Sure, let's forget the 8 years leading up this. That has nothing to do with what is going on now. The state of the U.S., nay, the world, has been brought down in 77 days by one man. Thaks for opening my eyes. Not.

This just in: Democrats' memory only lasts eight years.

Shouldn't you be off getting teabagged, Submitard?

Jesus Christ... who would have guessed that the modern conservative movement would devolve into such a whining, pissy group of little biatches.

Seriously, there's less pissing and moaning in a sorority house during Shark Week.

McFifenstein: This just in: Democrats' memory only lasts eight years.

Better than 77 days, I suppose

Blues_X: Jesus Christ... who would have guessed that the modern conservative movement would devolve into such a whining, pissy group of little biatches.

Seriously, there's less pissing and moaning in a sorority house during Shark Week.

a portion of them have evolved into just that, but it's better than basing your entire platform on it, I guess.

McFifenstein: This just in: Democrats' memory only lasts eight years.

Nope. memory works just fine. Just referencing the point where the whole thing started going down the crapper.

Boulderdash: McFifenstein: This just in: Democrats' memory only lasts eight years.

Nope. memory works just fine. Just referencing the point where the whole thing started going down the crapper.

Carter was like 30 years ago

McFifenstein: Carter was like 30 years ago

Right, when the total national debt was under $1T. Not the annual deficit, the ENTIRE debt.

What a freaking whackadoodle...

Lundah: McFifenstein: Carter was like 30 years ago

Right, when the total national debt was under $1T. Not the annual deficit, the ENTIRE debt.

these things take time.
I'm not saying this is Obama's fault, you already know I don't think he's helping, but the economy is in a shambles whether you like it or not.
Just cause your boy is in the house doesn't mean everything is perfect now.
A lot of things led up to this, one of them is Bush, but the "ZOMG BUSH" argument that you guys apply to everything is played out, and very very short sighted.

FTA: · S 773 giving to AKA the ability to shut down the internet at such times as he deems necessary in the name of "national security."

Um, really? Shut down the internets? oh noes!!

McFifenstein: but the "ZOMG BUSH" argument that you guys apply to everything is played out, and very very short sighted.

You're right. Reagan should also be catching a lot of the blame for starting this ball rolling...

McFifenstein: A lot of things led up to this, one of them is Bush, but the "ZOMG BUSH" argument that you guys apply to everything is played out, and very very short sighted.

Would you rather a ZOMG REAGAN? He set a lot of policies and ideas in motion that culminated with the destruction of the US economy.

So tell me again why there's a Political Inclination Thermometric Analyzer when articles like this get labeled as neutral.

McFifenstein: these things take time.
I'm not saying this is Obama's fault, you already know I don't think he's helping, but the economy is in a shambles whether you like it or not.
Just cause your boy is in the house doesn't mean everything is perfect now.
A lot of things led up to this, one of them is Bush, but the "ZOMG BUSH" argument that you guys apply to everything is played out, and very very short sighted.

All of this is true. Also, the argument could be made that had Carter spent more domestically, as both Clinton and Obama have done with stimulus packages, the sour economy he inherited would have turned around instead of sputtering on for his entire term. I can't argue that, particularly domestically, Carter was, for the most part, a failed administration, but he didn't get EVERYTHING wrong.

GAT_00: McFifenstein: A lot of things led up to this, one of them is Bush, but the "ZOMG BUSH" argument that you guys apply to everything is played out, and very very short sighted.

Would you rather a ZOMG REAGAN? He set a lot of policies and ideas in motion that culminated with the destruction of the US economy.

There is Reagan, but then there's Carter who got the housing bubble started, then Clinton who super charged it.
You can blame just about everybody, but I suppose you're going to ignore the fact that bush tried to get congress to do something about it 18 times and got blocked.

McFifenstein: There is Reagan, but then there's Carter who got the housing bubble started, then Clinton who super charged it.

Wait, are you still clinging to the CRA thing? After that's been debunked how many times? Really?

Rev.K: So tell me again why there's a Political Inclination Thermometric Analyzer when articles like this get labeled as neutral.

Fixed for me.

Lundah: McFifenstein: There is Reagan, but then there's Carter who got the housing bubble started, then Clinton who super charged it.

Wait, are you still clinging to the CRA thing? After that's been debunked how many times? Really?

The government forced lenders to give mortgages to people who couldn't afford them, then the obvious happens, and then they blame "predatory lenders" for the ensuing carnage.
If you take the government's word as "debunking" then you have a problem.

McFifenstein: Lundah: McFifenstein: Carter was like 30 years ago

Right, when the total national debt was under $1T. Not the annual deficit, the ENTIRE debt.

these things take time.
I'm not saying this is Obama's fault, you already know I don't think he's helping, but the economy is in a shambles whether you like it or not.
Just cause your boy is in the house doesn't mean everything is perfect now.
A lot of things led up to this, one of them is Bush, but the "ZOMG BUSH" argument that you guys apply to everything is played out, and very very short sighted.

so this is all clinton's fault?

or is it carter's fault, because obviously it's not reagan's fault or bush sr's fault. oh, actually i hear it's all fdr's fault. personally, i blame taft.

McFifenstein: You can blame just about everybody, but I suppose you're going to ignore the fact that bush tried to get congress to do something about it 18 times and got blocked.

Too bad the Republican-controlled congress he had for 6 of his 8 years couldn't do anything about it.

McFifenstein: Lundah: McFifenstein: There is Reagan, but then there's Carter who got the housing bubble started, then Clinton who super charged it.

Wait, are you still clinging to the CRA thing? After that's been debunked how many times? Really?

The government forced lenders to give mortgages to people who couldn't afford them, then the obvious happens, and then they blame "predatory lenders" for the ensuing carnage.
If you take the government's word as "debunking" then you have a problem.

Yeah, except they didn't. Subprime lenders are usually state licensed, not federal; which exempts them from the CRA. Also, during the Bush administration, there was a severe lack of enforcement of the CRA, so the lenders that were bound to follow that law faced essentially no consequences for not abiding by it.

Source (pops) (note the date of the article)

cranberryzero: personally, i blame taft.

I knew it was that rat-bastard Taft. It's ALWAYS Taft.

cranberryzero: so this is all clinton's fault?

I've blamed everybody including bush.
but, I have to apologize, for I am apparently an extremist.
Don't listen to me.
It is also important to note that I only just started questioning the government.

McFifenstein: The government forced lenders to give mortgages to people who couldn't afford them

You truly are the dumbest person on the face of the earth. You win a cookie.

McFifenstein: GAT_00: McFifenstein: A lot of things led up to this, one of them is Bush, but the "ZOMG BUSH" argument that you guys apply to everything is played out, and very very short sighted.

Would you rather a ZOMG REAGAN? He set a lot of policies and ideas in motion that culminated with the destruction of the US economy.

There is Reagan, but then there's Carter who got the housing bubble started, then Clinton who super charged it.
You can blame just about everybody, but I suppose you're going to ignore the fact that bush tried to get congress to do something about it 18 times and got blocked.

Then there's Nixon who took the dollar off the gold standard to pay for the Vietnam war, which started the whole inflation thing.

f*cking taft...
*shakes tiny fist*

make me some tea: Then there's Nixon who took the dollar off the gold standard to pay for the Vietnam war, which started the whole inflation thing.

yeah, what the shiat is up with that?
I just don't understand the dollar anymore.

NewportBarGuy: McFifenstein: The government forced lenders to give mortgages to people who couldn't afford them

You truly are the dumbest person on the face of the earth. You win a cookie.

I see we have a revisionist historian among us.
at least I got a cookie out of the deal.

make me some tea: Then there's Nixon who took the dollar off the gold standard to pay for the Vietnam war, which started the whole inflation thing.

Don't forget about Ike who started our involvement in Vietnam. And the French...

I meant to say I never did understand the dollar

More on CRA and subprime mortgages (pops) (warning, PDF)

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

uh oh, I gotta go, the feds is knockin at my door

McFifenstein: I see we have a revisionist historian among us.
at least I got a cookie out of the deal.

You're claiming that we're revising history? You don't have a damn clue what has happened the last 40 years, do you?

GAT_00: You don't have a damn clue what has happened the last 40 years, do you?

He's been busy doin' stuff.

GAT_00: McFifenstein: I see we have a revisionist historian among us.
at least I got a cookie out of the deal.

You're claiming that we're revising history? You don't have a damn clue what has happened the last 40 years, do you?

Let me guess, everything democrats have done has only been peaches and cream, and all the republicans are warmongering racists?

The Onanist: GAT_00: You don't have a damn clue what has happened the last 40 years, do you?

He's been busy doin' stuff.

and things...

McFifenstein: I see we have a revisionist historian among us.

Put the bong down dude. 90% of lenders in sub-prime and Alt-A were Countrywide, Indymac, WAMU, Accredited Home Lending, etc. NONE of them were Commercial Banks, thus not regulated by CRA. The Commercial Banks made very few loans to people who did not qualify.

Actual history is not revisionist history. You should really get Hannity's dick out of your mouth. You have no idea where that thing's been.

McFifenstein: Let me guess, everything democrats have done has only been peaches and cream, and all the republicans are warmongering racists?

Speaking only for myself here, but hell farking no. Politicians are only human, and for some, even calling them that is being generous. I have fewer idealogical conflicts with Democrats than Republicans on most things, but I don't agree 100% with either party.

NewportBarGuy: Actual history is not revisionist history. You should really get Hannity's dick out of your mouth. You have no idea where that thing's been.

says the man currently slobbering on barry's shlong

This just in. Flooding in the midwest now attributed largely to the influx of neocon tears. More after the foxnews teabag daisy chain coverage.

Lundah: but I don't agree 100% with either party.

that works for you, and I applaud you for it.
but in my case, it makes me an extremist.
YAY

McFifenstein: but the "ZOMG BUSH" argument that you guys apply

That wouldn't sound so hypocritical if it came from someone whose default setting isn't "ZOMG CARTER".

McFifenstein: says the man currently slobbering on barry's shlong

What? Oh yeah. MMMMMmmmmmmmmmm yummy. Love that darkness. Your intellect is quite impressive.

Have fun playing with yourself, Capt. America.

McFifenstein: Lundah: but I don't agree 100% with either party.

that works for you, and I applaud you for it.
but in my case, it makes me an extremist.
YAY

reported

jbc: McFifenstein: but the "ZOMG BUSH" argument that you guys apply

That wouldn't sound so hypocritical if it came from someone whose default setting isn't "ZOMG CARTER".

my default setting is and always has been f*ck government.
I won't turn that setting off even if my guy was in charge.
like, Zombie Reagan.

McFifenstein: Let me guess, everything democrats have done has only been peaches and cream, and all the republicans are warmongering racists?

Says the guy who thinks everything the Repubs have done is just awesome. When did I say everything the Democrats have done was just great? Way to put words into my mouth, but I guess you have to so you can find something to attack me with since history and reality don't work.

McFifenstein: my default setting is and always has been f*ck government.
I won't turn that setting off even if my guy was in charge.
like, Zombie Reagan.

Ironic, considering the massive expansion of government that was overseen by his administration.

GAT_00: Says the guy who thinks everything the Repubs have done is just awesome.

that's exactly what I said in every post in this thread.

Lundah: Ironic, considering the massive expansion of government that was overseen by his administration.

You really just took a Zombie Reagan comment seriously?
SERIOUSLY?

McFifenstein: that's exactly what I said in every post in this thread.

Well, lets see, we got a couple But Carter's, some But Clinton's, and a muttered very quietly Bush and Nixon might have farked up. You claim to blame everyone, yet you blame the Democrats almost entirely for shiat they didn't do.