Link farked from jump street.

Saw MBV last year. Loudest show I've ever been to. Would risk permanent damage to see them again.

/don't find them the least bit depressing

Link not farked for me.

More members and folk-blues influence? Could be okay, but don't call it MBV. He'll never top Loveless.

/prove me wrong, kevin. prove me wrong

And for anyone else who can't see it-

Kevin Shields has revealed that fans can expect an expanded version of My Bloody Valentine to appear for their live shows in the second half of 2009.

Speaking about his plans for the bands future, Shields said that MBV could add members this year and were looking at a change in direction sonically.

He told the Dallas Observer: "After the end of August, we'll have a radical change, Line-up, we might expand a bit.

"In that respect, we'll add another member to the group, just to do more stuff. And sound-wise, absolutely. You know, it'll be...taking a different approach."

Shields revealed that he had been largely influenced by a tape of folk-blues music he had be given by Bobby Gillespie.

He said: "That style of folk-blues music, I would say is weirdly enough like 'Loveless'," he said of the tapes.

"That style of songwriting, where you have the verses and then the instrumental breaks. I suppose, if I were to say there's any kind of music in the world that feels really natural to me, it's that kind. Not just folk-blues, but folk music in general."

"The great thing is playing together, we're just doing it the way we were planning to do it at the time, except with the right equipment and the right sounds."

/not subby

I had that one blurry guitar closeup album. Everytime I used to listen to them I would think, I really would like a stab and farking around with their equipment. I don't know what amps and guitars they use but they sounded like some fun toys.

I have tix for Wednesday.

/stoked

brap I don't know what amps and guitars they use...

http://guitargeek.com/rigview/77/

and

http://guitargeek.com/rigview/74/

sorry for my lack of html.

Yeah!

(prices said equipment)

Boo!

Depressing? Nah.

Subby, you fail because you're confusing them with My Chemical Romance. Meme or not, it's retarded.

Depressing? I'm amazed you can make anything of the lyrics out at all actually.

/Hopes the new material will be awesome
//Guarded optimism.

depressing?

FAIL.

Hey, have we called out subby for being off his rocker calling MBV depressing?

We have? Good, carry on then.

/loves Loveless so much
//best show of 2008 by far.

going to see them in a week and a half. Some people are thinking that the expanded line-up may have to do with someone doing some programming for the d'n'b period they were supposedly in in the mid-90s.


or just a fiddler for Cowboy Song. Whatever.

Depressing? Many of the lyrics I could make out were kinda dirty, but they're not depressing.

bigbadideasinaction: /Hopes the new material will be awesome
//Guarded optimism.

I'll believe there's new material when it exists, and not a moment before.

jerkobson: /loves Loveless so much


Loveless is epic, but my favorite is the You Made Me Realize EP.


/hot like she is.

I see "loveless" in stores a lot [often for cheap] and i see it's gotten very good reviews... [at the time and in retrospect]

but is it really that good?
does it sound like a wall of sound should?
or is it just noise-rock?
or is it just crap?
is it the start of indie?
is it better than rap?

Third_Uncle_Eno: I see "loveless" in stores a lot [often for cheap] and i see it's gotten very good reviews... [at the time and in retrospect]

but is it really that good? No.
does it sound like a wall of sound should? More like a chain-link fence of poop.
or is it just noise-rock? Yup.
or is it just crap? There's a difference?
is it the start of indie? Yeah... how about no.
is it better than rap? Nothing like setting the bar low.

Third_Uncle_Eno: I see "loveless" in stores a lot [often for cheap] and i see it's gotten very good reviews... [at the time and in retrospect]

but is it really that good?
does it sound like a wall of sound should?
or is it just noise-rock?
or is it just crap?
is it the start of indie?
is it better than rap?

I'm tempted to bite, but between your login and the way your questions are structured, I'm dubious...

mome23
I'm tempted to bite, but between your login and the way your questions are structured, I'm dubious...

lol what's THAT supposed to mean?!

btw, it was originally going to be just 1 or 2 lines/questions, but then i wrote more and rhymed some ends of them and it became a poem. so........yeah.

Third_Uncle_Eno: I see "loveless" in stores a lot [often for cheap] and i see it's gotten very good reviews... [at the time and in retrospect]

but is it really that good?
does it sound like a wall of sound should?
or is it just noise-rock?
or is it just crap?
is it the start of indie?
is it better than rap?

1. Yup
2. Maybe a wall with some of gooey liquid running down it
3. Yup
4. Nup
5. Nup
6. Yup

Hoping they come to Australia. Them and the Pixies are the last two bands in my pantheon of artists to see.

/realises that I will be disapointed due to the Pixies.
//You made me realise was better than loveless

Solid State Vittles: Saw MBV last year. Loudest show I've ever been to. Would risk permanent damage to see them again.

/don't find them the least bit depressing

Yeah WTF! I was recovering from some bad pills at a festival and they nearly killed me.
They just kept hammering away at the instruments in an outro to a song with some insane distortion over it so you you couldn't hear or feel anything distinct. It went on for at least 5 minutes with a blinding white light and then I just had to get the hell out of there.
Great up until then and I love them and all but watch out if you think you're in for a washy, dreamy, smilin-to-the-oldies gig.

Third_Uncle_Eno: I see "loveless" in stores a lot [often for cheap] and i see it's gotten very good reviews... [at the time and in retrospect]

but is it really that good?
does it sound like a wall of sound should?
or is it just noise-rock?
or is it just crap?
is it the start of indie?
is it better than rap?


I would venture that you'd probably like it. There's videos for songs from the album (To Here Knows When, Only Shallow, Soon) on youtube, but I think the songs are better taken as a whole than individual tracks.

Yes, it's wall-of-sound noisy. I think it's best to hear the album through headphones at top volume and with no real prior knowledge as to what they sound like. That's how I first heard Loveless. I wouldn't say it's the start of indie, but you can definitely hear its influence on, say, The Smashing Pumpkins. (read: their good tracks. None of that Disarm bullshiat. Think: Cherub Rock)

I also know you like Wire, so you'd probably enjoy their cover of Map Ref 41 N 93 W



mome23: I'll believe there's new material when it exists, and not a moment before.



I'm inclined to believe, especially since a lot of conflicting information has come out about unreleased material, but the past few interviews I've read, Kevin has been somewhat open (for Kevin, anyway), about new/unreleased material.

And it's a bit of a joke that I've had rips of the Isn't Anything and Loveless remasters for nearly a year now. I'm hoping the delay is due to them wanting to remaster the Creation-era EPs along with the albums as the second disc to each of those albums. (i.e. "Isn't Anything + You Made Me Realise, Feed Me With Your Kiss, Instrumental 7", Sugar" and "Loveless + Glider, Tremolo, Map Ref and that instrumental Kevin did for Lalahumansteps)

RoyalSouvenir: //You made me realise was better than loveless



I would say YMMR is a better start, but Loveless is an overall better album and more indicative as to what people are referring to when they compare someone to MBV.

So they're going to tour with the Silversun Pickups?

FeedTheCollapse

thanks, mate!
what a help you are.

Third_Uncle_Eno: mome23
I'm tempted to bite, but between your login and the way your questions are structured, I'm dubious...

lol what's THAT supposed to mean?!

btw, it was originally going to be just 1 or 2 lines/questions, but then i wrote more and rhymed some ends of them and it became a poem. so........yeah.

Sorry, seemed like it was a lyric I didn't recognize.
Obviously you've had several people answer yr questions. FeedTheCollapse is right, check out the Wire cover (Eno and Wire, you're my kinda cat).

I would say Loveless deserves its reputation. It's a kind of wall of sound, but not in the Boredoms (or Spector for that matter) sense. More of a shimmering, gauzy wall, kinda similar to Cocteau Twins. MBV could be loosely described as The Cocteau Twins meet the Jesus and Mary Chain. It's not an entirely accurate description, but gets the general idea across. I usually consider noise-rock to be a lot more aggressive and cacophonous than MBV, which is downright pretty at times, and I say that as someone who digs both.

Is it better than rap? I dunno, can you really compare the two?
It's better than most rap I suppose, but that's true for most rock as well, IMO.

LandStander: Link not farked for me.

More members and folk-blues influence? Could be okay, but don't call it MBV. He'll never top Loveless.

/prove me wrong, kevin. prove me wrong

Do you own anything besides Loveless? Because Loveless is about a million miles away from what the band sounded like when it started.

One of my favorite things about MBV is being able to watch the band progress from Cramps-esque goth rock to sunny, shimmering pop to Sonic Youth disciples to groundbreaking beautiful-noise makers -- I don't see that a supposed "folk blues" direction is really going to be that left-field for them. Definitely interested in where this is headed.

Oh, and open-minded MBV fans should check out Japancake's all-instrumental version of Loveless.

ArturoBandini: Oh, and open-minded MBV fans should check out Japancake's all-instrumental version of Loveless.

I think I downloaded some of it. Kind of sounded like an Easy Listening version of Loveless.

JDJD: PLEASE LET IT BE SONIC BOOM!

The Art Garfunkel of Spacemen 3? Eh, no way...

Though they have been touring with Spectrum lately. Any one know of any opening acts on their US tour? I heard someone called Lift to Experience is opening in Dallas, but nothing about Seattle or any other dates.

FeedTheCollapse: ArturoBandini: Oh, and open-minded MBV fans should check out Japancake's all-instrumental version of Loveless.

I think I downloaded some of it. Kind of sounded like an Easy Listening version of Loveless.

I don't know if I'd say "easy listening" (any more than the original Loveless already kind of is, in an odd way), but I think I get what you're saying. Japancakes is known for it's mellow instrumentals, so I'm sure they tend to mellow-fy the songs a bit here.

It's not 100% perfect, but I think it has some really strong moments, particularly as a cover album, which usually don't get me too excited.

I also love the fact that some of the performers are so varied in their backgrounds. The pedal steel playing is from John Neff, who currently plays with the Drive-By Truckers. The bassist is Heather McIntosh, who - aside from being a tremendously talented musician - is also currently the touring bassist for Lil Wayne.

"My Bloody Valentine: Just as depressing crappy as before, now with more band members"



/loveless was a steaming heap of random irritating noise

monsieurstabby: "My Bloody Valentine: Just as depressing crappy as before, now with more band members"



/loveless was a steaming heap of random irritating noise

your opinion is worthless. Thank you for sharing.