No, really, it's okay, keep it. Him. Keep Him.

LasersHurt: No, really, it's okay, keep it. Him. Keep Him.

THIS

Iraq?

I thought she was in Iran.

I might be confused...it's early.

Iraq???

cartersdad: Iraq?

I thought she was in Iran.

I might be confused...it's early.

AndEhBus: Iraq???

You Racist Bastards.

Hey everybody I'm an attention hore. Look at me!!!!

Take Sharpton with him, that asshole is a bigger problem than Jesse. At least Jesse used to be a good person back in the 60's

Everybody's hard up for work aren't they?

Cat Food Sandwiches: Hey everybody I'm an attention hore. Look at me!!!!

Sorry, this thread is about Jesse Jackson, an infinitely more successful attention whore than you.

I agree with you on that, Podna. He used to be someone whose positions were extremely relevant, and he did help publicize and change some important things.

As of late, he's been a loud, partisan hack with Jesus on his shoulder. Maybe we can send New Jesse, keep Old Jesse.

equilibrium: Cat Food Sandwiches: Hey everybody I'm an attention hore. Look at me!!!!

Sorry, this thread is about Jesse Jackson, an infinitely more successful attention whore than you.

Now now, let's be fair; both are absolutely ridiculous.

globalwarmingpraiser: THIS

For a guy who's pretty inane, he manages to really irk the Right.

Jesse Jackson, at points in his life, has given some really good speeches, but other than that, his major contribution to the American culture is having an American icon die in his arms. He's the Paul to MLK's Jesus. He tries, but you can tell he's a peon in the shadow of giants.

But I still fail to understand the level of vitriol hurled in his direction.

DarnoKonrad: globalwarmingpraiser: THIS

For a guy who's pretty inane, he manages to really irk the Right.

Jesse Jackson, at points in his life, has given some really good speeches, but other than that, his major contribution to the American culture is having an American icon die in his arms. He's the Paul to MLK's Jesus. He tries, but you can tell he's a peon in the shadow of giants.

But I still fail to understand the level of vitriol hurled in his direction.

He is a douchebag, who is treated like a great man. Jesse Jackson is a disgrace and has mastered the art of the shakedown.

globalwarmingpraiser: He is a douchebag, who is treated like a great man. Jesse Jackson is a disgrace and has mastered the art of the shakedown.

Yes, he is. But if he manages to get this woman out of prison, I'll take back every bad thing I've said about him.

/Not holding my breath

globalwarmingpraiser: He is a douchebag, who is treated like a great man. Jesse Jackson is a disgrace and has mastered the art of the shakedown.

You give the man more credit than warrants. I find his detractors to be more peculiar than the man.

Kinda like those obsessed with Chavez.

There's a mechanism operating here I don't understand.

Now Al Sharpton is going to have to find a higher profile hostage to rescue.

Probably waiting for the next pirate abduction.

no trade-backs

Anyone else read that as "no trade-black?"

He's helped recover hostages before and this is probably the most useful purpose he can serve at this point.

Hey, he got those three US Army pussies back from Yugoslavia who managed to get captured. Why not let him try again? What's bad about that?

Why did he offer to go to Iraq when the journalist is in Iran?

someonelse: Why did he offer to go to Iraq when the journalist is in Iran?

Perhaps he's part Polish.

DarnoKonrad: globalwarmingpraiser: He is a douchebag, who is treated like a great man. Jesse Jackson is a disgrace and has mastered the art of the shakedown.

You give the man more credit than warrants. I find his detractors to be more peculiar than the man.

Kinda like those obsessed with Chavez.

There's a mechanism operating here I don't understand.

The man is like the Anti Jimmy Carter. I dislike Carters politics, but he does good things for the purpose of doing good things. Jackson never does this stuff without a cadre of press. That is why he pisses so many people off. He has done a lot of harm to civil rights by being willing to scream racism every time a white person does something and a black person suffers. Even when it turns out the white person is completely innocent, they are still wrong because they were born with a light skin tone.

Sure, ignore the fact that Jesse actually HAS been pretty successful in pulling off this kind of thing in the past.

someonelse: Why did he offer to go to Iraq when the journalist is in Iran?

Why are you the sixth person to mention that in this thread? ;)

Edsel: Sure, ignore the fact that Jesse actually HAS been pretty successful in pulling off this kind of thing in the past.

I don't think the gist of the conversation is his competency as a negotiator.

Anti_illuminati: someonelse: Why did he offer to go to Iraq when the journalist is in Iran?

Why are you the sixth person to mention that in this thread? ;)

Peer pressure!

someonelse: Why did he offer to go to Iraq when the journalist is in Iran?

Because Iraq has better targets?

IXI Jim IXI: Edsel: Sure, ignore the fact that Jesse actually HAS been pretty successful in pulling off this kind of thing in the past.

I don't think the gist of the conversation is his competency as a negotiator.

Sure, why discuss the actual utility of the proposal when people can just hurl ad hominems at the guy?

Jairzinho: someonelse: Why did he offer to go to Iraq when the journalist is in Iran?

Because Iraq has better targets?

Because historically we've taken similar actions?

Edsel: IXI Jim IXI: Edsel: Sure, ignore the fact that Jesse actually HAS been pretty successful in pulling off this kind of thing in the past.

I don't think the gist of the conversation is his competency as a negotiator.

Sure, why discuss the actual utility of the proposal when people can just hurl ad hominems at the guy?

Kiss it. xD

Edsel:

Sure, why discuss the actual utility of the proposal when people can just hurl ad hominems at the guy?

We're addressing the utility of his proposal. He trades himself for the journalist, we get the journalist back, and then move before the abductors realize they got stuck with Jesse Jackson and try to give him back.

IXI Jim IXI: Edsel:

Sure, why discuss the actual utility of the proposal when people can just hurl ad hominems at the guy?

We're addressing the utility of his proposal. He trades himself for the journalist, we get the journalist back, and then move before the abductors realize they got stuck with Jesse Jackson and try to give him back.

Sarcasm? He offered to go there and appeal for her release. He's been able to do it before. Just ask LT Robert Goodman, among others.

Edsel: Sarcasm? He offered to go there and appeal for her release. He's been able to do it before. Just ask LT Robert Goodman, among others.

Yes, and nobody has any problem with his negotiating skills...

Edsel: IXI Jim IXI: Edsel:

Sure, why discuss the actual utility of the proposal when people can just hurl ad hominems at the guy?

We're addressing the utility of his proposal. He trades himself for the journalist, we get the journalist back, and then move before the abductors realize they got stuck with Jesse Jackson and try to give him back.

Sarcasm? He offered to go there and appeal for her release. He's been able to do it before. Just ask LT Robert Goodman, among others.

Why.
So.
Serious?

Anti_illuminati: Edsel: IXI Jim IXI: Edsel:

Sure, why discuss the actual utility of the proposal when people can just hurl ad hominems at the guy?

We're addressing the utility of his proposal. He trades himself for the journalist, we get the journalist back, and then move before the abductors realize they got stuck with Jesse Jackson and try to give him back.

Sarcasm? He offered to go there and appeal for her release. He's been able to do it before. Just ask LT Robert Goodman, among others.

Why.
So.
Serious?

You know who else got people out of Iran?

Thats right noone ever expect's.







H. Ross Perot.

DarnoKonrad: But I still fail to understand the level of vitriol hurled in his direction.

His career over the last ten years has been to lambast people who drop the N-bomb, but he has in the past had no problem dropping racial slurs against jews, and has used the n-bomb himslef.

He has to take Al Sharpton with him.


We do not need the race baiters here anymore now that America has been healed.

liam76: DarnoKonrad: But I still fail to understand the level of vitriol hurled in his direction.

His career over the last ten years has been to lambast people who drop the N-bomb, but he has in the past had no problem dropping racial slurs against jews, and has used the n-bomb himslef.

Nothing Jackson has done is of particular note -- the stuff you just listed is milquetoast. Inanity. There are others of much stronger stuff that make money off of being hypocritical twits -- that don't get universally panned -- and don't even do it under the guise of something good.

The Right pays him an inordinate amount of attention.

DarnoKonrad: liam76: DarnoKonrad: But I still fail to understand the level of vitriol hurled in his direction.

His career over the last ten years has been to lambast people who drop the N-bomb, but he has in the past had no problem dropping racial slurs against jews, and has used the n-bomb himslef.

Nothing Jackson has done is of particular note -- the stuff you just listed is milquetoast. Inanity. There are others of much stronger stuff that make money off of being hypocritical twits -- that don't get universally panned -- and don't even do it under the guise of something good.

The Right pays him an inordinate amount of attention.

That is the point, he acts like he is doing a good thing by performing his crap.

We'll even throw in Sharpton for free, deal? Deal? Please??

globalwarmingpraiser: That is the point, he acts like he is doing a good thing by performing his crap.

Yeah, most self-described martyrs are like that. I checked his Wiki and was kinda surprised that, on the same trip where he rescued Bobby Goodman, he was accompanied by Jeremiah Wright and Louis Farrakhan. That is one trifecta I'd love to see get lost.

Ex Parte Gilligan: globalwarmingpraiser: That is the point, he acts like he is doing a good thing by performing his crap.

Yeah, most self-described martyrs are like that. I checked his Wiki and was kinda surprised that, on the same trip where he rescued Bobby Goodman, he was accompanied by Jeremiah Wright and Louis Farrakhan. That is one trifecta I'd love to see get lost.

Conversation on that plane.

I hate whitey

Me too.

Repeat ad infinatum

I heard he's taking a "I Hate Hymietown" t-shirt for Ahmadinejad as a gift of friendship.

Plane crash. Dear god, plane crash

I will give all my earthly possessions just to see his jet make as a flaming meteor to the ground

Our enemies often see Jackson as a representative of "victims of US oppression", which puts him in opposition to the US government. They can negotiate with him without appearing to cave in to US pressure. It's back-door diplomacy and I'm surprised all these fans of "realpolitik" have such a problem with the concept.

/must be the butthurt...

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Our enemies often see Jackson as a representative of "victims of US oppression", which puts him in opposition to the US government. They can negotiate with him without appearing to cave in to US pressure. It's back-door diplomacy and I'm surprised all these fans of "realpolitik" have such a problem with the concept.

/must be the butthurt...

I think Assad thought he'd get better mileage out of using Jackson than he did, but one of the more brilliant moves of Reagan was in taking the piss when Jackson got that flyer out of Syria. White House ceremony, lauded Jackson as a good man and a patriot, etc.

globalwarmingpraiser: You know who else got people out of Iran?

Thats right noone ever expect's.

The funny thing is that he was actually able to get his people out BECAUSE of the Islamic Revolution.

cartersdad: Iraq?

I thought she was in Iran.

I might be confused...it's early.

Maybe he needs a map, such as?

It doesn't really matter, because the point is moot.

Maybe Jessie will offer to cut Barrack's nuts off as part of the negotiation process.