Not to take any credit on the guy, or any other before and after him. But this is kinda like a id with a new toy, all kids with new toys wanna flash 'em at their friends, so they get jealous and get more popular. But as the time pass, the shine is just not the same.

The same thing will happen with the next latin, asian, mormon, homosexual, bisexual, muslim, budhist, atheist, wiccan, exact cloned replica of Marilyn Monroe, extraterrestrial, and robot presidents.

if y'all would stop panicking he'd stop feeling like he needs to mollify you.

I didn't hear them whining when the political candidates spent 100's of millions of dollars on TV ads.

Holden C: I didn't hear them whining when the political candidates spent 100's of millions of dollars on TV ads.

Hi there. Political ads are totally different than a sitting President copping network time for a Presidential prime-time news conference.

But a smart fellow like yourself already knew that, right?

Norad: Holden C: I didn't hear them whining when the political candidates spent 100's of millions of dollars on TV ads.

Hi there. Political ads are totally different than a sitting President copping network time for a Presidential prime-time news conference.

But a smart fellow like yourself already knew that, right?

Yeah, I did. Personally, I think the prime-time news conferences are unnecessary. I'm just saying overall the networks benefit from politics far more than they suffer for it.

The solution is quite simple.
Broadcast the news conference on PBS and have the networks promote the event on their evening newscasts and maybe an onscreen crawl "President's News Conference at 8PM on your local PBS station".

It's the public's airwaves. That's the price.

Of course, it's much better not to be told things about things by the guy in charge of said things. Ignorance is too valuable a commodity to squander on mere 'knowledge.' Save it for unfounded internet speculation and tinfoil hattistry.

I'm conflicted. On the one hand, I think it is important for the president to have a constant dialogue with the American people, and anyone who is more invested in a TV show than the state of our nation needs to have their head examined. However, having said that, if that son a biatch ever interrupts Lost or the Office, my butthurt may rise to Glen Beck levels.

What's the difference between Obama's press conferences and other presidents? Quantity?

Karma Chameleon: I'm conflicted. On the one hand, I think it is important for the president to have a constant dialogue with the American people, and anyone who is more invested in a TV show than the state of our nation needs to have their head examined. However, having said that, if that son a biatch ever interrupts Lost or the Office, my butthurt may rise to Glen Beck levels.

Personally, there's nothing on those networks for me to miss in the first place.

Media: HOLY shiat EVERYONE PANIC!
Obama Press Conference: Relax, folks, this is no big deal.
Media: Goddamnit Obama. You're killing our income.

Yeah, sounds about right to me

Alphax: What's the difference between Obama's press conferences and other presidents? Quantity?

Tone.

Occam's Chainsaw: Alphax: What's the difference between Obama's press conferences and other presidents? Quantity?

Tone.

You are correct. It's odd to see reporters so submissive.

Kit Carson: Occam's Chainsaw: Alphax: What's the difference between Obama's press conferences and other presidents? Quantity?

Tone.

You are correct. It's odd to see reporters so submissive.

Yeah, they really took the last administration to task. Fourth Estate my ass.

Just tell him to break for commercials

WTFDYW: Just tell him to break for commercials

Or they could work in product placement during the speeches.

"I was enjoying a nice fresh ice cold Pepsi this afternoon when I decided to close the island prison of Guantanamo."

"During my visit to the Vatican to discuss birth control issues with the pope we both enjoyed a hearty box of frozen Little Debbie Strawberry Rolls"

Unlimited opportunity for product placement, Put a Nike Swoosh on the side of Air Force 1, and a giant Tide decal on the hood of his favorite armored limo.

They're just pissed that he killed their perfectly good and profitable swine flu panic with reason and "wash your hands, stay at home, OK?"

Product placement.

Midway through his speech, Obama could pop a Viagra and wash it down with a long refreshing drink of Pepsi.

Damn you gothelder!



_{/shakes tiny fists}

gothelder: WTFDYW: Just tell him to break for commercials

Or they could work in product placement during the speeches.

"I was enjoying a nice fresh ice cold Pepsi this afternoon when I decided to close the island prison of Guantanamo."

"During my visit to the Vatican to discuss birth control issues with the pope we both enjoyed a hearty box of frozen Little Debbie Strawberry Rolls"

Unlimited opportunity for product placement, Put a Nike Swoosh on the side of Air Force 1, and a giant Tide decal on the hood of his favorite armored limo.

So we want a Truman Show for Obama? I'm not sure I want to see him taking a dump or banging his old lady

Well, if none of them carry the speeches, they could probably be investigated for anti-trust violations.

Take away their coonting broadcasting privileges and they'll shut the fark up real fast.

Like whiny farking children.

Karma Chameleon: Kit Carson: Occam's Chainsaw: Alphax: What's the difference between Obama's press conferences and other presidents? Quantity?

Tone.

You are correct. It's odd to see reporters so submissive.

Yeah, they really took the last administration to task. Fourth Estate my ass.

b-b-b-Bush? Seriously, they tried to lose the war for us, what more could they do? As far as I can tell, everyone's upset about the run-up to the war which is rather odd, because the only guy yelping about it was Kucinich.

Phil Moskowitz: Take away their coonting broadcasting privileges and they'll shut the fark up real fast.


That's the spirit, comrade!

ok, wtf is Al Capone in the white house?

"We will continue to make our decisions on White House requests on a case-by-case basis, but the Fox decision gives us cover to reject a request if we feel that there is no urgent breaking news that is going to be discussed," said one network exec, who, like all, would not speak for attribution fearing repercussions from the administration.

"If the president wants to make it tough for your network, he can," the exec added.

Another network executive confided, "Nobody wants to take on the White House, so we'll have to tiptoe through this."

Although Obama's post-election visits to NBC's "The Tonight Show With Jay Leno" and CBS' "60 Minutes" served as major ratings boosts, the love affair between the networks and the Democrat darling actually might be cooling: There are too many demands, and too much money is at stake.

Even more irksome, the White House is bailing out bankers, insurers and carmakers, but nary a nickel has gone to the struggling media industry.

It might be a good thing that the audience these broadcasts get are asymptotic. The more worried I have been at a given point in time, the more likely I have been to tune in.

I think bumping American Idol was just done for lulz, though. They should do that twice a month with no prior warning. Have a ticker running along the bottom containing tweens' and wingnuts' texted-in outrage. I'd watch FOX for that.

Kit Carson: That's the spirit, comrade!

Part of the deal that broadcast television agreed to was that their use of a public resource (the airwaves) would be for the benefit of the public. That's why you have those public service announcements they air at 3am and every network has a news department even though it's a revenue loss.

If the president wants to take an hour to talk to the American people over the public airwaves, the networks that get to use them for the rest of the broadcast day for shiat like american idol and survivor: brooklyn can just STFU or start paying for access to the the public frequency space.

These media companies are getting too big to fail. We should break them into a hundred tiny pieces.

People have come to realize that their local paper is just a waste of paper as it only seems to carry national news that everybody else has reported the night before on the internet. In fact somebody called me from the local Denver paper last week and when I declined their offer, they asked why. My response "Why would I want to pay for yesterdays news just getting to me today, when I get it online for free".

The networks trying to shoot their relevancy in foot only strikes me as a bad idea. The only time I watched what could be considered regular TV in the last year was the debates and election night coverage. But to be fair I do not do network TV, if its a show I am interested in, I will wait 24 hours for it to be capped and stripped of commercials. (Hell, I still have the last 9 episodes of BSG on my HD and have not gotten around to watching them yet.)

/ Though I do keep directtv for background noise, History channel, Military Channel, etc..
// If I could get a local paper with local news, crossword and comics, I would subscribe.

Kit Carson: Phil Moskowitz: Take away their coonting broadcasting privileges and they'll shut the fark up real fast.


That's the spirit, comrade!

You don't even have a cursory knowledge of your own media, do you? You people are legion. A legion of uninvolved farkwits.

equilibrium: Kit Carson: That's the spirit, comrade!

Part of the deal that broadcast television agreed to was that their use of a public resource (the airwaves) would be for the benefit of the public. That's why you have those public service announcements they air at 3am and every network has a news department even though it's a revenue loss.

If the president wants to take an hour to talk to the American people over the public airwaves, the networks that get to use them for the rest of the broadcast day for shiat like american idol and survivor: brooklyn can just STFU or start paying for access to the the public frequency space.

equilibrium: Kit Carson: That's the spirit, comrade!

Part of the deal that broadcast television agreed to was that their use of a public resource (the airwaves) would be for the benefit of the public. That's why you have those public service announcements they air at 3am and every network has a news department even though it's a revenue loss.

If the president wants to take an hour to talk to the American people over the public airwaves, the networks that get to use them for the rest of the broadcast day for shiat like american idol and survivor: brooklyn can just STFU or start paying for access to the the public frequency space.

Hanging curveball, right over the plate . . . b-b-b Bush. (I'm beginning to like that meme).

Kit Carson: b-b-b-Bush? Seriously, they tried to lose the war for us, what more could they do? As far as I can tell, everyone's upset about the run-up to the war which is rather odd, because the only guy yelping about it was Kucinich.

Tried to lose the war for us? Seriously, it was lost before it started. It should never have been.

Kevua: ok, wtf is Al Capone in the white house?

No, the network execs understand the agreement they chose to operate under but are hoping that that average slack-jawed viewer doesn't.

It would cost them an assload more money if the FCC decided that broadcasters should have to pay a market rate for their frequency space.

Riche: Damn you gothelder!



/shakes tiny fists

My bad.

I would make a great minds think a like comment, but my mind is decidedly un-great.

Kit Carson: Hanging curveball, right over the plate . . . b-b-b Bush. (I'm beginning to like that meme).

How is that a "b-b-b Bush"? That agreement has been in place since the advent of broadcast television.

I don't think you understand the meme or how radio and broadcast tv operate.

equilibrium: Kevua: ok, wtf is Al Capone in the white house?

No, the network execs understand the agreement they chose to operate under but are hoping that that average slack-jawed viewer doesn't.

It would cost them an assload more money if the FCC decided that broadcasters should have to pay a market rate for their frequency space.

Now that I would like to see.

/ With a progressive fee structure based on viewership as calculated by some ratings group.

equilibrium: Kit Carson: That's the spirit, comrade!

Part of the deal that broadcast television agreed to was that their use of a public resource (the airwaves) would be for the benefit of the public. That's why you have those public service announcements they air at 3am and every network has a news department even though it's a revenue loss.

If the president wants to take an hour to talk to the American people over the public airwaves, the networks that get to use them for the rest of the broadcast day for shiat like american idol and survivor: brooklyn can just STFU or start paying for access to the the public frequency space.

This whole airwaves as public resource concept is total bullshiat. Neither the government nor the public did squat to develop the technology to exploit the "airwaves" so neither the government nor the public has the right to say squat about how they are used.

Before you continue to parrot crap heard from other drones, perhaps you should read some history about how and why the "airwaves" were nationalized. As is usually the case in situations like this, money changed hands and deals were brokered.

if they would actually report the news

who what when where

and not their stupid PC story of Chairman Obama of the day...

they would make money, like Fox does

winterwhile: if they would actually report the news

who what when where

and not their stupid PC story of Chairman Obama of the day...

they would make money, like Fox does

in the trade, this is what is referred to as 'Sticking the landing'.

pressers??? really?

equilibrium: Kit Carson: Hanging curveball, right over the plate . . . b-b-b Bush. (I'm beginning to like that meme).

How is that a "b-b-b Bush"? That agreement has been in place since the advent of broadcast television.

I don't think you understand the meme or how radio and broadcast tv operate.

I might not understand the meme . . . I was thinking that, if Bush had tried to strong-arm the networks, the wailing here would've been tremendous. (That's a "b-b-b-Bush," yes?)

bookman: This whole airwaves as public resource concept is total bullshiat. Neither the government nor the public did squat to develop the technology to exploit the "airwaves" so neither the government nor the public has the right to say squat about how they are used.

The funny thing is that the corporations themselves disagree with you and demonstrate it every time the broadcast a "public service" announcement. But maybe you've hit on something that fifty years of their legal departments have overlooked.

Honestly, why would we need to license and regulate the frequency space. I should be able to build an EM generator so I can fill the cell phone and television frequency bands with white noise. Or maybe I can start rebroadcast old gilligan's island re-runs in the middle of the police and fire department bands...

Fark yeah! Back to the wild wild west!

Kit Carson: I might not understand the meme . . . I was thinking that, if Bush had tried to strong-arm the networks, the wailing here would've been tremendous. (That's a "b-b-b-Bush," yes?)

/facepalm

Ok I'll type slowly so you can follow along. A "b-b-b Bush" is when Obama does something bad and the response from the left is that Bush did the same or worse. It comes from eight years of listening to the right "but but but Clinton (got a bj)" with respect to shiat the Bush pulled.

I just pointed out the requirements that broadcast television corporations agreed to in order to have unpayed access to a shared resource.

CygnusDarius: Not to take any credit on the guy, or any other before and after him. But this is kinda like a id with a new toy, all kids with new toys wanna flash 'em at their friends, so they get jealous and get more popular. But as the time pass, the shine is just not the same.

The same thing will happen with the next latin, asian, mormon, homosexual, bisexual, muslim, budhist, atheist, wiccan, exact cloned replica of Marilyn Monroe, extraterrestrial, and robot presidents.

I always wondered why a network doesn't stick to normal programming. I mean, you can wacth the pres speak on the other networks.

P.O already ignores fFox's questions. Why show part of his 100 day anniversay mastibatory celebration tour?

FTA: Even more irksome, the White House is bailing out bankers, insurers and carmakers, but nary a nickel has gone to the struggling media industry.


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA..... Really? Really?

Also: Like many businesses, broadcasters are having to cut costs and lay off staffers. Said another broadcast exec, "The millions of ad dollars the president is costing us could help us keep some of those people working."

Yeah... I'm sure if it hadn't of been for the mean old President having an address, all those laid off people would still be working today.

matt2891: FTA: Even more irksome, the White House is bailing out bankers, insurers and carmakers, but nary a nickel has gone to the struggling media industry.


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA..... Really? Really?

I rolled my eyes at that, too.

equilibrium: Kit Carson: I might not understand the meme . . . I was thinking that, if Bush had tried to strong-arm the networks, the wailing here would've been tremendous. (That's a "b-b-b-Bush," yes?)

/facepalm

Ok I'll type slowly so you can follow along. A "b-b-b Bush" is when Obama does something bad and the response from the left is that Bush did the same or worse. It comes from eight years of listening to the right "but but but Clinton (got a bj)" with respect to shiat the Bush pulled.

You don't have to type slowly unless you have difficulty remember the keys and what they represent. I honestly didn't know what the meme was, and during my short period here I've noticed that many others don't get it, either.

Kevua: ok, wtf is Al Capone in the white house?

"We will continue to make our decisions on White House requests on a case-by-case basis, but the Fox decision gives us cover to reject a request if we feel that there is no urgent breaking news that is going to be discussed," said one network exec, who, like all, would not speak for attribution fearing repercussions from the administration.

"If the president wants to make it tough for your network, he can," the exec added.

Another network executive confided, "Nobody wants to take on the White House, so we'll have to tiptoe through this."

Although Obama's post-election visits to NBC's "The Tonight Show With Jay Leno" and CBS' "60 Minutes" served as major ratings boosts, the love affair between the networks and the Democrat darling actually might be cooling: There are too many demands, and too much money is at stake.

Even more irksome, the White House is bailing out bankers, insurers and carmakers, but nary a nickel has gone to the struggling media industry.

That's a real nice 1st Amendment you got there.... real nice.... hmmmmmmm it'd be really awful if something happened to it don't you think?