But it wasn't tax day that made them crazy; it was election day. Because that's when Republicans became what they fear most: a minority.

I'm so proud and happy to be in the minority, if being in the majority means I'm like Perez Hilton and Bill Maher.

Live long and prosper.

Perez Hilton is an embarrassment to the human race, mkfreeberg, not just to the Democrats.

MKFREEBIRD!!

Waves Bic lighter...

Still pimping your Wonder Woman blog you rebel?

"But they cling to the tired old ideas, never once re-evaluating them." Defining pseudo-conservatives and projection in one small sentence. Good work freebird.

So let's see those ideas work.

So far, all I've seen anyone do is bash Republicans and spend taxpayer money. Then it's back to campaign mode again.

Aren't you guys ever out of campaign mode? I know the Miss California/Perez Hilton exchange has left you feeling exposed, like suddenly Mister Average Guy can see you're a bunch of mean dimwits. But your defensive mechanism shows nothing but more of the same, and...y'know, right about now you're supposed to be fixing things instead of campaigning, remember that?

mkfreeberg: But it wasn't tax day that made them crazy; it was election day. Because that's when Republicans became what they fear most: a minority.

I'm so proud and happy to be in the minority, if being in the majority means I'm like Perez Hilton and Bill Maher.

Live long and prosper.

Jesus Wept, you are a moron.

mkfreeberg: So let's see those ideas work.

So far, all I've seen anyone do is bash Republicans and spend taxpayer money. Then it's back to campaign mode again.

Aren't you guys ever out of campaign mode? I know the Miss California/Perez Hilton exchange has left you feeling exposed, like suddenly Mister Average Guy can see you're a bunch of mean dimwits. But your defensive mechanism shows nothing but more of the same, and...y'know, right about now you're supposed to be fixing things instead of campaigning, remember that?

Loser.

mkfreeberg: I know the Miss California/Perez Hilton exchange has left you feeling exposed, like suddenly Mister Average Guy can see you're a bunch of mean dimwits.

Unfortunately for you, Mister Average Guy is smart enough to realize that one mean dimwit does not mean everyone else is also a mean dimwit. That is, Mister Average Guy is smarter that you, mkfreeberg.

mkfreeper.. "you're supposed to be fixing things.."


How about:

Passing the "largest" economic stimulus bill in American history.

Ordering the closing of Guantanamo Bay military detention facility and abolishing "enhanced interrogation techniques."

Setting a fixed timetable for withdrawing U.S. combat forces from Iraq.
Ordering 21,000 additional troops to Afghanistan and enlisting, with modest new assistance, European allies in a new multi-layered strategy there and in Pakistan.

"Returning science to its rightful place" by lifting the Bush restrictions on federally funded embryonic stem cell research.
Signing laws to expand children's health insurance (financed by a 61-cent per pack increase in the federal cigarette tax the adviser did not tout).

Signing a law meant to improve the ability of women who allege pay discrimination to sue their employer.

Diminishing the role of lobbyists in the White House

"Forge a meaningful statement from the United Nations" criticizing North Korea's launch of a ballistic missile.

Lifting travel and remittance restrictions for Cuban Americans who seek to travel more frequently to the island and send more US currency to their immediate family.

Engaging world leaders in Europe, Turkey, Latin American and the Caribbean with "strength and humility."

all in just 90 days

FireBreathingLiberal: all in just 90 days

You're talking to someone who is proud of everything Bush did... wouldn't your time be better spent teaching your dog to mow the lawn ?

Mordant: You're talking to someone who is proud of everything Bush did... wouldn't your time be better spent teaching your dog to mow the lawn ?

Even if all FireBreathingLiberal did was bash his head against a brick wall until his brains fell out, his time would have still been better spent.

Mordant: wouldn't your time be better spent teaching your dog to mow the lawn ?

Did it. In the first 90 days.

mkfreeberg: So far, all I've seen anyone do is bash Republicans and spend taxpayer money.

I wish lightning would strike down stupid people the moment something stupid comes out of their mouths. And it automatically also strikes their kids, too.

In the interest of having any kind of debate here at Fark (which is in danger of becoming almost completely one-sided and thus boring), if I can find anything a poster like mkfreeberg (who at least engages us in conversation) says that I can agree with, (such as Perez Hilton is a mean dimwit), I will happily agree with that part of his post to encourage his participation.

Sgygus: which is in danger of becoming almost completely one-sided and thus boring

I hate this whole "We have to give both sides of the story in order to be fair" bullshiat. For example, that "both sides" bullshiat is responsible for the media lending undue credence to Intelligent Design as a valid counterpoint to the theory of evolution, when any rational non-moron.

Just because one side happens to be full of gibbering retards doesn't mean you still have to give them airtime in the interest of fairness. Sometimes it's a good thing to marginalize the particularly stupid members of a social group; much like quarantining the fatally infectious, you're preventing the rest of the soft-headed human cattle from being infected with babbling retardation.

James F. Campbell: when any rational non-moron can see that it's not the case.

Fixed that for myself.

Sgygus

How often do you listen, seriously, to flat earthers or Scientologists?

2wolves: Sgygus

How often do you listen, seriously, to flat earthers or Scientologists?

I think his point is that if a flat earther or Scientologist says that grass is green or water is wet you may as well be charitable and engage them in discussion about it. It's all you're going to get from them and a few moments of peace would be nice.

mkfreeberg: all I've seen anyone do is bash Republicans

So far, all I've seen goes something like this.

Republicans:*something stupid or something selfish*
everyone else: shut the hell up.
Republicans:*something else stupid and selfish*
everyone else: seriously, shut the hell up.
Republicans:*something over the top stupid*
everyone else: No. Really. shut the hell up.

When they actually have something of worth to contribute, it's going to be ignored because of all the crap they've been spewing because they're butthurt over the election.

Maher forgot "old" in that description.

Mordant:

I think his point is that if a flat earther or Scientologist says that grass is green or water is wet you may as well be charitable and engage them in discussion about it. It's all you're going to get from them and a few moments of peace would be nice.

Understood the first time, but the signal to noise ratio is unacceptable.

James F. Campbell: Just because one side happens to be full of gibbering retards doesn't mean you still have to give them airtime in the interest of fairness. Sometimes it's a good thing to marginalize the particularly stupid members of a social group; much like quarantining the fatally infectious, you're preventing the rest of the soft-headed human cattle from being infected with babbling retardation.

For Fark's sake, I'm going to have to disagree with this. Anyone can post anything (that gets past the moderators) here, and that's a good thing. The soft-headed human cattle don't spend a lot of time at this web-site, and if the the rest of us human goats (?) can't make compelling counter-arguments for our side, we lose. Fair and square.

/thanks Mordant (for many things)

2wolves: Sgygus, how often do you listen, seriously, to flat earthers or Scientologists?

Not that it easy to do in a Fark thread, where like most everyone I respond first with snark, but sometimes I make the effort to listen to the why of someone posting rather than the what. And then I go with with the snark.

I think it's the Republicans' constant bashing of the "MSM" that's done them in. Rather than actually discuss ideas in forums where they can be questioned and challenged, they've retreated further and further into echo chambers. A lot of hardcore Republicans only get information from sources specifically designed to be favorable to right-wingers: Fox News, talk radio like Rush or Hannity, blogs like WorldNetDaily, etc. etc.

Even if I were, for the sake of argument, to grant that a news source like the New York Times or the Washington Post is biased towards Obama, they're still going to run things critical of him. The NRO, on the other hand, would find a way to blast Obama if he single-handedly invented a cure for cancer. It's this reliance on completely unbalanced, screeching rhetoric that's made the Republican Party unable to craft any coherent counter-agenda to Obama's programs.

subby: Like Trekkies, but paranoid

That's totally unfair. Unlike Trekkies, we don't care that the Empire would totally smash the Federation into a mushy pulp.

mkfreeberg: I'm so proud and happy to be in the minority, if being in the majority means I'm like Perez Hilton and Bill Maher.

Of course, being in the minority in this instance means you are like Glen Beck, Ann Coulter and Yakov Smirnoff.

jake_lex: The NRO, on the other hand, would find a way to blast Obama if he single-handedly invented a cure for cancer.

Here's your talking point: "Obama single-handedly destroyed the jobs of millions of American health-care workers."

mkfreeberg: I know the Miss California/Perez Hilton exchange has left you feeling exposed, like suddenly Mister Average Guy can see you're a bunch of mean dimwits.

Wow.

Just when you think you've read the dumbest social critique of all time, along comes mkfreeberg to surprise you.

I wonder who is Mister Average Guy anyway?

Have you met him?

Confabulat: I wonder who is Mister Average Guy anyway?

Have you met him?

FireBreathingLiberal: all in just 90 days

Shh! Obama is a muslim dontcha know!

Alacritous: So far, all I've seen goes something like this.

Pretty accurate. What I love is how for eight farking years it was "Your guy lost, get over it!" but now that it's the other way around they can't stand it. I hope Obama gets in again just to really piss off the bottom 27% who thought Bush was doing a good job.

If I might be so bold, I think I can field this one for mkfreeberg

FireBreathingLiberal: How about:

Passing the "largest" economic stimulus bill in American history.

SOCIALIST!!!!1

FireBreathingLiberal: Ordering the closing of Guantanamo Bay military detention facility and abolishing "enhanced interrogation techniques."

Setting a fixed timetable for withdrawing U.S. combat forces from Iraq.
Ordering 21,000 additional troops to Afghanistan and enlisting, with modest new assistance, European allies in a new multi-layered strategy there and in Pakistan.

APPEASER!!!!!11

FireBreathingLiberal: "Returning science to its rightful place" by lifting the Bush restrictions on federally funded embryonic stem cell research.

ATHEIST!!!!1

FireBreathingLiberal: Signing laws to expand children's health insurance (financed by a 61-cent per pack increase in the federal cigarette tax the adviser did not tout).

Signing a law meant to improve the ability of women who allege pay discrimination to sue their employer

SOCIALIST!!!!!!11

FireBreathingLiberal: Diminishing the role of lobbyists in the White House

AYERS!!!!1

FireBreathingLiberal: "Forge a meaningful statement from the United Nations" criticizing North Korea's launch of a ballistic missile.

Lifting travel and remittance restrictions for Cuban Americans who seek to travel more frequently to the island and send more US currency to their immediate family.

Engaging world leaders in Europe, Turkey, Latin American and the Caribbean with "strength and humility."

APPEASER!!!!1

FireBreathingLiberal: all in just 90 days

TELEPROMPTER!!!!!1

I hope that helped.

The Republicans are just the political arm of government that's honest about being more concerned with receiving corporate favors than the taxpayers they serve. And they do it with that extra twist of cruelness that lets the entire nation know we're nuthin' compared to their dreams of avarice.

MuadDib: That's totally unfair. Unlike Trekkies, we don't care that the Empire would totally smash the Federation into a mushy pulp.

Yeah but the Minbari fleet on its own could thrash anything the Empire had to offer.

Add the Vorlons and the Federation and the Empire could join forces and they'd still barely even merit notice.

_/Geek

mkfreeberg I know the Miss California/Perez Hilton exchange has left you feeling exposed, like suddenly Mister Average Guy can see you're a bunch of mean dimwits.


Just wait until all the scandalized couch monsters who watched the Miss USA pageant take their fury to the streets, teabagging each other robustly. Truly, conservatives are ascendant.

MuadDib 2009-04-25 11:25:16 AM
GurneyHalleck 2009-04-25 12:13:11 PM


suddenly, it occurs to me that its a little presumptuous for farkers to make fun of Trekkies.

Because that's when Republicans became what they fear most: a minority.

Zing!

unlikely: MuadDib: That's totally unfair. Unlike Trekkies, we don't care that the Empire would totally smash the Federation into a mushy pulp.

Yeah but the Minbari fleet on its own could thrash anything the Empire had to offer.

Add the Vorlons and the Federation and the Empire could join forces and they'd still barely even merit notice.

/Geek

Well, yeah. That goes without saying.

mkfreeberg: But it wasn't tax day that made them crazy; it was election day. Because that's when Republicans became what they fear most: a minority.

I'm so proud and happy to be in the minority, if being in the majority means I'm like Perez Hilton and Bill Maher.

Live long and prosper.

Unlike Rush Limbaugh, these two entertainers do not set the agenda for their party.

They do not comprise the primary source of ideas for the Democrats the way that Rush does for the GOP.

And no Democrat is planning to apologize to either of them one day after possibly saying something sufficiently independent of them to possibly offend them.

Summary of by-the-numbers discussion so far:

Obama-god better than Limbaugh-god.
Limbaugh-worship sin.
Obama-worship good.

Next up: why you can't have an opinion about fire unless you're a fireman.

DarthBrooks: Summary of by-the-numbers discussion so far:

Obama-god better than Limbaugh-god.
Limbaugh-worship sin.
Obama-worship good.

Next up: why you can't have an opinion about fire unless you're a fireman.

So, you're trying to say that Obama is to the Dems what Rush is to the GOP? I would agree with that.

The Dems hold in high political esteem a brilliant well-educated fit man, with a great family, who managed to come out of nowhere to defeat a well-known war hero for the Presidency of the United States.

The GOP holds in high esteem a drug-addicted, fat dropout radio entertainer, with no family, but lots of rhetoric about family values, who has never won election to anything in his life.

You certainly can have an opinion about fire without being a fireman, but if I want an expert opinion about fire, I will in fact pay far more attention to the fireman than to the local DJ.

DarthBrooks: Summary of by-the-numbers discussion so far:

You didn't even bother to read the thread before you posted this, did you?

When Jim Webb runs for office as a Democrat and wins in Virginia, you can pretty much ignore the Republican party. Pack it up, boys. Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.

bronyaur1: So, you're trying to say that Obama is to the Dems what Rush is to the GOP? I would agree with that.

The Dems hold in high political esteem a brilliant well-educated fit man, with a great family, who managed to come out of nowhere to defeat a well-known war hero for the Presidency of the United States.

The GOP holds in high esteem a drug-addicted, fat dropout radio entertainer, with no family, but lots of rhetoric about family values, who has never won election to anything in his life.

The Democrats are treating Limbaugh as the chief opposition to their agenda, so indeed they've raised a radio personality as someone worthy to debate. Limbaugh's a guy on the radio - and they've reacted to him as this ridiculous Boogeyman of the Right. It's as stupid a move as when Dan Quayle was going on about frickin' Murphy Brown as the scourge of single parenthood.

The perpetual campaign cycle will continue. If the GOP is smart, they'll hold off on naming their candidate in 2012 and let the Democratic Party rail against media pundits for as long as possible.

You certainly can have an opinion about fire without being a fireman, but if I want an expert opinion about fire, I will in fact pay far more attention to the fireman than to the local DJ.

So I can ignore your commentary about the political process until such time as you're elected President?

Would this be a point to note that both the GOP and Trekkies have conventions seemingly dominated by the religious minority?

DarthBrooks: If the GOP is smart, they'll hold off on skip naming their candidate in 2012

Hmm....

The new GOP logo:



/too obscure? maybe the file name will help

DarthBrooks: bronyaur1: So, you're trying to say that Obama is to the Dems what Rush is to the GOP? I would agree with that.

The Dems hold in high political esteem a brilliant well-educated fit man, with a great family, who managed to come out of nowhere to defeat a well-known war hero for the Presidency of the United States.

The GOP holds in high esteem a drug-addicted, fat dropout radio entertainer, with no family, but lots of rhetoric about family values, who has never won election to anything in his life.

The Democrats are treating Limbaugh as the chief opposition to their agenda, so indeed they've raised a radio personality as someone worthy to debate. Limbaugh's a guy on the radio - and they've reacted to him as this ridiculous Boogeyman of the Right. It's as stupid a move as when Dan Quayle was going on about frickin' Murphy Brown as the scourge of single parenthood.

The perpetual campaign cycle will continue. If the GOP is smart, they'll hold off on naming their candidate in 2012 and let the Democratic Party rail against media pundits for as long as possible.

You certainly can have an opinion about fire without being a fireman, but if I want an expert opinion about fire, I will in fact pay far more attention to the fireman than to the local DJ.

So I can ignore your commentary about the political process until such time as you're elected President?

I fail to see how the Dems created Limbaugh's power in the Republican party... even though they LOVE that situation.

Seriously, how come these guys cannot see that their party is rapidly becoming (has become) a minority, regional party. If this is the Democrats' fault, they must be pretty smart, huh?

Oh, and feel free to ignore my commentary on the political process, even though I have won an election - AS A REPUBLICAN. And feel free to ignore my commentary on economics, even though I have a PhD in the field.

DarthBrooks: the GOP is smart, they'll hold off on naming their candidate in 2012

HAHAHAAH
the GOP doesnt "name" their candidate, they nominate one
the people who wish to be nominated ANNOUNCE that they are candidates

do you think for 1 second that those people are going to WAIT for anything??
they desire to be the front-runner is much much to large a draw

we already have a list of 5-10 possibles for 2012
sheeeshhhhhhh

/will be interesting to see who they actually pick
/damn we got a long time to wait for the next tard-fest

bronyaur1: And feel free to ignore my commentary on economics

alas, the GOP hasnt been about economics since saint reagan and his "deficit spending is good" policy

/strangely enough, the GOP convienently forgets that reagan RAISED TAXES more than any other president. why is that?