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(Some Chick) Dumbass If you are trying for a "Crime of Passion" defense after killing the man your girlfriend has been cheating with, don't stand up in court bragging how you are a swinger and have 17 girlfriend and that, yes, you murdered the man   (post-gazette.com) divider line 35
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H. W. Plainview 2009-05-02 03:27:42 PM  
I wish i had 17 girlfriend

 
gopher321 [TotalFark] 2009-05-02 03:55:07 PM  
FTA: "I think if I assigned you Johnnie Cochran, you would still be dissatisfied," Judge Todd said, referring to the lawyer who represented O.J. Simpson in a double homicide trial. "You insisted, against [Mr. Walker's] advise, to testify and that hurt your case quite a bit, do you understand that?"

Mr. Williams replied, "Yes, I do."



Ha ha, classic. No loss to society, this idiot.

 
mayerbecca [TotalFark] 2009-05-02 04:06:25 PM  
this all could've been solved with a simple conversation, "honey i think we should see more other people."

 
mayerbecca [TotalFark] 2009-05-02 04:21:38 PM  
"it's not you, it's them"

 
mayerbecca [TotalFark] 2009-05-02 04:26:06 PM  
"there are plentyoffish in the sea. remember? that's how we met most of our lovers."

 
Stay Cool Babylon 2009-05-02 04:36:40 PM  
Dad?

Really though, someone explain this logic to me: "Well, one of my fundamental rights as an American is the right to refuse to take the stand, slip up, and sign my own prison term. Even if I'm guilty as sin. But you know what? I think I'm gonna waive that right just so I can tell these mofos about how right I am, lulz." Keep your fool mouth shut, son. That way, you can't make matters any worse.

Also, why do some guys get angry at the man their wives are banging? Isn't it the wife you should be upset with?

 
mayerbecca [TotalFark] 2009-05-02 04:40:45 PM  
Stay Cool Babylon: Also, why do some guys get angry at the man their wives are banging? Isn't it the wife you should be upset with?

totally. unless it's like your best friend, it was your spouse you signed a contract with not the world at large. and people lie about every imaginable thing to laid. i'd be willing to bet the top 2 are: "i'm single" and "yes, that is my car out there."

 
cksewell [TotalFark] 2009-05-02 05:16:17 PM  
Assistant District Attorney Rob Schupansky, who could barely contain his glee, was brief in his cross-examination.

"Did you shoot Kenneth Woods on the 16th of June, 2008?"

"Yes," Mr. Williams replied.

After Judge Todd delivered the first-degree murder verdict, Mr. Williams piped up, insisting that his counsel was ineffective.


Every ADAa dream. A defendant who is a moron and doesn't know when to STFU

 
Eunuch Provocateur 2009-05-02 05:21:58 PM  
I don't see how him being a pimp has anything to do with her being a whore

 
SkySnake 2009-05-02 05:28:00 PM  
Somebody answer the DAMN phone!

 
EverythingElseWasTaken [TotalFark] 2009-05-02 05:42:37 PM  
Stay Cool Babylon: Also, why do some guys get angry at the man their wives are banging? Isn't it the wife you should be upset with?

This. Applies to women who have a man screwing around behind their back as well.


/Been both cheater and mistress.
//Doesn't change my opinion.

 
DJDIMMY 2009-05-02 05:46:27 PM  
www.teamteabag.com

 
CBob 2009-05-02 06:00:30 PM  
Then again some public defenders are even lazier than the client is dumb.

 
Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox 2009-05-02 06:06:16 PM  
TFA: Private clients, Mr. Elash said, can be difficult, too, but there's an easy way to silence dissent. "I always tell people, 'If you're not going to listen to me, don't pay me money. Once you pay me money, your obligation is to do everything I tell you,' " Mr. Elash said.

This could get him disbarred as a violation of the Rules of Professional Conduct if he actually told that to clients. What a bad lawyer.

 
inkling79 2009-05-02 06:10:02 PM  
"I think if I assigned you Johnnie Cochran, you would still be dissatisfied," Judge Todd said, referring to the lawyer who represented O.J. Simpson in a double homicide trial.

I would be dissatisfied as well, considering the fact that Johnnie Cochran is dead.

 
Gyrfalcon [TotalFark] 2009-05-02 06:10:04 PM  
"You insisted, against [Mr. Walker's] advise, to testify and that hurt your case quite a bit, do you understand that?"

Mr. Williams replied, "Yes, I do."


"You understand that by being stupid you allowed us to sentence you to death?"
"Yes I do."
"So why are you complaining?"
"You're not supposed to let me be stupid."

 
Veteran of the Cola Wars 2009-05-02 06:24:28 PM  
Crime of Passion of the Christ?

 
Joafu 2009-05-02 06:25:59 PM  
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"I'd never done a crazy thing in my life before that night. Why is it that if a man kills another man in battle it's called heroic, yet if he kills a man in the heat of passion it's called murder?"

 
strathmeyer 2009-05-02 06:27:21 PM  
Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: TFA: Private clients, Mr. Elash said, can be difficult, too, but there's an easy way to silence dissent. "I always tell people, 'If you're not going to listen to me, don't pay me money. Once you pay me money, your obligation is to do everything I tell you,' " Mr. Elash said.

This could get him disbarred as a violation of the Rules of Professional Conduct if he actually told that to clients. What a bad lawyer.


Then I don't suppose it helps to tell you that this is a common thing for a lawyer to tell their clients?

 
Stay Cool Babylon 2009-05-02 06:29:29 PM  
mayerbecca: Stay Cool Babylon: Also, why do some guys get angry at the man their wives are banging? Isn't it the wife you should be upset with?

totally. unless it's like your best friend, it was your spouse you signed a contract with not the world at large. and people lie about every imaginable thing to laid. i'd be willing to bet the top 2 are: "i'm single" and "yes, that is my car out there."


"I'm single" only works for women. "I'm seeing someone and therefore most likely emotionally unavailable" is, for some reason I will never understand, the most successful pick-up line for guys.

 
nevesis 2009-05-02 06:31:45 PM  
This video seems appropriate:

Why you should never, EVER talk to police.

 
mrgromit 2009-05-02 06:48:04 PM  
Your honor, I move for a bad...court...thingie.

 
A Shambling Mound 2009-05-02 06:56:06 PM  
strathmeyer: Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: TFA: Private clients, Mr. Elash said, can be difficult, too, but there's an easy way to silence dissent. "I always tell people, 'If you're not going to listen to me, don't pay me money. Once you pay me money, your obligation is to do everything I tell you,' " Mr. Elash said.

This could get him disbarred as a violation of the Rules of Professional Conduct if he actually told that to clients. What a bad lawyer.

Then I don't suppose it helps to tell you that this is a common thing for a lawyer to tell their clients?


Just because it's common doesn't mean it's ethical or correct. You are right though, it is not at all uncommon, but I suspect the words are typically more carefully chosen.

 
strathmeyer 2009-05-02 07:27:52 PM  
A Shambling Mound: Just because it's common doesn't mean it's ethical or correct. You are right though, it is not at all uncommon, but I suspect the words are typically more carefully chosen.

Why would you continue to accept money from someone who wasn't utilizing your services? That sounds unethical.

 
PunchDrunkPanda 2009-05-02 07:44:47 PM  
nevesis: This video seems appropriate:

Why you should never, EVER talk to police.


THE G CODE

It's so true though. People don't realize they have the right to refuse to talk or consent to searches.

/or, as in the immediate case, they are just plain old retarded

 
markb289 2009-05-02 07:51:07 PM  
Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox:TFA: Private clients, Mr. Elash said, can be difficult, too, but there's an easy way to silence dissent. "I always tell people, 'If you're not going to listen to me, don't pay me money. Once you pay me money, your obligation is to do everything I tell you,' " Mr. Elash said.

This could get him disbarred as a violation of the Rules of Professional Conduct if he actually told that to clients. What a bad lawyer.

Actually, John Elash is one of the top criminal defense lawyers in Pittsburgh

 
thesubliminalman 2009-05-02 07:53:13 PM  
I am not sure I can keep 14 girlfriend happy.

 
thesubliminalman 2009-05-02 07:55:51 PM  
nevesis: This video seems appropriate:

Why you should never, EVER talk to police.


But to refuse is a clearly suspicious act and good enough for a judge to sign something. Ya can't win.

 
PunchDrunkPanda 2009-05-02 08:05:25 PM  
thesubliminalman: nevesis: This video seems appropriate:

Why you should never, EVER talk to police.

But to refuse is a clearly suspicious act and good enough for a judge to sign something. Ya can't win.


No. It's not. Exercising a constitutional right to refuse does not give rise to reasonable suspicion, and it damn sure won't procure a warrant.

 
Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox 2009-05-02 08:09:28 PM  
markb289: Actually, John Elash is one of the top criminal defense lawyers in Pittsburgh

Well I say that acting like Mr. Elash did makes you a bad lawyer and does a disservice to your clients, whatever your income level or trial record is. It's called professional responsibility. He lacks it, and he could be disbarred for it.

 
IonBeam2 2009-05-02 09:45:00 PM  
Stay Cool Babylon: Dad?

Really though, someone explain this logic to me: "Well, one of my fundamental rights as an American is the right to refuse to take the stand, slip up, and sign my own prison term. Even if I'm guilty as sin. But you know what? I think I'm gonna waive that right just so I can tell these mofos about how right I am, lulz." Keep your fool mouth shut, son. That way, you can't make matters any worse.

Also, why do some guys get angry at the man their wives are banging? Isn't it the wife you should be upset with?


I'm guessing you don't spend a lot of time with black people.

 
texastag 2009-05-02 10:32:25 PM  
We have been swingers for a long time and the people who shouldn't be in the lifestyle are pretty easy to spot. They're the couple who come to a party and one of them goes completely wild while the other is either standing by the door for an hour ready to leave, off somewhere crying, or making a complete arse of themselves. They shouldn't be in the lifestyle. My swingers group weeds them out pretty quickly.

If you're interested you can read some of the rules we employ...

Here
(Link may be NSFW if someone is reading over your shoulder)

/Only have six girlfriend
//They're awesome!

 
Gyrfalcon [TotalFark] 2009-05-03 01:19:47 AM  
Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: markb289: Actually, John Elash is one of the top criminal defense lawyers in Pittsburgh

Well I say that acting like Mr. Elash did makes you a bad lawyer and does a disservice to your clients, whatever your income level or trial record is. It's called professional responsibility. He lacks it, and he could be disbarred for it.


What, telling your clients that what they want to do is wrong, could lose their case, and that since you the attorney are the one who has the legal knowledge and courtroom smarts to hopefully win their case, they the clients should shut their mouths and do what the attorney tells them to do?

I'm not sure you grasp the idea of what having an attorney represent you in court means. It means shutting up and doing what your attorney tells you to. Mr. Elash just says so out loud and up front. He's tactless, but tact doesn't win cases.

But if you want to pay someone $500 an hour so you can not do what they think is best, and wind up with a first-degree murder conviction, that's your option, I guess.

 
Mouser 2009-05-03 01:33:26 AM  
Stay Cool Babylon: Really though, someone explain this logic to me: "Well, one of my fundamental rights as an American is the right to refuse to take the stand, slip up, and sign my own prison term. Even if I'm guilty as sin. But you know what? I think I'm gonna waive that right just so I can tell these mofos about how right I am, lulz." Keep your fool mouth shut, son. That way, you can't make matters any worse.

Pride makes people do some really stupid things sometimes.

 
sycraft 2009-05-03 07:15:47 AM  
Ummm, it is perfectly legal and ethical for a private lawyer to tell you how they are going to present your case. If you don't like it, you fire them and get another one. There is no law saying they have to represent you, nor is there a law saying they have to do what you tell them.

This is why you will sometimes see someone get a lawyer, then a new one before they go to trial. They can fire their lawyer, or the lawyer can quit.

The only lawyers who get saddled with having to do whatever their client wants is public defenders.

Now that said, a lawyer can't play change up with their client. They can agree to defend their client on certain grounds and then refuse to do so in trial. However they are perfectly free to say "No, that defense is stupid and won't work. We either do it my way or I'm leaving and you get someone else."

I remember a murder trial that went like this. Guy killed his parents, rather brutally. So this was big local news and a fairly big name local lawyer represented him. Next day, it was a different lawyer listed in the papers, a mistake? Couple days later, it was a public defender, so NOT a mistake, guy had changed lawyers twice. The reason? His defense was that he didn't do it, his alter ego "Hondo" did. Ya let me tell you how well THAT worked out for him. Lawyer #1 and #2 weren't going to argue that shiat and so quit.

 
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