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(St. Petersburg Times) Florida Major GOP contributor wants vaccinations for children made optional, so parents can be cheap, lazy, believe everything on the Internets   (tampabay.com) divider line 382
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Elvis_Bogart [TotalFark] 2009-04-22 09:53:16 AM  
When did Jenny McCarthy become a Republican?

 
Diogenes [TotalFark] 2009-04-22 10:14:02 AM  
But Kompothecras, a millionaire chiropractor best known for his "1-800-ASK-GARY" lawyer-medical referral service, is not just any parent.

OMFG those ads are insufferable. Interesting though how Republicans decry trial attorneys and ambulance chasers, and this nitwit has established a class even more detestable than ambulance chasers.

 
Diogenes [TotalFark] 2009-04-22 10:15:50 AM  
Gary Kompothecras....believes early-childhood vaccines containing ethyl mercury are to blame for their condition Republicanism.

Hey, it's just as plausible.

 
Mr. Coffee Nerves [TotalFark] 2009-04-22 10:17:35 AM  
FTFA: Kompothecras knows a thing or two about donations. In the 2008 general election, he donated a total of about $40,000 to individual candidates, including Ambler, Atwater, Bennett, and the Republican Party of Florida. And he gave more than $110,000 to the campaign for passage of Crist's property tax cut plan, Amendment 1.

$150,000. Merck and Wyeth spend more than that on bikini waxes for their lobbyists. This guy doesn't even qualify as a "big fish in a small pond."

 
patrick767 [TotalFark] 2009-04-22 10:27:53 AM  
Dear Gary Kompothecras,
You are killing children. Go fark yourself.

I see they're pulling the usual parent card: "it's the parent's choice! Parents know best for their kids!" No, they don't. Not in this case. Not if they believe the shiat they read on the internet and decide their kids shouldn't be vaccinated. In Kompothecras's case, parents may be believing their chiropractor. He's got a degree and stuff.

Oh, and thimerosal isn't even used in many early childhood vaccines anymore. Not that it's a problem if it was, but that's the stuff these people blame for autism.

 
Diogenes [TotalFark] 2009-04-22 10:38:37 AM  
patrick767: Oh, and thimerosal isn't even used in many early childhood vaccines anymore. Not that it's a problem if it was, but that's the stuff these people blame for autism

I wore contacts from an early age. So before they took thimerosal out of saline solutions and cleaning supplies, I had alot of exposure. Somehow my eyes haven't melted and fallen out.

 
DamnYankees [TotalFark] 2009-04-22 10:54:50 AM  
Elvis_Bogart: When did Jenny McCarthy become a Republican?

Stole my line.

 
50mm [TotalFark] 2009-04-22 11:20:42 AM  
Gary Kompothecras, parent to two autistic children, believes early-childhood vaccines containing ethyl mercury are to blame for their condition.

Science says otherwise, STFU.

 
DistendedPendulusFrenulum 2009-04-22 12:02:11 PM  
Oh, lovely. Now that mercury-free vaccines have been out long enough to produce data showing no difference in autism rates. . .

Well, if nothing else, the Republicans are certainly giving evolution a boost, and when childhood diseases come roaring back, they've got the Liberal Bashing Industry to tell them it's Clinton's fault. Sweet!

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Snarfangel [TotalFark] 2009-04-22 12:03:06 PM  
Maybe we can vaccinate certain parents against having children.

 
DistendedPendulusFrenulum 2009-04-22 12:06:15 PM  
Snarfangel:

Maybe we can vaccinate certain parents against having children.

It's more likely to work the opposite way. Quiverfull ideologs will whelp out slews of walking vectors, who will thankfully be homeschooled, so as only to transmit polio to other children of evangelical wackaloons. The only real effect for the rest of us will be the highly probable knock-on effect of having our tax money pay for special services for this new class of "differently abled due to preventable illness person."

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mysticcat [TotalFark] 2009-04-22 12:11:59 PM  
Not this shiat again?!

At first it was "Thimerosal causes autism!", but autism rates continued to rise after the removal of thimerosal from vaccines.

Now it's "Too many vaccines too soon!" despite the fact that the immune system fights off log orders more pathogens every single day than are contained in a lifetime of vaccinations.

Multiple well designed trials have found no link between vaccinations and autism. Suggestions to the contrary place children at risk by discouraging potentially life-saving vaccines. Additionally, such assertions deflect attention and resources away from legitimate research into the cause and treatment of autism.

It is very difficult to dissuade someone whose beliefs are based on magical thinking.

Now STFU&DIAF

/board certified immunologist

 
Mr. Coffee Nerves [TotalFark] 2009-04-22 12:15:53 PM  
mysticcat: Not this shiat again?!

At first it was "Thimerosal causes autism!", but autism rates continued to rise after the removal of thimerosal from vaccines.

Now it's "Too many vaccines too soon!" despite the fact that the immune system fights off log orders more pathogens every single day than are contained in a lifetime of vaccinations.

Multiple well designed trials have found no link between vaccinations and autism. Suggestions to the contrary place children at risk by discouraging potentially life-saving vaccines. Additionally, such assertions deflect attention and resources away from legitimate research into the cause and treatment of autism.

It is very difficult to dissuade someone whose beliefs are based on magical thinking.

Now STFU&DIAF

/board certified immunologist


Sadly, I think we all know at least one parent who would respond to this with "All those fancy degrees and 'studies' mean nothing compared to what a mother knows in her heart is best for her child."

 
mysticcat [TotalFark] 2009-04-22 12:23:22 PM  
Mr. Coffee Nerves: Sadly, I think we all know at least one parent who would respond to this with "All those fancy degrees and 'studies' mean nothing compared to what a mother knows in her heart is best for her child."

I know more than one.

I'm fine with personal choice as long as it doesn't endanger my kids.

To wit, there was a case of pertussis at their school recently in an unvaccinated precious snowflake.

IMHO, the American medical community has not been vocal enough in refuting these crackpots. I think they thought everyone would see it for the hogwash it is and the issue would die out.

I think these sorts of things make their proponents feel special, like they're privy to some secret information and that theirs is a righteous cause.

 
House of Tards [TotalFark] 2009-04-22 12:34:03 PM  
mysticcat: Not this shiat again?!

At first it was "Thimerosal causes autism!", but autism rates continued to rise after the removal of thimerosal from vaccines.

Now it's "Too many vaccines too soon!" despite the fact that the immune system fights off log orders more pathogens every single day than are contained in a lifetime of vaccinations.

Multiple well designed trials have found no link between vaccinations and autism. Suggestions to the contrary place children at risk by discouraging potentially life-saving vaccines. Additionally, such assertions deflect attention and resources away from legitimate research into the cause and treatment of autism.

It is very difficult to dissuade someone whose beliefs are based on magical thinking.


It's now reached conspiracy theory levels of rationality (if it wasn't always there).

"Don't you understand? Big-Pharma and the doctors want you to be sick. They're not making you healthy by giving you these vaccines, they're crating a consumer for life. My child is the healthiest child ever and it's all due to milk-thistle and kale. Who do you think pays for these 'studies' about the safety of vaccines? Wake up, sheeple!"

I really wouldn't care except for the whole pesky herd immunity thing.

 
Code_Archeologist [TotalFark] 2009-04-22 12:59:11 PM  
A parent that decides not to get their child vaccinated might as well let their child play with a loaded gun. The odds are that the child will not die, but what they fail to consider is the number of people that their lack of immunization may sicken or kill.

Not everybody can get immunized because of a compromised immune system (caused by age or disease), but if everybody who can be immunized is then the risk of that person being exposed to measles or mumps is mitigated significantly.

But deciding that your precious and unique snowflake doesn't need to be immunized because of some imaginary risk of mental retardation is the height of ignorance and selfishness.

 
DamnYankees [TotalFark] 2009-04-22 01:12:06 PM  
scienceblogs.com

Obvious.

 
DistendedPendulusFrenulum 2009-04-22 01:22:21 PM  
mysticcat:


To wit, there was a case of pertussis at their school recently in an unvaccinated precious snowflake.


Minnesota is lousy with this kind of asscrackery

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satchel13 2009-04-22 01:41:02 PM  
What's the big deal? If you want to vaccinate your kid, do it. If you don't want to, fine, don't. I think it's high time that we have some serious outbreaks of diptheria, pertussis, polio, measles, mumps, rubella, meningitis, etc. It will thin the herd of future Darwin Award candidates.

 
Calmamity [TotalFark] 2009-04-22 01:41:10 PM  
A disproportionate number of Republicans have autistic kids.

Kool-Aid causes autism.

 
DamnYankees [TotalFark] 2009-04-22 01:42:05 PM  
satchel13: What's the big deal? If you want to vaccinate your kid, do it. If you don't want to, fine, don't. I think it's high time that we have some serious outbreaks of diptheria, pertussis, polio, measles, mumps, rubella, meningitis, etc. It will thin the herd of future Darwin Award candidates.

You can't just let people not vaccinate their kids. Look up "herd immunity". You need a certain amount of vaccination in order to reach a critical mass.

 
gustakooka [TotalFark] 2009-04-22 01:44:38 PM  
DamnYankees: satchel13: What's the big deal? If you want to vaccinate your kid, do it. If you don't want to, fine, don't. I think it's high time that we have some serious outbreaks of diptheria, pertussis, polio, measles, mumps, rubella, meningitis, etc. It will thin the herd of future Darwin Award candidates.

You can't just let people not vaccinate their kids. Look up "herd immunity". You need a certain amount of vaccination in order to reach a critical mass.


Yep. These idiots can ruin 50 years of progress towards the destruction of a pathogen for everyone.

 
Axiomatic 2009-04-22 01:51:00 PM  
gustakooka: Yep. These idiots can ruin 50 years of progress towards the destruction of a pathogen for everyone.

THIS!!!!^^^

I think some of these idiots are forgetting that its not just about the one parent who doesn't want their kid vaccinated. This is how epidemics begin.

 
Cinaed 2009-04-22 02:06:53 PM  
Reports have show no causal relationship, nor any statistically relevant correlation between vaccines and autism. The most prominent rationale for the rise in diagnosis of autism is simply a better understanding of the condition and better diagnostic tools, procedures, and protocols.

Although, I don't think anyone can be forced to give their child a vaccination, however those children won't be able to attend any pre-school, school, day care, sports club, etc. as a result. One of those situations where the batshiat crazy hamstring their children for beliefs that haven't been substantiated.

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2009-04-22 02:07:59 PM  
I'm bringing my child to a republican-approved faith healer when vaccination time comes around.

 
depmode98 2009-04-22 02:11:28 PM  
as I understand it, these vaccines don't even contain mercury anymore in thimerosal, and all the studies that reported that vaccines were the cause of autism were completely fraudulent was publicly shamed.

 
stuhayes2010 [TotalFark] 2009-04-22 02:12:08 PM  
I for one, welcome our Measles and Rubella overlords. Ah, to live likes its 1890 again.

 
LasersHurt 2009-04-22 02:12:31 PM  
I got all of my vaccines between 86 and 88. In that time, most of them were preserved with a substance that broke down into Mercury. I now have a mild case of Chronic Motor Tick Disorder.

I'd still rather have it than polio or TB or some shiat. Besides, if all of our vaccines are still "tainted" I'll be a Monkey's Uncle.

 
GoodyearPimp 2009-04-22 02:13:26 PM  
Is it considered negligence to allow someone to make a decision for their child who ultimately dies from a preventable disease? If not, then I'm all for letting stupid people risk their child's life because a lawyer or TV star told them their kid will "get autism" from vaccines. The kid was probably going to grow up to be stupid anyway.

 
Ender's [TotalFark] 2009-04-22 02:13:27 PM  
Came in here to see Jenny McCarthy's sweater tipples and I am leaving horribly dissappointed.

/it was a vaccident.

 
vernonFL [TotalFark] 2009-04-22 02:14:18 PM  
depmode98: as I understand it, these vaccines don't even contain mercury anymore in thimerosal, and all the studies that reported that vaccines were the cause of autism were completely fraudulent was publicly shamed.

Cinaed: Reports have show no causal relationship, nor any statistically relevant correlation between vaccines and autism

You probably believe in evolution, too.

 
Aidan [TotalFark] 2009-04-22 02:16:39 PM  
DamnYankees: satchel13: What's the big deal? If you want to vaccinate your kid, do it. If you don't want to, fine, don't. I think it's high time that we have some serious outbreaks of diptheria, pertussis, polio, measles, mumps, rubella, meningitis, etc. It will thin the herd of future Darwin Award candidates.

You can't just let people not vaccinate their kids. Look up "herd immunity". You need a certain amount of vaccination in order to reach a critical mass.


This.

/Gets so mad when listening to her neighbors blather on about how vaccines are so bad for kids

 
Cinaed 2009-04-22 02:17:04 PM  
vernonFL: depmode98: as I understand it, these vaccines don't even contain mercury anymore in thimerosal, and all the studies that reported that vaccines were the cause of autism were completely fraudulent was publicly shamed.

Cinaed: Reports have show no causal relationship, nor any statistically relevant correlation between vaccines and autism

You probably believe in evolution, too.


Yep, sure do.
I also believe in the isotope based methods used to date things like fossils and other items found buried in the dirt and rock. According to those, the earth is REALLY old, way older than just 6,000 years.
Crazy stuff, I know.

 
netcentric 2009-04-22 02:17:14 PM  
Pro-choice.....? that's good right?

 
moistD 2009-04-22 02:17:26 PM  
DamnYankees: Obvious.

i enjoyed that

 
DarnoKonrad 2009-04-22 02:18:36 PM  
Because Polio rocks. Communicable diseases FTW!

 
otherginger 2009-04-22 02:19:38 PM  
Great. Between this kind of thinking and the national obsession with germ-zapping hand lotions and pretreated wipes (the net result of the use of such things being to create stronger, happier germs), our grandchildren can look forward to a lovely rebirth of scarlet fever, measles, polio.....

 
patrick767 [TotalFark] 2009-04-22 02:20:21 PM  
House of Tards
"Don't you understand? Big-Pharma and the doctors want you to be sick. They're not making you healthy by giving you these vaccines, they're crating a consumer for life. My child is the healthiest child ever and it's all due to milk-thistle and kale. Who do you think pays for these 'studies' about the safety of vaccines? Wake up, sheeple!"


It's been there for years. Gigantic douche and infomercial con artist Kevin Trudeau wrote Natural cures they don't want you to know about, a book full of nothing but lies and completely unsupported treatments where he claims exactly what you're saying. It was on the NYT bestseller list for many weeks. The equally horrible and irresponsible sequel was up there for awhile too.

Mr. Coffee Nerves
Sadly, I think we all know at least one parent who would respond to this with "All those fancy degrees and 'studies' mean nothing compared to what a mother knows in her heart is best for her child."


The liberal intellectual elite want to control us!

What other group has shown a strong anti-intellectual stance, instead favoring what they call "common sense"? hmm... I'm thinking of an elephant...

 
LordJiro 2009-04-22 02:20:32 PM  
vernonFL: depmode98: as I understand it, these vaccines don't even contain mercury anymore in thimerosal, and all the studies that reported that vaccines were the cause of autism were completely fraudulent was publicly shamed.

Cinaed: Reports have show no causal relationship, nor any statistically relevant correlation between vaccines and autism

You probably believe in evolution, too.


Speaking of which, it'd be interesting to see how many Creationists are anti-vaccination, since both groups ignore/distrust scientists.

 
jake3988 2009-04-22 02:20:40 PM  
patrick767 2009-04-22 10:27:53 AM Dear Gary Kompothecras, You are killing children. Go fark yourself.
=============================

Telling him to F|_|CK himself is so much an understatement.

I want to beat him with a tireiron until near-death, wait until he recovers, and then beat him again.

YOU. ARE. KILLING. YOUR. CHILDREN.

We have eliminated Polio, smallpox, and nearly eliminated mumps, measles, and rubella due to continued vaccination. Your precious little jackass children are autistic because you wait too F|_|CKING long to have kids (age 18: 1 in 10000, age 50: 1 in 4).

/Limbaugh and Glenn Beck combined make me 10x less pissed off than jackasses who refuse to vaccinate their kids. And that's saying something.

 
DeadZone 2009-04-22 02:20:41 PM  
Elvis_Bogart: When did Jenny McCarthy become a Republican?

As soon as she went full retard.

 
Hideously Gigantic Smurf 2009-04-22 02:21:01 PM  
www.adorablekidsdressup.com
"I'm back, biatches!"

/Look on Wikipedia for the connection.

 
Funk Brothers 2009-04-22 02:21:04 PM  
stuhayes2010: I for one, welcome our Measles and Rubella overlords. Ah, to live likes its 1890 again.

Hail Britannia!

 
MindStalker 2009-04-22 02:21:37 PM  
Diogenes: patrick767: Oh, and thimerosal isn't even used in many early childhood vaccines anymore. Not that it's a problem if it was, but that's the stuff these people blame for autism

I wore contacts from an early age. So before they took thimerosal out of saline solutions and cleaning supplies, I had alot of exposure. Somehow my eyes haven't melted and fallen out.


But you are on fark, that should say something..

 
Jim_Callahan 2009-04-22 02:21:46 PM  
Yeah... let's not. Not even kids from Florida deserve to live in a state where measles and chicken pox can still kill you.

 
DirkValentine 2009-04-22 02:22:18 PM  
It's kinda of funny that BOTH his kids have autism.

This makes me think that maybe, just MAYBE, it's from him or his wife?

Cockpunch needed.

 
Apik0r0s 2009-04-22 02:22:38 PM  
The GOP and Science, a stormy romance for sure.

 
TheAgeOfEgos 2009-04-22 02:22:45 PM  
Hideously Gigantic Smurf: "I'm back, biatches!"

/Look on Wikipedia for the connection.


Well, I learned something today. Thanks for that.

 
lawboy87 2009-04-22 02:22:47 PM  
Yep, it's got to be the vaccines, it couldn't possibly be because there is a stronger likelihood of damage to the DNA of a person/parent who chooses to wait later in life and as a result the odds of their offspring developing autism are increased....


"Men and women who wait to have babies later in life may increase their children's risk for autism, according to a Kaiser Permanente study featured in the April issue of Archives of Pediatrics & Adolescent Medicine, one of the JAMA/Archives journals...

Study results show that a mother's and father's risk of delivering a child with autism steadily increases as they get older. Women ages 40 and older showed a 30 percent increase in risk for having a child with autism (1 in 123), when compared to moms between the ages of 25 and 29 (1 in 156). Men ages 40 and older had up to a 50 percent increased risk of having a child with autism (1 in 116), when compared to their 25- to 29-year-old peers (1 in 176)."

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/66895.php

 
bigfatdave 2009-04-22 02:24:40 PM  
The GOP getting behind an effort to keep the public ignorant, scared, and listening to the loudest voice in the room rather than the most rational? Say it isn't so!

 
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