He definitely meets the current litmus test for a promising Republican: he doesn't reveal himself as absolutely barking mad whenever he opens his mouth.

FTA: With polls showing the GOP brand tarnished,

So the democrat party is what....tainted?....polluted?...there are sooo many words to describe it

necropoultryac: So the democrat party is what....tainted?....polluted?...there are sooo many words to describe it

"winning"

hillbillypharmacist: necropoultryac: So the democrat party is what....tainted?....polluted?...there are sooo many words to describe it

"winning"

PWNED.

FTFA: Cantor aims to recast House Republicans as more than the "party of no." He's promoting what he calls an "entrepreneurial insurgency" by offering alternatives on the stimulus, the budget, and housing.

So offering alternatives to anything the Obama administration suggests is different from saying "no" how? Isn't the definition of insurgency an armed rebellion?

Sorry, GOP--you're still out of touch. This is the guy who blamed problems with TARP on Pelosi.

Is this article for 4 months ago? Cantor is going downhill.

I knew this was going to be about Cantor, kinda obvious.

I really wonder how the election would have turned out if he had been tagged as VP and not Palin. I think results could have been quite different.

Tatsuma: I really wonder how the election would have turned out if he had been tagged as VP and not Palin. I think results could have been quite different.

Yup. McCain would have lost by half as much.

Tatsuma: I really wonder how the election would have turned out if he had been tagged as VP and not Palin. I think results could have been quite different.

Yes. Because Eric Cantor is an incredibly compelling figure.

hillbillypharmacist: Yup. McCain would have lost by half as much.

It's just speculations, but only half of his losses would have meant a virtual tie, pretty much.

DamnYankees: Yes. Because Eric Cantor is an incredibly compelling figure.

Much more than Palin, and I think he would have been an easier time convincing independents and even evangelicals.

Tatsuma: Much more than Palin, and I think he would have been an easier time convincing independents and even evangelicals.

You think he would have done better with evangelicals than Palin? Pardon?

Other then Southern, you could have cut out the rest after saying Jewish. Right? I mean, that's what I've been told.

DamnYankees: You think he would have done better with evangelicals than Palin? Pardon?

Yes, actually. Evangelicals were still lukewarm with Palin.

Cantor is a religious man as well, he would have found common grounds with them, and well, he would have handled being in the spotlight in a much better way than they would. Fabulous hair, a smile and a wink elections do not win.

Tatsuma: Yes, actually. Evangelicals were still lukewarm with Palin.



Tatsuma: Cantor is a religious man as well, he would have found common grounds with them

Yeah. Those fundies love other religions. That's why Mitt Romney was such a force.

DamnYankees: Yeah. Those fundies love other religions. That's why Mitt Romney was such a force.

The evangelicals love Judaism, it's Mormonism they generally can't stand.

As for the citation needed, did you read any post-election demographic surveys? From what I saw, the evangelical turnout in favor of Republicans was lower than it had been in 8 years.

I thought it was Jonathan Krohn.

Tatsuma: The evangelicals love Judaism, it's Mormonism they generally can't stand.

Again, citation needed. Supporting Israel because of millenarianism is not the same thing as supporting Judaism.

Tatsuma: From what I saw, the evangelical turnout in favor of Republicans was lower than it had been in 8 years.

This is not evidence of anything. It probably would have been lower without Palin.

DamnYankees: This is not evidence of anything. It probably would have been lower without Palin.

Agreed.

Palin is a powerhouse.

Let's hope she's the face of the party for 2010. Imagine the shift in the House and Senate.

Let's all hope she gets the nom in 2012.

It's the only way.

/we love u sarah

Future indeed.

meh, this freeper doesn't have a single original idea to establish the freeper party back to a national spotlight.

/I did feel bad for him when Lawrence O Donnell tore him a new one

DamnYankees: Again, citation needed. Supporting Israel because of millenarianism is not the same thing as supporting Judaism.

Are you seriously unaware of the ever-growing philo-semitism of American Evangelicals?

DamnYankees: Again, citation needed. Supporting Israel because of millenarianism is not the same thing as supporting Judaism.

Yup. These people dream of the day when Jesus comes back and kills all the Jews who don't accept him.
But Israel needs to exist for that to happen.
So...support Israel so that Jews can be killed.

/Putting the fun and the mental in fundamentalism.

Tatsuma: DamnYankees: Again, citation needed. Supporting Israel because of millenarianism is not the same thing as supporting Judaism.

Are you seriously unaware of the ever-growing philo-semitism of American Evangelicals?

I think its basically meaningless and shallow. When you consider most American Jews are far more like those Hollywood liberals and New York elites, and who's political views are completely opposite of Fundies, its a phantom.

Needs more gay.

The song remains the same.

/ see, 'cause his name is Cantor...
//I shouldn't explain these things

0Icky0: Yup. These people dream of the day when Jesus comes back and kills all the Jews who don't accept him.
But Israel needs to exist for that to happen.
So...support Israel so that Jews can be killed.

There, corrected for accuracy.

They don't want Jews to die, they think that their guy will be come, Jews will go "Oops, lol, we were wrong" and mass convert and all will be peachy.

The only xians who actively wish for Jews to die when their guy comes back are the White Identity folks and others like them.

DamnYankees: I think its basically meaningless and shallow. When you consider most American Jews are far more like those Hollywood liberals and New York elites, and who's political views are completely opposite of Fundies, its a phantom.

It's a reverting trend, and the fundies are really fond of Israel and religious Jews. I've experienced it many many times in the past.

Tatsuma: They don't want Jews to die, they think that their guy will be come, Jews will go "Oops, lol, we were wrong" and mass convert and all will be peachy.

That you call this "philo-semitism" is creepy.

With polls showing the GOP brand tarnished, Cantor aims to recast House Republicans as more than the "party of no." He's promoting what he calls an "entrepreneurial insurgency" by offering alternatives on the stimulus, the budget, and housing. Proposals on healthcare, energy, and retirement security are in the works

Ummm...you might want to rephrase that.

Tatsuma: It's a reverting trend, and the fundies are really fond of Israel and religious Jews. I've experienced it many many times in the past.

Fond of Israel I already grant, and its for farked up reasons.

Religious Jews are a minority of Jews in America. It's far more fair to say that they are simply fans of religious people who aren't Muslim. The actual Jews who live in this country are the talisman's of scorn among the GOP and the Fundies.

the future should look like this. if republicans weren't ignorant

she knows a lost battle when she sees one.

sinanju: Future indeed.

Tatsuma: They don't want Jews to die, they think that their guy will be come, Jews will go "Oops, lol, we were wrong" and mass convert and all will be peachy.

They don't want EX-Jews to die.
Jews? Yeah, they're toast.

DamnYankees: That you call this "philo-semitism" is creepy.

How is that creepy? They think that we're wrong and they want us to spend the rest of eternity chilling with them in Paradise, so they think one day we'll realize our "mistake". This is pretty much the flip side of what religious Jews think about them.

Not exactly something creepy or dangerous. Pretty much every religion out there says that eventually everyone will come to recognize that they are right.

Tatsuma: This is pretty much the flip side of what religious Jews think about them.

Wait....you want to spend eternity with these people?

Hell.

How do they stop looking like the "party of no" when saying no is the only power they have to wield? Every Republican proposal is about government doing less (not actually doing less or spending less, but directing funds to private entities who aren't accountable to voters) and allowing less (culture wars). They got nothin' to sell to anybody who hasn't already bought it.

Whatever reinvented images they come up with are disingenuous unless Republicans start to agree with Democrats on some issues (or find new issues that Democrats are forced to agree with Republicans on). On their present stubborn course the only way Republicans get back in is if they can make Democrats look worse, which means the condition of the country has to get a lot worse or stagnate for a long time before Democrats can be blamed.

0Icky0: Wait....you want to spend eternity with these people?

That doesn't mean we'll be rubbing elbows, but if they are nice people, why not?

They can stay next to the candycorn forest while I chill next to the chocolate milk lake. Been watching too much scrubs.

0Icky0: They don't want EX-Jews to die.
Jews? Yeah, they're toast.

The Evangelicals are, for the most part, moving away from supersessionism.

DamnYankees: Tatsuma: Yes, actually. Evangelicals were still lukewarm with Palin.

[citation needed]


Tatsuma: Cantor is a religious man as well, he would have found common grounds with them

Yeah. Those fundies love other religions. That's why Mitt Romney was such a force.

"McCain achieved a doubling of support among a key voter group" by choosing Palin, "a strong evangelical woman..." Link (new window)

Tatsuma: Not exactly something creepy or dangerous

You feel such a kinship with the Jews for Jesus too?

Sorry. I'm gonna side with those who say "creepy and dangerous".

The "big tent" is happy to welcome Jews....as long as they stand over there.....a little further back....no, a little further....behind that black guy, if you don't mind.....just a bit more to the back..... little further.....

The Republican Party has no future. In the last year and especially last week, the Republicans have displayed a level of stupidity that is going to scare most of the party to run away. I thought that they had reached their limit when they started leaning toward the religious right for support. Then along came Sarah Palin and now they are teabagging each other. What's next? I can't wait.

bronyaur1: "McCain achieved a doubling of support among a key voter group" by choosing Palin, "a strong evangelical woman..." Link (new window)

Also from your article:

For a start, fewer voters, including evangelicals, align themselves with the Republican party.

"Evangelical voters have displayed a great deal of dissatisfaction with the current state of things, including the Republican Party," said John Greene, senior fellow at the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life.

etc...

I never said it didn't have a positive impact, just that it was nowhere near the kind of mobilization that got Bush elected.

Tatsuma: The evangelicals love Judaism

oh really? I guess thats why evangelicals hat a catagory 5 freak out when they heard there was a possibility of Leiberman being the VP of McCain.

Tatsuma: How is that creepy? They think that we're wrong and they want us to spend the rest of eternity chilling with them in Paradise, so they think one day we'll realize our "mistake". This is pretty much the flip side of what religious Jews think about them.

Not exactly something creepy or dangerous. Pretty much every religion out there says that eventually everyone will come to recognize that they are right.

I don't know how you can saw it's "philo-semitism" when the whole purpose of their religion is to remove the "semitism" part.

Bill_Wick's_Friend: You feel such a kinship with the Jews for Jesus too?

I've been studying Tanach with one. Our deal is "No one tries to convert the other".

I certainly have a huge problem with their system of beliefs (unlike for non-Jews for Yoshke) or actions (when they are doing missionary work) but I've got no problems with them as individuals, no.

They are fellow Jews.

Wait wait, having Tatsuma = the jewish voice of fark. Is well, farked up.

There is no love by Xian fundamentalists to the jews. Having been raised in the South and seen more than my share of crazy Second Coming people in Israel, their goals are the main actionary.

It makes no sense theologically for the fundy xians to love jews. We are either pitied for not being "saved" or placed on a pillar of context of what was and not in consideration of the ways modern jews are.

DamnYankees: Tatsuma: It's a reverting trend, and the fundies are really fond of Israel and religious Jews. I've experienced it many many times in the past.

Fond of Israel I already grant, and its for farked up reasons.

Religious Jews are a minority of Jews in America. It's far more fair to say that they are simply fans of religious people who aren't Muslim murderous whack-jobs of any faith.

FTFY

What he says
wants to return to party of small government and low taxes

what he lets slip
Wife is pro choice and gay marriage so his is a "mixed marriage"

therefore

/the new face is the old face nothing's changed.

//ONLY a large government can legislate morality
///50 million NOT aborted will need social assistance programs since they will not find that biology and Jeebus cause mommy to love and nurture them

depmode98: oh really? I guess thats why evangelicals hat a catagory 5 freak out when they heard there was a possibility of Leiberman being the VP of McCain.

I think it's more about Lieberman himself, otherwise Cantor wouldn't have the traction he has.

DamnYankees: I don't know how you can saw it's "philo-semitism" when the whole purpose of their religion is to remove the "semitism" part.

They think their guy will eventually do it in the future. A much better deal than "We'll send you to hell today you filthy Jew"