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gallup 2009

I 'd expect that approximately 26% of the population thought everything was fantastic and couldn't be better until some time around the end of January and then suddenly went to hell in every possible way so fast that even Baby Jesus couldn't wipe away the tears fast enough.

That might have some dampening affect on the numbers.

Personally I don't think anything will ever be ok in America until Obama makes good on his campaign promise to lock up all "conservatives" in concentration camps.

The American Wanker makes a big point about the disproportion political affiliation of those polled.

There may be another reason why there are fewer people identifying themselves as Republican, other than a conspiracy to slant a poll you know.

Mordant: Personally I don't think anything will ever be ok in America until Obama makes good on his campaign promise to lock up all "conservatives" in concentration camps.

That's easy, all the Liberals have to do is build walls around their cities. Much easier and more cost effective that way.

Subby should check the new Fox Polls ^{(^)}

Yeah, about that

Sorry that reality has a Liberal bias now more than ever Submittard.

Protip: Humans can change their political affiliation when what they believe is not represented by one of the two major parties.

Hobodeluxe: Subby should check the new Fox Polls (^)

I love how more Dems than Reps approve of the Republicans in congress.

That says a lot.

Hmmm, now that I think about it, do you know who else had a really high approval rating early on in his presidency? How did that turn out over the long term?



I wanna see what his approval rating is in two years. Too bad I have to wait two years to see it.

palladiate: I love how more Dems than Reps approve of the Republicans in congress.

It's like watching cock-fighting. How do you NOT enjoy it?

/They're EATING each other, and it's beautiful.

Crosshair: Hmmm, now that I think about it, do you know who else had a really high approval rating early on in his presidency? How did that turn out over the long term?

High 50s? That's not really high.

Insiders know that Rasmussen is the most accurate poll. Rasmussen has Obama's approval rating hovering between 54 and 55%, trending downward.

SkinnyHead: Insiders know that Rasmussen is the most accurate poll. Rasmussen has Obama's approval rating hovering between 54 and 55%, trending downward.

Condescending much?

SkinnyHead: Insiders know...

I'm not an insider.

I'm the guy in the Mickey shirt.

SkinnyHead: Insiders know that Rasmussen is the most accurate poll. Rasmussen has Obama's approval rating hovering between 54 and 55%, trending downward.

"Insiders"??

Who are these insiders?

Crosshair: Hmmm, now that I think about it, do you know who else had a really high approval rating early on in his presidency?

Not Bush. He only got one after we got attacked.

SkinnyHead: Insiders know that Rasmussen is the most accurate poll.

Oooh, mysterious insiders to back your opinion up. I bet that either you also can't cite your mysterious insiders, or your mysterious insiders are the GOP leadership. Rasmussen has been an outlier for months. They are basing their numbers on the party identification numbers of 2004, which is a big difference from party identification numbers of today. It is a bad model, not the truth from mysterious insiders.

FireBreathingLiberal: oops

people-press.org

Month of poll please.

TFA: They don't seem to understand that one, poll collections are weighted so the groups are balanced against current demographics, meaning that slight differences in numbers are balanced against reality, and two that Republican identification is in the tank. They would have made a more valid point talking about how only 3/4 of the President's party think he is on the right track, rather than trying to pretend there is bias in the numbers that is weighted out.

Blow it out your ass American Thinker. No one likes Republicans anymore.



Besides, I'm willing to wager that the poll sample was a lot like Fark where 18% of the people claim no party affiliation but voted for Bush twice and then McCain Palin.

Father Jack Hacket: The American Wanker makes a big point about the disproportion political affiliation of those polled.

There may be another reason why there are fewer people identifying themselves as Republican, other than a conspiracy to slant a poll you know.

This...

FireBreathingLiberal: oops

That chart looks shooped... I can tell from the digits and also I've seen quite a lot of altered polls in my time.

GAT_00: Not Bush. He only got one after we got attacked.

Yes, his approval rating shot up after a big crisis and everyone got into the "patriotic, we must stick together, the government will save us" mindset. Once that wore off, people realized that the politicians used the fear and goodwill to pass a bunch of shiatty legislation.

Obama has the advantage of that crisis happening before he became elected and Bush doing all the wrong things. Obama's doing the same stuff Bush did, but worse, thankfully everyone got into the "patriotic, we must stick together, the government will save us" mindset so they will give Obama a pass on the same stuff they gave Bush crap for. Once that wears off, people will realize that the politicians used that fear and goodwill to pass a bunch of shiatty legislation.

Same sh*t, different day.

It will be interesting to see what his approval rating is in two years.

Looks to me like if about only about 1/3 of the "None Claimed" party category answered "Right track", it would add up to the 48%. Is that the problem?

Or is he noticing that it's getting harder and harder to find people willing to admit they are Republicans, even in an anonymous phone poll (though those who remain are the bitter-enders)?
That Republican party identification has been plummeting for five years and is approaching post-Watergate lows?
That independents lean Democrat over Republican by a 2 to 1 margin?
That in the last election, career Republican candidates were desperately running and hiding from the Republican brand?
That just the name "Republican" is now so pejorative, Republican dead-enders are demanding the Democratic Party rename itself something worse, just to be fair?

Crosshair: so they will give Obama a pass on the same stuff they gave Bush crap for.

I don't seem to remember Obama passing the Patriot Act (yes, he gave it a pass as Senator but not as President) or invading a country and completely farking up the occupation, or wrongly invading a second country. What has Obama done that he is going to be hated for? TARP? Bush started that and gave far bigger payouts than Obama, who also added clauses to it. The car industry? Obama is requiring more from GM than Bush did. The budget? Can be broken down into deficit that Bush caused that wasn't added to his last term, the takeover of Fannie and Freddie that Bush started, additional TARP funds and the stimulus, which was far more bipartisan than anyone gives it credit for, especially considering that the Repub votes were unnecessary and they added pointless tax cuts for the rich on it. Take out those, and Obama's deficit is no bigger than Bush's, and that's including Iraq, Afghanistan, which Bush never did, and money for a national medical plan.

What has Obama done that is ANYWHERE near as bad as what Bush did?

Crosshair: Obama's doing the same stuff Bush did, but worse

Do you really expect anyone to take your opinions seriously?

cousin-merle: Do you really expect anyone to take your opinions seriously?

This is Fark. If I want to be taken seriously I'll go talk with smarter people on other forums I frequent.

Bush ramped up spending and bailed out failed businesses. Obama is ramping up spending and bailing out failed businesses. It's not opinion.

GAT_00: What has Obama done that is ANYWHERE near as bad as what Bush did?

Give him time, so far the bailouts are rather bad by themselves. Yes there is the debt from Bush that is added on. Freddie and Fannie should have gone bankrupt. Obama's current Keynesian direction is going to come and bite us in the *ss.

Yes, Bush did allot of crap in 8 years. Obama hasn't even been in 6 months and already he's taking us WAY in the wrong direction.

Crosshair: Obama's current Keynesian direction is going to come and bite us in the *ss.

Worked pretty well in the Great Depression.

Obama hasn't even been in 6 months and already he's taking us WAY in the wrong direction.

You think so. But when was the last time anything close to a majority agreed that we were going in the right direction?

Crosshair: This is Fark. If I want to be taken seriously I'll go talk with smarter people on other forums I frequent.

Then, seriously, why are you posting serious posts on a serious topic?

/loves the "I'm smarter than you" claim. It's so claimy.

Of course, it never occurred to them that Republicans are jumping ship left and right.

So 36% identified as democrat, and 64% did NOT - and this is liberal bias how?

Crosshair: This is Fark. If I want to be taken seriously I'll go talk with smarter people on other forums I frequent.

Shouldn't you be on your way to the gym?

Bush ramped up spending and bailed out failed businesses. Obama is ramping up spending and bailing out failed businesses. It's not opinion.

Yes, these are the only things that Americans care about. Also, government spending is always bad because it's the government, and the government is always bad. Because it's the government. You are right. Can I be invited to your mensa blogs now?

The American UnThinker? Er, ok.

I never trust polls, yet farkers love to post them like they are from gawd.

GAT_00: But when was the last time anything close to a majority agreed that we were going in the right direction?

Just after 9/11 by my clock.

And that turned out great!

When the polls have got you down.

Just lie.

Funny thing. How many blues songs have been written about the concept of "I've been down so long, it all looks up to me?"

Yeah. That's what the last 8 years have been like. You could have Jimmy Carter or Ronald Reagan in the driver's seat and it'd be an improvement.

Crosshair: This is Fark. If I want to be taken seriously I'll go talk with smarter people on other forums I frequent.

What forums are these?

hillbillypharmacist: I'm the guy in the Mickey shirt.

Isn't that cute! You look just like a baby Martin Sheen!

UP IS DOWN
BLACK IS WHITE
OBAMA ISN'T POPULAR
TELEPROMPTER TEABAG BORK BORK BORK

You're never going to get a polling population that exactly maps over the general population. That's why survey takers weight their results. If you have disproportionate groups then you weigh each group differently to come up with your result. Someone just totaling up the raw numbers won't come to the same result. Which is why this guy sees "similar distortions" in other polls. If he had done even the smallest amount of research he would have seen why.

GAT_00: Oooh, mysterious insiders to back your opinion up. I bet that either you also can't cite your mysterious insiders, or your mysterious insiders are the GOP leadership. Rasmussen has been an outlier for months. They are basing their numbers on the party identification numbers of 2004, which is a big difference from party identification numbers of today. It is a bad model, not the truth from mysterious insiders.

Of course it's all mysterious to you. You're not an insider.

Mentat: UP IS DOWN
BLACK IS WHITE
OBAMA ISN'T POPULAR
TELEPROMPTER TEABAG BORK BORK BORK

I'm not a trekkie, so forgive my ignorance, but IS THAT A GODDAMN KLINGON?

Mentat: UP IS DOWN
BLACK IS WHITE
OBAMA ISN'T POPULAR
TELEPROMPTER TEABAG BORK BORK BORK

You are, number Six!

Real poll: How many Republicans are still wearing their teabags?

/Answer: Both of them.

SkinnyHead: Of course it's all mysterious to you. You're not an insider.

Well I have a GED in insiding and I have no idea what you are talking about.

blueyedevil: Mentat: UP IS DOWN
BLACK IS WHITE
OBAMA ISN'T POPULAR
TELEPROMPTER TEABAG BORK BORK BORK

I'm not a trekkie, so forgive my ignorance, but IS THAT A GODDAMN KLINGON?

No, that's Joe Lieberman, though he does cling on McCain.

hillbillypharmacist: I'm the guy in the Mickey shirt.



You're as tall as Tom Cruise.

If Republicans aren't worried, why do they act so...well...worried?

Mentat: blueyedevil: Mentat: UP IS DOWN
BLACK IS WHITE
OBAMA ISN'T POPULAR
TELEPROMPTER TEABAG BORK BORK BORK

I'm not a trekkie, so forgive my ignorance, but IS THAT A GODDAMN KLINGON?

No, that's Joe Lieberman, though he does cling on McCain.

No, the one in the Saturday Night Fever get-up.

(the black one)

SkinnyHead: Of course it's all mysterious to you. You're not an insider.

Thanks for proving my point.

GAT_00: I bet that either you also can't cite your mysterious insiders

Mentat: UP IS DOWN
BLACK IS WHITE
OBAMA ISN'T POPULAR
TELEPROMPTER TEABAG BORK BORK BORK PORK PORK PORK

FTFY



/he lost his job for a while, but now he makes moose burgers for Palin