Kelly McGillis? Smoking hot? Not so much.

Alice Greczyn, however...

Otto's_Jacket: Kelly McGillis? Smoking hot? Not so much.

Took my breath away.

This cute Mennonite girl at the country store used to make eyes at me every time I stopped by. And even with the apparel designed to make her look plain, I could tell she was pretty hot. But I smoke and drink and cuss and I'm a hard agnostic, so there was no way I was going to wade into that community. They're nice people, though.

The heat that girl was putting off was amazing. For a while there I found myself aroused anytime I was around bulk foods and quilts.

Obnox: Otto's_Jacket: Kelly McGillis? Smoking hot? Not so much.

Took my breath away.


Not in the good "1986 Berlin video" kind of way I'm sure.

Headline: Four things to consider before you try to join the Amish. "Are all Amish women as smoking hot as Kelly McGillis?" curiously absent for good reason

I'd love to join something like the Amish...growing my own food, honest work, etc...I just wish they weren't such luddites...

5) Knowing the difference between a cow and a bull...

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Abstruse: I'd love to join something like the Amish...growing my own food, honest work, etc...I just wish they weren't such luddites...

Luddites? I think that's an overstatement. My mother and sister used to know an Amish family who had no issues with occasionally calling on a pay phone and asking for a ride into town.

I don't think it's that they're opposed to modern technology, it seems like more of a "personal choice" based on their religious beliefs.

You might look into the Mennonites, they drive cars and stuff.

the amish have a high incidences of molestation and spousal abuse in the community

keflex

the amish have a high incidences of molestation and spousal abuse in the community

And your source or support for this blanket assertion is ... ????

Obnox: This cute Mennonite girl at the country store used to make eyes at me every time I stopped by. And even with the apparel designed to make her look plain, I could tell she was pretty hot. But I smoke and drink and cuss and I'm a hard agnostic, so there was no way I was going to wade into that community. They're nice people, though.

The heat that girl was putting off was amazing. For a while there I found myself aroused anytime I was around bulk foods and quilts.

Yeah I used to work for Mennonites when I was in college. There were quit a lots of girls that were very pretty even without makeup and other beauty accessories. They weren't quite as innocent as they'd lead you to believe either.

Why did the Amish woman kill her husband?


Because he drove her buggy.


/here all week

I want head from an Amish chick because I think the beard would tickle.

L Buff: keflex

the amish have a high incidences of molestation and spousal abuse in the community

And your source or support for this blanket assertion is ... ????

Link (new window)

They left off

#5: AMISH DO NOT DO 'CONVERTS'

Amish are a cultural thing as much as religious.

If you don't have Pennsylvania-Dutch ancestry, speak the Amish dialect, and have had lifetime contact with an Amish community, they wouldn't just 'take' you as Amish. Nor have I heard of any ability to marry into the Amish community. It is very rare for anyone to have left the Amish and returned, or anyone from the family started outside. Maybe never for all I know.

Simply knowing the version of the bible they worship and being able to live without electricity doesn't do it. A person would still be totally foreign and would not fit into their community. And the Amish community is essentially defined by its rigid stability. There will be no new technology or social elements. I mean sure there's no Twitter but even if you introduced a new way of "passing notes" as social contact it probably would be rejected as non-Amish. If you don't know that, you definitely don't know Amish.

They do get approached periodically by neo-hippies wanting to leave it all behind. You know, join the circus. The message is "well, if you wish to practice austere, simple, religious living, sounds like a fine choice and we wish you the best of luck, but you're NOT Amish."

keflex: L Buff: keflex

the amish have a high incidences of molestation and spousal abuse in the community

And your source or support for this blanket assertion is ... ????

Link (new window)

I was going to say "Wikipedia" myself, but they don't say it happens in all of the communities on there. Some of the cases mentioned are pretty nasty though.

FTA:

Turns out, several counties in east-central Ohio are actually home to the largest Amish community in the world--population 29,000, and growing.

In the mid 1970's I delivered natural and organic food products for a small natural foods distributor (Eden Foods, Inc. ...located at the time in Ann Arbor MI) throughout Ohio, West Virginia, and Indiana. In doing so, I had several occasions to deal with members of both the Amish and Mennonite communities and always found them without fail to be the most generous and kind-spirited people I had ever encountered.

And they LIVE the Bible ... they don't just quote it. If anyone needed any clearer example of that concept, the massacre of the Amish schoolchildren in Lancaster County PA in 2006 and the subsequent forgiveness of the killer by the majority of the immediate Amish community bears witness. I myself could not do that.

Lists a number of reasons why it's not so nice

L Buff: FTA:

Turns out, several counties in east-central Ohio are actually home to the largest Amish community in the world--population 29,000, and growing.

In the mid 1970's I delivered natural and organic food products for a small natural foods distributor (Eden Foods, Inc. ...located at the time in Ann Arbor MI) throughout Ohio, West Virginia, and Indiana. In doing so, I had several occasions to deal with members of both the Amish and Mennonite communities and always found them without fail to be the most generous and kind-spirited people I had ever encountered.

And they LIVE the Bible ... they don't just quote it. If anyone needed any clearer example of that concept, the massacre of the Amish schoolchildren in Lancaster County PA in 2006 and the subsequent forgiveness of the killer by the majority of the immediate Amish community bears witness. I myself could not do that.

They live the parts of their religion that cater to their ideas and ignore the parts they don't, just as everyone else who believes in religion does.

L Buff:

And they LIVE the Bible ... they don't just quote it. If anyone needed any clearer example of that concept, the massacre of the Amish schoolchildren in Lancaster County PA in 2006 and the subsequent forgiveness of the killer by the majority of the immediate Amish community bears witness. I myself could not do that.

Bible thumpers can sure learn a lot from them.

I did a research paper a long time ago about the Amish community, and it turns out that the average Amish is still smarter than the average regular American schooled in public schools, even though most Amish only have an 8th grade level education.

aniyn: ...Some of the cases mentioned are pretty nasty though.

You should just read what Iran Daily says about us asshat Americans....it is really horrible and it's apparently ALL true!! It's always easy to downgrade people for their beliefs from an -at most- irrelevant website no one knows about or even looks at. Especially when you idiots KNOW that the ones being attacked don't have computers to defend themselves. But I'm just like you guys; I've got some KKK website addresses that tell all the bad stuff about the "mud people". I'm sure you will believe all of it too...

I'm half Amish, so I'm getting a real kick out of these replies, since I'm surely going to hell for turning my back on the community as I type on my magical typewriter.

bingo the psych-o: They live the parts of their religion that cater to their ideas and ignore the parts they don't, just as everyone else who believes in religion does.

FTFY

bingo the psych-o: L Buff: FTA:

Turns out, several counties in east-central Ohio are actually home to the largest Amish community in the world--population 29,000, and growing.

In the mid 1970's I delivered natural and organic food products for a small natural foods distributor (Eden Foods, Inc. ...located at the time in Ann Arbor MI) throughout Ohio, West Virginia, and Indiana. In doing so, I had several occasions to deal with members of both the Amish and Mennonite communities and always found them without fail to be the most generous and kind-spirited people I had ever encountered.

And they LIVE the Bible ... they don't just quote it. If anyone needed any clearer example of that concept, the massacre of the Amish schoolchildren in Lancaster County PA in 2006 and the subsequent forgiveness of the killer by the majority of the immediate Amish community bears witness. I myself could not do that.

They live the parts of their religion that cater to their ideas and ignore the parts they don't, just as everyone else who believes in religion does.

You're right, they should all be shot, those friendly bastards. Always smiling and being nice, who the fark do they think they are.

keflex: L Buff: keflex

the amish have a high incidences of molestation and spousal abuse in the community

And your source or support for this blanket assertion is ... ????

Link (new window)

"No statistics are available, but..."

steelpeg: aniyn: ...Some of the cases mentioned are pretty nasty though.

It's always easy to downgrade people for their beliefs from an -at most- irrelevant website no one knows about or even looks at. Especially when you idiots KNOW that the ones being attacked don't have computers to defend themselves. But I'm just like you guys; I've got some KKK website addresses that tell all the bad stuff about the "mud people". I'm sure you will believe all of it too...

Shut up troll.

talk to me Goose... yeah I agree. Nasty.

I find it interesting how some Amish shun modern technology as long as it is absolutely convenient. I know a number of them who do not have a phone or car, but own a cell phone or bum a ride from 'the English.' We have many Amish just north of here, and their houses are easy to spot. Besides the requisite buggy and clothes line, they lack the power lines going to the house. Many have generators, usuallly to operate medical equipment, and some will use it to power clothes irons. It is usually kept out back so the neighbors can't see. Some are installing photovoltaic power. Link (new window)

RUMSPRINGAHHH!!

Rhino_man: Alice Greczyn, however...

I had no idea she was amish.

I work with a secretary who is formerly Amish, now "English", so I am getting a kick out of these replies. I also use to frequent Lancaster County, PA when I was growing up.

/Still quite a few Amish a few miles north of New Castle, PA, where I work.

Came for an Amish Rake Fight reference, leaving disappointed.

Amish Girls gone wild.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQnFyPcTl6E

The goal of the Amish is not to shun technology. It is to be apart from the world. They have electric generators for milking equipment and milk coolers, for example, and then might use that to run a washing machine in the house. But they are forbidden to be attached to the grid because that would be too connected and would allow them to use electricity that they didn't own and then have to pay for it at the end of the month. They tried tractors in the 20s and 30s but rejected them because a farmer with a tractor could farm too much land and not need his neighbors help with haying, threshing, etc. If one farmer had 80 acres but needed 160 acres to support his tractor-farming lifestyle, another farmer had to give up his 80 acres to allow that.

I've known a lot of Amish. Some of them know that, to an outsider, the rules look ridiculous. But they are what they are.

I find it funny how most of you talking have no first hand experience with the community.

1) Amish don't shun technology; The rule is that if the community finds something to be unnecessary or a bad influence on the family and community, it's not allowed in the home.
-Example 1: cars. They're not allowed to own a car, but that doesn't preclude them from riding in a car. You'll often see Amish riding in large 15-passenger vans as you're going down the PA Turnpike on your way to Philthydelphia. Companies know the Amish do some of the best carpentry in the world and will hire them and transport them. They sometimes need to visit the doctor too.
-Example 2: Phones. They're not allowed to have a phone in the house as it would "Allow the outside world into the home". That means they don't want Telemarketers calling, or the ability for the people in the family to be tempted by 900 numbers. I know many Amish who have phones in the barn. It's not quite but almost always for emergencies only.

2)Like any society, there is a bad element. The difference is that while we take a known criminal, convict them and send them to a cell to rot, if an Amish community finds a criminal, the community rallies around them and tries to help or rehabilitate them. With the first example of the little girl that the rape story is about, if she didn't ask for help when it was happening, then how were they to know? It's the same situation in our world.

3)Don't buy the magic heaters you see on TV and in Parade Magazine, they're not really made by Amish. Most Amish don't allow themselves to be photographed, let alone video recorded because it's a sign of vanity, the same as decorations on their clothing. If you see what you think is an Amish woman riding a bike, roller skating, what have you and she's wearing a flower print dress, she's Mennonite. Amish wear pretty much what you see Miss McGillis up there wearing, black and blue.

4)Mennonites are generally any more modern. Just like Amish, there are sects, and there's a sect that 98% of you wouldn't be able to tell aren't Amish call Old Order Mennonite. Want to know the difference? OOM's drive Black buggys, Amish drive Gray.

Oh, you want my references?
1) Dad's Parents (My grandparents) were the first generation in that family to be allowed to own a car.
2) Grandma's still at Sunday services every day without leaving her rest home. Her home only allows Mennonites. Dad and I would never be allowed.
3) I grew up here: Click for Google Map My local bike shop was an Amishman who would speak PA Dutch to you the first time you walked in.

4)Mennonites are aren't generally any more modern.

After reading the comments on that horrific site I must conclude that BoingBoing is a hate site filled with much slander against people who choose a different lifestyle. A lot like Fark has become over the years.

If you want quality furniture - buy Amish
If you want a well built home and very reasonably - have the Amish build it
I have found the Amish to be a very polite and friendly people. No where have I ever seen any abuse of animals, women or children any more than with the 'Enlightened', 'Civilized' people who are demonizing them. But when you're a bigot, it is easy to generalize a few cases to the masses while overlooking those same things happening in your life style.

It's one thing to poke fun at someone. it is another to spew hate filled bigotry at them.

Maturin:
I find it interesting how some Amish shun modern technology as long as it is absolutely convenient. I know a number of them who do not have a phone or car, but own a cell phone or bum a ride from 'the English.' We have many Amish just north of here, and their houses are easy to spot. Besides the requisite buggy and clothes line, they lack the power lines going to the house. Many have generators, usuallly to operate medical equipment, and some will use it to power clothes irons. It is usually kept out back so the neighbors can't see. Some are installing photovoltaic power. Link (new window)

They don't spurn technology because it is inherently evil, only because they believe it diminishes the community's cohesiveness. A "low-tech" barn raising is not just a building project to them, it's a social event that reminds everyone "who their neighbours are" and how much they need each others' help.
Older Amish farmers without sons to help on the farm are often allowed to use tractors. They can use the most modern medical care if it is needed. They will often use shared telephones to interact with "us" and in emergencies.

They would, however, see Twitter as a technology that not only isolates friends from each other, but also instills vanity (do your friends really need to get 5-minute updates on your every activity and thought?)

Mongo cut wood: After reading the comments on that horrific site I must conclude that BoingBoing is a hate site filled with much slander against people who choose a different lifestyle. A lot like Fark has become over the years.

If you want quality furniture - buy Amish
If you want a well built home and very reasonably - have the Amish build it
I have found the Amish to be a very polite and friendly people. No where have I ever seen any abuse of animals, women or children any more than with the 'Enlightened', 'Civilized' people who are demonizing them. But when you're a bigot, it is easy to generalize a few cases to the masses while overlooking those same things happening in your life style.

It's one thing to poke fun at someone. it is another to spew hate filled bigotry at them.

Link (new window) Quick google on Sex abuse in Amish communities.

Link (new window) we also have a huge problem with animal abuse in PA from the Amish.


Yes, the Amish might "surround and rehabillitae a sexual abuser" within their community, but they refuse to report it to the law. This is exactly what the Roman Catholic church did. And if the abuser keeps on abusing? they keep trying to rehabilitate em.

Most are of course nice, they grow great vegetables, but i've seen one too many black eyes.

Mongo cut wood: No where have I ever seen any abuse of animals, women or children any more than with the 'Enlightened', 'Civilized' people who are demonizing them. But when you're a bigot, it is easy to generalize a few cases to the masses while overlooking those same things happening in your life style.

Look harder. It's one thing to forgive your neighbor, it's another to look past systemic abuse because they do good works too.

/State College PA
//Raised Roman Catholic

Mongo cut wood: After reading the comments on that horrific site I must conclude that BoingBoing is a hate site filled with much slander against people who choose a different lifestyle. A lot like Fark has become over the years.

If you want quality furniture - buy Amish
If you want a well built home and very reasonably - have the Amish build it
I have found the Amish to be a very polite and friendly people. No where have I ever seen any abuse of animals, women or children any more than with the 'Enlightened', 'Civilized' people who are demonizing them. But when you're a bigot, it is easy to generalize a few cases to the masses while overlooking those same things happening in your life style.

It's one thing to poke fun at someone. it is another to spew hate filled bigotry at them.

While I'm in consensus with your statement about Fark getting an unfortunate 4chan (or similar-minded) infusion of people over the years.

The only thing I'd add is this:

Don't assume that the Amish are business idiots. When your entire lifestyle is conservative, your business choices don't tend to be fast and loose.

cowsspinach: Welcome to Fark.

You mean welcome to 'Fark-Nouveau'.

Obnox: This cute Mennonite girl at the country store used to make eyes at me every time I stopped by. And even with the apparel designed to make her look plain, I could tell she was pretty hot. But I smoke and drink and cuss and I'm a hard agnostic, so there was no way I was going to wade into that community. They're nice people, though.

The heat that girl was putting off was amazing. For a while there I found myself aroused anytime I was around bulk foods and quilts.



Rumspringa (new window)

Seriously, you didn't have to wade in, she had the opportunity to wade out. Sounds like she was BEGGING for it... Missed your chance!

FTA: Will You Be Able to Buy a Farm? It's harder than it sounds. There are two things working against you. First, that whole population growth issue means that every generation sees even more young men in need of a farm of their own.

And their kind doesn't die.

Bollocks. People that want to be left in solitude don't distribute maps to their towns, restaurants, shops etcetera.

"That's not evidence. That's a website."