Peter Hook couldn"t have a more apt last name.. What catchy freaking bass-line on lots and lots of Division songs... which works in perfect contrast to the well of depression IAN is singing from.. its hard to feel depressed to a song like "Digital" , "disorder" or this one when its such an upbeat catchy line..

took me years before I finally got to read all of IAN's lyrics, which I could never make out... first time I read that , I was like "Are you shiatting me?" ... they read like one long apologetic suicide letter ... "Isolation" is so freaking sad

A yes, the wavelengths of a dying star. How beautiful.

very good video.

i love this song.
i have the JD official bootleg, Lp, Preston Warehouse, [single LP], which has this song on it. great sound on that one [don't have the Part 2 of the 2 LP preston set, so i can't comment on that part]
i'm not too much of a fan of the "les bains douches" bootleg record... worse sound quality, but chaotic gig...

"closer" is still one of my favourite albums of the 80's.

my uncle lended [lent?] me the LP when i was an impressionable teenager [lol] [i think in the summer of 1999] along with "Here Comes the Warm Jets" by Eno. i used to think 'closer' was so drab and depressing and melancholy. now, not so much... odd, that.

Wow....that was a farkin' piece o'crap.....no troll here....just saying that sucked. Rare TV appearance? Well no shiat...who would want that smegma on their show?

i love the drummer... forget his name... so unique, so great.
[one of my fav. drummers of the 80's along with Stewart Copeland, Omar Hakim, Pick Withers, etc.]
nice they made

Hook was great too.... Bernard Sumner was a good guitarist, fit the band its sound very well, not the most technically excellent guitarist, but every melody line he played just plain FIT.

is it wrong that I'm laughing at Ian twitching?


/yes, for entertainment I did watch his body twitch.

Third_Uncle_Eno: i love this song.
i have the JD official bootleg, Lp, Preston Warehouse, [single LP], which has this song on it. great sound on that one [don't have the Part 2 of the 2 LP preston set, so i can't comment on that part]
i'm not too much of a fan of the "les bains douches" bootleg record... worse sound quality, but chaotic gig...

"closer" is still one of my favourite albums of the 80's.

my uncle lended [lent?] me the LP when i was an impressionable teenager [lol] [i think in the summer of 1999] along with "Here Comes the Warm Jets" by Eno. i used to think 'closer' was so drab and depressing and melancholy. now, not so much... odd, that.

since you asked: the word you were seeking was "loaned".

I wouldn't call the appearance "rare" - Tony Wilson afforded them exposure most bands weren't privy to.
Also - the dual Peel Sessions have been available in the US for years, and the import of Still (the only JD recording with a clearly drunk Ian Curtis) and a live "Sister Ray" from the Moonlight. Spend the money, it's worth it.

Warpigpen:

Wow....that was a farkin' piece o'crap.....no troll here....just saying that sucked. Rare TV appearance? Well no shiat...who would want that smegma on their show?

A brief google search reveals warpigpens true identity:

quintas: Warpigpen: Wow....that was a farkin' piece o'crap.....no troll here....just saying that sucked. Rare TV appearance? Well no shiat...who would want that smegma on their show?


A brief google search reveals warpigpens true identity:

A tip o' the brim from me to you for that hearty chuckle.

Third_Uncle_Eno: i love the drummer... forget his name... so unique, so great.
[one of my fav. drummers of the 80's along with Stewart Copeland, Omar Hakim, Pick Withers, etc.]

stephen morris

i recommend the grant gee directed documentary released last year. great film.

DJ El Macho:

i recommend the grant gee directed documentary released last year. great film.

Seconded.

Oooh...ouch...I might never recover from that one. The song/video/band still suck. Now if you will excuse me I have Rick Astley cued up and only 26 minutes to get to the gym.

Oooh...ouch...I might never recover from that one. The song/video/band still suck. Now if you will excuse me I have Rick Astley cued up and only 26 minutes to get to the gym

to each his own. Perhaps you'd prefer their later stuff when they had more explosions in their videos and sang about chicks and high school.

quintas: Oooh...ouch...I might never recover from that one. The song/video/band still suck. Now if you will excuse me I have Rick Astley cued up and only 26 minutes to get to the gym


to each his own. Perhaps you'd prefer their later stuff when they had more explosions in their videos and sang about chicks and high school.

Exactly...to each his own....and my own says this crap sucks. I am 38....I have been in radio since I was 14. I have played every format out there, and Joy Division is barely a blip on the the radar.....why? Maybe because they are an obscure, boutique band. I have nothing against you liking them....IMHO play some farking Sabbath, or CCR, or Alabama ThunderPussy, or some Elvis....anything but this ear ache of a band.

Warpigpen: quintas: Oooh...ouch...I might never recover from that one. The song/video/band still suck. Now if you will excuse me I have Rick Astley cued up and only 26 minutes to get to the gym


to each his own. Perhaps you'd prefer their later stuff when they had more explosions in their videos and sang about chicks and high school.

Exactly...to each his own....and my own says this crap sucks. I am 38....I have been in radio since I was 14. I have played every format out there, and Joy Division is barely a blip on the the radar.....why? Maybe because they are an obscure, boutique band. I have nothing against you liking them....IMHO play some farking Sabbath, or CCR, or Alabama ThunderPussy, or some Elvis....anything but this ear ache of a band.

Fair enough. Enjoy the rest of your evening.

Warpigpen: quintas: Oooh...ouch...I might never recover from that one. The song/video/band still suck. Now if you will excuse me I have Rick Astley cued up and only 26 minutes to get to the gym


to each his own. Perhaps you'd prefer their later stuff when they had more explosions in their videos and sang about chicks and high school.

Exactly...to each his own....and my own says this crap sucks. I am 38....I have been in radio since I was 14. I have played every format out there, and Joy Division is barely a blip on the the radar.....why? Maybe because they are an obscure, boutique band. I have nothing against you liking them....IMHO play some farking Sabbath, or CCR, or Alabama ThunderPussy, or some Elvis....anything but this ear ache of a band.


then wtf are you doing posting your bullshiat here? you, my friend, are a loser to the nth degree.

japancakes
yes thank you, "loaned" was the word i was looking for.
i guess the old brain wasn't working right lol

DJ El Macho:

i recommend the grant gee directed documentary released last year. great film.

whoa... a documentary?
oh wait, do you mean "Control" ?

DirkValentine: Warpigpen: quintas: Oooh...ouch...I might never recover from that one. The song/video/band still suck. Now if you will excuse me I have Rick Astley cued up and only 26 minutes to get to the gym


to each his own. Perhaps you'd prefer their later stuff when they had more explosions in their videos and sang about chicks and high school.

Exactly...to each his own....and my own says this crap sucks. I am 38....I have been in radio since I was 14. I have played every format out there, and Joy Division is barely a blip on the the radar.....why? Maybe because they are an obscure, boutique band. I have nothing against you liking them....IMHO play some farking Sabbath, or CCR, or Alabama ThunderPussy, or some Elvis....anything but this ear ache of a band.


then wtf are you doing posting your bullshiat here? you, my friend, are a loser to the nth degree.

But he's been "in radio" since he was 14. Better back off.

quintas: Warpigpen: quintas: Oooh...ouch...I might never recover from that one. The song/video/band still suck. Now if you will excuse me I have Rick Astley cued up and only 26 minutes to get to the gym


to each his own. Perhaps you'd prefer their later stuff when they had more explosions in their videos and sang about chicks and high school.

Exactly...to each his own....and my own says this crap sucks. I am 38....I have been in radio since I was 14. I have played every format out there, and Joy Division is barely a blip on the the radar.....why? Maybe because they are an obscure, boutique band. I have nothing against you liking them....IMHO play some farking Sabbath, or CCR, or Alabama ThunderPussy, or some Elvis....anything but this ear ache of a band.

Fair enough. Enjoy the rest of your evening.

You deserve a beer from my Keg-a-rator.....pint or big ass? Tonight's selection is Sam Adams.

Warpigpen: IMHO play some farking Sabbath, or CCR, or Alabama ThunderPussy, or some Elvis....anything but this ear ache of a band.


OK, I was all about the whole "to each his own" thing, but those bands are equally atrocious. But, I'm younger, and with adequate head trauma and exposure to NASCAR, my opinion may change eventually.

Warpigpen: quintas: Warpigpen: quintas: Oooh...ouch...I might never recover from that one. The song/video/band still suck. Now if you will excuse me I have Rick Astley cued up and only 26 minutes to get to the gym


to each his own. Perhaps you'd prefer their later stuff when they had more explosions in their videos and sang about chicks and high school.

Exactly...to each his own....and my own says this crap sucks. I am 38....I have been in radio since I was 14. I have played every format out there, and Joy Division is barely a blip on the the radar.....why? Maybe because they are an obscure, boutique band. I have nothing against you liking them....IMHO play some farking Sabbath, or CCR, or Alabama ThunderPussy, or some Elvis....anything but this ear ache of a band.

Fair enough. Enjoy the rest of your evening.

You deserve a beer from my Keg-a-rator.....pint or big ass? Tonight's selection is Sam Adams.

I only drink boutique wines. Thanks for the offer,though.

quintas: DirkValentine: Warpigpen: quintas: Oooh...ouch...I might never recover from that one. The song/video/band still suck. Now if you will excuse me I have Rick Astley cued up and only 26 minutes to get to the gym


to each his own. Perhaps you'd prefer their later stuff when they had more explosions in their videos and sang about chicks and high school.

Exactly...to each his own....and my own says this crap sucks. I am 38....I have been in radio since I was 14. I have played every format out there, and Joy Division is barely a blip on the the radar.....why? Maybe because they are an obscure, boutique band. I have nothing against you liking them....IMHO play some farking Sabbath, or CCR, or Alabama ThunderPussy, or some Elvis....anything but this ear ache of a band.


then wtf are you doing posting your bullshiat here? you, my friend, are a loser to the nth degree.

But he's been "in radio" since he was 14. Better back off.

dude, i TOTALLY get what you're saying!

b/c radio is such a bastion of music.

quintas: Warpigpen: quintas: Warpigpen: quintas: Oooh...ouch...I might never recover from that one. The song/video/band still suck. Now if you will excuse me I have Rick Astley cued up and only 26 minutes to get to the gym


to each his own. Perhaps you'd prefer their later stuff when they had more explosions in their videos and sang about chicks and high school.

Exactly...to each his own....and my own says this crap sucks. I am 38....I have been in radio since I was 14. I have played every format out there, and Joy Division is barely a blip on the the radar.....why? Maybe because they are an obscure, boutique band. I have nothing against you liking them....IMHO play some farking Sabbath, or CCR, or Alabama ThunderPussy, or some Elvis....anything but this ear ache of a band.

Fair enough. Enjoy the rest of your evening.

You deserve a beer from my Keg-a-rator.....pint or big ass? Tonight's selection is Sam Adams.

I only drink boutique wines. Thanks for the offer,though.

Too-shay...might I recommend (new window) something from my cellar?

Third_Uncle_Eno: japancakes
yes thank you, "loaned" was the word i was looking for.
i guess the old brain wasn't working right lol

It's copacetic. Been there a-plenty. Hell, some days I LIVE there.

DJ El Macho:

i recommend the grant gee directed documentary released last year. great film.

whoa... a documentary?
oh wait, do you mean "Control" ?

Yes. Or at least that's the film *I* had in mind anyway.

Japancakes: Third_Uncle_Eno: japancakes
yes thank you, "loaned" was the word i was looking for.
i guess the old brain wasn't working right lol

It's copacetic. Been there a-plenty. Hell, some days I LIVE there.

DJ El Macho:

i recommend the grant gee directed documentary released last year. great film.

whoa... a documentary?
oh wait, do you mean "Control" ?

Yes. Or at least that's the film *I* had in mind anyway.

are you a Japancakes fan?

awesomeJapancakes: DirkValentine:

are you a Japancakes fan?

Oh, Belmondo, if I could see Dallas now, I'd be sleepy strange instead of downing the elements for the machines giving loveless emotions during the waking hours.

awesome.

did you know that the album waking hours is all just a jam in D?

i love those guys. really do.

DirkValentine: awesomeJapancakes: DirkValentine:

are you a Japancakes fan?

Oh, Belmondo, if I could see Dallas now, I'd be sleepy strange instead of downing the elements for the machines giving loveless emotions during the waking hours.

awesome.

did you know that the album waking hours is all just a jam in D?

i love those guys. really do.

Oh. Yes.
I do so very much do as well.

Love the band. Very good performance.

canadian fark chad koreoger... someone keep me company agbe­cke­ttwa­h­s­ca seriosuly im depressd..............

Japancakes: DirkValentine: awesomeJapancakes: DirkValentine:

are you a Japancakes fan?

Oh, Belmondo, if I could see Dallas now, I'd be sleepy strange instead of downing the elements for the machines giving loveless emotions during the waking hours.

awesome.

did you know that the album waking hours is all just a jam in D?

i love those guys. really do.

Oh. Yes.
I do so very much do as well.

as do i i do, very so much i like them lots much me like so i do.

do.

DirkValentine: Japancakes: DirkValentine: awesomeJapancakes: DirkValentine:

are you a Japancakes fan?

Oh, Belmondo, if I could see Dallas now, I'd be sleepy strange instead of downing the elements for the machines giving loveless emotions during the waking hours.

awesome.

did you know that the album waking hours is all just a jam in D?

i love those guys. really do.

Oh. Yes.
I do so very much do as well.

as do i i do, very so much i like them lots much me like so i do.

do.

Har! It was amusing to me that my iPod was putting the finishing touches to "If I could See Dallas" o.p. came in.

"when your o.p. came in".

a little threadjack

in the last month, any good music you've sucked up?

if i was playing the stock market with the luck i've had, i'd be a criminal

Warpigpen: Exactly...to each his own....and my own says this crap sucks. I am 38....I have been in radio since I was 14.

Hey dude, is it possible that we could exchange information? Because when I'm 38, if I'm on internet forums arguing about music being a "piece o'crap" I want to to come find me, and shoot me in the face.

DirkValentine: a little threadjack

in the last month, any good music you've sucked up?

if i was playing the stock market with the luck i've had, i'd be a criminal

Are you looking for new artists or established? Both? I can recommend stuff from the dawn of recorded music to the (relatively) recent.

i'm saying, in the past month, what , have, you...: got/heard that is? good?

i'm always looking for good stuff.

That's I want you to come find me.


HappyHarryHardOn: took me years before I finally got to read all of IAN's lyrics, which I could never make out... first time I read that , I was like "Are you shiatting me?" ... they read like one long apologetic suicide letter ... "Isolation" is so freaking sad

Same thing for me. I was never really into their music until I sat down and read their lyrics. My jaw dropped. I'm thinking to myself, a 22, 23 year old kid should NOT be feeling this way. I'm amazed his band members, friends, whoever, didn't see the warning signs coming.

Songs like Isolation, Dead Souls, Ceremony, Love Will Tear Us Apart are some deep, heavy and serious shiat. My girlfriend cant even listen to the music because now that she knows the words, it disturbs her too much. She says its like listening someone's suicide note set to music.

I hate Joy Division covers (with the exception of Radiohead's cove of Ceremony) but I think this girl (new window) does an AMAZING job with Love Will Tear Us Apart. Really puts the emphasis on the lyrics (about his failing relationship with his wife), which, hard to understand in the original, are farking bone chilling. Especially when you consider that he killed himself a few months later. AND he was only 23 years old when he wrote this.

Lots of people write angsty, angry break up songs around that age. But this shiat is more intense than that. Ian, obviously, wasn't faking it. This kid was in a lot of pain.

Its farking insane.

example:

in the last month i picked up

new magnetic fields
superaquello - bien gorgeous
her space holiday - home is where you hang yourslef
american analog set - know by heart

The last five purchases that I liked enough to dare suggest that someone else might like them as well:

(really, they are the only ones I've made thus far this year [and I only bought them because I listened to them all the way through first. You hear me RIAA? I don't buy until I listen. I don't listen unless there's a process by which I'm allowed to do just that very thing. That's why I utilize Napsterclones.])

Ahem. Anyway, enough with the prelude:

"A Woman a man walked by" by PJ Harvey & John Paris
"Sweetheart 2005" by Madeleine Peyroux
"The Complete Chess Masters: 1950-1967" by Little Walter
"Middle Cyclone" by Neko Case
"Still Dangerous: Live at Tower Theatre Philadelphia 1977" by Thin Lizzy
"It's Blitz" by Yeah Yeah Yeahs

Back to Joy Division, I've heard there was an audience bootleg of their live performance of Ceremony that has Ian's complete vocals on it (though shiatty quality). Anyone know where I can get this?

organizm: Back to Joy Division, I've heard there was an audience bootleg of their live performance of Ceremony that has Ian's complete vocals on it (though shiatty quality). Anyone know where I can get this?

napsterclones.

Japancakes: The last five purchases that I liked enough to dare suggest that someone else might like them as well:

(really, they are the only ones I've made thus far this year [and I only bought them because I listened to them all the way through first. You hear me RIAA? I don't buy until I listen. I don't listen unless there's a process by which I'm allowed to do just that very thing. That's why I utilize Napsterclones.])

Ahem. Anyway, enough with the prelude:

"A Woman a man walked by" by PJ Harvey & John Paris
"Sweetheart 2005" by Madeleine Peyroux
"The Complete Chess Masters: 1950-1967" by Little Walter
"Middle Cyclone" by Neko Case
"Still Dangerous: Live at Tower Theatre Philadelphia 1977" by Thin Lizzy
"It's Blitz" by Yeah Yeah Yeahs

can i recommend Her Space Holiday? Manic Expressive is completely great.

CDirkValentine: Japancakes: The last five purchases that I liked enough to dare suggest that someone else might like them as well:

(really, they are the only ones I've made thus far this year [and I only bought them because I listened to them all the way through first. You hear me RIAA? I don't buy until I listen. I don't listen unless there's a process by which I'm allowed to do just that very thing. That's why I utilize Napsterclones.])

Ahem. Anyway, enough with the prelude:

"A Woman a man walked by" by PJ Harvey & John Paris
"Sweetheart 2005" by Madeleine Peyroux
"The Complete Chess Masters: 1950-1967" by Little Walter
"Middle Cyclone" by Neko Case
"Still Dangerous: Live at Tower Theatre Philadelphia 1977" by Thin Lizzy
"It's Blitz" by Yeah Yeah Yeahs

can i recommend Her Space Holiday? Manic Expressive is completely great.

Certainly. As long as you'll allow me to take this time to amend the spelling of Ms. Harvey's collaborator to John ParisH.

you are forgiven.

let me know if you check that out, like it or not

DirkValentine: you are forgiven.

let me know if you check that out, like it or not

As I'm always on the lookout for new musical acts to give an objective listen to, I thank you for the ones you've given.

If I'm not mistaken, I believe this clip is from the movie "Urge A Music War". If you like this type of music, try to find this movie. Some highlights include, Echo and the Bunnymen, Devo, Gary Numan, The Police and many others. The movie came out in the early 80's and its all live music.

Third_Uncle_Eno: DJ El Macho:

i recommend the grant gee directed documentary released last year. great film.

whoa... a documentary?
oh wait, do you mean "Control" ?

No, there was a documentary released called "joy division"

"control" was a biopic released by Ian Curtis' wife. "joy division" was made by the band.