News: Student beaten at school, rushed into surgery. Fark: Administrator defended not calling the police saying "at the time of the incident, the administrators didn't know a crime had been committed""but then the guvmint's gonna give us less money and brand us a bad school"

FTFTruth

Similar incident where girl has a stroke, school refused to call 911 because it'd make them look bad (new window)

According to the article the boys were friends. Reminds me of a headline I read once. "Man beats friend to death with pipe". I bet at some point during the beating, the friendship was over. Or my other favorite, "Man drowns while fishing". I bet at some point he stopped fishing and started trying to swim.

His attacker, a classmate and friend, has been arrested and charged with felony assault.

I doubt they're still friends.

Zero tolerance polices suck. But doing nothing policies also suck. Try a police that is about in the middle of these two ideas.

FTA: It started as an exchange of words in the cafeteria of Williamsville South High School. It ended with one student being beaten so badly that he suffered multiple cheek, nose and bone fractures to his face, and a torn retina.

Michael Lang, a 17-year-old junior, underwent surgery early this month and had four plates put in his face during a surgery that lasted nearly four hours. His attacker, a classmate and friend, has been arrested and charged with felony assault.

Jeebus. When I was in high school, I punched a guy that had shoved me and farked up his cheekbone/eye orbital real bad. I felt sick almost immediately, and obviously the fight wasn't going to continue. I can't imagine doing that plus more to anyone I've ever thought of as a friend.

Also, retina problems suck. I had a detached retina (and a chopped-in-half eyelid) from getting highsticked during a hockey game and that took forever to heal. I got to wear an eyepatch, though, which was sort of cool.

For the administration, I'm guessing this is a damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't situation.

To be fair, the administrator was too busy stripping students so he could find some aspirin for his headache.

In his defense, it can be really hard to discern "zany hijinks" from "psychotic bloodbath".

tbyte: To be fair, the administrator was too busy stripping students so he could find some aspirin for his headache.

well, i mean, can you really blame the guy?

I can see the schools point of view. It's irresponsible to call the police every time there is a fight and I wouldn't be that surprised if a fight which resulted in a broken cheek bone would look that much worse than a fight where a person got hit in the nose one time and it bled a lot.

The kid got medical attention right away, they knew who did it, what difference does it make if it's reported minutes after it happened or the day after a doctor saw him?

Brian Gould, School Board president for the Cheektowaga Central School District and a town police officer, said that while every case needs to be weighed on its own merits, Cheektowaga administrators routinely talk with their police liaisons when incidents like this occur.

Possible conflict of interest? Somehow I feel he will shovel this one under the rug.

40oz_A_Knight: FTA: It started as an exchange of words in the cafeteria of Williamsville South High School. It ended with one student being beaten so badly that he suffered multiple cheek, nose and bone fractures to his face, and a torn retina.

Michael Lang, a 17-year-old junior, underwent surgery early this month and had four plates put in his face during a surgery that lasted nearly four hours. His attacker, a classmate and friend, has been arrested and charged with felony assault.

Jeebus. When I was in high school, I punched a guy that had shoved me and farked up his cheekbone/eye orbital real bad. I felt sick almost immediately, and obviously the fight wasn't going to continue. I can't imagine doing that plus more to anyone I've ever thought of as a friend.



Yeah but did you catch that they were both on the wrestling team?

My money is on roid rage

This is VERY common.

If it's not reported to the police, they don't have to keep it on record as a violent act.

Makes schools safer... at least on paper.

Colleges do the same thing, that's what college police are for. In most states if the college cops (even if they have a real badge and arresting powers) handle it, the school can discipline rather than go through the legal system. That's why some schools have several rapes and assaults in a year, and much larger schools go decades without a crime.

It's a loophole. I wish someone would close it already. It makes records on school violence misleading and lets guilty people get away with their crimes so that their school doesn't look bad. It's outright wrong.

PoochUMD: I can see the schools point of view. It's irresponsible to call the police every time there is a fight and I wouldn't be that surprised if a fight which resulted in a broken cheek bone would look that much worse than a fight where a person got hit in the nose one time and it bled a lot.

The kid got medical attention right away, they knew who did it, what difference does it make if it's reported minutes after it happened or the day after a doctor saw him?

Sure, if there's a one-punch fight.

If a kid jumps another kid from behind, and beats his face into something unrecognizable, I'd say that does beyond the "boys will be boys" attitude that we seem to have when kids do stupid things. That's beyond a skirmish, that's a violent assault.

Perhaps if you'd administered a few 'fatal beatings'early on, he'd have grown up a very different boy indeed. (new window)

tbyte: To be fair, the administrator was too busy stripping students so he could find some aspirin for his headache.

This.

Am I crazy, or did schools really start going insane in the past ten years or so?

Less calling the police over aspirin.

More calling the police over students being badly beaten.

dionada

tbyte: To be fair, the administrator was too busy stripping students so he could find some aspirin for his headache.

This.

Am I crazy, or did schools really start going insane in the past ten years or so?

I had this discussion last week with my brother (who teaches at a special needs school). I graduated in 1998, and he graduated in 2001. When I was a senior, we could carry our backpacks into class with us; when he was a senior, they had to have clear pencil pouches, plain book covers for textbooks, and no coats or hoodies in the classroom.

We went to school in Iowa, and not even after the Bell Tower Massacre did things take a turn. No, it was Columbine.
Now, everything is a potential threat to our porcelain children. We have to keep them safe, even at the expense of their own childhood.

And Federal funding, of course.

I was in a couple nasty fights as a kid in junior high. I was so damn glad to get into a Catholic high school where they could expel kids over this sort of thing. The worst part about it was since I'm a girl and the ones I fought with are girls, no one took it too seriously. At the time, I could bench more than my own weight and was honestly afraid of putting one of those dippy biatches in the hospital and being up on charges simply because I fought back.

The experience taught us to document the hell out of everything and turn it over to the police department any time the administration was lacking balls. It takes courage to stand up to the parents of the little biatches and tell them their girls are out of control and this dean of students didn't have it. Unfortunately for my kids schools, the experience has taught me to call the police and make a case the first time instead of waiting for there to be a more serious second time.

/mildly overprotective parent.
//seriously was benching 160# as a little 14 year old.
///not raising any snowflakes, but not just permitting fights either.
//gave up weight lifting and competitive swimming and got my period back.
/slashies

I can buy that, after all they were not strip searching kids looking for advil, so it is cool.

"Duty to inform" laws? I hope it's a felony.

panda: His attacker, a classmate and friend, has been arrested and charged with felony assault.

I doubt they're still friends.

Hmmm...wrestlers...and serious overreaction coupled with attack because of apparently trivial disagreement.

*sniff...sniff*

Do I catch the scent of steroid usage here?
That could go a long way toward 'splainin' why principal didn't want the cops involved...

/ Or could it be...SATAN???

I see we have an idiot school administration trifecta in play.

School administrators=government employees=OBVIOUS

telosphilos: The worst part about it was since I'm a girl and the ones I fought with are girls, no one took it too seriously. At the time, I could bench more than my own weight

Awwwwwww so you could bench 100lbs, isnt that cute.

smooshie: News: Student beaten at school, rushed into surgery. Fark: Administrator defended not calling the police saying "at the time of the incident, the administrators didn't know a crime had been committed""but then the guvmint's gonna give us less money and brand us a bad school"

FTFTruth

Similar incident where girl has a stroke, school refused to call 911 because it'd make them look bad (new window)


That wouldn't be surprising. I hate Williamsville. Wealthy assholes.

A Zombie walks into a butcher shop and asks the butcher what he has on sale.

Well, says the shopkeeper. I have normal brains at $2 a pound and School administrator brains at $50 a pound.

The zombie says "How come school administrator's brains are so expensive?"

Butcher says "have you any idea how many school administrators I need to kill just to get a frickin' POUND of brains?"

Anyone have a pic of those paper bag style text book covers they gave out in high school back in the 80's ?

This is why students should be allowed to havre guns in school. It would put a stop to this type of thing.

S7P: Anyone have a pic of those paper bag style text book covers they gave out in high school back in the 80's ?

They gave 'em out? Damn, I had to make my own out of real paper bags.

tbyte: S7P: Anyone have a pic of those paper bag style text book covers they gave out in high school back in the 80's ?

They gave 'em out? Damn, I had to make my own out of real paper bags.

Same here. What fancy-pants school did you go to?

PoochUMD: It's irresponsible to call the police every time there is a fight

Why?

Maybe there wouldn't be so many fights if the students knew that there would be real consequences.

tbyte: real paper bags.

Real paper bags? You were lucky!

dna_level_c: tbyte: real paper bags.

Real paper bags? You were lucky!


So you had to make your own paper bags with wood pulp, water and an old screen door?

That is such a shame. But at the same time I bet they were damn good paper bags.

steamingpile: Awwwwwww so you could bench 100lbs, isnt that cute.

I LOLd.

steamingpile: telosphilos: The worst part about it was since I'm a girl and the ones I fought with are girls, no one took it too seriously. At the time, I could bench more than my own weight

Awwwwwww so you could bench 100lbs, isnt that cute.

came for the comments... staying for the ass whoppin

We didn't have paper covers for text books and didn't care if our books got scuffed.

S7P: Anyone have a pic of those paper bag style text book covers they gave out in high school back in the 80's ?

I think I have one, still.

Hey, it beats the book condoms that were popular when I went to high school.

tbyte: S7P: Anyone have a pic of those paper bag style text book covers they gave out in high school back in the 80's ?

They gave 'em out? Damn, I had to make my own out of real paper bags.

We used newspapers, although the Electric Coop used to give some out

pmhauge
Same here. What fancy-pants school did you go to?

Nothing fancy about the New Jersey public school system to be sure. I believe it had an image of Thomas Jefferson on the cover and the pledge of allegiance all but i could be wrong. It's been a while.

This is news? Everyone knows laws don't apply at schools. They are beholden only to themselves.

/This is going on your permanent record Subby

puffy999: S7P: Anyone have a pic of those paper bag style text book covers they gave out in high school back in the 80's ?

I think I have one, still.

Hey, it beats the book condoms that were popular when I went to high school.

Book condoms? Did they stop the spread of knowledge? I thought that was the school administrations job.

Really, did you people not have to buy your own books or something? Why would a school give a rat's ass what, if anything, you put over your books?

dna_level_c: tbyte: real paper bags.

Real paper bags? You were lucky!

Hell we had to rob butcher paper from the art class. At least we had a choice of color.

steamingpile: telosphilos: The worst part about it was since I'm a girl and the ones I fought with are girls, no one took it too seriously. At the time, I could bench more than my own weight

Awwwwwww so you could bench 100lbs, isnt that cute.

More accurately, I weighed all of 120# which was heaving for a tiny thing like me. I was benching 160#, but I could do 180# for the requisite five reps. *eyeroll* For a jr high girl, that's a lot. And when you know how to apply force, well, you don't need much now do you?

Of course, I know more now, but I don't lift near as much weight. Stay away from my kids and no ass whoopings will be on the menu.

dna_level_c: tbyte: real paper bags.

Real paper bags? You were lucky!

Curtis Byers: 1-4
Mike Lang: 2-3

they both sucked. probably fatties too.

dna_level_c: tbyte: real paper bags.

Real paper bags? You were lucky!

Yes in fact were were told we were lucky, because "Russians can't afford paper for their schools."