While it's asinine that he was forced into a two-year legal battle, it wasn't over racism, it was over discrimination in housing.

Looks more like they didn't like the word "adult." Does that mean if you have want a roommate you're not allowed to reject people with kids? Screw that.

flucto: if you have want a roommate you're not allowed to reject people with kids? Screw that.

No, advertising for a person (roommate) is fine. If you are advertising a rental property and say that you do not allow kids, that is not fine, as much as you seem to hate the fact that you cannot discriminate.

However, if in advertising a room for rent (roommate) and you give an age range preference for that person, you are being discriminatory.

If you get into a dispute with anyone who is not the same color as you, you are a racist.

If you get into a dispute with anyone who is not the same color as you, you are a racist

If it involves denouncing that person in such a way as to make them feel like they are less of a person than you are, simply by the color of their skin... then yes, you are a racist.

Ever notice that the greenlights lately seem to be more controversial topics (hence ensuring more page views) than humorous headlines like in the old days?

Whamdangler: Ever notice that the greenlights lately seem to be more controversial topics that have little or nothing to do with TFA(hence ensuring more page views) than humorous headlines like in the old days?

FTFY and yes, the funny's just not here anymore. I blame the PITA Meter for starting that bullshiat.

Whamdangler: as much as you seem to hate the fact that you cannot discriminate.

To the extent that rejecting any assertion that, in the process of considering the rental of a room in my house, I am not allowed to exclude from consideration persons whose presence includes the noise, mess, smell, chaos and destruction generally accepted as being associated with vertically challenged domestic terrorists, constitutes on my part a "hatred of the fact that I cannot discriminate", I concede the point.

Whamdangler: Ever notice that the greenlights lately seem to be more controversial topics (hence ensuring more page views) than humorous headlines like in the old days?

Humorous headlines about controversial subjects are almost a lock.

The fair solution is to forbid any member of the Fair Housing Council from owning, occupying, or entering any dwelling.

flucto: To the extent that rejecting any assertion that...

I already conceded the point that in selecting a roommate, it was perfectly fine to advertise for one person (hence not allowing someone who would bring a child or any other companion.) But, this article was not about someone selecting a roommate.

Whamdangler: But, this article was not about someone selecting a roommate.

He has a room to rent "in his house", which sounds rather room-matey (arr)

flucto: He has a room to rent "in his house", which sounds rather room-matey (arr)

Well, the article seems to be abit vague.

Daniel Bader states that a family with two children under the age of 12 were his tenants when he posted an ad on Craigslist stating the adjoining unit behind his Newport Beach place would be "well suited for professional adults."

It says small room (480 sq ft is a "small" room?) in one place, and "adjoining unit" in another. I was under the impression that it was a separate unit.

This is just some terrible layout work. Why is the story tucked into less than one-quarter of the page width?

That's unfair to people who want to be discriminated against.

I'm going to hire a "Professional" woman to come to my room tonight, so I am really getting a kick out of these replies.

/hur...wha?

pro·fes·sion·al
2. Engaging in a given activity as a source of livelihood or as a career

a·dult
1. One who has attained maturity or legal age.


So, he's asking for someone with a job who can legally sign a lease, and that's discriminatory?

Whamdangler: While it's asinine that he was forced into a two-year legal battle, it wasn't over racism, it was over discrimination in housing.

Well since the state ruled that he did not discriminate before this debacle dragged out, it was obviously not about housing discrimination.

There are adequate state and Federal controls over housing, having a volunteer citizens' panel with the power to assess and consume fines is simply absurd. However in California that never stopped anything before.

brypete: pro·fes·sion·al
2. Engaging in a given activity as a source of livelihood or as a career

a·dult
1. One who has attained maturity or legal age.


So, he's asking for someone with a job who can legally sign a lease, and that's discriminatory?

In California apparently. However Craigslist ads routinely suggest that a prospective tenant have a specific preference as to one's like or dislike of penis (new window), marital status, penis (new window), vulva (new window)mature clean working adult (new window), and on and on.

This guy got the shaft, and not in the penis (new window) way.

Whamdangler: If you are advertising a rental property and say that you do not allow kids, that is not fine, as much as you seem to hate the fact that you cannot discriminate.

I think that must vary from state to state, because it's hard to find a beach house rental in South Carolina that will rent to people under 21 or to people who are of college-age.

feckingmorons:
This guy got the shaft...

"Mr. Bader owes a total of about $44,000 in fees to his own attorney and to this council for a frivolous charge."

Who's Mr. Bader's ultra-lame attorney?

I think that must vary from state to state, because it's hard to find a beach house rental in South Carolina that will rent to people under 21 or to people who are of college-age.

Some Boston landlords won't rent to college students. That's legal discrimination. Discrimination is legal unless prohibited. Discriminating on the basis of race is prohibited. Discriminating on the basis of college enrollment is usually not prohibited.

Whamdangler: it was over discrimination in housing.

If the room is in your own house you should damn well be able to discriminate.

ZAZ: Discriminating on the basis of college enrollment is usually not prohibited.

But, discriminating based on age is done all throughout the country.

Many beach house owners won't rent to people under 21.

Many senior communities won't allow anyone under 55 to live there.

The point is that the state ruled that what this guy did was not discrimination, and it's supported by similar rental restrictions across the country. The state ruled that he didn't discriminate, and this little despotic council was still able to extort funds.

eddyatwork: If the room is in your own house you should damn well be able to discriminate.

I already conceded that point, but it's debatable whether the room in question is in his house, or an adjoining unit. The article says both.

feckingmorons: Well since the state ruled that he did not discriminate before this debacle dragged out, it was obviously not about housing discrimination.

I was referring back to the headline. There's nothing about racism in this article.

SchlingFocker: Many beach house owners won't rent to people under 21.

I am sure this is true. Not sure it's right, but renting several houses for the summer at various beaches in the past, I've seen it.

Many senior communities won't allow anyone under 55 to live there.

Courts have given them specific legal exemptions from age-discrimination laws.

Whamdangler: While it's asinine that he was forced into a two-year legal battle, it wasn't over racism, it was over discrimination in housing.

No, it was over a housing board that makes all it's money off of fines. If you note in the article, they said it was found he doesn't discriminate BEFORE they tried to force the fines and "counseling " on him.

Whamdangler: Courts have given them specific legal exemptions from age-discrimination laws.

The Courts have nothing to do with it. The Housing for Older Persons Act is what allows the practice of restricting communities to persons over 55.

You original statement, absent the statement about racisim is still wrong. There never was a question under applicable law if the landlord was discriminating against any protected class, or discriminating in housing.

The dispute was over the ability of an overreaching quasigovernmental organization has the authority to investigate, prosecute, and judge alleged violations of housing laws. The answer is no, but unfortunately the government backed deep pockets of the ill informed volunteer tribunal simply exhausted the resources of the landlord.

The outcome of this suit will simply be that there is at least one less affordable rental unit, the landlord's unit, available to those who need housing. The fallout from this suit will I can assure you have chilling effects on the other landlords who are subject to this kangaroo court.

Would you open a room in your house if you knew some group of your neighbors could bring a lawsuit against you with the assistance of the government because they didn't like the way you worded a classified advertisement that was assuredly not in violation of any federal or state laws?

mediablitz: No, it was over a housing board that makes all it's money off of fines. If you note in the article, they said it was found he doesn't discriminate BEFORE they tried to force the fines and "counseling " on him.

You're outrage is misplaced. I already said it was asinine.

feckingmorons: You original statement, absent the statement about racisim is still wrong.

My original statement was ABOUT racism, and the fact that THIS ARTICLE had nothing to do with racism. Don't remove it to make your point. It makes you look petty.

HA HA! You don't have freedom of association in the US anymore!!1!

Whamdangler: Ever notice that the greenlights lately seem to be more controversial topics (hence ensuring more page views) than humorous headlines like in the old days?

Is this why you're so racist all the time?

Whamdangler: mediablitz: No, it was over a housing board that makes all it's money off of fines. If you note in the article, they said it was found he doesn't discriminate BEFORE they tried to force the fines and "counseling " on him.

You're outrage is misplaced. I already said it was asinine.

No asinine is washing your car in the rain. This is chilling and it will cause a reduction in affordable housing. The landlord described his rental room as best he could and did not in any way discriminate. Yet this board under color of law cost him more than forty thousand dollars.

The board in an effort to make housing available to all has by its own misguided action reduced the available affordable housing. The board is simply not needed and its existance is a detriment to the community it purports to serve.

Extortion is illegal and the board members should be prosecuted. I would be happy to do so.

What about professional racists, like Al Sharpton and Carlos Mencia?

Whamdangler: While it's asinine that he was forced into a two-year legal battle, it wasn't over racism, it was over discrimination in housing.

I thought "racist" was just a catch-all term for someone who's doing something generally bad.

/or at least that's the way it appears to be used
//few usages of the term "racist" appear to be in line with its actual definition

Professional = Having a job = Ability to pay rent.
This doesn't include the jobless with housing vouchers who could pay the rent.
So, yeah, I could see why a property management company would want a well crafted legal department's wording on an applicant wanted advert.

Githerax: What about professional racists, like Al Sharpton and Carlos Mencia?

They are comedians (even though only one of them is funny), so they can do it

In other news, housing regulation that has nothing to do with safety or public health is frequently irrational and actually reduces the number of housing units available.

feckingmorons: The landlord described his rental room as best he could and did not in any way discriminate. Yet this board under color of law cost him more than forty thousand dollars.

The board in an effort to make housing available to all has by its own misguided action reduced the available affordable housing. The board is simply not needed and its existance is a detriment to the community it purports to serve.

Extortion is illegal and the board members should be prosecuted. I would be happy to do so.

Yes, I read the article. I don't like it any more than you do. We never had a disagreement here.

Came for the Spaced references, leaving disappointed.

feckingmorons: Whamdangler: mediablitz: No, it was over a housing board that makes all it's money off of fines. If you note in the article, they said it was found he doesn't discriminate BEFORE they tried to force the fines and "counseling " on him.

You're outrage is misplaced. I already said it was asinine.

No asinine is washing your car in the rain. This is chilling and it will cause a reduction in affordable housing. The landlord described his rental room as best he could and did not in any way discriminate. Yet this board under color of law cost him more than forty thousand dollars.

The board in an effort to make housing available to all has by its own misguided action reduced the available affordable housing. The board is simply not needed and its existance is a detriment to the community it purports to serve.

Extortion is illegal and the board members should be prosecuted. I would be happy to do so.

yeah , why not a counter suit ? im glad we moved out of that shathole years ago . F California in the A !

legrandbatard: They are comedians (even though only one of them is funny), so they can do it

I don't know, Mencia has his moments too...

Mr. Bader was forced to attend a hearing in Los Angeles and told that the complaint would be dropped if he paid $4,000 in fines and agreed to take five years' worth of re-education classes at $250 a pop - even though the state ruled that he does not discriminate.

That is farking extortion...but sort of typical for courts. Re-education classes? bwahaha

They'd have hauled my arse to jail before I'd have paid a penny. Frickin' nazi losers!

Here in Boston from what I heard although you cannot discriminate by renting apartments/houses to a certain age group or gender, when looking for a roommate you can do so (looking for someone between 20-32 yrs of age, female roommates only).

Githerax: What about professional racists, like Al Sharpton and Carlos Mencia?

Nah, Mencia isn't racist he steals material from all kinds of comics not just of one race

vudukungfu: Professional = Having a job = Ability to pay rent.
This doesn't include the jobless with housing vouchers who could pay the rent.
So, yeah, I could see why a property management company would want a well crafted legal department's wording on an applicant wanted advert.

Does the term professional not best describe the professions? Doctor, Lawyer, CPA, Architect? Something for which one may take a 'professional' degree : MD, DVM, DO, OD, JD, etc. Or something that requires a license to practice such as public accountancy, pharmacy, podiatry?

If one holds such degree or license even if unemployed or retired would one still not be a professional?

Of course the advert in my opinion was to demonstrate that it was a small room and probably not suitable for someone to pass 22 hours of their day simply due to its size.

40yoVirgin: If you get into a dispute with anyone who is not the same color as you, you are a racist

If it involves denouncing that person in such a way as to make them feel like they are less of a person than you are, simply by the color of their skin... then yes, you are a racist jerk .

FTFY

jshine: I thought "racist" was just a catch-all term for someone who's doing something generally bad

That's racist.

There needs to be a new country created to PRUDESELVANIA where all these sanctimonious control-freaks can be shipped to.

They can then have all the goddam "blue laws" they want and dress their women up in burkhas and only allow procreation by artificial insemination to prevent any sort of pleasure. They can have a death penalty for missing church. No alcohol, drugs, strip joints, porn would be allowed.

The only thing is that any women who want to leave this "heaven on earth" will be granted refugee staus immediately.