He has a point, I suppose ...

One day, it'll be legal. Until then, still a stupid move, dude.

He should move to California and grow it legal now that the Obama justice dept. said they would only raid people who violated both state and federal law. You have to work with the system not against it.

Police don't write the laws, they just selectively enforce them.

Cop: Crack? Why look, I just found a few rock in your pocket. Tah dah!

done in one post

It is the sort of reasoning you'd expect from a pot user

I am going to come out and say it, crack is farking awesome. But if you want to get rid of it, legalize cocaine.

I understand the jovial stereotype of the "Urban crack-head" running around sucking dicks and stealing stuff. But understand that these people are pieces of shiat who would be doing the same actions, regardless of the drugs they are on.

Heroine, pills, alcohol; if they need their fix and can't afford or otherwise obtain their fix, they will resort to the same shinanigins.

The fact of the matter is, cocaine is a direct extension of man's reach towards God.

Cocaine is obtained from the leaves of the coca plant, which in itself is viewed by many cultures as a "gift" from God.

The removal of impurities, in order to create an experiance where a slob like me can rock out with 19 year old collage chicks in hottubs, is a desire to celebrate my existance on this plant, an existance only provided by the hospice of the higher-power in question.

By making Cocaine illegal, and by proxy: more expensive, the overall standard of woman one can pull in via their enslavement to narcotics depreciate along with the number of teeth per subjigate. This is a very bad thing, and should be legislated towards correction.

I just had to post here to make the previous poster's user-name meaningless.

You've taken on a lot of responsibility, stu1-1, committing yourself to hanging with this thread until the bitter end.

Because you know a poster with the name like The guy at the end of the thread is going to sneak back here long after the rest of us have moved on, and post again

The right thing to say is "Don't you have anything better to do officer?"

lewismarktwo: The right thing to say is "Don't you have anything better to do officer?"

Probably be about as effective.

Procedural Texture: Police don't write the laws, they just selectively enforce them.

Hahaha. Very well-stated. I've had cops give me back my weed and go on their way. Even they know it's a stupid farking law.

DeRosso: It is the sort of reasoning you'd expect from a pot user

And that is the type of reasoning I'd expect from a douchenozzle.

When the government has nothing better to do than to tell people what they can stick up their arse or get high on, it's time for that empire to get a smackdown.

Actually I cant imagine anything better to say.

What did you expect him to say? "Ham and Cheese Omelet"?

Magemage64: Actually I cant imagine anything better to say.

What did you expect him to say? "Ham and Cheese Omelet"?

"Listen piggy, you run over there and get me 3 french cruellers, a large coffee, and a ham and cheese croissant, and I'll be wiling to forget this whole thing happened."

meh. i dunno. it worked for me with a TSA guard.

me: "Look, it's not a bomb."
him: (pockets weed) "Go on through."

/pre-911. ymmv.

DeRosso : It is the sort of reasoning you'd expect from a pot user

What? Appeal to people's common sense and humanity? Good point, that's not going to get you very far is it.

DeRosso: It is the sort of reasoning you'd expect from a pot user

Article doesen't say he was a user.

99% chance he is a user anyway so yeah


/Knew a dude who sold, didn't toke

wrenchboy: DeRosso: It is the sort of reasoning you'd expect from a pot user

Article doesen't say he was a user.

99% chance he is a user anyway so yeah


/Knew a dude who sold, didn't toke

It's a gateway product. First you're selling marijuana, then avon.

Seems pretty reasonable to me. It's not like he was putting anybody in harm's way or anything. At the very worst we should look at weed the same way we look at double parking; If you get caught selling it you shouldn't get anything worse than a mildly irritating fine.

There is no rational justification for arresting people over something as trivially benign as marijuana.

police received a complaint of a man in a Chevrolet Suburban selling marijuana to patrons of a bar across the street.

Friggin bar probably narcd him. Or the usual dealer at the bar, who pays a "business tax" to the local cops.

Epistax: wrenchboy: DeRosso: It is the sort of reasoning you'd expect from a pot user

Article doesen't say he was a user.

99% chance he is a user anyway so yeah


/Knew a dude who sold, didn't toke

It's a gateway product. First you're selling marijuana, then avon.

Before long you're hitting up all of your friends with Amway pitches. "It's a wonderful opportunity because you get to own your own business," you tell anybody who will listen.

When that fails you'll do anything for a hit of capitalism, so you find yourself whoring yourself out to Cutco. You keep repeating your newfound mantra over and over in your head to keep yourself from collapsing in a fit of depression: "I'm selling knives. That's a legitimate profession." Even though you know their product sucks, the allure of multi-level marketing keeps you stuck swirling in this downward spiral of compromised values.

And then one day you find yourself selling magazine subscriptions door to door, and it is at that point that you know that you have hit rock bottom.

I don't want to feed a troll, but is this where The guy at the end of the thread was educated? (new window)

Occam's Chainsaw: One day, it'll be legal. Until then, still a stupid move, dude.

I could get a Oregon permit Monday morning to be a medical "provider". Which is a fancy word for legally growing up to 42 plants. Obama has mandated a stand down on Fed going after medical operations.

Almost there legally. I'm thinking I might get a permit because when it does become legal, you can bet your ass the drug companies are all over it. Pot is a serious cash crop and I'd make a good farmer.

wrenchboy: DeRosso: It is the sort of reasoning you'd expect from a pot user

Article doesen't say he was a user.

99% chance he is a user anyway so yeah


/Knew a dude who sold, didn't toke

He was found with 26 grams. 2 short of an oz, so either he made a sale or two before getting busted or he took his 2 for personal use.

The guy at the end of the thread: I am going to come out and say it, crack is farking awesome. But if you want to get rid of it, legalize cocaine.

For some reason, at one of the jails I do work at the Meth heads were able to get amphetamines. Talking with them, on opposite sides of the bars of course, they remarked on how much better amphetamines were.

Meth is a substitute drug. People use it because the Fed cracked down on "safer" amphetamines and meth was easier to make.

pelzar:
wrenchboy: DeRosso: It is the sort of reasoning you'd expect from a pot user

Article doesen't say he was a user.

99% chance he is a user anyway so yeah

/Knew a dude who sold, didn't toke

He was found with 26 grams. 2 short of an oz, so either he made a sale or two before getting busted or he took his 2 for personal use.

Well, technically he didn't confess to selling pot, just to not selling crack. I'm sure his lawyer can point that out as well as successfully objecting to any assumption like yours that the prosecutor might make, to charge him for more than an ounce because of. FTA:

fifth-degree criminal possession of marijuana

Doesn't sound like a kingpin charge

/Can't believe this hasn't been posted yet.

SwiftFox:

He was found with 26 grams. 2 short of an oz, so either he made a sale or two before getting busted or he took his 2 for personal use.

FTA:fifth-degree criminal possession of marijuana

Doesn't sound like a kingpin charge

FTNYPenalCode:

Section 221.10 Criminal possession of marihuana in the fifth degree

Possession of:

2. one or more preparations, compounds, mixtures or substances containing marihuana and the preparations, compounds, mixtures or substances are of an aggregate weight of more than twenty-five grams.

Criminal possession of marihuana in the fifth degree is a class B misdemeanor.

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Sounds like piggy conveniently found juuuuuuuust enough to get over the limit. If you're under 25 grams, it's a violation and a $100 fine. B-Mis is a year or two of probation, maybe a month of jail time if it's not a first offense.

Ohhh, Niagara Falls.

There is a reason they call it "DOPE"

Meh... I used to get fined for possession usually about once a year, some years it was twice. It's not really a big deal here. I haven't been fined in a long time and I know that they know what I'm doing. I figure they just don't care that much.

UnspokenVoice: Meh... I used to get fined for possession usually about once a year, some years it was twice. It's not really a big deal here. I haven't been fined in a long time and I know that they know what I'm doing. I figure they just don't care that much.

Were you driving? Did you drive soon after?

Odds are if you're not putting anyone else in harms way, they really don't care.

(general convo here, not directed)
you want to sit in your basement, toking, eating doritos, drinking mountain dew, playing video games, yadda yadda yadda have fun with that. You get behind a wheel and start toking, enjoy your buttsex after you're convicted for manslaughter.

I don't normally drive stoned but when I do I'm pretty sure I'd be hard pressed to hurt anyone. I live in a *very* remote area where there are more deer than there are people and the roads aren't fit for driving fast.

I really don't like people while I'm stoned so I don't normally drive while stoned. Also, just to add to this point, there are different levels of stoned. Much like you can drive just fine after a beer or two (and still be legal to drive) you don't instantly go into the madness depicted in the movies of old. Though, to be sure, I'd agree that smoking pot and driving isn't the brightest thing to do but even if you do so and kill someone you're probably not going to be charged with manslaughter or vehicular homicide because of the pot - it will likely be some other reason if you are charged at all.