Terrifying for whom, exactly?

The "Obama Doctrine"?

In what respect?

Heaven forbid we talk to our enemies to see if we can work something out before we nuke them form orbit. And a pox on us all if we give a little tough love to our friends and tell them to knock it off a bit because they're acting like a tard.

In what respect, Ralph?

The combination of dizzying naivete, dislike of our allies, disdain for our military, distrust of our intelligence services and distaste for our own country promises the worst foreign policy of our lifetimes.

I used to take drugs, too.

Problems can be negotiated away. From Somali pirates to Moscow's belligerency, Obama and his Cabinet see a good chat as the best response to a challenge. Our president got to the Oval Office by talking, not doing, and his faith in his powers of persuasion is unlimited.


Obama sent Navy SEALS in to "chat" with Somali pirates. What he didn't do was swagger around his living room acting like a macho asshole with a stupid factory-fresh cowboy hat on and a "what's going on here" look smacked all over his chevy chase.

Obama is just a sock puppet for George Soros and other leftist haters - makes you wonder who Reagan II will be in 4 years, doesn't it?

what_now: The "Obama Doctrine"?

In what respect?

WinRAR!

He must be able to see Russia from his house.

LordZorch: Obama is just a sock puppet for George Soros and other leftist haters - makes you wonder who Reagan II will be in 4 years, doesn't it?

Shut up, LordZorch, you cock.

Well... no word yet on if it's going to be worse than Carter, it's only been 100 days so let's give him a chance.

It is, however, looking pretty bad so far.

FTA: From Somali pirates to Moscow's belligerency, Obama and his Cabinet see a good chat as the best response to a challenge.

Yeah. Because diplomacy and dialogue-opening are WAY worse courses of action than the asshole cowboy isolationism that's worked so well for us the last eight years. God forbid we talk to other countries in an attempt to foster a better relationship with them rather than just bomb the living $#!+ out of them if they don't agree with us and/or are full of brown people.

U.S.A.! U.S.A.!! U.S.A.!!!

Tatsuma: Well... no word yet on if it's going to be worse than Carter, it's only been 100 days so let's give him a chance.

It is, however, looking pretty bad so far.

What, isn't he sucking Isreal's cock enough for you?

He's doing just fine so far.

Tor_Eckman: What, isn't he sucking Isreal's cock enough for you?

Finally! I was waiting for some intellectually-stimulating discussions on Fark, I'm glad to have finally found someone who is definitely up to par for that.

Islamist terrorism doesn't exist. The term's even been banned from government departments.

Is this true?

thamike: Obama sent Navy SEALS in to "chat" with Somali pirates.

ZOMG!! He had nothing to do with that!! ZOMG!! He just got in the way!!

Tatsuma: It is, however, looking pretty bad so far.

How, exactly, is it looking bad so far?

If you use handshakes and gift giving in your explanation, then I'm gonna start laughing.

Tatsuma: It is, however, looking pretty bad so far.

How has his foreign policy been bad so far?

Tatsuma: Tor_Eckman: What, isn't he sucking Isreal's cock enough for you?

Finally! I was waiting for some intellectually-stimulating discussions on Fark, I'm glad to have finally found someone who is definitely up to par for that.

Why beat around the bush? Everything comes down to what is best for Isreal with you. I see no reason to go round and round when the end result is always the same.

KaponoFor3: Islamist terrorism doesn't exist. The term's even been banned from government departments.

Is this true?

Well probably, because it really farks with the English language.

Tor_Eckman: What, isn't he sucking Isreal's cock enough for you?

Learn to spell my man -- hard to take anyone serious on Israel/Palestinian discussions that can't even spell the country's name correctly.

Not this shiat again

MaxxLarge: FTA: From Somali pirates to Moscow's belligerency, Obama and his Cabinet see a good chat as the best response to a challenge.

Yeah. Because diplomacy and dialogue-opening are WAY worse courses of action than the asshole cowboy isolationism that's worked so well for us the last eight years. God forbid we talk to other countries in an attempt to foster a better relationship with them rather than just bomb the living $#!+ out of them if they don't agree with us and/or are full of brown people.

U.S.A.! U.S.A.!! U.S.A.!!!

KaponoFor3: Is this true?

The NYPost has a long and proud history of reporting things without distortion or just outright pulling things out of thin air.

MaxxLarge: Yeah. Because diplomacy and dialogue-opening are WAY worse courses of action than the asshole cowboy isolationism that's worked so well for us the last eight years. God forbid we talk to other countries in an attempt to foster a better relationship with them rather than just bomb the living $#!+ out of them if they don't agree with us and/or are full of brown people.

Don't you know? You can't be taken seriously if you aren't up there waving around your giant thermonuclear man-meat and stomping on enough brown people to make Hitler envious.

what_now: Well probably, because it really farks with the English language

It seems like the author is implying the divorcing of the term "terrorism" from any connotations with fundamental Islamist ideology. I am just wondering whether or not that is true.

thamike:
Obama sent Navy SEALS in to "chat" with Somali pirates. What he didn't do was swagger around his living room acting like a macho asshole with a stupid factory-fresh cowboy hat on and a "what's going on here" look smacked all over his chevy chase.


Anyone else want to negotiate?

Oh, and by the by - Carter's foreign policy was far from the worst evar. Last time I checked, he was instrumental in brokering a peace accord between Egypt and Israel (still the ONLY official peace between a Muslim mid-east country and the Jewish state) that's still being honored three decades later.

So, bag on the guy all you want, but that's more international bridge-building than Bush ever did.

Bored Horde: The NYPost has a long and proud history of reporting things without distortion or just outright pulling things out of thin air.

Hence my asking. I figure if they sent out a directive on this (i.e. don't use this term anymore), we would have heard about it just like we heard about Overseas Contingency Operations.

thamike: Problems can be negotiated away. From Somali pirates to Moscow's belligerency, Obama and his Cabinet see a good chat as the best response to a challenge. Our president got to the Oval Office by talking, not doing, and his faith in his powers of persuasion is unlimited.


Obama sent Navy SEALS in to "chat" with Somali pirates.



"What do you want me to do, kill him again?"

This is bad news... for Obama.

KaponoFor3: Is this true?

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say they used that report that called things "man-made disasters" or whatever the f*ck it was and extrapolated to a far more interesting assumption.

Of course, that line you quoted is repeated exactly in a russian news article, so maybe the Russians got a jump on the news story ahead of every english speaking news agency except for the Post.

MaxxLarge: he was instrumental in brokering a peace accord between Egypt and Israel (still the ONLY official peace between a Muslim mid-east country and the Jewish state)

Jordan would like to have a word with you.

MaxxLarge: Oh, and by the by - Carter's foreign policy was far from the worst evar. Last time I checked, he was instrumental in brokering a peace accord between Egypt and Israel (still the ONLY official peace between a Muslim mid-east country and the Jewish state) that's still being honored three decades later.

So, bag on the guy all you want, but that's more international bridge-building than Bush ever did.

We're America, asshole. We don't build bridges like a some kind of pussy, we BLOW THEM THE FU*K UP!!!

KaponoFor3: Tor_Eckman: What, isn't he sucking Isreal's cock enough for you?

Learn to spell my man -- hard to take anyone serious on Israel/Palestinian discussions that can't even spell the country's name correctly.

There is no word or phrase in the English language that can express how little I care about what you think.

Because Bush's foreign policy worked out so well....

Tor_Eckman: There is no word or phrase in the English language that can express how little I care about what you think.

Oh, I know. I just think its hard to take into account whatever your opinion is when, you know, you are talking about Isreal.

KaponoFor3: It seems like the author is implying the divorcing of the term "terrorism" from any connotations with fundamental Islamist ideology. I am just wondering whether or not that is true.

I have no idea, because unlike the NYPost, I'm not hung up on semantics. Whenever the government "officially" changes the name of something it annoys me because it makes me wonder how much it cost me for 6 bureaucrats to sit in a room and come up with that.

/biatchiness not aimed at you, btw.
//this time.

KaponoFor3: Hence my asking. I figure if they sent out a directive on this (i.e. don't use this term anymore), we would have heard about it just like we heard about Overseas Contingency Operations.

It's not a bad idea. Trying to simplify the actions of extremist sects found in a population of over a billion into a single lumped group is lazy and stupid

what_now: I'm not hung up on semantics.

Cool, so are you pro-choice? If so, does that mean I get to call you pro-abortion?

/not serious
//showing the importance of language and framing issues

Tatsuma: Well... no word yet on if it's going to be worse than Carter, it's only been 100 days so let's give him a chance.

It is, however, looking pretty bad so far.

Holy balls, you are such a smug, pointless asshole.

MaxxLarge:
So, bag on the guy all you want, but that's more international bridge-building than Bush ever did.

Well to be fair, Bush did way more international nation-building than Carter ever did.

Yay for tabloid news!

"We're to blame. If there are problems anywhere, they're America's fault. This central conviction of leftist ideology appears to have soaked so thoroughly into our president's consciousness during his lengthy friendships with extremists that it's now second nature to him."

I think it's refreshing to have an american president actually acknowledge that the us, the 5000 pound gorilla on the block has actually made mistakes that have consequences, unlike... most other presidents.

taliban? i don't know what you're talking about. i don't know where the taliban came from... we gave them shiatloads of money and weapons and suddenly we're not bffs anymore wah.

KaponoFor3: Cool, so are you pro-choice? If so, does that mean I get to call you pro-abortion?

I *am* pro abortion!! But only for stupid people.

KaponoFor3: //showing the importance of language and framing issues

No, I understand that. Death tax vrs. Estate tax is a perfect example. But it still annoys me when the gov comes out with these "official" language changes. I have to deal with them at work, and it annoys the fark out of me when I need to recode 50 different web pages because the ED decided to change one word on a Loan name.

*breathe in*
*breathe out*

"The butthurt is strong in this one"

*breathe in*
*breathe out*

do we have a contingency to nitpick about just in case this "terrorism" terminology thing isn't true ? The stupid libs have to be wrong about something, so let's get it rocking already.

beerrun: Well to be fair, Bush did way more international nation-building than Carter ever did.

His entire Flat-Earth motif really worked.

Epsilon: Because Bush's foreign policy worked out so well....

Well it may not have worked, but it produced a lot of sexy bomb camera videos and torture porn. And really what is more important, effective foreign policy, or neocon hard-ons?

what_now: But it still annoys me when the gov comes out with these "official" language changes. I have to deal with them at work, and it annoys the fark out of me when I need to recode 50 different web pages because the ED decided to change one word on a Loan name.

You won't find disagreement with me on this one.

Code_Archeologist: neocon hard-ons

Good band name