant than not get a sunburn.

communistsarestupid: Women in HQ company on my 1st deployment - 5

Not counting 1 pregnant before the deployment began.

Women completing the tour - 1 She was the CO of HQ company.

also 3 pregnant Iraqi chow hall workers, and 2 pregnant female interpreters. That I knew about.

You dawg you.

Dwight_Yeast

Nice to see the Fark sexist blunt honesty brigade is out in force in this thread.

Again, FTFY.

Tell the truth, shame the Devil.

What's the matter ladies? Spreading freedom ain't enough? You gotta spread those too?

How many of these pregnancies are intentional? I can't believe that all of them are. Military service in the UK is still voluntary, yes? Why would someone volunteer to the army in wartime and then get preggers to get out of it, especially when women can't fight in combat situations?

I'm not against the rule against women in combat. My brother is an Army Ranger and I would hate for him to get shot because he was worried about the GI Jane in his unit that couldn't hack it once the shiat started.

/not saying women couldn't hack it -- but just in case.

gadian: I should add that if the father terminates his rights there should be a "no take back" clause. Meaning no involvement with the kid whatsoever for any reason at any time - even when you're on your death bed and regret your decisions. same for women.

Well, abortion is usually is a "no take back" scenario...

Dwight_Yeast: Nice to see the Fark sexist brigade is out in force in this thread.

You'd be quite naive to think it doesn't happen.

No Such Agency:
I do not view any action a soldier takes to extricate themselves from this bullshiat war to be cowardly or wrong. If your country's war harms your country, avoiding service in it is ultimately a patriotic act.


So if I come to your house and stab you in the face, that's cool then?

JewZeppy: What's the matter ladies? Spreading freedom ain't enough? You gotta spread those too?

It is! If you think about it, "sexual freedom" is something we're spreading as well!

/okay, I couldn't keep a straight face typing that.
//snort!

cuzsis: gadian: I should add that if the father terminates his rights there should be a "no take back" clause. Meaning no involvement with the kid whatsoever for any reason at any time - even when you're on your death bed and regret your decisions. same for women.

Well, abortion is usually is a "no take back" scenario...
Not in the case of our dear friend Charlie Kelly

Honestly, I think they should just have mandatory abortions.

If you want to be in the military and play with the big boys - you need to keep your legs shut/use protection. Getting knocked up is not a free pass back to the states. You get pregnant...forced abortion.

Don't like it?
1.) Don't get pregnant
2.) Don't join the military

tomcatadam: Dwight_Yeast: Nice to see the Fark sexist brigade is out in force in this thread.

You'd be quite naive to think it doesn't happen.

Never said it didn't, but the obvious subtext is always "This is why we can't let women serve in the military."

If it's really that big an issue (and it's not) we could just Norplant all the female soldiers before we ship them out (remember that it's no longer "your body" once you enlist).

Abortions for all!

These Strong, Smart, and Independent Women® will be Save-A-Hoed by their pimps in government. They always are.

Dwight_Yeast: (remember that it's no longer "your body" once you enlist).

This. Like it or not, these women should not be getting pregnant. Their body is no longer theirs. It's well within the rights of the military to Norplant them. It would be a PR nightmare, but it's within their rights.

Don't agree? You're wrong.

Fark_Guy_Rob: Don't like it?
1.) Don't get pregnant
2.) Don't join the military

3.) Don't get raped.

Dwight_Yeast: If it's really that big an issue (and it's not) we could just Norplant all the female soldiers before we ship them out (remember that it's no longer "your body" once you enlist).

It actually makes sense from an equality standpoint. Male Marines (and I am sure female Marines too) have to get permission from their CO to get married, since they "belong" to the military. I don't think it goes very far beyond that for female members of the military to be required to take precautions not to get impregnated.

Wondering if you are late is distracting. Being distracted will get you or someone in your unit killed.

grotto_man: communistsarestupid

Women in HQ company on my 1st deployment - 5

Not counting 1 pregnant before the deployment began.

Women completing the tour - 1 She was the CO of HQ company.

also 3 pregnant Iraqi chow hall workers, and 2 pregnant female interpreters. That I knew about.

Yah, very common.

Dwight_Yeast

102 women over eight years and the Star turns it into a thinly-veiled attack on women in the military.

Nice.

/and by "nice" I mean "WTF?"

Here in the US, if you get a bad sunburn that prevents you for serving for any time, the military can and often will bust you for it. Get pregnant, you get sent back stateside. continue to get military benefits and the time counts towards your time in service.

They should apply the same standard of "anything you do with your body that interferes with your service, you pay for it" to women.

...what?! If you get knocked up on deployment you get many many articles. The first chick who got sent home (after 4 months in country) was an E5. She returned an E2 and had like 6 months of crap duties as punishment. The father of the child, whom eventually married the chick, got knocked down one rank.

Now, the second chick... that biatch was like 40 years old and HID IT FOR SEVEN MONTHS. We were joking to the 1SG about how she was getting fat... and... yeah she was knocked up. Still smoking, wearing IBA, and all the other good stuff you should not do while preggo. That lady got a dishonorable discharge (and kick out of the Army, too. ba da BING!)

Birth control is very available. they give you 1 years worth of pills or enough depo shots to give yourself every 3 months.

karatekitten13

How many of these pregnancies are intentional? I can't believe that all of them are.


It's not supposed to matter if it is intentional or not.

Get an infection from a bad tattoo and get sent back from deployment: Not intentional, but you did get the tattoo so still Article 15 worthy.

Get a bad sunburn and get sent back from deployment: Not intentional, but you did stay out in the sun too long so still Article 15 worthy.

Get pregnant and get sent back from deployment.......uh, nothing.


Unintentional but avoidable medical conditions are not supposed to be able to be exploited to escape from unpleasant duties.

Just sayin'. But double standards go both ways, so I really don't care all that much. It all evens out in the end.