FTA: No men busted in a prostitution sting over the weekend where undercover police officers posted a Craigslist advertisement offering sex for cash matched the description of a man described as a "person of interest" in the fatal shooting of a New York woman Tuesday inside a Boston hotel.

WTF? Is that the worst written sentence in history?

BTW subby, only 20 of the arrest were from Craigslist. The other 30 were just plain ol john traps.

Not to be uber-technical, isn't it "shooting fish in a barrel"?

That's where I bought my car; I always wondered why the rear vinyl seats were sticky.

Dil Doe: Not to be uber-technical, isn't it "shooting fish in a barrel"?

And shouldn't it be "where" and not "were"?

What a sex sting may look like

SUBBY = FAIL

I came here from cruising Craigslist, so I'm really getting a kick..... who's that at the door?

I realize that the term entrapment is often thrown about... but when they post an advertisement on the web to get the johns, who absent the add may not have even thought of hiring a protestute... isn't that the definition of entrapement?

Sometimes I think Farkmins greenlight headlines like this just because they want to rile people up.

/is riled

I'm watching the Mythbusters about shooting fish in a barrel, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies...

/dnrtfa

Dil Doe: Not to be uber-technical, isn't it "shooting fish in a barrel"?

Some stitches in time save something.

8 years here, and only 1.5 months to go before I'm outta here!

Wow. What a complete waste of time and money.

"Sex sting"?

You can get that taken care of down at the clinic on the east side.

NightOwl2255: FTA: No men busted in a prostitution sting over the weekend where undercover police officers posted a Craigslist advertisement offering sex for cash matched the description of a man described as a "person of interest" in the fatal shooting of a New York woman Tuesday inside a Boston hotel.

WTF? Is that the worst written sentence in history?

I came here to say this

How long until they pull a craigslist 420 sting? Or has that been done?

Dil Doe: Not to be uber-technical, isn't it "shooting fish in a barrel"?

Maybe he was implying that the arrests were quite difficult to make. If he said "catching crawfish in a barrel," well, that would be a different story.

Monty845: I realize that the term entrapment is often thrown about... but when they post an advertisement on the web to get the johns, who absent the add may not have even thought of hiring a protestute... isn't that the definition of entrapement?

It's not like the "casual encounters" section of Craigslist was created just so the cops could run this sting. The johns actively went there.

To me, a better example of "entrapment" is when the cops put an unlocked bike next to a grocery store, then arrest anyone who rides off on it.

/Not that I support bike thieves, but I doubt anyone went to the grocery store looking for a bike to steal.
//Unlike the people who went to Casual Encounters and clicked on the link that said "$ex me up you big $tud."

Colonel_Debugger: How long until they pull a craigslist 420 sting? Or has that been done?

How about all the "party and play" people? Seems like they're advertising that they have narcotics. (Or that they'll exchange sex for narcotics.)

Is it too much to ask for articles that are written by someone that's smarter than a 5th grader? Reading that thing was painful.

Colonel_Debugger: How long until they pull a craigslist 420 sting? Or has that been done?

I hear that they try to set them up all the time, but then everyone loses interest.

NightOwl2255: FTA: No men busted in a prostitution sting over the weekend where undercover police officers posted a Craigslist advertisement offering sex for cash matched the description of a man described as a "person of interest" in the fatal shooting of a New York woman Tuesday inside a Boston hotel.

WTF? Is that the worst written sentence in history?

had it copied and was coming to say this. you beat me to it cause i read it 20 times TRYING to make sense of the mess

The article is awful, the submitter is awful, everythnig including the comments is downright filling me with awe.

If Pirate's Bay can be guilty of copyright infringement, and, uh, piracy, couldn't craigslist be guilty of pimping by having a section dedicated to 'erotic' services ads?

thenateman: How about all the "party and play" people?

"Party and play" has long been gay slang for "lets do meth and fark".

Its a really good way to get AIDS, herpes, syphilis, or all three.

thenateman: Monty845: I realize that the term entrapment is often thrown about... but when they post an advertisement on the web to get the johns, who absent the add may not have even thought of hiring a protestute... isn't that the definition of entrapement?

It's not like the "casual encounters" section of Craigslist was created just so the cops could run this sting. The johns actively went there.

To me, a better example of "entrapment" is when the cops put an unlocked bike next to a grocery store, then arrest anyone who rides off on it.


Still not entrapment. Nothing is making you take the bike (except your own greed).

Entrapment might be something like an undercover cop telling you he's going to harm you unless you take the bike. You're basically forced into performing the illegal act.

If the cops figured out craigslist prostitution where I live in Mississippi, it's a good bet that everyone else on the planet knows about it too.

The cops placing the sex ads should be the ones getting arrested.

Yes I know that's not what happens, but it's what should happen.

vernonFL: "Party and play" has long been gay slang for "lets do meth and fark".

Its a really good way to get AIDS, herpes, syphilis, or all three.

Since it's so awful, the cops should totally be setting up PnP stings. Heaven forbid people stay up all night having sex. Most of them probably don't even know that you can get sexually transmitted diseases that way.

Haha! Mythbusters are testing the shooting fish in a barrel myth right now.

spiralscratch: Still not entrapment. Nothing is making you take the bike (except your own greed).

Entrapment might be something like an undercover cop telling you he's going to harm you unless you take the bike. You're basically forced into performing the illegal act.

I'll admit that I don't really know what entrapment is. But the bike stings irritate me on at least three levels.

It seems we have a complaint from a lady in Worcester,
Who claimed that a rooster seduced her.

Whew, glad I stayed home and got drunk this weekend....

The Worcester T&G, where professional writers fail to comprehend the concept of the run-on sentence.

thenateman: Monty845: I realize that the term entrapment is often thrown about... but when they post an advertisement on the web to get the johns, who absent the add may not have even thought of hiring a protestute... isn't that the definition of entrapement?

It's not like the "casual encounters" section of Craigslist was created just so the cops could run this sting. The johns actively went there.

To me, a better example of "entrapment" is when the cops put an unlocked bike next to a grocery store, then arrest anyone who rides off on it.

For it to be entrapment, the police had to have a hand in getting the perp to do something that they otherwise would not have done. The police did not call any of the johns and say, "hey did you see that advert on Craigslist? You should check it out." Also just because there is an unlocked bike does not mean it could be considered entrapment. Someone riding off on an unlocked bike that is not theirs is not entrapment, it's stealing. Again 5-O would have to play a role in getting someone to steal the bike that otherwise would not have stolen the bike.

/Not that I support bike thieves, but I doubt anyone went to the grocery store looking for a bike to steal.
//Unlike the people who went to Casual Encounters and clicked on the link that said "$ex me up you big $tud."

Wow, you Americans are really farked up about sex aren't ya? Still, you were founded by joyless puritans who got their kicks burning nubile young women.

Paying for sex. The horror! The horror! Owning a military assault rifle is just peachy though.

Born and raised in Worcester, i'd just like to add that i would wager most of those prostitutes were white girls from SPM, or Albanians.

thenateman: To me, a better example of "entrapment" is when the cops put an unlocked bike next to a grocery store, then arrest anyone who rides off on it."

I used to know a guy who thought "entrapment" was any arrest involving an undercover cop, even after being shown the relevant statutes, "Law For Dummies" type websites, etc. His idiot reasoning was that if they'd known they were talking to a cop they wouldn't have broken the law, so therefore it was entrapment.

thenateman: I'll admit that I don't really know what entrapment is. But the bike stings irritate me on at least three levels.

Why? To me that is clearly stealing. You presume because it's not locked up it's free? WTF?

Suede head: Wow, you Americans are really farked up about sex aren't ya? Still, you were founded by joyless puritans who got their kicks burning nubile young women.

Paying for sex. The horror! The horror! Owning a military assault rifle is just peachy though.

Well you have to have a quick and easy means of destroying the evil that coerced you into sinning against god and spending your whiskey money.

Suede head: Wow, you Americans are really farked up about sex aren't ya? Still, you were founded by joyless puritans who got their kicks burning nubile young women.

Paying for sex. The horror! The horror! Owning a military assault rifle is just peachy though.

That's exactly what should be illegal, arranged over Craigslist in hotel rooms only promotes human trafficking and pimping.

How about regulating it like any other business?

Suede head: Wow, you Americans are really farked up about sex aren't ya? Still, you were founded by joyless puritans who got their kicks burning nubile young women.

Paying for sex. The horror! The horror! Owning a military assault rifle is just peachy though.

To be fair, most people who own assault rifles have no problem paying for sex

I'll admit that I don't really know what entrapment is. But the bike stings irritate me on at least three levels.

If it's not yours, don't take. Really simple concept. Why get bent even on one level, yet alone three?

I don't ever get this prositution thing here...

Couldn't the johns claim they're only paying for the hired time, not service itself?

Here's what I mean, Escorts do this all the time:
First 45 mins are paid time, Date or makeouts and whatnot...

The last 15 mins are unpaid time and therefore consensual acts between two adults.

CrispFlows: Couldn't the johns claim they're only paying for the hired time, not service itself?

I think I've got this solved...

The sex should be filmed, then it's protected First Amendment political expression. Whomever pays then also gets to keep the video tape.

*bows*

CrispFlows: I don't ever get this prositution thing here...

Couldn't the johns claim they're only paying for the hired time, not service itself?

Here's what I mean, Escorts do this all the time:
First 45 mins are paid time, Date or makeouts and whatnot...

The last 15 mins are unpaid time and therefore consensual acts between two adults.

Well the escorts know what exactly to say to avoid trouble, while the police stings know what exactly to say to get you in trouble.

Entrapment is an extremely delicate issue. Prostitution stings have been thrown out because the undercover cop was considered to be too attractive and "enticed" men that wouldn't have thought of prostitution otherwise. The general idea is that everyone has their price and you're not supposed to "tempt" people into committing a crime.

If the cops posted a super model as a lure and then offered sex for $20, there's a case for entrapment.

A cop offering a random guy $10000 to act as a drug mule is entrapment.

A cop posing as the cable guy and offering to hook all the channels up for free in return for $50 is entrapment.

The unlocked bike thing isn't entrapment.

overall these prostitution stings are an absolute waste of time and taxpayer money. If they are going after underage hookers in order to get them some help or going after what are basically sex slaves then it's a very noble action and worthwhile.

Posting an ad to see how many men will pay for sex when in fact NOBODY is actually being victimized in this particular situation and in fact the sex worker doesn't even exist is idiotic.

Schmegicky: CrispFlows: Couldn't the johns claim they're only paying for the hired time, not service itself?

I think I've got this solved...

The sex should be filmed, then it's protected First Amendment political expression. Whomever pays then also gets to keep the video tape.

*bows*

Only if you got a license to produce adult themed productions.

I'm serious, that is why the licenses were required.

/ Damn you all, Politicians.
// Except you, Obama. You're cool.

fritton: Entrapment is an extremely delicate issue. Prostitution stings have been thrown out because the undercover cop was considered to be too attractive and "enticed" men that wouldn't have thought of prostitution otherwise. The general idea is that everyone has their price and you're not supposed to "tempt" people into committing a crime.

If the cops posted a super model as a lure and then offered sex for $20, there's a case for entrapment.

A cop offering a random guy $10000 to act as a drug mule is entrapment.

A cop posing as the cable guy and offering to hook all the channels up for free in return for $50 is entrapment.

The unlocked bike thing isn't entrapment.

overall these prostitution stings are an absolute waste of time and taxpayer money. If they are going after underage hookers in order to get them some help or going after what are basically sex slaves then it's a very noble action and worthwhile.

Posting an ad to see how many men will pay for sex when in fact NOBODY is actually being victimized in this particular situation and in fact the sex worker doesn't even exist is idiotic.

Also note that according to the article they busted people for just responding to the ad and showing up to the hotel. If they have a good lawyer they will get off on the premise that they didn't understand the vernacular of the craigslist ad and they thought they were just showing up to meet someone for casual sex, not pay for it.

CrispFlows: I don't ever get this prositution thing here...

Couldn't the johns claim they're only paying for the hired time, not service itself?

Because the women they use in the stings or the phrasing is designed to make sure they cannot use that as a defense.

It's why the smart prostitutes make the guy get do stuff or use obtuse language to make sure they aren't police officers.

I don't know all the details since that's not a vice I indulge, but talking with a friend (public health worker) who works in Vegas where prostitution is rampant, and most seem to have some system.

I'm sure all sorts of avoidance methods are available via a simple search from google, but I imagine most are based around not obviously agreeing to pay for sex.