Finally. Someone said it. Thank you, subby.

Sometimes adding another person adds spark to the creative process.

Critics only create criticism.

EviLincoln: Sometimes adding another person adds spark to the creative process.

Critics only create criticism.

As a musician myself, THIS.

Not everyone can be a virtuoso island all of the time.

Just got a call from Sweetie.

Apparently I/we are going to see Bob Dylan at some Dylan-Fest thingamabob in June/July (I blanked out after Bob).

I wish it was Donovan but sometimes you take the cards that life has dealt you.

Oh noes! Artists should never collaborate with one another! Blasphemy!

Also,

brap: Just got a call from Sweetie.

Apparently I/we are going to see Bob Dylan at some Dylan-Fest thingamabob in June/July (I blanked out after Bob).

I wish it was Donovan but sometimes you take the cards that life has dealt you.

Who's Donovan?

ehhh! nehhhh!

/Dylan sucks

JesterJames:
Who's Donovan?

Was that from that documentary where Bob was condescending to my kind Andeluvian hero?

JUDAS!

*facepalms*

From the article itself:

This isn't the first time that Dylan has worked with Hunter - the two collaborated on two songs for the 1988 album Down In the Groove.

Nevertheless, it's 1976's Desire that offers the nearest precedent to Hunter's role on Together Through Life. Bob Dylan co-wrote most of that record, including classics like Isis and Hurricane, with Jacques Levy.

This isn't as "heretical" as one might think due to the headline.

Wow and almost 70a man who has written more songs that subby could ever hope to write greenlit headlines, had some poet help him with some lyrics on his almost 40th studio album. Wow, he sounds like a real douchebag. And by 'he' I mean subby

Those who can't, teach criticize.

flaminglip: brap: JesterJames:
Who's Donovan?

Was that from that documentary where Bob was condescending to my kind Andeluvian hero?

JUDAS!

If you're talking about that time Donovan and his gang were acting up in the hotel, then hell with that. He deserved it. Actually, he deserved it just for being Donovan.

Also, Donovan looks like shiat lately. Have you seen that poor bastard? Dylan looks and sounds way better still.

Anyway, I wasn't around at that time but my in laws are serious hippies and I have to listen to this crap all the time.

I'm sorry, I'm not hearing you! LA-LA-LA-LA HURDY GURDY MAN! LA-LA-LA-LA LA HURDY GURDY MAN!

flaminglip: brap: flaminglip: brap: JesterJames:
Nailed it, didn't I?

Thought so..

Um, sure? You're working the rope at Club Burnage and I was just thrown out on my arse?

Before I read that post Donovan used to take me to my happy three year-old place where I'd dance around to Sunshine Superman in my Underdog outfit. But all the sudden my eyes were opened. It's like my whole life really didn't happen and was replaced with a vacant sucking vortex of Dylan fandom.

It's 2009. We should be amazed this guy is still breathing.

m0llusk: It's 2009. We should be amazed this guy is still breathing.

It's NOT s much BREATHIN' as A HARrrrrrrMON-I-CA in SWAYYYYYYYYY. TODAYYYYY!.

- Give me a break, Dylan isn't easy to replicate in type.

Dylan's concerts are definitely the experience. I saw him perform at Kent State in 2002(ish). It took everyone ten minutes before we realized he was singing "Blowing in the Wind."

It's one of those things you really have to do before you die, though. He looks like an evil villain from some Western now.

I still need to see Lou Reed, and then I'm set.

GonzoNihilist 2009-04-17 09:57:06 PM
Wow and almost 70a man who has written more songs that subby could ever hope to write greenlit headlines, had some poet help him with some lyrics on his almost 40th studio album. Wow, he sounds like a real douchebag. And by 'he' I mean subby

This.

Subby gets his 'Fark Troll: 1st Class' for this one.

1) Dylan didn't 'hired' Rob Hunter, they collaberated.

2) FWIW Hunter co-wrote almost every song the Grateful Dead
recorded (but then I bet subby think's they suck, too)

3) I seriously doubt that subby has any influence in his own
household, let alone in the outside world, whereas Dylan
is one of last and this century's great
writers/poets/musicians/artists and as influenced the world.

4) Subby? Go listen to Metallica and Mars Volta and leave the good
stuff alone; You're in way over you head making asinine
comments about things beyond your understanding/pay grade.

Back around 1987, when he was touring with them, Dylan asked to become a member of the Grateful Dead.

CtrlAltDelete: Dylan's concerts are definitely the experience. I saw him perform at Kent State in 2002(ish). It took everyone ten minutes before we realized he was singing "Blowing in the Wind."

It's one of those things you really have to do before you die, though. He looks like an evil villain from some Western now.

I still need to see Lou Reed, and then I'm set.

I saw him 5 times between '98 and '02. They were all great experiences except for the last one. Maybe he was just having a bad night, but I've heard a fair amount of bootlegs since, and unless he's playing in my town and tickets are reasonable, I doubt I'll see him again. Also saw Rolling Thunder on Thanksgiving night '75. Pretty hard to top that.

To be fair, the headline is almost exactly what went through my head when I found out about Desire. Still bought and loved it, though.

Who is Bob Dylan? Should I study ancient civiliations to know this?

Dylan had a co-writer on Desire, which is one of his best albums.

I was listening to the "Rolling Thunder Review" bootleg when i read the headline. I'm a huge dylan fan, but "clumsy racket" made me laugh.

idsfa: ehhh! nehhhh!

/Dylan sucks

Wow, how much effort did you put into that, you feckless cock-holster?

"Desire" - the album where Dylan cowrote lyrics with Jacques Levy - is among my favorites. Amazing words, narratives and rhyme schemes. I have no problem with Bob collaborating with another writer to kindle the creative process. After all, the guy's written, like, 10,000 songs on his own. Subby makes it sounds like he can't or won't write anymore. I really don't think that's the case.

Subby wins!

To me, the only good Dylan song is one performed by someone other than Dylan.

brap: Just got a call from Sweetie.

Apparently I/we are going to see Bob Dylan at some Dylan-Fest thingamabob in June/July (I blanked out after Bob).

I wish it was Donovan but sometimes you take the cards that life has dealt you.

Respect Dylan, but ill take Donovan over Dylan any day of the week

mfaby: GonzoNihilist
Subby gets his 'Fark Troll: 1st Class' for this one.


2) FWIW Hunter co-wrote almost every song the Grateful Dead
recorded (but then I bet subby think's they suck, too)


Hunter wrote the lyrics to most of Jerry's songs, John Perry Barlow wrote the lyrics to most of Bob Weir's songs.

I think Hunter/Dylan together is an awesome idea.

Marla Singer's Laundry: Wow, how much effort did you put into that, you feckless cock-holster?


As much as Dylan deserves, which is to say none, you pointless cum dumpster.

mfaby: GonzoNihilist 2009-04-17 09:57:06 PM
Wow and almost 70a man who has written more songs that subby could ever hope to write greenlit headlines, had some poet help him with some lyrics on his almost 40th studio album. Wow, he sounds like a real douchebag. And by 'he' I mean subby

This.

Subby gets his 'Fark Troll: 1st Class' for this one.

1) Dylan didn't 'hired' Rob Hunter, they collaberated.

2) FWIW Hunter co-wrote almost every song the Grateful Dead
recorded (but then I bet subby think's they suck, too)

3) I seriously doubt that subby has any influence in his own
household, let alone in the outside world, whereas Dylan
is one of last and this century's great
writers/poets/musicians/artists and as influenced the world.

4) Subby? Go listen to Metallica and Mars Volta and leave the good
stuff alone; You're in way over you head making asinine
comments about things beyond your understanding/pay grade.

5) It isn't the first time Dylan has stopped, collaborated, and listened to a poet. Didn't he work with Ginsberg quite a bit?

HelmetTesterTJ: 5) It isn't the first time Dylan has stopped, collaborated, and listened to a poet. Didn't he work with Ginsberg quite a bit?

No. At least not anything that was released that I am aware of;
I've been a fan for longer (way longer than I care to remember) and have read numerous books on him/about him/by him and every interview I've see for a score and half years+ and have never seen anything said/written/mentioned about them collaborating on some that's been released.

Just finishned Greil Marcus' book on the recording of 'Like a Rolling Stone' and Marcus does say that Bob - being friends with Ginsburg was most like influenced during his 65-66-67 period by
'Howl'.

FWIW I can recommend the book only if
1) You take much of what Marcus says about the times with a grain of salt
2) You're a die-hard Bob fan.

RE: #1 here is what I mean: I saw Mary what's-her-name from Peter Paul and Mary give a talk in which she said Bob, the Stones and P,P&M where the 'most influencial groups of the Sixties'
THAT kind of 'grain of salt'. BTW Bob said he was asked by Al Grossman, his manager, to be in PP&M when it was being formed by Grossman

They were the Sixties equivalent to N'Sync or the Backstreet Boys.

mfaby: HelmetTesterTJ: 5) It isn't the first time Dylan has stopped, collaborated, and listened to a poet. Didn't he work with Ginsberg quite a bit?

No. At least not anything that was released that I am aware of;
I've been a fan for longer (way longer than I care to remember) and have read numerous books on him/about him/by him and every interview I've see for a score and half years+ and have never seen anything said/written/mentioned about them collaborating on some that's been released.

Just finishned Greil Marcus' book on the recording of 'Like a Rolling Stone' and Marcus does say that Bob - being friends with Ginsburg was most like influenced during his 65-66-67 period by
'Howl'.

FWIW I can recommend the book only if
1) You take much of what Marcus says about the times with a grain of salt
2) You're a die-hard Bob fan.

RE: #1 here is what I mean: I saw Mary what's-her-name from Peter Paul and Mary give a talk in which she said Bob, the Stones and P,P&M where the 'most influencial groups of the Sixties'
THAT kind of 'grain of salt'. BTW Bob said he was asked by Al Grossman, his manager, to be in PP&M when it was being formed by Grossman

They were the Sixties equivalent to N'Sync or the Backstreet Boys.

Thanks for the tip. I'll definitely pick the book up. I must have misread somewhere. I guess it was bound to happen eventually.

HelmetTesterTJ: 5) It isn't the first time Dylan has stopped, collaborated, and listened to a poet. Didn't he work with Ginsberg quite a bit?

Ginsberg was a friend and around at various points. He's in the background of the "Subterranean Homesick Blues" video, and he was also on part of the Rolling Thunder tour as one of the poets.

I don't know how much they collaborated, though. I know I have a song Ginsberg wrote that Dylan sang backup on, and they're both on Leonard Cohen's "DOn't Go Home with Your Hard-on" as backup singers!

As mentioned, Dylan wrote Desire with Jacques Levy, and worked with Robert Hunter (who's a wildly underrated lyricists, IMO, due to his association with certain jam band) in the 1980's.

He also cowrote "Brownsville Girl" with playwright Sam Shepard and collaborated with the other Wilburys on two albums.

mfaby: HelmetTesterTJ: 5) It isn't the first time Dylan has stopped, collaborated, and listened to a poet. Didn't he work with Ginsberg quite a bit?

No. At least not anything that was released that I am aware of;
I've been a fan for longer (way longer than I care to remember) and have read numerous books on him/about him/by him and every interview I've see for a score and half years+ and have never seen anything said/written/mentioned about them collaborating on some that's been released.

Just finishned Greil Marcus' book on the recording of 'Like a Rolling Stone' and Marcus does say that Bob - being friends with Ginsburg was most like influenced during his 65-66-67 period by
'Howl'.

FWIW I can recommend the book only if
1) You take much of what Marcus says about the times with a grain of salt
2) You're a die-hard Bob fan.

RE: #1 here is what I mean: I saw Mary what's-her-name from Peter Paul and Mary give a talk in which she said Bob, the Stones and P,P&M where the 'most influencial groups of the Sixties'
THAT kind of 'grain of salt'. BTW Bob said he was asked by Al Grossman, his manager, to be in PP&M when it was being formed by Grossman

They were the Sixties equivalent to N'Sync or the Backstreet Boys.

Never heard PP & M described that way.

Bob Dylan decides to experiment in a new direction and people are surprised by this? Must not have been paying attention for the last 50 years.

/among the greatest artists in music history
//not me, Dylan