Dumbass tag for submitter? Who's the dumbass here?

Conservative outrage is going to be through the roof over this.

Mordant: Conservative outrage is going to be through the roof over this.

Why? I think it worked out pretty well. I hope we keep up a presence in the area until the other 200 people held by pirates are released.

Just because I don't like some of his policies does not mean he is incapable of doing something well. I liked most of the policies of President Bush and he let us down with the first bailout.

The Captain was freed unharmed, the exact result our nation was looking for. Good going President Obama!

I think they were already at risk. They aren't now though.

feckingmorons: Mordant: Conservative outrage is going to be through the roof over this.

Why?

Go read Red State. They popped open a few hundred fresh cases of Mountain Dew and Cheetos to slober their outrage that Obama didn't personally charge in Shaft-style and take out the pirates himself, like Cowboy Jesus Bush would've done, or they would've done in their Internet Tough Guy fantasies, right after they spent some quality time alone with their favorite Tom Clancy novel (the parts where the pages are sort of stuck together...).

kmmontandon: feckingmorons: Mordant: Conservative outrage is going to be through the roof over this.

Why?

Go read Red State. They popped open a few hundred fresh cases of Mountain Dew and Cheetos to slober their outrage that Obama didn't personally charge in Shaft-style and take out the pirates himself, like Cowboy Jesus Bush would've done, or they would've done in their Internet Tough Guy fantasies, right after they spent some quality time alone with their favorite Tom Clancy novel (the parts where the pages are sort of stuck together...).

Yeah, I look at that site from time to time, but you seem much more familar with it than I. You also seem to get some strange pleasure out of calling people with whom you don't agree, such as President Bush.

President Obama did the right thing by allowing the Navy to rescue the Captain. I wish he had done it sooner, but then I am not privy to all the intelligence that he is - one can only hope.

You seem a bit odd to me.

feckingmorons: I liked most of the policies of President Bush and he let us down with the first bailout.

Dude, he let us down from the got damn beginning.

John Paul Jones: feckingmorons: I liked most of the policies of President Bush and he let us down with the first bailout.

Dude, he let us down from the got damn beginning.

I think given the circumstances he did a good job. Remember no president has had to deal with a non-governmental coordinated attack on the US before in such magnitude that it killed over three thousand people.

Sure there are things that in retrospect should have been done differently, but since we did not have another attack as we did in President Bush's first year I think we as a nation are doing well. Our Democracy is intact and while our economy is not as robust as it has been previously we have had problems like this before from which we recovered.

If you think you could have done a better job well good on you. I think Obama could do a better job on the challenges that face him, but I am glad I don't have to do it.

I think this administration brings together many inexperienced staff and many experienced Clinton administration staffers, and I don't think that is truly what we need now. We had a president in the last administration who did what he felt was best for the country, and I think this administration pays more attention to polls. We can't have a referendum on every decision and I think we need a more forceful president. Perhaps Obama will become such. I certainly hope so.

feckingmorons: Remember no president has had to deal with a non-governmental coordinated attack on the US before in such magnitude that it killed over three thousand people.

Sure there are things that in retrospect should have been done differently, but since we did not have another attack as we did in President Bush's first year I think we as a nation are doing well.

Yes it's a damn good thing he invaded Iraq before they could attack again. Wait...what?

That's some first-rate trolling, subs. Looks like you've already got some bites, too!

+1

Look, how are conservatives going to view this? A 'senior US official' calls up the dude that used to work for the Clinton administration who happens to be a quasi-journalist now and says "hey, you know that awesome thing everyone is talking about right now? Yeah, that was totally our guy."

You can't win with this sh*t.

Obama probably did approve the action; he's a smart enough guy and it was a politically safe move compared to the Iranian hostage nightmare everyone now remembers Carter as the one who f*cked up so bad, as though he was the one who crashed the helicopter himself.

So rather than trying to argue political victory, let's just be happy NAVY did an fantastic job and we saved our dude. It avoids all the ugliness of political faction.

pnjunction: feckingmorons: Remember no president has had to deal with a non-governmental coordinated attack on the US before in such magnitude that it killed over three thousand people.

Sure there are things that in retrospect should have been done differently, but since we did not have another attack as we did in President Bush's first year I think we as a nation are doing well.

Yes it's a damn good thing he invaded Iraq before they could attack again. Wait...what?

Yes, I know I am an idiot for trying to be serious on Fark, because the children are allowed in here too.

That was a pretty good move from Obama. I'm glad the pilot is safe.

feckingmorons: kmmontandon: feckingmorons: Mordant: Conservative outrage is going to be through the roof over this.

Why?

Go read Red State. They popped open a few hundred fresh cases of Mountain Dew and Cheetos to slober their outrage that Obama didn't personally charge in Shaft-style and take out the pirates himself, like Cowboy Jesus Bush would've done, or they would've done in their Internet Tough Guy fantasies, right after they spent some quality time alone with their favorite Tom Clancy novel (the parts where the pages are sort of stuck together...).

Yeah, I look at that site from time to time, but you seem much more familar with it than I.


There's a greenlit link to the article I'm talking about a short distance down the Commented page.

CtrlAltDelete: So rather than trying to argue political victory, let's just be happy NAVY did an fantastic job and we saved our dude. It avoids all the ugliness of political faction.

Pretty much, it's nice and all he authorized the rescue and everything, but I have to say the last thing I thought about when I heard that news was "What was Obama's relationship to this story".

Certainly worked out better than the French action earlier...

This is my favorite Obama move so far. Its not hard to pick a favorite though when there is only one I've liked.

I wonder if this will be a watershed in how we deal with pirates (like 9/11 was with terror) or just another forgotten chapter about how we responded...like Katrina...changing nothing.

CtrlAltDelete: Obama probably did approve the action; he's a smart enough guy and it was a politically safe move compared to the Iranian hostage nightmare everyone now remembers Carter as the one who f*cked up so bad, as though he was the one who crashed the helicopter himself.

Carter's problem with that is that he didn't want to take any lives. The pained steps they took to try to go along with that meant that if any one little thing went wrong, the house of cards would come tumbling. Which it did.
Its nice to see at least Obama's a little more pragmatic when it comes to those kinds of things.

hubiestubert: Certainly worked out better than the French action earlier...

yeah, although I can't really fault the french too much for that. They made an effort at least.
And they were trying to save 5 hostages, while our navy was only trying to save 1. more hostages, more chances something can go horribly wrong and someone innocent gets hurt.

I think it's bullshiat they don't allow ships to mount some defensive firepower. A few M2s, some grenades to drop when they come alongside. A 106mm recoiless rifle if you're ambitious. Enough of this fire hose crap. Cut out the middle man and shoot them BEFORE they get on the ship already.

feckingmorons: John Paul Jones: feckingmorons: I liked most of the policies of President Bush and he let us down with the first bailout.

Dude, he let us down from the got damn beginning.

I think given the circumstances he did a good job. Remember no president has had to deal with a non-governmental coordinated attack on the US before in such magnitude that it killed over three thousand people.

Sure there are things that in retrospect should have been done differently, but since we did not have another attack as we did in President Bush's first year I think we as a nation are doing well. Our Democracy is intact and while our economy is not as robust as it has been previously we have had problems like this before from which we recovered.

If you think you could have done a better job well good on you. I think Obama could do a better job on the challenges that face him, but I am glad I don't have to do it.

I think this administration brings together many inexperienced staff and many experienced Clinton administration staffers, and I don't think that is truly what we need now. We had a president in the last administration who did what he felt was best for the country, and I think this administration pays more attention to polls. We can't have a referendum on every decision and I think we need a more forceful president. Perhaps Obama will become such. I certainly hope so.

The sad part is that you're serious.

I_C_Weener: This is my favorite Obama move so far. Its not hard to pick a favorite though when there is only one I've liked.

I wonder if this will be a watershed in how we deal with pirates (like 9/11 was with terror) or just another forgotten chapter about how we responded...like Katrina...changing nothing.

I'm curious: do you not think that hitting Al Qaeda inside Pakistan is a good move?

Crosshair: I think it's bullshiat they don't allow ships to mount some defensive firepower. A few M2s, some grenades to drop when they come alongside. A 106mm recoiless rifle if you're ambitious. Enough of this fire hose crap. Cut out the middle man and shoot them BEFORE they get on the ship already.

My understanding is that, insurance-wise, it's much more of a hassle than letting the situation as it is right now, not only that but it endangers the crew and makes the chances of people being killed much higher, making it not really worth it.

Tatsuma: Crosshair: I think it's bullshiat they don't allow ships to mount some defensive firepower. A few M2s, some grenades to drop when they come alongside. A 106mm recoiless rifle if you're ambitious. Enough of this fire hose crap. Cut out the middle man and shoot them BEFORE they get on the ship already.

My understanding is that, insurance-wise, it's much more of a hassle than letting the situation as it is right now, not only that but it endangers the crew and makes the chances of people being killed much higher, making it not really worth it.

I vote we do like a sky-marshal type of thing. Have a crewmember that is armed and disguised.

kmmontandon: feckingmorons: kmmontandon: feckingmorons: Mordant: Conservative outrage is going to be through the roof over this.

Why?

Go read Red State. They popped open a few hundred fresh cases of Mountain Dew and Cheetos to slober their outrage that Obama didn't personally charge in Shaft-style and take out the pirates himself, like Cowboy Jesus Bush would've done, or they would've done in their Internet Tough Guy fantasies, right after they spent some quality time alone with their favorite Tom Clancy novel (the parts where the pages are sort of stuck together...).

Yeah, I look at that site from time to time, but you seem much more familar with it than I.


There's a greenlit link to the article I'm talking about a short distance down the Commented page.

Yeah, I am pretty comfortable with the whole Fark thing at this point. Why do you read stuff that annoys you? I know Daily Kos exists, but I can't say I have read it in a year.

I'm OK with reading differing opinions, but really most of the stuff online is crap. Rush Limbaugh is on the radio every day too, but I seldom listen to him. I don't complain that people have different opinions than I do. What possible good could it do for me to say that Kos, or Huffington Post is wrong. Of course I think they are wrong most of the time, why even bother. Trust me life is much easier if you stop worrying about how stupid everyone else is.

Tatsuma: I'm curious: do you not think that hitting Al Qaeda inside Pakistan is a good move?

I'm a little leery of doing anything to further destabilize Pakistan. Its not like their people really like us. And they are a nuclear nation. So, I'd work a little closer with their people on any actions that take place in Pakistan...unless its hot pursuit across the border.

drevil877: I think this administration brings together many inexperienced staff and many experienced Clinton administration staffers, and I don't think that is truly what we need now. We had a president in the last administration who did what he felt was best for the country, and I think this administration pays more attention to polls. We can't have a referendum on every decision and I think we need a more forceful president. Perhaps Obama will become such. I certainly hope so.

The sad part is that you're serious.

Your thoughts? Oh, you don't have any thoughts other than everyone else is wrong.

I wonder why we didn't elect you.

Well, subby...

I_C_Weener: I'm a little leery of doing anything to further destabilize Pakistan. Its not like their people really like us. And they are a nuclear nation. So, I'd work a little closer with their people on any actions that take place in Pakistan...unless its hot pursuit across the border.

See, I partly agree with you, but then there's the fact that the ISI works closely with Madrassas associated with them, and that the Pakistani government allows them to operate freely in certain sections of the country that makes me think hitting them once in a while isn't a bad idea.

cameroncrazy1984: I vote we do like a sky-marshal type of thing. Have a crewmember that is armed and disguised.

That could be a good idea, but then again, how is one guy going to fend off six guys with AKs unless he's that man:

Crosshair: I think it's bullshiat they don't allow ships to mount some defensive firepower. A few M2s, some grenades to drop when they come alongside. A 106mm recoiless rifle if you're ambitious. Enough of this fire hose crap. Cut out the middle man and shoot them BEFORE they get on the ship already.

Yeah, because there's nothing that gets your blood pumping like an international incident.

feckingmorons: drevil877: I think this administration brings together many inexperienced staff and many experienced Clinton administration staffers, and I don't think that is truly what we need now. We had a president in the last administration who did what he felt was best for the country, and I think this administration pays more attention to polls. We can't have a referendum on every decision and I think we need a more forceful president. Perhaps Obama will become such. I certainly hope so.

The sad part is that you're serious.

Your thoughts? Oh, you don't have any thoughts other than everyone else is wrong.

I wonder why we didn't elect you.

Where the hell did that come from? I don't think everyone else is wrong. I just don't know how anyone could have lived through the last 8 years and come to the conclusions that you did. That's all.

Here are some of the better takes on this from Freeper world:


We knew the truth from the moment the Captain was rescued and we could detect the spinning from the first moments.

No one here on FR gets that tingle when O's name is mentioned. We still have all our mental faculties.


5 posted on Sunday, April 12, 2009 7:06:34 PM by Carley (President Obama Dropped a MOAB on America)

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Now he has muslim blood on his hands. How long till he cracks? ☺

3 posted on Sunday, April 12, 2009 6:54:29 PM by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)

I think the public will see through this because the events unfolded publicly and people know Obambi had nothing to say until it was over. He is so transparently trying to claim success when he was probably doing everything to make a resolution that preserved America's interests all but impossible.


8 posted on Sunday, April 12, 2009 6:57:39 PM by WashingtonSource


fox and others are spinning this and again taking the white house's word as gospel

first obama never said one thing about this during the take kidnapping and never denounced these lot

then the report comes out that talks broke down as the Somali elders refused to hand over the pirates if they reached land
during this time obama was flying a cook nearly a 1000 miles to cook him pizza thus making more pollution and a burden to tax payers

then the capt saw that the pirates were nearing the coast and said I will use the order of his life is threatened because if I do not they will now get away

it is no secret that obama and his admin wanted to talk and arrest and even sent the FBI(why) over there to make a case

now it is over because the nay capt made a decision the all of a sudden the white house comes out with well I gave the order and it is me

what utter B/S and the media lap it up instead of looking back at past comments and reports

I swear people in this country have a short memory and no brains

55 posted on Sunday, April 12, 2009 7:36:01 PM by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick queer sham--- end racism end affirmative action)

Nobody could believe what they heard the first time.

I'm not buying any of the BO did the right thing crap. History tells the story: he detests the military, his associations have always been with American hating radicals who despise our way of life & our military.

He has never done a damnned thing in his life; he's a known liar & today I'm supposed to believe he had an awakening, saw the light & grew into a CIC?

No.

He's the same anti American scumbag he always was.


60 posted on Sunday, April 12, 2009 7:53:12 PM by jazminerose


it does not help that on the weekends FNC has the weakest and most left leaning teams.


80 posted on Sunday, April 12, 2009 8:52:47 PM by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)

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CDP: Freeber WHAARGAAARBLLL

Ho-leeeeeeee shiat.

If Jimmy Carter is responsible for the disaster that was OPERATION EAGLE CLAW, then Barack Obama was responsible for the successful rescue of Captain Phillips.

You can't have it both ways, Freepers.

drevil877: feckingmorons: drevil877: I think this administration brings together many inexperienced staff and many experienced Clinton administration staffers, and I don't think that is truly what we need now. We had a president in the last administration who did what he felt was best for the country, and I think this administration pays more attention to polls. We can't have a referendum on every decision and I think we need a more forceful president. Perhaps Obama will become such. I certainly hope so.

The sad part is that you're serious.

Your thoughts? Oh, you don't have any thoughts other than everyone else is wrong.

I wonder why we didn't elect you.

Where the hell did that come from? I don't think everyone else is wrong. I just don't know how anyone could have lived through the last 8 years and come to the conclusions that you did. That's all.

So you don't think the nation was attacked during Bush's first term, and you don't want Obama to succeed?

You seem to offer nothing substantive, just short ejaculations that demonstrate your lack of reason.

OK. If you say so.

CDP: Here are some of the better takes on this from Freeper world:

We do know where the site is, there really is no need to cut and post from there.

It seems there is a great deal more outrage that someone has a different opinion than anything else on Fark. Is there some reason that you are concerned about the opinion of the people who support the guy that lost the election?

Why not just be pleased that the Navy was allowed to do the job for which they have trained?

Q: Did it work?
A: Yes

Q: Does George Snuffleupagus approve?
A: Who cares?

I'm a gun-toting, left-leaning libertarian (neither Democrat nor Republican), and I'd be the first one in line to shake the President's hand and tell him good jerb on the decision to decisively end the hostage drama. Doubly so for the operatives that did the wet work.

And now, apparently, the Somali pirates are all butthurt and are spouting off with threats:

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"The French and the Americans will regret starting this killing. We do not kill, but take only ransom. We shall do something to anyone we see as French or American from now," Hussein, a pirate, told Reuters by satellite phone.

Last I checked, kidnapping, grand theft, and extortion were pretty serious offenses, especially when firearms are involved. Suck it, Slim.

Darth Invictus: And now, apparently, the Somali pirates are all butthurt and are spouting off with threats:

they're just pissed they didn't get their money.

Where in the article does it say anything about Stephanopolous's opinion on this? The comments section looks to be where all the Wharrgarbl is.

Darth Invictus: Last I checked, kidnapping, grand theft, and extortion were pretty serious offenses, especially when firearms are involved.

So is dumping nuclear waste in and over fishing the waters of a foreign country whose government collapsed in 1991 and then being selectively outraged when they are upset about it.

Not that I'm trying to defend the actions of the pirates, but c'mon- make people desperate and see if you like the taste of it. Kind of similar situation we have with terrorists and our interference in the Middle East.

I'm a minority, so I'm really getting a kick out of this thread.

Crosshair: I think it's bullshiat they don't allow ships to mount some defensive firepower. A few M2s, some grenades to drop when they come alongside. A 106mm recoiless rifle if you're ambitious. Enough of this fire hose crap. Cut out the middle man and shoot them BEFORE they get on the ship already.

I believe most cruise ships the sail that area are equipped with sonic deterrents. I wonder how long it will be before shipping lines will pick up this technology.

Trading arms to radicals for hostages - okay.

Special forces op to rescue them - not okay.

Is that about the gist?

feckingmorons: pnjunction: feckingmorons: Remember no president has had to deal with a non-governmental coordinated attack on the US before in such magnitude that it killed over three thousand people.

Sure there are things that in retrospect should have been done differently, but since we did not have another attack as we did in President Bush's first year I think we as a nation are doing well.

Yes it's a damn good thing he invaded Iraq before they could attack again. Wait...what?

Yes, I know I am an idiot for trying to be serious on Fark, because the children are allowed in here too.

Oh noes, tell me you're not on the goji berry juice. Your previous post doesn't jibe with what you're responding to you feckinmoron

Now that's a good Fark headline. It's not a question of "Is submitter serious or trolling?" Nope, it's a blatant, quality troll. And it fits perfect here.

Zaphod B.: Dumbass tag for submitter? Who's the dumbass here?

Dumbass tag is for people who don't understand the difference between launching an operation to retrieve and putting elite soldiers on standby with orders to kill if the safety of the hostage is put into jeopardy.

Basically, "Sit there and do nothing, unless they go for the guy."

They saw an AK-47 pointed at his back, thus took action to prevent the perceived threat against his life from being carried out.

/not subby
//Obama didn't have much to do with this situation

TELEPROMPTER! JIMMY CARTER! TEABAGS!

/awesome headline

Great resolution. Our men went in there and saved the hostage, and even kept one pirate alive to question.