At that point, onlookers jumped into the water, brought the boys onto the sand and checked them over to make sure they were all right.

The boys were fine. But when the beachgoers looked back at the water, they found Schulze floating face-down

So a bunch of people scrambled in to get the boys, and none of them thought to help the old man?

This is where the Florida tag steps in...

Lionel Mandrake: So a bunch of people scrambled in to get the boys, and none of them thought to help the old man?

That was the first thing I thought too.

Lionel Mandrake:
So a bunch of people scrambled in to get the boys, and none of them thought to help the old man?


They probably thought he was a child molester and beat him with sticks.

He was old. That's what old people do. They die.

I hear most child drownings in Mexico are from exported U.S. pools.

/Freakonomics FTW

Kierkegaard's Pseudonym: He was old. That's what old people do. They die.


Then he should have just let the little crotchfruit drown and he would still be alive and then he would die of the Swine Flu.

/no win

FTFA:
"The man who pulled Schulze from the ocean swallowed some water during the attempted rescue"

And, let me guess, it was hard to tell the water from the other water?

His girlfriend witnessed the whole thing and didn't bother to tell anyone he was face-down in the water?

So why didn't some of them jump in to save the boys? Was he the only one that could swim?

TooNiceforFark: His girlfriend witnessed the whole thing and didn't bother to tell anyone he was face-down in the water?

insurance policy

Lionel Mandrake: So a bunch of people scrambled in to get the boys, and none of them thought to help the old man?

Seriously. Florida scares me sometimes.

Lionel Mandrake: At that point, onlookers jumped into the water, brought the boys onto the sand and checked them over to make sure they were all right.

The boys were fine. But when the beachgoers looked back at the water, they found Schulze floating face-down

So a bunch of people scrambled in to get the boys, and none of them thought to help the old man?

This is where the Florida tag steps in...

This. Assholes.

"the sea was angry that day my friends"
i blame the sea.

rainbow sprinkles: Lionel Mandrake: So a bunch of people scrambled in to get the boys, and none of them thought to help the old man?

Seriously. Florida scares me sometimes.

Only sometimes?

Lionel Mandrake: At that point, onlookers jumped into the water, brought the boys onto the sand and checked them over to make sure they were all right.

The boys were fine. But when the beachgoers looked back at the water, they found Schulze floating face-down

So a bunch of people scrambled in to get the boys, and none of them thought to help the old man?

This is where the Florida tag steps in...


Makes as much sense as having kids swim in the same area where you're chumming for sharks.

Good grief.

Lionel Mandrake: At that point, onlookers jumped into the water, brought the boys onto the sand and checked them over to make sure they were all right.

The boys were fine. But when the beachgoers looked back at the water, they found Schulze floating face-down

So a bunch of people scrambled in to get the boys, and none of them thought to help the old man?

This is where the Florida tag steps in...

This is because most people in Florida are not from Florida, especially in Pompano. All the assholes tend to float down here.

I'm going for the benefit of the doubt that Charles Schulze brought the boys nearly to shore, onlookers jumped in to help after realizing something was wrong, then Charles collapsed from the effort as they brought the kids in. Stuff happens quickly in emergencies. He may have just fainted and gone into respiratory arrest from being face-down in the water too long.

/If it's worth anything, Charles, that's a great way to step out.
//My condolences to his family and friends.

godspeed oldtimer.

you truly are a hero.

as for the asshats on the beach, well, i don't wanna flex my ITG muscles, so i'll just say Shame On You All.

Apik0r0s: Lionel Mandrake:

Makes as much sense as having kids swim in the same area where you're chumming for sharks.

This! Watched a guy chumming while kids were swimming on a beach near Charleston. Illegal but hey - he was on vacation.

CapStormfield: Apik0r0s: Lionel Mandrake:

Makes as much sense as having kids swim in the same area where you're chumming for sharks.

This! Watched a guy chumming while kids were swimming on a beach near Charleston. Illegal but hey - he was on vacation.

what? Should I not have done that?

/raised in Florida
//stupidity exponentially increases southerly and easterly
///could not wait to escape

hard earned hero tag.

/but earned none the less

Some people will do anything to get out of Floriduh.

/Seriously, good on him.

AirForceVet: I'm going for the benefit of the doubt that Charles Schulze brought the boys nearly to shore, onlookers jumped in to help after realizing something was wrong, then Charles collapsed from the effort as they brought the kids in. Stuff happens quickly in emergencies. He may have just fainted and gone into respiratory arrest from being face-down in the water too long.

/If it's worth anything, Charles, that's a great way to step out.
//My condolences to his family and friends.

I bet Snoopy is now inconsolable...

rainbow sprinkles: Lionel Mandrake: So a bunch of people scrambled in to get the boys, and none of them thought to help the old man?

Seriously. Florida scares me sometimes.

If someone is caught in a rip current, you're unlikely to be able to help if you don't realize you're caught in one and know how to get out. This man probably saved the lives of two panicking children by keeping them afloat while attempting to fight the current, exhausting himself quickly. And unless he was a capable swimmer, they were probably swept far away from shore.

Lionel Mandrake: So a bunch of people scrambled in to get the boys, and none of them thought to help the old man?

I could easily see people being concerned about the kids to the point of thinking that it was the kids who needed saved and the old guy was fine. It's pretty easy to get tunnel vision in an emergency like that.

In a more philosophical sense, does this act truly demand the hero tag? Since the tag is "hero," it is referring to a person or agent. The act itself could be "heroic" but never "hero." Do we know enough about this man's life to justify classifying him as a hero without knowing what the other seventy years entailed? This could be a heroic blip in an otherwise evil existence.

daffy Quote 2009-04-26 07:15:58 PM
So why didn't some of them jump in to save the boys? Was he the only one that could swim?


They were liberals. Liberals mind their own business as I have been told. That is what makes them better than Conservatives, Fundies, Catholics. By not helping, they weren't pushing their morals onto other people.

I can't help it. I was touched by this man's sacrifice. I'm sure he wasn't planning to drown, but there was a chance it could happen, and he went into the water anyway to save those boys. There are so many ways to die, but that isn't the worst way to leave the world that I can think of. I hope he lived long enough to know that they'd be alright.

sheilanagig: I can't help it. I was touched by this man's sacrifice. I'm sure he wasn't planning to drown, but there was a chance it could happen, and he went into the water anyway to save those boys. There are so many ways to die, but that isn't the worst way to leave the world that I can think of. I hope he lived long enough to know that they'd be alright.

Boy is his face going to be red when those kids grow up to betray us to the Cylons.

Kierkegaard's Pseudonym: Boy is his face going to be red when those kids grow up to betray us to the Cylons.

Remember? He didn't live to see the day? shiat. Sorry to spoil it for you.

Kierkegaard's Pseudonym: In a more philosophical sense, does this act truly demand the hero tag? Since the tag is "hero," it is referring to a person or agent. The act itself could be "heroic" but never "hero." Do we know enough about this man's life to justify classifying him as a hero without knowing what the other seventy years entailed? This could be a heroic blip in an otherwise evil existence.

How's that degree suiting your burger flipping career?

Regardless, it doesn't follow that an evil man would suddenly have the impulse to risk his life for two children he doesn't know.

Boxiao: Regardless, it doesn't follow that an evil man would suddenly have the impulse to risk his life for two children he doesn't know.

No one in the history of the world has led an evil existence and decided at the last moment to do something good?

Sneakytoes: Good grief.

Lionel Mandrake: So a bunch of people scrambled in to get the boys, and none of them thought to help the old man?

Given that he'd just rescued the other two, I'd have hastily assumed he was competent to make it to shore before I turned my attention to the two non-adults who had just nearly drowned.

Another man jumped into the water and pulled Schulze to shore. But despite the efforts of some beachgoers who performed CPR, the boys' rescuer was pronounced dead a short time later at Holy Cross Hospital in Fort Lauderdale.

FTA, it looks like they hadn't left the old man alone for long enough for it to make a difference in his condition. His own near-drowning combined with his age did him in.

St.John 15:13

AirForceVet: I'm going for the benefit of the doubt that Charles Schulze brought the boys nearly to shore, onlookers jumped in to help after realizing something was wrong, then Charles collapsed from the effort as they brought the kids in. Stuff happens quickly in emergencies. He may have just fainted and gone into respiratory arrest from being face-down in the water too long.

/If it's worth anything, Charles, that's a great way to step out.
//My condolences to his family and friends.

My money would be on a heart attack. At that age with the excercion of dragging the boys to safety and the epinephrine pumping it would be easy to see an arrythmia advancing to cardiac arrest.

But really, what a good way to die. He lived 70 years and will be remembered by his friends and family as dying to save some kids. Good show.

Boxiao: Kierkegaard's Pseudonym:
Regardless, it doesn't follow that an evil man would suddenly have the impulse to risk his life for two children he doesn't know.

So true. Reminds me of the rising football star who said something like "I can't swim very well but those kids are going to drown if I don't try." I believe those were his last words. (Happened years ago.)

can't think of a better way to die

Gee... this guy missed his chance to die an empty, meaningless, degrading death in some hospital room.

Godspeed.

Sneakytoes: Good grief.

Came in for the Peanuts...

/left satisfied
//Disappointed to see this all the way down in the 17th post

AirForceVet,

Are you the devil? I liked you comment so I checked your profile... that's an interesting number of approved links. Anything you'd like to share?

What a great man. God speed sir!

"No greater love that a man lay down his life for his friends."

- The Bible

davynelson: can't think of a better way to die

Well, not in public, or wearing clothes, no.

It could only have better if the kids he saved were his own grandchildren.

Regardless, the man lost his life saving kids who couldn't save their own. I'm sure someone like that will be missed.

My condolences to his family.

davynelson: can't think of a better way to die

Two chicks at the same time comes to mind.

Pribar: St.John 15:13

yes, and

AirForceVet: I'm going for the benefit of the doubt that Charles Schulze brought the boys nearly to shore, onlookers jumped in to help after realizing something was wrong, then Charles collapsed from the effort as they brought the kids in. Stuff happens quickly in emergencies. He may have just fainted and gone into respiratory arrest from being face-down in the water too long.

/If it's worth anything, Charles, that's a great way to step out.
//My condolences to his family and friends.

yes.

Gentlemen, THIS is how you die.

Lionel Mandrake: So a bunch of people scrambled in to get the boys, and none of them thought to help the old man?


They were probably all Yankees. New Yorkers, most likely.