How does *ANYONE* find these Christian arguments compelling?

DamnYankees: How does *ANYONE* find these Christian arguments compelling?

Compelling, no. Entertaining, hell yes. I love how at the end he tries to make the point that someone wanting to live how ever they want is a bad thing. Pretty sure there was a country that was founded on those principles.

Good question!

If God gave me the ability to think for myself and live my life as I wish, shouldn't I obey him and do so?

Why do the fudies think that atheists secretly believe in god and are simply mad at him? I tend to think that the average atheist has far fewer questions about the existence of god than the average religious person. They really have to bury their heads in the sand and hum at the same time to believe that the earth is 6000 years old and Noah put 2 of every animal on a boat.

swaniefrmreddeer: Why do the fudies think that atheists secretly believe in god and are simply mad at him? I tend to think that the average atheist has far fewer questions about the existence of god than the average religious person. They really have to bury their heads in the sand and hum at the same time to believe that the earth is 6000 years old and Noah put 2 of every animal on a boat.

It's because the final and hardest step of truly accepting that you were created by some sort of sky magician is forgiving him for putting you in this awful place.

You don't hear about that part of conversion much, but, that's probably why.

/agnostic

At first I thought:

1. Who thought it would be a good idea for Christian radio to adopt the shock jock format?
2. Why did Christopher Hitchens think it would be a good idea to appear on such a program?

I listened to it, anyway - and it was fun to listen to Hitch to make a fool of the host and the format.

Klingon Penis: 2. Why did Christopher Hitchens think it would be a good idea to appear on such a program?

He does it for fun. And he handles it better than anyone. I think the better question is why any Christian radio host thought this would go well for anyone but Hitchens.

DamnYankees: Klingon Penis: 2. Why did Christopher Hitchens think it would be a good idea to appear on such a program?

He does it for fun. And he handles it better than anyone. I think the better question is why any Christian radio host thought this would go well for anyone but Hitchens.

I would think a fundamentalist Christian is capable of deluding him or herself on many levels.

DamnYankees: Klingon Penis: 2. Why did Christopher Hitchens think it would be a good idea to appear on such a program?

He does it for fun. And he handles it better than anyone. I think the better question is why any Christian radio host thought this would go well for anyone but Hitchens.

THIS.

Hitchens is journalism incarnate. surly, hateful, nigh-perpetually drunk, half-mad, scary smart, and always asking questions. his appearance on Penn & Teller's Bulls**t is one of the high points for that show. matter of fact, gonna go watch that on YouTube now, y'all have fun.

I do wish Hitch thought as clearly on Iraq as he does on religion, but I doubt his opinions would've influenced anyone in power on the matter.

christianity, as preached by the evangelicals, is directly opposed to democracy. 'lord' indeed. people fought and died so that we wouldnt have to be ruled under a 'king.'

DamnYankees: How does *ANYONE* find these Christian arguments compelling?

Klingon Penis: I do wish Hitch thought as clearly on Iraq as he does on religion, but I doubt his opinions would've influenced anyone in power on the matter.

Hitchens doesn't think clearly on religion. He's the atheist equivalent of Pat Robertson--shrill, intolerant, thinks he's better than everyone else.

This is politics?

Forgive them. The grip of the death cult is strong.

Bestbank Tiger: Klingon Penis: I do wish Hitch thought as clearly on Iraq as he does on religion, but I doubt his opinions would've influenced anyone in power on the matter.

Hitchens doesn't think clearly on religion. He's the atheist equivalent of Pat Robertson--shrill, intolerant, thinks he's better than everyone else.

So he is a typical atheist, eh?

Phil Herup: This is politics?

Both religion and politics are designed to tell others what to do/think, so they're one and the same.

Phil Herup: This is politics?

It became politics the second Christianity decided it had to but it's ignorant nose in every aspect of our lives and government.

Phil Herup: This is politics?

Hmmm I may have to agree with you on this one. Perhaps this should go under the geek tab, or business, since religion is pretty profitable.

Contents of a Space Wasp's stomach: Bestbank Tiger: Klingon Penis: I do wish Hitch thought as clearly on Iraq as he does on religion, but I doubt his opinions would've influenced anyone in power on the matter.

Hitchens doesn't think clearly on religion. He's the atheist equivalent of Pat Robertson--shrill, intolerant, thinks he's better than everyone else.

So he is a typical atheist xtain, eh?

FTFY

DJ- "So you've committed murder in your heart."

WHAT? He committed murder because he was angry at someone in his lifetime? Who the hell is this guy?

Contents of a Space Wasp's stomach: So he is a typical atheist, eh?

No. He's an atheist that happens to be a huge cock. Same a lot of Christians. But my wife is a devout Lutheran and I am agnostic on my most spiritual of days, and I'd like to think neither one of us assholes beyond our occasional dickish moment. So I'd like to believe that neither side as a monopoly on idiotic and douchy behavior.

Bestbank Tiger: Hitchens doesn't think clearly on religion. He's the atheist equivalent of Pat Robertson--shrill, intolerant, thinks he's better than everyone else.

Are you shooting the message or the messenger there, chum?

Groover McToober: Contents of a Space Wasp's stomach: Bestbank Tiger: Klingon Penis: I do wish Hitch thought as clearly on Iraq as he does on religion, but I doubt his opinions would've influenced anyone in power on the matter.

Hitchens doesn't think clearly on religion. He's the atheist equivalent of Pat Robertson--shrill, intolerant, thinks he's better than everyone else.

So he is a typical atheist xtain, eh?

FTFY

The self professed and vehement atheists are no better than xtians. They are all dipshiats.

By the way, everyone can take this "test" at Kirk Cameron's website.

Link (new window)

Click on "are you a good person?"

DamnYankees: How does *ANYONE* find these Christian arguments compelling?

Everyone was three years old at one point.

That's how they get you.

Groover McToober: The grip of the death cult is strong.





Later became just "The Cult"... who flat out ROCK.

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Bestbank Tiger: Klingon Penis: I do wish Hitch thought as clearly on Iraq as he does on religion, but I doubt his opinions would've influenced anyone in power on the matter.

Hitchens doesn't think clearly on religion. He's the atheist equivalent of Pat Robertson--shrill, intolerant, thinks he's better than everyone else.

He fills you with doubt huh

El Morro: DJ- "So you've committed murder in your heart."

WHAT? He committed murder because he was angry at someone in his lifetime? Who the hell is this guy?

That's what I was wondering, I don't think there's a person on the planet who hasn't broken all of the commandments by his definition.

Coelacanth: Gods wants respect, not slaves.

You gotta earn respect.

I have a hard time respecting an imaginary friend who hypothetically drowned the entire human race and then threatens the ones who don't "respect" him with eternal damnation.

That's just rude.

6/10, Bestbank. Keep trying.

Coelacanth: Gods wants respect, not slaves.

Until I know if you're being sarcastic, I don't want to respond to this with substance.

DamnYankees: By the way, everyone can take this "test" at Kirk Cameron's website.

Link (new window)

Click on "are you a good person?"

I failed that one miserably. But if it pisses off Kirk Cameron, I think I can live with it.

This heretic Jock does quite a disservice to Christianity.

Contents of a Space Wasp's stomach: Groover McToober: Contents of a Space Wasp's stomach: Bestbank Tiger: Klingon Penis: I do wish Hitch thought as clearly on Iraq as he does on religion, but I doubt his opinions would've influenced anyone in power on the matter.

Hitchens doesn't think clearly on religion. He's the atheist equivalent of Pat Robertson--shrill, intolerant, thinks he's better than everyone else.

So he is a typical atheist xtain, eh?

FTFY

The self professed and vehement atheists are no better than xtians. They are all dipshiats.

Most atheists don't want to proclaim their lack of religious beliefs in any forum, but religion has been poisoning politics and classrooms for some time now and we felt compelled to act.

brainiac-dumdum: Contents of a Space Wasp's stomach: Groover McToober: Contents of a Space Wasp's stomach: Bestbank Tiger: Klingon Penis: I do wish Hitch thought as clearly on Iraq as he does on religion, but I doubt his opinions would've influenced anyone in power on the matter.

Hitchens doesn't think clearly on religion. He's the atheist equivalent of Pat Robertson--shrill, intolerant, thinks he's better than everyone else.

So he is a typical atheist xtain, eh?

FTFY

The self professed and vehement atheists are no better than xtians. They are all dipshiats.

Most atheists don't want to proclaim their lack of religious beliefs in any forum, but religion has been poisoning politics and classrooms for some time now and we felt compelled to act.

Funny, I bet a lot of Christians say that about secularism.

Contents of a Space Wasp's stomach Funny, I bet a lot of Christians say that about secularism.

The comparison is not valid, secularism is written into our Constitution.

don't forget Kirk's "Atheists nightmare", the banana. Link (new window)
Now a wild banana
Looks like humans sped up evolution to me.

Contents of a Space Wasp's stomach:
The self professed and vehement atheists are no better than xtians. They are all dipshiats.


I am a self-professed atheist. Who else is qualified to profess what I do or do not believe? I am quite "vehement" in my assertion that any claims have to be supported by evidence before I will accept them as valid.

And I am certain that I have never done anything to you that would warrant you calling me a dipshiat. Therefore, yours was a completely unprovoked attack.

I'm reasonably convinced that I really am a better person than the type of person who insults strangers for no reason.

Contents of a Space Wasp's stomach: Funny, I bet a lot of Christians say that about secularism.

False equivalency. When secular government supports say "no prayer in schools," they don't say you can't pray in school. Just that you can't force people to do it as an organized prayer. What the religious numbskulls want is for everyone to pray, and those who don't to be forced to under some misguided idea that the 1950's and 60's were some sort of holy utopia where nothing bad happened and all of our ills are tied to the lack of "God" in our lives.

lol
Host: "So you've broken the commandment of adultery, correct, sir?"
CH: "None of your f***ing business."
Host: "Alrighty.

Ah, good stuff.
Hitchens is a pain in the ass, but that dj was a huge bucket of rotting stupid.

swaniefrmreddeer: don't forget Kirk's "Atheists nightmare", the banana. Link (new window)
Now a wild banana
Looks like humans sped up evolution to me.

I've always loled at that one.
Talk about pwned.

DamnYankees: By the way, everyone can take this "test" at Kirk Cameron's website.

Link (new window)

Click on "are you a good person?"

I tried, but at question one I realized that I'm not a good person, or at least, not good enough for their quiz. Let's face it, I have sex for fun, I'm a pagan with pagan tattoos, I watched two gay guys have gay sex in a baptismal pool, I've broken 9 of the 10 commandments, and that only counts if it was 'directly' killing someone. Indirectly, however, might be a 'yes'. Last time I was in a church I demanded an explanation of how the hell Adam and Eve could be the only people on earth, have two sons, only two sons, and for them to have gotten married, then I warned him that after answering that question I was going to pull out the science books in my car and we were going to tackle that flood issue.

swaniefrmreddeer: Why do the fudies think that atheists secretly believe in god and are simply mad at him?

Probably because of the atheists that are just lashing out at their "Christian" parents. The ones that go around saying "lol xtians are stupid; atheists are smrt." The ones that are atheists as a reaction to Christians instead of having just come to the conclusion on their own.

I believe those atheists to be in the minority. Just like I hope (and pray) the evangelical r-tards are in the minority of Christians. But both sides point to these people on the other side and say "SEE?!! They're WRONG!"

swaniefrmreddeer: don't forget Kirk's "Atheists nightmare", the banana. Link (new window)
Now a wild banana
Looks like humans sped up evolution to me.

My hand is also perfectly shaped for a penis. So is my mouth. I guess God intended us to be gay.

or

The banana is also perfectly shaped for a monkey's mouth, hand, and so forth. I guess God intended us to be cousins after all.

Either way, that idiot is full of fail.

Shadowknight: DamnYankees: By the way, everyone can take this "test" at Kirk Cameron's website.

Link (new window)

Click on "are you a good person?"

I failed that one miserably. But if it pisses off Kirk Cameron, I think I can live with it.


And herein lies the big difference between Jewish Morality and Christian Morality, at least from a theological prospective.

Jewish theology takes the position that everybody has the potential to be a good person. The ten commandments are a list of things that people can do to be a good person.

Christian theology takes the position that nobody has the potential to be a good person. Everybody is a sinner because of original sin. Kirk Cameron's view of the ten commandments extrapolates each commandment out such that no one could possibly live by them. For example, the prohibition against murder is widened to encompass simply being angry at another person.

If everybody is a sinner and can't possibly even attain a tiny modicum of goodness because of humanity's fallen state/original sin, then what's the point of trying to be a good person... especially since accepting Jesus as Lord means you're going to heaven anyway.

At least, that's one athiest/lapsed Jew's perspective on the matter .

I didn't ask to be made. Screw you God. I'm my own boss.