Hero?

"I'm tired of paying for people who don't have,"...

ODOT spokesman Scott Varner said the money was specifically for transit improvements in rural areas to improve transportation for disabled people, seniors and others needing access to health care and educational opportunities.

Who needs useless cripples anyway?

/Wow... what an effing prick.

can I have his filthy money instead?

Warren county is mostly empty anyway, who gives a shiat what those idiots do.

what a selfish, stupid farking grandstanding idiot.

You know who else is from Ohio?

FTA:

ODOT spokesman Scott Varner said the money was specifically for transit improvements in rural areas to improve transportation for disabled people, seniors and others needing access to health care and educational opportunities.

what a farking subhuman cock.

Harvey Birdman: Warren county is mostly empty anyway, who gives a shiat what those idiots do.

Ummm I do - because I live here.

It's idiotic for them to turn down transportation funding for the disabled.

/The butthurt is strong in this county since the election.
//Jean Schmidt territory. Need I say more?

Big Red Al:
//Jean Schmidt territory. Need I say more?

mean jean? figures.

i swear, shiat like this and the grandstanding pulled by mark sanford, bobby jindal and rick perry is stomach-turning, bordering on obscene. these rich assholes and their rich friends are directly hurting the poor and disabled to make political points. they are filth.

FTFA:

ODOT spokesman Scott Varner said the money was specifically for transit improvements in rural areas to improve transportation for disabled people, seniors and others needing access to health care and educational opportunities.

"I'm tired of paying for people who don't have," Kilburn said.

He's got a point. I mean, why should we pay for those who were too lazy to get a job? Hell, these people are too lazy to walk around on their own, and now they want a government handout? Sickening. When will these godless secularists learn that Jesus would have wanted to see the elderly and disabled get into heaven as soon as possible by dying in the gutter? There the disabled won't have to worry about things like demons infecting their spinal cord (good luck curing that with stem cells, Boris), and the elderly can look down upon those that they love and protect them from sodomy and Jews.

"I'll let Warren County go broke before taking any of Obama's filthy money"

I have heard similar complaints from store owners that used to hang Whites Only signs in their windows.

cousin-merle: "I'm tired of paying for people who don't have," Kilburn said.

He's got a point...

I score that an 8 of a possible 10, quality whargarbl sir.

OlafTheBent: ODOT spokesman Scott Varner said the money was specifically for transit improvements in rural areas to improve transportation for disabled people, seniors and others needing access to health care and educational opportunities.

1st: How is this going to "stimulate" the economy? Seriously, this just sounds like politicians spending money.

2nd: What other sorts of strings are attached to this money. It's likely that accepting these funds would have required the state/county to continue funding these services once the money ran out.

3rd: How much of a need is there to improve these services? For all we know these services are already decently run and there is little need to improve them.

Code_Archeologist: I score that an 8 of a possible 10, quality whargarbl sir.

The only thing that would have made it better was more foam and spittle.

FlashHarry: what a selfish, stupid farking grandstanding idiot.

And THIS.

Have fun running for re-election in a bankrupt county, then.

ooh, green!

Crosshair: 1st: How is this going to "stimulate" the economy? Seriously, this just sounds like politicians spending money.

The fat cats are just trying to further enrich their CEO buddies at the car companies. How is building vehicles stimulus deficit spending? It's so obvious that this is a sham. GM, Chrysler and Ford have been making money hand over fist at the expense of the American taxpayer; car sales are at all time highs; and here we are tossing another bailout at the automakers. The mayor has it exactly right. This is why he is requesting highway funds instead of more vans. There are already too many vehicles clogging up the roads in Warren County from the recent boon in the economy, specifically with regards to autos. The disabled can use the sidewalk. My tax money already bought that for them. Ingrates.

You know, I wonder how many people in his county actually agree with his "principles", and how many just want him to shut up so they can get their roads re-paved, schools built, and public transportation improved.
This guy is a symbol of what's wrong with the republican party. They're too busy putting party first to bother helping their constituents.

"I'll let Warren County go broke before taking any of Obama's filthy money," Commissioner Mike Kilburn said.

GOOD FOR YOU! Just go ahead and raise taxes, we'll see ya in November.

"Just because a man doesn't have feet doesn't mean he shouldn't pull himself up by his bootstraps!!"

Reading Commissioner Kilburn's bio it looks like he runs a funeral home. Maybe he's just trying to drum up business. After all, a cripple trying to cross a busy intersection isn't just funny, he's a potential customer!

If only there were some bit of folk-wisdom, some aphorism that would cover this.

Cut off your something to spite your something something

FuturePastNow: Have fun running for re-election in a bankrupt country, then.

FTFY and obammy

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Reading Commissioner Kilburn's bio it looks like he runs a funeral home. Maybe he's just trying to drum up business. After all, a cripple trying to cross a busy intersection isn't just funny, he's a potential customer!

Methinks he needs to start upping the speed limit and randomly removing stop signs in certain critical, high density areas.

cousin-merle: The fat cats

I've spotted a hippy

Crosshair: OlafTheBent: ODOT spokesman Scott Varner said the money was specifically for transit improvements in rural areas to improve transportation for disabled people, seniors and others needing access to health care and educational opportunities.

1st: How is this going to "stimulate" the economy? Seriously, this just sounds like politicians spending money.

2nd: What other sorts of strings are attached to this money. It's likely that accepting these funds would have required the state/county to continue funding these services once the money ran out.

3rd: How much of a need is there to improve these services? For all we know these services are already decently run and there is little need to improve them.

1)By getting people who would otherwise not get out, or have limited means, to spend their money or conduct business.

2) If that's true, then you guys have much bigger problems and I pity you.

3)See answer 2... pissing away money on stuff you don't need when you're deep in debt is not the sign of a healthy psyche.

Apart from the above, his explanation is that he doesn't want to do anything for those less fortunate... hence the "I'm tired of paying for people who don't have,"... quote. Speculation is one thing, but I believe this statement makes it crystal clear where his motivation is coming from.

Dear Commissioners,

Crosshair: 1st: How is this going to "stimulate" the economy? Seriously, this just sounds like politicians spending money.

Two ways... The first is the cars have to come from somewhere, and the second is it gets people out of the house who otherwise wouldn't be getting out of the house and gives them a way to spend money.

Crosshair: 2nd: What other sorts of strings are attached to this money. It's likely that accepting these funds would have required the state/county to continue funding these services once the money ran out.

That isn't what was argued.

Crosshair: 3rd: How much of a need is there to improve these services? For all we know these services are already decently run and there is little need to improve them.

This wasn't argued either.

If you want to argue your last two points, bring out evidence supporting your positions and then we can argue it.

gustakooka: I've spotted a hippy

Crosshair: 3rd: How much of a need is there to improve these services? For all we know these services are already decently run and there is little need to improve them.

AMERICA IS TEH AWESOME!!!

Ryan2065: If you want to argue your last two points, bring out evidence supporting your positions and then we can argue it.

Please take reading comprehension 101. I was stating that we don't have enough information and was asking if anyone had in information on those two points. Those two questions are reliavant to the first one and we don't know either way.

Ryan2065: Two ways... The first is the cars have to come from somewhere, and the second is it gets people out of the house who otherwise wouldn't be getting out of the house and gives them a way to spend money.

Well if economic recovery is that easy, then why doesn't the government buy everyone a car? Is that the problem with our economy, that we don't have enough cars?

Once again, spending does not an economy make. Production is what makes an economy. We have fooled ourselves into thinking that spending = economic growth.

Crosshair: 2nd: What other sorts of strings are attached to this money. It's likely that accepting these funds would have required the state/county to continue funding these services once the money ran out.

No it's not.

Jindal rejected about $100m on this rationale. However he accepted $3.7bn. So about 3% of stimulus money for LA.

So from that you assume it's "likely" that this is the case here, despite the rationale being clearly laid out as "not taking Obama's filthy money".

Crosshair: Once again, spending does not an economy make. Production is what makes an economy. We have fooled ourselves into thinking that spending = economic growth.

Do you think we are suffering from a lack of inventory or something?

Crosshair: Please take reading comprehension 101.

Will do. Can you suggest a good university to take this at?

Crosshair: I was stating that we don't have enough information and was asking if anyone had in information on those two points. Those two questions are reliavant to the first one and we don't know either way.

Right, because the article we read didn't give any of the reasons they are rejecting the money. Except it did...

1. Commissioners rejected $373,000 in stimulus money to buy three new transit buses and upgrade their fleet, citing their opposition of deficit spending for buses and vans.

2. "I'll let Warren County go broke before taking any of Obama's filthy money," Commissioner Mike Kilburn said.

3. "I'm tired of paying for people who don't have," Kilburn said. "As Reagan said, 'Government is not the answer, it's the problem.'"

You can ask questions all you want, but what it boils down to is you want someone else to do your homework.

Crosshair: Well if economic recovery is that easy, then why doesn't the government buy everyone a car? Is that the problem with our economy, that we don't have enough cars?

Really? You really don't see how getting people to stores to spend money will help us get out of the recession?

Crosshair: Once again, spending does not an economy make. Production is what makes an economy. We have fooled ourselves into thinking that spending = economic growth.

Ah, right, because producing without selling is the ticket to getting out of this recession.

I like how this guy brings up Reagan to justify being a gigantic tool.

Ryan2065: Crosshair: Well if economic recovery is that easy, then why doesn't the government buy everyone a car? Is that the problem with our economy, that we don't have enough cars?

Really? You really don't see how getting people to stores to spend money will help us get out of the recession?

Our recession is not due to peoples' inability to physically get to a store. Getting people to stores will not help us get out of the recession.

I can't help but hear him saying that in Stewie Griffin's voice.

"Dirty, dirty money!"

It's too bad US currency doesn't have President Obama's picture on it.

Doesn't matter, it's Ohio.

As long as he rails against gay marriage, abortion, and evolution, he will get reelected.

gustakooka: Getting people to stores will not help us get out of the recession.

What will?

gustakooka: Our recession is not due to peoples' inability to physically get to a store. Getting people to stores will not help us get out of the recession.

Would you say it would help us in the long run if people stopped going to stores?

Ryan2065: gustakooka: Our recession is not due to peoples' inability to physically get to a store. Getting people to stores will not help us get out of the recession.

Would you say it would help us in the long run if people stopped going to stores?

Going Galt is the only way to get out of a recession.

DamnYankees:
Going Galt is the only way to get out of a recession.

How will banging a railroad heiress and going on raids with Scandanavian pirates rebuild the economy? I mean, there's only so many Amtrak Guest Rewards points I can accumulate.

Diogenes: I can't help but hear him saying that in Stewie Griffin's voice.

"Dirty, dirty money!"

He's not real man. He's just a cartoon character.

DamnYankees: Going Galt is the only way to get out of a recession.

There is no God but Ayn Rand and John Galt is her Prophet.

Young said while the conservative board of commissioners is against the $787 billion stimulus package, even they might support using funds for larger infrastructure projects.

"I understand the federal government should be doing some spending in a down economy," said Young.

"But, it should be on big projects like highway improvements. We might not like deficit spending, but at least we could live with it if the funds were being used for those things. To use it for vans? That's crazy."

"your new vans are chump change bullshiat. this is mutherfarkin' warren county ohio. we deserve a bigger payday."

Ryan2065: gustakooka: Our recession is not due to peoples' inability to physically get to a store. Getting people to stores will not help us get out of the recession.

Would you say it would help us in the long run if people stopped going to stores?

Would you say the problems in our economy are due to peoples' inability to physically get to stores?

gustakooka: Would you say the problems in our economy are due to peoples' inability to physically get to stores?

would you say that building vans for the warren county fleet provides and instant injection of money into america's flagging manufacturing sector?

OlafTheBent: Crosshair: OlafTheBent: ODOT spokesman Scott Varner said the money was specifically for transit improvements in rural areas to improve transportation for disabled people, seniors and others needing access to health care and educational opportunities.

1st: How is this going to "stimulate" the economy? Seriously, this just sounds like politicians spending money.

2nd: What other sorts of strings are attached to this money. It's likely that accepting these funds would have required the state/county to continue funding these services once the money ran out.

3rd: How much of a need is there to improve these services? For all we know these services are already decently run and there is little need to improve them.

1)By getting people who would otherwise not get out, or have limited means, to spend their money or conduct business.

And don't forget the buses were also to get people to education centers, as well. Y'know--so they could maybe learn a trade or skill and go find a job? Oh, and have the security of knowing there's a way to get them to said job?

Having little or no public transportation sucks. I'm in the suburbs, 5 miles from NJ Transit, but still either have to drive to the station or take a cab to get there. Ocean County is using some of the stimulus money to put the local bus service back in action.

thomps: gustakooka: Would you say the problems in our economy are due to peoples' inability to physically get to stores?

would you say that building vans for the warren county fleet provides and instant injection of money into america's flagging manufacturing sector?

Yes. That is not in dispute.

gustakooka: Yes. That is not in dispute.


well that is what the money the county rejected was going towards:

Commissioners rejected $373,000 in stimulus money to buy three new transit buses and upgrade their fleet, citing their opposition of deficit spending for buses and vans.


not the ongoing operations of it, not creating a new program for the disabled. just replacing a shiatty fleet that they are already operating. it looks like they also rejected money for construction jobs to retrofit government buildings with more efficient windows.

Crosshair: 1st: How is this going to "stimulate" the economy? Seriously, this just sounds like politicians spending money.

You know, when they spend money, especially on things like new busses and upgrades to their mass transit fleet, they're not just burning money and sending it into the ether. That money is going towards paying for new buses and upgrades to their existing buses, which not only improves the system but puts money into the economy, either through middle-men getting the buses there and maintaining them, or the actual work of building the buses (I'm not sure where they're built, but the auto industry isn't in a great position and any order of large, expensive vehicles is probably going to help somewhat.