If we are talking socially left of the current repugnantan platform and fiscally conservative -then my ears are perked up.

If we are talking about wearing black and having tattoos then I'm afraid it's more showmanship (show-womanship) and less substance.

Speaking of all show and no substance -I wonder what Palin thinks about this chick's platform.

So who ever said that Democrats don't want the same things she mentions in the vid?

I want govt out of my life as much as possible too, but that's kind of a subjective thing.

I also believe in strong national defense, I just think that we don't need to spend more than every other country in the world combined to have it.

The myth that us hippie libtards want to weaken the military and want govt to have more control over us is just that.

I think what's interesting, are the lengths that some are going to attack the gal. It shows that split, and the real fear that leadership may rise up from the rank and file, and from unexpected sources.

McCain's daughter, unexpected? In the political dynasty sense, hardly that surprising, but her views and articulation are quite different than the usual modes of glacial thought of the current leadership.

She is hardly a new phenomena. There are plenty of folks who want real fiscal restraint, accountability--for both sides of the aisle--and who look to the Constitution, not chapter and verse for guidance to our governance. She is a fresh face on it though, and I welcome her to the fight that's been going on for a while to bring the party back to ideals that it has fallen from.

That is the funny thing. That Megan represents a return to fiscal responsibility, and a return to championing the rights of the citizen. She represents a turning from the radicalism that has infected the GOP, and that gives me a great deal of hope for our party.

Posted by: sngeorgia | Apr 19, 2009 8:16:05 AM

She's sane. She has no chance in the modern Republican Party.

I have nothing to add to that comment.

Tor_Eckman: So who ever said that Democrats don't want the same things she mentions in the vid?

I want govt out of my life as much as possible too, but that's kind of a subjective thing.

I also believe in strong national defense, I just think that we don't need to spend more than every other country in the world combined to have it.

The myth that us hippie libtards want to weaken the military and want govt to have more control over us is just that.

St_Francis_P: Posted by: sngeorgia | Apr 19, 2009 8:16:05 AM

She's sane. She has no chance in the modern Republican Party.

I have nothing to add to that comment.

I think that she may be articulating the future of the party...

honestly, i think if the democrats could find a way to help her out surreptitiously, it would help both sides.
The republicans get someone to lead them thats worthy of respect. The democrats get a worthy opponent to face, one who can keep them in line.
Win/Win.


And another Win for me ifyaknowwhati'msaying

SilentStrider: honestly, i think if the democrats could find a way to help her out surreptitiously, it would help both sides.
The republicans get someone to lead them thats worthy of respect. The democrats get a worthy opponent to face, one who can keep them in line.
Win/Win.


And another Win for me ifyaknowwhati'msaying

I agree completely. It has alarmed me how marginalized the Republicans have made themselves, because without them there is no one to challenge the Democrats.

Good luck lil' lady.

hubiestubert: I think what's interesting, are the lengths that some are going to attack the gal. It shows that split, and the real fear that leadership may rise up from the rank and file, and from unexpected sources.

McCain's daughter, unexpected? In the political dynasty sense, hardly that surprising, but her views and articulation are quite different than the usual modes of glacial thought of the current leadership.

She is hardly a new phenomena. There are plenty of folks who want real fiscal restraint, accountability--for both sides of the aisle--and who look to the Constitution, not chapter and verse for guidance to our governance. She is a fresh face on it though, and I welcome her to the fight that's been going on for a while to bring the party back to ideals that it has fallen from.

That is the funny thing. That Megan represents a return to fiscal responsibility, and a return to championing the rights of the citizen. She represents a turning from the radicalism that has infected the GOP, and that gives me a great deal of hope for our party.

Hear hear!

Because People in power are Stupid: Speaking of all show and no substance -I wonder what Palin thinks about this chick's platform. I don't know what Palin thinks, but I think I like that chick's platform.

/I'd vote for that
//Giggidy.

part of me would like to unf her, but...then there's part of me that just sees the ice queen's face on a younger, slightly plumper body.

i just don't want to end up killing dalmations, is the general gist here.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

She will learn fairly soon, within 5 - 10 years, that all her ideals are more closely aligned with Democrats or some other non-Republican party. It is inevitable that the Republicans are going to become the American Taliban, advocating explicit Christian fundamentalism being enforced by the government.

She will learn this when she proposes a platform, and a party elder will welcome her with the phrase "That's wonderful darling, but where are you going to find a man to run on those issues?". Not to mention when she finds out that she will be ostracized should she publicly acknowledge her adopted sister.

Sorry, but there are no rational people in the Republican party. There haven't been for 20 years, at least.

Stephanopoulos: Will her ideas get any traction? Or one-night wonder?

Gee, now that you suggest it, I can't help but think she's a flash in the pan that will fail to get traction.

That's some good journalism there, Lou.

Ugh. I followed Meghan's blog through the primaries and up until the election. When she could have spoken up on some (any, even) issue, all she ever had were a few pictures of her at speeches with Dad and Mom with a few sentences of no political substance. I suspect that now someone is telling her what she thinks and helping her to write.

I'd trade her to the (D)'s for a player to be named later.

Does she love Jews?

Let's not get carried away with the adulation. She's pretty hot and I would hit it like the fist of an angry god and all, but she's also woefully uninformed (new window). Being as young and impressionable as she is, her days of sanity are numbered - very few things in the world are as corrupting as political exposure.

Lost Thought 00: "That's wonderful darling, but where are you going to find a man to run on those issues?".

Yep, no women in Republican politics; evil sexist pigs. Wait...what?

fact: more young Republicans support same sex marriage than old Democrats. that number's sure to keep going up and those old ones will go away.

the future is coming whether you like it or not.

do you still want to be on the wrong side of this like you were with civil rights? (which this is btw)

it doesn't have to be that way.

you don't have to keep coddling the wingnuts

didn't she portray Spears in that new Eminem vid? (new window)

whyarefartslumpy: Lost Thought 00: "That's wonderful darling, but where are you going to find a man to run on those issues?".

Yep, no women in Republican politics; evil sexist pigs. Wait...what?

I can count the ones given serious opportunities to run on one hand.

I admire her pluck and other ... assets but trying to pick up the pieces of the GOP is like taking over for the old guy who used to crap in the town's well. Some vacancies shouldn't be filled.

I
I didn't really see any smart and savvy in there, did she say anything interesting in the video?

As a commie pinko leftist, I welcome her voice from the right. IF the GOP can focus their message away from screeching fundie bigotry and steer towards a sound economic plan, they may rise from their current level of irrelevance.

At least she shows that there is some depth in the Republican pool. But I can't help but think that if her dad had a (D) after his name, she'd be more comfortable. But that's me.

Lost Thought 00: whyarefartslumpy: Lost Thought 00: "That's wonderful darling, but where are you going to find a man to run on those issues?".

Yep, no women in Republican politics; evil sexist pigs. Wait...what?

I can count the ones given serious opportunities to run on one hand.

And there is proportionately more in the Democrac party? I'm just trying to understand where you are going with this.

Toxic Asshat: Let's not get carried away with the adulation. She's pretty hot and I would hit it like the fist of an angry god and all, but she's also woefully uninformed (new window). Being as young and impressionable as she is, her days of sanity are numbered - very few things in the world are as corrupting as political exposure.

Eh. I give her credit for not commenting on something she doesn't understand. I wish real politicians did this.

I'll pass.

I am concerned about the environment - Democrat!
I love to wear black. -Johnny Cash?
I think government is best when it stays out of people's lives and business as much as possible. -Libertarian
I love punk rock. -ok...?
I believe in a strong national defense. -Republican
I have a tattoo. -Hippee?
I believe government should always be efficient and accountable. -Everyone should, I hope!
I have lots of gay friends.
-So? Lots of republicans claim they have gay friends.
And yes, I am a Republican


See, Republicans USED to be about most of these things but their journey to the far-right, most of them have disappeared.

Even though I still wouldn't vote for them, it'd be a much better place if the republicans went back to the 60s and 70s.

But it won't happen. At least anytime soon.

Gay marriage is a matter of time. The problem is thats a major motivating issue to a large part of the Republican base.

But... John McCain's daughter is being promoted by the media and actually has no real following of her own

karasoth: Gay marriage is a matter of time. The problem is thats a major motivating issue to a large part of the Republican base.

But... John McCain's daughter is being promoted by the media and actually has no real following of her own

In that she isn't running for anything, and is making commentary and is part of that media, you are somewhat correct...

Michelle Bachmann Is the FUTURE

I like her. The fundies will eat her alive, though.

bubbaprog: I'll pass.

Oh hell no. I'd poke that and like it.


However, her old man just gave his campaign cash to Rudy goddamn Giuliani.

She's doesn't possess that remarkable quality most Republicans acquire of being an insipid asshole you want to hate the moment they open their mouths -- however, in order to be any kind of positive face for Republicans, she needs to go against the grain and actually take some policy stances that make sense and not just wax about her love life and the brand images of Democrats and Republicans.

Lost Thought 00: HAHAHAHAHAHA

She will learn fairly soon, within 5 - 10 years, that all her ideals are more closely aligned with Democrats or some other non-Republican party. It is inevitable that the Republicans are going to become the American Taliban, advocating explicit Christian fundamentalism being enforced by the government.

She will learn this when she proposes a platform, and a party elder will welcome her with the phrase "That's wonderful darling, but where are you going to find a man to run on those issues?". Not to mention when she finds out that she will be ostracized should she publicly acknowledge her adopted sister.

Sorry, but there are no rational people in the Republican party. There haven't been for 20 years, at least.


Pretty much This.

The GOP would have to cull the herd of all the fundie nutjobs before any progress could be made in getting more in-line with their stated purpose (social liberalism, fiscal conservatism). Sadly, if they flush the fundies down the toilet, there wouldn't be enough people left to fill an Elks lodge, let alone run a national party.

We need a new party, and the GOP needs to die.

/The GOP is just a mirror of the Constitution Party
//Eeeeevil bigots
///So we're stuck with the Democrats

NewEnglandGangster: Michelle Bachmann Is the FUTURE

Pundit on FOX news after she loses her seat for being insane?

Probably.

She's gorgeous... and she appeals to the younger Conservatives like myself who really don't care about all that religious stuff in politics (i.e. abortion and gay marriage).

There's a new McCain in town - smarter, savvier, more charismatic ... oh, and she's pretty hot, too and she's AGAINST all that the GOP is right now.

/in other words, she's a democrat
//good luck selling that to the GOP dumb-o-graphic

siva: I
I didn't really see any smart and savvy in there, did she say anything interesting in the video?

She said she has lots of gay friends, likes punk rock, and has a tattoo! Or in other words, she is a completely generic, unremarkable mid-twentysomething chick. Bonus "typical" points for still believing everything her daddy tells her.

/some married farkers might know where I went with that.

whyarefartslumpy: And there is proportionately more in the Democrac party? I'm just trying to understand where you are going with this.

There are proportionately more in the Democrat party for a reason. If the parties were gender neutral, the proportion of women within them would be roughly equal. Unless you think the mere fact that someone is a woman makes them inherently more liberal. To me, this is very solid evidence of a gender bias within the structure of the parties.

Kuroshin:

We need a new party, and the GOP needs to die.

I was disappointed it didn't die after Nixon's shenanigans.

Because People in power are Stupid:

If we are talking about wearing black and having tattoos then I'm afraid it's more showmanship (show-womanship) and less substance.



I don't see how that even proves anything. It's a stereotype that far-right Republicans don't do that kind of thing. One of the farthest-right Republicans I know; a guy who even named on of his kids after Reagan; has both ears pierced, listens to old school punk and Eastern European rock, and is disturbed by the anti-intellectualism in the Republican party. And yet that doesn't change the fact that he's far to the right wing.

The externals really don't matter, I want to know the substance of someone's ideas.

FuturePastNow: I like her. The fundies will eat her alive, though.

I'd start in her crotchal region.

I would hit that daily, nightly and ever so rightly.

/nothing wrong with curves

She clearly isn't a policy expert, but if her attitudes on social issues spread in to Republican party, it will be good news for all sides. But I have my doubts that she'll have any role in the party as long as the current leadership (and the next few generations of R leaders) are put out to pasture...

jon benets head on chief bromden.

Did Obama just steal somebodies wallet?

That's Racist.

godofusa.com: She's gorgeous... and she appeals to the younger Conservatives like myself who really don't care about all that religious issue stuff in politics (i.e. abortion and gay marriage).

/no thanks necessary

bacccc: There's a new McCain in town - smarter, savvier, more charismatic ... oh, and she's pretty hot, too and she's AGAINST all that the GOP is right now.

/in other words, she's a democrat
//good luck selling that to the GOP dumb-o-graphic

Not so much. She just happens to be for the GOP has traditionally stood for.

Clinton did a wonderful job of taking the center from the GOP. His campaign slid into ground that more moderate elements of the GOP had stood on, and he undercut their positions by making them the Democrat's. In order to appear to be different, folks took harder and harder stances to the right, and that led to cascade of support from the radical right, who saw it as their opportunity to really get some power. And it was rewarded at the polls as that radical element turned out in droves.

But, simply because the radical right has had success, that doesn't mean that all Republicans support their very much radical agenda--even if they call it "Conservative" as branding.

But can she crash a plane?

Just wanted to second the notion that I would indeed bang that like a screen door in a hurricane. Even the larger picture at the rally.

/all
//the
///time