funny when it was the peace activists you never said a word Mr. Steele. matter of fact you and the rest of the party scoffed and called them paranoid. but now it's all so different isn't it?

Yep, we should get rid of that whole DHS. Who's the commie, liberal who set that department up?

He is such an idiot. How did he get to be the chair? I'm a raging liberal and could probably steer the Republicans better than this guy.

Ahhh_Ennui: He is such an idiot. How did he get to be the chair?

Because he's black.

Seriously.

This is the same group of people who tried to pander to Hillary's supporters by putting a woman (Palin) on the ticket, figuring that since they voted for Hillary because she's a woman, they'd vote for ANY woman (even if their woman is the political polar opposite of Hillary).

Now, their train of thought is that the black Democratic voters voted for Obama because he's black (and for no other reason); ergo, if they have their own black guy, they can Steele (bad pun,I know) these votes away from the Democrats because "those people" will vote for any black guy just because he's black.

/hey, it worked for Alan Keyes when he ran for the US Senate against Obama... oh, wait.
//It's why Keyes got such a huge portion of the black vote in the 2008 Presidential election... oh, wait.

Reporters?

That's an impressive persecution complex.

GAT_00: That's an impressive persecution complex.

And it only took, what, three months to work up into a foaming-at-the-mouth frenzy?

Who says Republican run operations aren't efficient and timely ...

King Something: This is the same group of people who tried to pander to Hillary's supporters by putting a woman (Palin) on the ticket, figuring that since they voted for Hillary because she's a woman, they'd vote for ANY woman (even if their woman is the political polar opposite of Hillary).

Now, their train of thought is that the black Democratic voters voted for Obama because he's black (and for no other reason); ergo, if they have their own black guy, they can Steele (bad pun,I know) these votes away from the Democrats because "those people" will vote for any black guy just because he's black.

Wow. So the Republican party will only be worthy of your support if it sticks to white guys, huh?

Fascinating stuff. Tell me more.

Previous Republican adminstrations were on record as having closely watched anti-war groups in opposition to the Iraq situation so it stands to reason that government agencies would continue to monitor other anti-government groups under the Obama administration.

Sorry guys, but you didn't say much when the fed was watching YOUR enemies. now that they're watching YOU folks, maybe you'll appreciate why the rest of us expressed concern way back then.

mkfreeberg: Wow. So the Republican party will only be worthy of your support if it sticks to white guys, huh?

You're not a very good troll.

hillbillypharmacist: You're not a very good troll.

Negative reinforcement isn't going to help the poor boy. I think you need to be more encouraging!

mkfreeberg: Wow. So the Republican party will only be worthy of your support if it sticks to white guys, huh?



I've got nothing against the idea of Republicans putting women or blacks on the ticket. My problem is them expecting their black or female candidates to win by virtue of them being black or female. If they run a competent politician, they'd get my support, if not my vote.

Olympia Snowe, for example, is not the kind of woman who would say "I'm a woman, vote for me!" or "I'm black, vote for me!" in her campaigns (the former being a part of the reason, but not the only reason, why Hillary lost the primaries; the latter, a tactic that Obama did NOT use during his campaign). She might stand a chance against Obama in 2012. Sadly, she isn't far enough to the right to stand a chance of being on the Republican ticket - there's too much support for the Palins and the Jindals and the Perrys of the party for the Snowes or the Crists to stand a chance, defection to third parties notwithstanding.

Weaver95: Previous Republican adminstrations were on record as having closely watched anti-war groups in opposition to the Iraq situation so it stands to reason that government agencies would continue to monitor other anti-government groups under the Obama administration.

Sorry guys, but you didn't say much when the fed was watching YOUR enemies. now that they're watching YOU folks, maybe you'll appreciate why the rest of us expressed concern way back then.

Well, that and this particular DHS report was ordered by President Bush. It was just now was finalized.

There was also a section in the report on left-wing extremists. Funny, you don't see mainstream enivornmentalist Democrats biatching about DHS considering eco-terrorists like the Earth & Animal Liberation Fronts a threat.

Sgt Otter: There was also a section in the report on left-wing extremists. Funny, you don't see mainstream enivornmentalist Democrats biatching about DHS considering eco-terrorists like the Earth & Animal Liberation Fronts a threat.

The eco-nuts haven't killed anyone yet (they just cause a lot of expensive property damage). The pro-life crowd, ironically enough, actually *has* killed a few people in the past. so it's understandable that federal law enforcement might want to keep an eye on them. so if the argument is that the pro-life crowd is higher on the priority watch list than the eco-nuts, then I concede the point as being entirely valid. The pro-lifers are just going to have to deal with that fact life life.

Did you mean: nationals

Goddammit, wrong thread.

I suck so hard.

CtrlAltDelete: Goddammit, wrong thread.

I suck so hard.

Coincidentally, I'd opened only these two threads in separate tabs just now. Your comment made perfect sense because I assumed I was reading the other thread.

Forty-Two: Coincidentally, I'd opened only these two threads in separate tabs just now. Your comment made perfect sense because I assumed I was reading the other thread.

Well that makes me feel a little better, I suppose.

it's all those liberal homos in the bowels of the DHS ^{(^)} according to Pat Robertson.

but then you have people like Virgil Goode (R)aving lunatic
and friends saying stuff like this

CAYLOR: The next American revolution begins here and begins tonight. [...] Yesterday a friend of mine gave me a report from Homeland Security telling the FBI that people who are unhappy with government spending, the tax code, the general dismantling of our country, with supporting illegal immigrants with tens of millions of tax dollars, that you may be dangerous people. [audience cheers]

AUDIENCE MEMBER: We might be!

CAYLOR: I pray to God you are.



The new American Revolution brought to you by Fox News,Big Oil,Big Pharma and an army of idiots

Hobodeluxe: The new American Revolution brought to you by Fox News,Big Oil,Big Pharma and an army of idiots

the bad news is that they're a bunch of well armed stupid people. The good news is that they're stupid.

i'm just hoping that the right wing idiots cancel out the left wing idiots and we end up with a much more stable government and more tolerant society.

CtrlAltDelete: Goddammit, wrong thread.

I suck so hard.



Hellooooooooo...

ecmoRandomNumbers: Hellooooooooo...

Oh, ecmoRandomNumbers... I'd suck you the hardest.

Obama's DHS report says to watch for returning military veterans because they're disgruntled and could go terrorist.

Saying that returning military veterans are a danger to homeland security is like spitting on troops as they return home from combat. Leftists have a history doing things like that. At least it's not real spit this time.

SkinnyHead: Obama's DHS report says to watch for returning military veterans because they're disgruntled and could go terrorist.

Saying that returning military veterans are a danger to homeland security is like spitting on troops as they return home from combat. Leftists have a history doing things like that. At least it's not real spit this time.

And of course it never was, just more bullshiat from cowards on the right who never served like you.

and why do the freepers dislike the guy? He is about as crazy as the rest of them in that party.

The diff'rence, so far, that I cun see between the libs claimin' that the gubment is watchin' d'em under Bush and real 'Mericuns claimin' the gubment is watchin' d'em is that Bush was really doin' it. Obama has not dun nothin' to cuz suspicion.

SeismicJizzer: and why do the freepers dislike the guy? He is about as crazy as the rest of them in that party.

He questioned the wisdom of St. Limbaugh.

Once again the republicans start whining. First you promise a smaller less intrusive government but give us John Ashcroft and DHS. And now you're whining that the monster you created is coming after you? Give me a farking break.

What happened to the self reliant Republicans? All I'm seeing are a bunch of whining, childish Bible thumpers.

SkinnyHead: Obama's DHS report says to watch for returning military veterans because they're disgruntled and could go terrorist.

Saying that returning military veterans are a danger to homeland security is like spitting on troops as they return home from combat. Leftists have a history doing things like that. At least it's not real spit this time.

heh I wonder if you will be still frothing at the mouth when you find out Bush actually had the same report about right wing douchbaggery, but like I have said before, it isn't rocket science to see white folks prancing around in pajamas looking for a target in the forests. It happened during the Clinton administration so why the surprise that militias would creep up under Obama?

cmb53208: Once again the republicans start whining. First you promise a smaller less intrusive government but give us John Ashcroft and DHS. And now you're whining that the monster you created is coming after you? Give me a farking break.

What happened to the self reliant Republicans? All I'm seeing are a bunch of whining, childish Bible thumpers.

self reliance is for poor and/or minorities

no shiat you farking douchebag. your party was the one who brought DHS into existence and started spying on all sorts of bullshiat. gawddamn the freaking lima beans fanatic club is spied on now because of you guys. jeebus.

So, right wingers are whining about how badly they are being persecuted again? It must be a day in ends in "y".

SkinnyHead: Obama's DHS report says to watch for returning military veterans because they're disgruntled and could go terrorist.


Wrong.

"(U//FOUO) DHS/I&A assesses that rightwing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans in order to exploit their skills and knowledge derived from military training and combat. These skills and knowledge have the potential to boost the capabilities of extremists-including lone wolves or small terrorist cells-to carry out violence. The willingness of a small percentage of military personnel to join extremist groups during the 1990s because they were disgruntled, disillusioned, or suffering from the psychological effects of war is being replicated today."

Either you can't tell the difference between these, or you're a liar. I'm guessing a little bit of both.

Weaver95: i'm just hoping that the right wing idiots cancel out the left wing idiots and we end up with a much more stable government and more tolerant society.

As long as we continue to allow the idiots on both sides the most air time as possible this will never happen. This will only happen when the news networks stop running a story everytime one of this idiots do something. Don't count on it happening though. People like train wrecks and its all about the $$$$

BlippityBleep: no shiat you farking douchebag. your party was the one who brought DHS into existence and started spying on all sorts of bullshiat. gawddamn the freaking lima beans fanatic club is spied on now because of you guys. jeebus.

Just imagine what it would have been like if more than a handful of democrats voted against it. We might not even have a DHS.

Ahhh_Ennui: He is such an idiot. How did he get to be the chair? I'm a raging liberal and could probably steer the Republicans better than this guy.

The Republicans are no longer trying to win elections. They're trying to start all out civil war. Listen to them talk. If more and more people become unemployed and watch Fox News all day, we're going to have a serious problem on our hands. If you have Republican friends you know what I'm talking about. They're getting ready to explode. They think violence against the state is OK right now since the state is "oppressive." We're at a scary point right now. I'd say we're at Yugoslavia circa 1988.

Weaver95: Previous Republican adminstrations were on record as having closely watched anti-war groups in opposition to the Iraq situation so it stands to reason that government agencies would continue to monitor other anti-government groups under the Obama administration.

Sorry guys, but you didn't say much when the fed was watching YOUR enemies. now that they're watching YOU folks, maybe you'll appreciate why the rest of us expressed concern way back then.

Plus, there is that issue of Timothy McVeigh actually going off. Perhaps, we can all agree, there is an element of risk for society from the extreme right wing.

Ahhh_Ennui: He is such an idiot. How did he get to be the chair? I'm a raging liberal and could probably steer the Republicans better than this guy.

Cuz he convinced the Republicans that he could be hip and get in more black voters LOL

milk_plus: So, right wingers are whining about how badly they are being persecuted again? It must be a day in ends in "y".

I'm sure it's all completely baseless.

RevMercutio: SkinnyHead: Obama's DHS report says to watch for returning military veterans because they're disgruntled and could go terrorist.


Wrong.

"(U//FOUO) DHS/I&A assesses that rightwing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans in order to exploit their skills and knowledge derived from military training and combat. These skills and knowledge have the potential to boost the capabilities of extremists-including lone wolves or small terrorist cells-to carry out violence. The willingness of a small percentage of military personnel to join extremist groups during the 1990s because they were disgruntled, disillusioned, or suffering from the psychological effects of war is being replicated today."

Either you can't tell the difference between these, or you're a liar. I'm guessing a little bit of both.

He has a GED in Law. He knows what he's talking about.

Voices all across the intarweb were trying to warn the country about the dangers of the Patriot Act....some of them took the stance of "But what if Hillary becomes president"..

Some voices didn't care who would be in control....they just saw the PA as wrong.


I've seen them take photographs and write down license plate numbers at gunshows for years, even before 9/11.

Etchy333: Yep, we should get rid of that whole DHS. Who's the commie, liberal who set that department up?

Yeah. I thought the ideas was place all the security apparatus under one roof, but the thing just grew and grew and grew and... into a many-headed hydra beast.

GaryPDX: milk_plus: So, right wingers are whining about how badly they are being persecuted again? It must be a day in ends in "y".

I'm sure it's all completely baseless.

No, I'm sure we mean every word of it.

SkinnyHead: Obama's DHS report says to watch for returning military veterans because they're disgruntled and could go terrorist.

Saying that returning military veterans are a danger to homeland security is like spitting on troops as they return home from combat. Leftists have a history doing things like that. At least it's not real spit this time.


Good. Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you.

GaryPDX: milk_plus: So, right wingers are whining about how badly they are being persecuted again? It must be a day in ends in "y".

I'm sure it's all completely baseless.

Yeah, it pretty much is. The report is discussing extremists, not all Republicans. If you're not an extremist, then this isn't about you.

Notice how Democrats getting riled up over the sections discussing left-wing extremists?

Dude. Chill.

*Democrats AREN'T getting riled up.

Preview is gooooood. Need to do it more often.

SkinnyHead: spitting on troops as they return home from combat. Leftists have a history doing things like that.

[CITATION NEEDED]

Dan the Schman: He has a GED in Law. He knows what he's talking about.

Oh. wait. Never mind...

There should be a confirmation button that pops up whenever congress votes in favor of any security or surveillance law. "Do you understand that this may be used against your party should it lose power? Are you really sure you understand?"