lame trolltastic headline is lame and trolltastic.

and sadly, greenlit.

Is Fife a mod? How the hell did this go green?

"Condi isn't going to take the easy way out"

Translation: she's never made a mistake. Not 9/11. Not Iraq. Not torture.

just a link in the moron chain of bush, cheney, rove, feith, etc. they sure protected the 4000 americans and countless iraqis in their lust to punish saddam hussein for threatening bush sr. they sure went after the saudis, who obviously were behind the 9/11 attacks. . . NOT. this lady is just a well-spoken liar.

If she were all that hung up about saving American lives, she wouldn't have gone along with Bush's hard-on to invade Iraq to prove that he was manlier than Daddy. Monkeyboy was already starting the planning with 24 hours of assuming office.

Taking a good look at his mother, I can see how he ended up being so messed up in the head. Doesn't justify his actions, but DAMN the dude has issues.

Liberal college students attempted to ambush Rice at Stanford? Of course, she handed them their asses. She's intelligent, articulate, and well-informed, far more so than the kids giving her grief.

Do I agree with her? No, not at all. Rationalizing any mistakes and/or bad policies made in response to the 9/11 attacks by the Bush Administration or herself is poppycock.

We all saw the attacks the morning they happened. Some of us saw the people falling to their deaths from the WTC. Using that reasoning, anyone is justified to do whatever if they see and/or experience something terrible.

A soldier shoots civilians because a friend died the day before from an IED. A neighbor hits a man for knocking over his mailbox while backing his car. A woman slaps an unrelated child in the mall because he stuck his tongue out at her. Lots of analogies to Rice's response to the hostile questions.

/Utter bullshiat.

Nice. So she pwned some kid who wasn't prepared for any sort of argument from her. Sorry, being scared doesn't give you the right to break numerous laws.

lmfao!

-she just handed not only her ass...but the entire criminal bush admin to holder.

good one, condi.

i knew you'd fess up some day.

-see...there's book smarts...and then there's street smarts.

that is why republicans will be out of power for a long, long time.

while trying to cover hew own ass...she implicated everyone she whored for!

lmao, again.

"Pantywaists"? Holy crap, I haven't heard that one since "All in the Family" was on the air.

I saw the full video on that - my favorite part was when she started getting all defensive. "Let's get one thing straight - I didn't authorize anything." [I think I paraphrase.] She went from confident high-level policy-maker to aggrieved and unfairly singled-out minor civil servant in under a second. Her accent changed, her pronunciation changed, her posture changed, everything. Very interesting to watch. I foresee more of this from various Bush advisors.

So, everything will get funneled up to Cheney, and he'll place it squarely in Bush's lap - because he's far more politically astute (and politically powerful) than Bush. Then, TPTB on both sides will refuse to prosecute Bush, because it could set a very dangerous precedent.

Well played indeed. Much as I hate it, as reprehensible as I find it, I do have to admire the craftsmanship.

hell...if all we get is a show trial...i'll take it.

-frak her, anyways.

she will always be a cheap whore, in my book.

Goddamn...I wish she would run for President.

Yeah...awesome. Let's see how she does against the DOJ or an independent prosecutor...

Dancin_In_Anson: Goddamn...I wish she would run for President.

So do I. Guaranteed Dem victory.

Benevolent Misanthrope: "Pantywaists"? Holy crap, I haven't heard that one since "All in the Family" was on the air.

I saw the full video on that - my favorite part was when she started getting all defensive. "Let's get one thing straight - I didn't authorize anything." [I think I paraphrase.] She went from confident high-level policy-maker to aggrieved and unfairly singled-out minor civil servant in under a second. Her accent changed, her pronunciation changed, her posture changed, everything. Very interesting to watch. I foresee more of this from various Bush advisors.

So, everything will get funneled up to Cheney, and he'll place it squarely in Bush's lap - because he's far more politically astute (and politically powerful) than Bush. Then, TPTB on both sides will refuse to prosecute Bush, because it could set a very dangerous precedent.

Well played indeed. Much as I hate it, as reprehensible as I find it, I do have to admire the craftsmanship.

It can always be said that, if she and/or anyone in the Bush Administration REALLY disagreed with the Bush Administration's policies, they could have simply resigned.

Better men and women would have done so. And have done so in the past.

Lionel Mandrake: Guaranteed Dem victory

It's all about party eh?

Whether or not I agree with her, she stood there much longer than most politicians would have.

Liked the AnySoldier.com plug on your bio, Dancin_In_Anson. Cool idea.

Dancin_In_Anson: Lionel Mandrake: Guaranteed Dem victory

It's all about party eh?

Sure. Whatever.

Go Condi!!

Condi says that "we were told it was legal"

Condi, I don't care if you were told that waterboarding was legal, you went to an expensive University where they were supposed to teach you history.

We held trials after WWII and convicted and executed people who waterboarded American servicemen - BECAUSE IT IS TORTURE!

Disingenuous much?

exactly, karendotcom.

-well said.

Dancin_In_Anson: Goddamn...I wish she would run for President.

Can I ask why without appearing confrontational about it ? I'd just like to know.

This is the same woman who is using the Nixon defense that because the President said it was so, it was so. She defends her actions with the caveat, because the President said that nothing they'd be asked was outside their legal obligations about torture, nothing that was authorized was illegal. It is a sort of circular logic that puts a huge investment into the authority of the executive.

And it's a buck passing. I didn't authorize anything, I just conveyed the memo. The President didn't do anything illegal, because anything he authorizes is thus legal. It is a lack of moral, ethical, or legal compass.

I didn't hear a pwning, I head a lot of disparate elements, and strung together without actually answering the question. It is more of the spin to try to lead folks down the road that the Nixon defense is viable.

Panty waist

Panties held up by the waist?

Ohh, waste! ooooohhhh

"Nazi Germany never attacked the homeland of the United States"

True.

BunkyBrewman: Whether or not I agree with her, she stood there much longer than most politicians would have.

That's true, I will give credit for that. She did get a little snarky and defensive, but that's understandable given the aggressive stance the questioners have.

-hubiestubert, ftw.

karendotcom: We held trials after WWII and convicted and executed people who waterboarded American servicemen - BECAUSE IT IS TORTURE!

Does anyone have more information about these convictions? I consistently hear them referred to but I can never find what the full charges were.

hubiestubert: And it's a buck passing.

This is what bothers me the most about the people from that administration. No one could just for once stand up and take some responsibility for anything that had happened. The only person I remember doing that was Richard Clarke and we all know what happened to him.

She struck me as being defensive and afraid. Which she should be. She's not going to go down well in history. And her answers were pathetic. The moment your justification requires you to actually downplay how threatening the Nazi's were is the moment you have problems.

coco ebert: The only person I remember doing that was Richard Clarke and we all know what happened to him.


Colin retired then endorsed Obama. Not much but at least he did something after bending over and trading in his credibility and reputation....

I bet she voted for Obama.

Even though the USS Cole was attacked less than a month before the 2000 election, the Bush administration decided to ignore terrorism and focus on a "Star Wars" missile defense program.

KaponoFor3: karendotcom: We held trials after WWII and convicted and executed people who waterboarded American servicemen - BECAUSE IT IS TORTURE!

Does anyone have more information about these convictions? I consistently hear them referred to but I can never find what the full charges were.

Here's a start. Here has some more examples, specific to WWII and Japan.

Chisaku Yuki and Yukio Asano were two of several Japanese soldiers who were tried and convicted (sentenced, respectively, to life and 15 years) for waterboarding prisoners.

We also court martialed soldiers who did so in Vietnam. And as far back as the Spanish American War.

I like Condi. She's a remarkable woman. She was a very capable Secretary of State, and she's probably one of the most intelligent people in Washington.

Plus she's a perfect southern woman. Gracious and strong.

FTA: "A lot of people are second guessing now but let me tell you the second guessing that would have hurt me more is if there had been 3,000 more Americans dying because we didn't do everything we could to protect them."

So I guess by Condi's definition, this is not an American, or their deaths are somehow less important than others deaths:fark you, you murderous slut.

You killed each one of those that died with your treasonous loyalty to that buttmonkey Bush for a war that many knew was based on lies.

Bloody William: We also court martialed soldiers who did so in Vietnam. And as far back as the Spanish American War.

Sherrif in TX was convicted of waterboarding in 1983, IIRC.

Let's try that again, my picture didn't make it:

Tor_Eckman: I bet she voted for Obama.

She may have. Or she may find it adventageous to let theat thought linger. Or (and I think this is most likely) she doesn't think it's anyone's damn business who she votes for.

DamnYankees: Bloody William: We also court martialed soldiers who did so in Vietnam. And as far back as the Spanish American War.

Sherrif in TX was convicted of waterboarding in 1983, IIRC.

Yep. Before the Bush administration started using it and farking defending it (and all of its brainless followers defending it as well), waterboarding was broadly and virtually unanimously considered torture for 90 years. It wasn't a "controversy" since it was called the "water cure" during the Spanish-American War.

KaponoFor3: True.

Germany declared war on us and landed a bombing attack operation on US soil[1][2].

AirForceVet: Liked the AnySoldier.com plug on your bio, Dancin_In_Anson. Cool idea.

Thanks. A former Marine with friends still in sent me that. A splendid idea indeed!

Mordant: Can I ask why without appearing confrontational about it ? I'd just like to know.

Sure. She is a very intelligent individual with a ton of foreign policy experience. The smaller the world becomes, the more important this is. She's tough and well respected to boot.

KaponoFor3: Does anyone have more information about these convictions? I consistently hear them referred to but I can never find what the full charges were.

Have you heard of this thing called the internet?

google:

Captain Chase Nielsen

or
trial of Japanese General Shigeru Sawada in 1946.


Have you ever heard about Google before?

BojanglesPaladin: Plus she's a perfect southern woman. Gracious and strong

Who just happens to own a house with another woman.

BojanglesPaladin: Plus she's a perfect southern woman.


Bends over for her boss? Can't admit to making a mistake? Lies like a log? Has a lot of blood on her hands?

Maybe I should stay away from Southern women...

pwhp_67: coco ebert: The only person I remember doing that was Richard Clarke and we all know what happened to him.

Colin retired then endorsed Obama. Not much but at least he did something after bending over and trading in his credibility and reputation....

Please. I'm so tired of the collective dick-sucking Colin Powell gets. Yes, I appreciated him coming on TV and stating that although Obama wasn't Muslim, why would that be bad if he were, especially since not many others were saying that but truth be told, Powell has always been more concerned about his career than really standing up for the truth. His U.N. testimony will always cast a shadow over his legacy anyway.

FTFA: "If ever you needed further proof of the "person of color" America really needs in charge right now..."

I wonder what "color" would that be? It's almost as if the author is under the assumption that America picked the wrong nubian.

Furthermore, "Did you know that Guantanamo was called a 'model medium security prison' by representatives of the Organisation of Security and Cooperation in Europe?"



So let me get this straight... in this cockfarker's world, punishments such as sensory deprivation and severe joint restriction should be applied to criminals who participate "medium" imprisonable crimes?

Jon Snow: KaponoFor3: True.

Germany declared war on us and landed a bombing attack operation on US soil[1][2].

Not to mention they were developing their own nuke. If she thinks Americans weren't worried about the Nazis, she is out of her farking mind.

Holy shiat she gave an awesome smackdown.