Cheap Trick does not rock in anyway. Furthermore, Rush and Kiss farking suck.

/I approve of this Fail tag

Def Leppard and Motley Crue? eh, not so much. In my mind, your band doesn't just have to be 25 years old, but also relevant 25 years later. Kiss barely scrapes by using this measure.

Christi: Cheap Trick does not rock in anyway.

Neither does Madonna, Grandmaster Flash, Leonard Cohen or Run DMC yet they have all been inducted. Whether or not you like them, Cheap Trick (and a lot of the bands mentioned in the linked article) played a big role by influencing other rock bands and that should be enough to get them into the Hall.

They use Hysteria to justify Def Leppards inclusion? How about Pyromania instead. That album wasn't nearly as bubbly gummy as Hysteria. On Through The Night was great too.

Oh yes, and get Ozzy in there NOW!

Good list.
The fact that any of these bands/artists aren't in just proves how much of a joke the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame really is.

Iron Maiden is the only one I'd put in if I were in charge. Motörhead, I guess. I hate Rush.

Those were some great sentences with that there list. The arguments, not too convincing. Who greenlit this shiat?

SLAYER!

Lists like these should simply be titled "10 bands that should be in the Rock and Roll hall of fame." Drop that pesky "top" part.

How about....i don't know...WHO GIVES A SHIAT about being inducted. The whole idea of a hall of fame goes against everything i know about rock, who needs a bunch of old suck-ups telling you that you contributed to music? fark that

Christi: Cheap Trick does not rock in anyway. Furthermore, Rush and Kiss farking suck.

Doesn't matter if they suck. Matters what impression they made on rock and roll. Kiss' impression is huge. Music might suck but their performance influenced everyone after them. Doesn't matter how many albums Rush sold - they are the among the most important progressive rock band. All of the genres should be respected in the hall of fame and prog rock has not been respected yet. Genesis should probably in there for this reason. Imo, that's also why Def Leppard should be respected. Of all hair metal bands circa 1983-1992, they were #1 in popularity/influence.

Outisde of possibly Alice Cooper, all the other bands on this last seem derivative, including Crüe and Ozzy, whom I love.

I personally think the HoF farked up by not inducting The Ramones the SECOND they were eligible. They were one of the single biggest influences on current music. No Ramones, no punk. No punk, no post-punk, no new wave, no goth, no industrial, no alternative, no emo/pop-punk...pretty much no rock music as we know it today. The only genre that influences rock more today is metal.

The big three NWOBHM (Maiden, Priest, Motörhead) should be in, but besides them, no.

Mojo Nixon wrote a song called "Rock n' Roll Hall of Shame" and he nailed it right. Even Johnny Rotten acknowledges Alice Cooper's influence on punk, along with Iggy. And no Deep Purple, no Genesis or Tull? Is Zappa in yet?

Pete, meet repeat (new window)

yeah, different page but same damn story.

napalm death has been together since 1982... and they will NEVER get love. neither will slayer.
judas priest got inducted, right? farkin' better have.
/metal haters

SPna15: The big three NWOBHM (Maiden, Priest, Motörhead) should be in, but besides them, no.

I would add Ozzy, just for his promotion of metal, metal shows, and sick guitarists.

Also, it just occurred to me that I have never heard an Iron Maiden song on the radio...

Preferred Nomenclature: How about....i don't know...WHO GIVES A SHIAT about being inducted. The whole idea of a hall of fame goes against everything i know about rock, who needs a bunch of old suck-ups telling you that you contributed to music? fark that

Came here to say this. Who cares what whoever picks the people that get in think? That isn't very rock or metal...

Silovik: it just occurred to me that I have never heard an Iron Maiden song on the radio

Surely you can't be serious.

Whatthefark: Silovik: it just occurred to me that I have never heard an Iron Maiden song on the radio

Surely you can't be serious.

Serious...Maiden is easily my favourite band, I would have it cranked if any song came on. If Rime of the Ancient Mariner ever came on over the airways I could die happy.

Fondle Corpse and Vomit Remnants should be on that list.

yes , and don't call him Shirley.

if you were 13 and lived in/around LA in the early 80's , The Crue was the shiat . up until dumass ( not to be confused with DuMass from dream a little dream )left to drive race cars , they were the best hair metal . they looked like biatches and still had some of the best music out there . i agree with the whole list cuz ALL the bands on it had some good shiat .

None of these people are welcome in Jann Wenner's snobby fraternity.

Wenner has already said he would like to cease having inductions because he thinks there are already too many people inducted.

ihatedumbpeople: Pete, meet repeat (new window)

yeah, different page but same damn story.

"Ten worthy bands snubbed by the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame T-Shirt (304)"
"Clicked 6948 times; posted to Music on Thu, 09 Apr 2009 at 5:57 AM"



That would be why. Advertisers like that shiat.

jiaxiaobo: Christi: Cheap Trick does not rock in anyway. Furthermore, Rush and Kiss farking suck.

Doesn't matter if they suck. Matters what impression they made on rock and roll. Kiss' impression is huge. Music might suck but their performance influenced everyone after them. Doesn't matter how many albums Rush sold - they are the among the most important progressive rock band. All of the genres should be respected in the hall of fame and prog rock has not been respected yet. Genesis should probably in there for this reason. Imo, that's also why Def Leppard should be respected. Of all hair metal bands circa 1983-1992, they were #1 in popularity/influence.

Outisde of possibly Alice Cooper, all the other bands on this last seem derivative, including Crüe and Ozzy, whom I love.

Motorhead derivative? JP derivative? But Def Leppard should be respected?

Fail is not a strong enough description.

/Please don't hit me with your purse.

Just metal fans would have inducted Alice Cooper? Come On, fans of almost all genres should want them (yes, not him as a solo artist. I love him now, but the band was the best) in. The influence Alice Cooper had in theatrics, and style alone is fame worthy. Of course the've been snubbed, half new rockers that are being inducted owe some credit to Alice.

godofusa.com: SLAYER!

agreed. If you have metallica you may as well put the heavier slightly more satanic thrash gods in.

I also think that if a band (YES) basically invents a genre of music (Progressive rock) that is still thriving today, you should be in the HOF. King Crimson, Genesis, Moody Blues as well.

The Moody Blues are not in?Oh come on!

Considering the induction ceremony was last weekend, this would have been a great article to read then. Now? Well... now I just don't care.

I am loving the Alice Cooper love in here. :)

Alice is an amazing artist, and the discography from band to solo artist is amazing. The range of styles and sounds goes from punk (which he is the godfather of), metal, rock, blues, country....just about everything including hip-hop collaborations.

Johnny Rotten acknowledges Alice. David Bowie said Alice was the inspiration for Ziggy. KISS obviously owe a lot to Alice, as does Manson. Metallica even stated that Alice should be in there. Name any metal/rock band from 1975 on and there is some Alice influence, whether they admit it or not. Even Michael Jackson took a hint from Alice when he had Vincent Price do a voiceover on Thriller. Alice did that on Welcome to My Nightmare.

The man has done nothing but rock. Never held any other job but that of a singer in a long haired rock and roll band. This has been his life since he first heard the Beatles and Stones. The fact that he still puts out amazing albums (Along Came A Spider IS amazing, check it out) and tours with the complete stage show, and sells out the venues each time, is a testament to the man's skills and genius. People go to a Cooper show, they get the full on experience.

The production, the vaudeville, the music, and the classics.

Getting into the hall of fame is a bit anti-rock/metal, but if anyone deserves to be in there it is Alice of all people. Him and the original band, cause I doubt Alice would accept without his buddies being inducted as well.

FTFA: Judas Priest are legends, 'nuff said..

That is all.

Three-Headed Dog:
Motorhead derivative? JP derivative? But Def Leppard should be respected?

Fail is not a strong enough description.

/Please don't hit me with your purse.

Motorhead is a one-hit wonder. Lemmy looks/seems like a badass, but besides Ace of Spades, what does the average person know of them. Did they add anything to rock? No.

Maybe you can make a case for Priest or Maiden. However, like Silovik said, when's the last time you heard Priest or Maiden on the radio? Almost never. To be in the Hall of Fame you should be overwhelming in influence and popularity or be undeniably ground-breaking or the paradigm of a huge genre in rock. There is no other album like Def Leppard's Hysteria, and the best of the hair metal genre. Besides maybe GnR, Metallica and Slayer, every rock band between '83-'92 was trying to write that album. Does that make me a fag for recognizing this? If you're 30+, you loved that album, too. Admit it.

Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, and Motorhead are 3 metal bands that definitely deserve to be inducted into the HoF. All 3 of them were hugely influential on not just metal, but rock & roll in general.

Alice Cooper and KISS are not metal bands, they're hard rock. However, they were both very influential on metal artists and should also be inducted.

Slayer deserves to be inducted, but I doubt that they ever will. Their album "Reign in Blood" was probably the heaviest album ever made at the time it was released, and pretty much created the Death Metal subgenre. However, while metalheads may revere Slayer as gods, mainstream audiences usually find their music to be disturbing and offensive. It's because of this reason that Slayer has a snowball's chance in hell of making it into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.

Megadeth and Anthrax are two other popular and influential thrash metal bands I'd like to see inducted into the Hall of Fame, but it remains to be seen if they ever will.

At some point down the road I'd really like to see Pantera inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. They helped keep thrash metal relevant during the 1990s, a decade when the public had pretty much abandoned metal in favor of grunge, hip-hop, and alternative. Their album "Vulgar Display of Power" is one of the greatest metal albums ever, and even managed to make it to #1 during a time when critics were saying that metal was dead.

Musicology101: I also think that if a band (YES) basically invents a genre of music (Progressive rock) that is still thriving today, you should be in the HOF. King Crimson, Genesis, Moody Blues as well.

One could make the case that The Moody Blues "invented" prog--but in any case, Crimson was the band that defined the genre. Compare In the Court of the Crimson King to YES, Time and a Word, and From Genesis to Revelation. Sure, those last three gave hints of what was to come, but Crimson was full-scale prog from the get-go.

In addition, Crimson even has (reluctant) admirers among the critics' circles. They'll be the first true prog band in the HoF, if any are admitted at all. (Would love to read Fripp's reaction if such a thing occurs.)

Oops, I made a mistake in my last post. "Far Beyond Driven" is actually the Pantera album that made it to #1, not "Vulgar Display of Power."

However, most Pantera fans consider "Vulgar Display of Power" to be Pantera's best album.

GoteamVenture: godofusa.com: SLAYER!

agreed. If you have metallica you may as well put the heavier slightly more satanic thrash gods in.

Except for one problem: Slay is farking boring. They made one decent album, "Reign in Blood" and then just kept making the same inane material over and over. I'd much rather see an inventive band like Fates Warning nominated long before Slayer.

darkjezter: "Reign in Blood" was probably the heaviest album ever made at the time it was released, and pretty much created the Death Metal subgenre.



It did?

MetalMike: Except for one problem: Slay is farking boring. They made one decent album, "Reign in Blood" and then just kept making the same inane material over and over. I'd much rather see an inventive band like Fates Warning nominated long before Slayer.

"Seasons in the Abyss" is another great Slayer album. From a technical standpoint, it's probably the best Slayer album out there, but it wasn't as groundbreaking as "Reign in Blood."

As for influential bands what about The Crazy World of Arthur Brown, Sparks, Savoy Brown, The Nice, Blue Cheer?

why does this article author believe that Cheap Trick is a "metal" band? WTF?

darkjezter: MetalMike: Except for one problem: Slay is farking boring. They made one decent album, "Reign in Blood" and then just kept making the same inane material over and over. I'd much rather see an inventive band like Fates Warning nominated long before Slayer.

"Seasons in the Abyss" is another great Slayer album. From a technical standpoint, it's probably the best Slayer album out there, but it wasn't as groundbreaking as "Reign in Blood."

Very much this. Seasons in the Abyss has a lot of the speed, but also slows a it down considerably so you can appreciate the difference that much more.

unfarkingbelievable:

why does this article author believe that Cheap Trick is a "metal" band? WTF?

He doesn't. Subby took "Hard Rock" out of the headline.

GypsyJoker: Musicology101: I also think that if a band (YES) basically invents a genre of music (Progressive rock) that is still thriving today, you should be in the HOF. King Crimson, Genesis, Moody Blues as well.

One could make the case that The Moody Blues "invented" prog--but in any case, Crimson was the band that defined the genre. Compare In the Court of the Crimson King to YES, Time and a Word, and From Genesis to Revelation. Sure, those last three gave hints of what was to come, but Crimson was full-scale prog from the get-go.

In addition, Crimson even has (reluctant) admirers among the critics' circles. They'll be the first true prog band in the HoF, if any are admitted at all. (Would love to read Fripp's reaction if such a thing occurs.)

I think you would have to go back even further and say that the Beatles with Sgt Pepper/White Album laid the foundation for prog rock.

The R&R Hall of Fame has ceased to have any exclusivity and has devolved into a pure popularity and money fest driven by desperate record labels.

They put it in Cleveland. Has Cleveland ever been considered the birthplace of rock and roll? Chrissie Hynde and Tracy Chapman are the only two musicians I can think that have come from Cleveland (and of course Dean Martin). At least the Baseball hall of fame and Football hall of fame were located in a spot relevant to the genre they honor. But Cleveland??

Silovik: Whatthefark: Silovik: it just occurred to me that I have never heard an Iron Maiden song on the radio

Surely you can't be serious.

Serious...Maiden is easily my favourite band, I would have it cranked if any song came on. If Rime of the Ancient Mariner ever came on over the airways I could die happy. And don't call me Shirley.

FIFY.

/also noticed the lack of Maiden on the airwaves
//except for commercials leading up to the show last week
///awesome show, except for the part where the goons in the EVENT STAFF shirts were telling the people on the floor to put the cameras away or get thrown out of the arena
////why SHOULDN'T they be in the HOF? maybe for the same that their music isn't played on the radio, or did they specifically ask NOT to be inducted?
\if certain musical acts who wouldn't otherwise be in the HOF are in because of "influence," why did Metallica get in the first year that they were eligible while Eddie got snubbed?

jiaxiaobo: Three-Headed Dog:

Motorhead is a one-hit wonder. Lemmy looks/seems like a badass, but besides Ace of Spades, what does the average person know of them. Did they add anything to rock? No.


It doesn't matter if the average person knows of them, a lot of people who went on to make metal after them sure did (including this year's inductees Metallica), they added plenty.

Anyone who can listen to a document like the No Remorse compilation and not think Motorhead is a truly great band just doesn't like rock music (IMO).

jiaxiaobo:

Maybe you can make a case for Priest or Maiden. However, like Silovik said, when's the last time you heard Priest or Maiden on the radio? Almost never. To be in the Hall of Fame you should be overwhelming in influence and popularity or be undeniably ground-breaking or the paradigm of a huge genre in rock. There is no other album like Def Leppard's Hysteria, and the best of the hair metal genre. Besides maybe GnR, Metallica and Slayer, every rock band between '83-'92 was trying to write that album. Does that make me a fag for recognizing this? If you're 30+, you loved that album, too. Admit it.

Def Leppard didn't write Hysteria... Took them many rewrites, and had to give big thanks to Mutt Lange. I'll also point out by 1987, possibly could say 1983... these guys didn't define 'metal'. They have always followed 70s glam.

What merit do I think they belong??? I think High N' Dry is an incredible album, they were one of the first acts on MTV, they were one of the first to sell a million CDs, one of the first to play concerts in the round, two diamond awards for sales, they merchandised shirts, videos, a book, and suffered a death, alcoholism, and limb loss along the way. Their lead guitarist idolized Jimmy Page, Thin Lizzy, and auditioned for the band by playing every part of Freebird by his lonesome. They had the same management as Metallica (Q-Prime - Peter Mensch and Cliff Burnstein), which I hold responsible for a lot of their business success.

However, overall, what did they bring to rock and roll?
Mothers and daughters having to take all their clothes off to meet them under the stage. If that isn't better than the greatest guitar solo, then I don't know what is..

HempHead:
They put it in Cleveland. Has Cleveland ever been considered the birthplace of rock and roll? Chrissie Hynde and Tracy Chapman are the only two musicians I can think that have come from Cleveland (and of course Dean Martin). At least the Baseball hall of fame and Football hall of fame were located in a spot relevant to the genre they honor. But Cleveland??

It's in Cleveland because of Alan Freed, more than anything, isn't it?

And The Dead Boys were from Cleveland too (so is Pere Ubu).

BigSnatch: darkjezter: "Reign in Blood" was probably the heaviest album ever made at the time it was released, and pretty much created the Death Metal subgenre.



It did?

No. It was a thrash album. Not even old-school death. It's arguable, but this was probably the first real death metal album:

HempHead: But Cleveland??

Cheap labor and real estate?

TheTco: HempHead:
They put it in Cleveland. Has Cleveland ever been considered the birthplace of rock and roll? Chrissie Hynde and Tracy Chapman are the only two musicians I can think that have come from Cleveland (and of course Dean Martin). At least the Baseball hall of fame and Football hall of fame were located in a spot relevant to the genre they honor. But Cleveland??

It's in Cleveland because of Alan Freed, more than anything, isn't it?

And The Dead Boys were from Cleveland too (so is Pere Ubu).

Oh, and also, I was also going to say that the Baseball Hall of Fame is in a fictional relevant location. Cooperstown, NY and Abner Doubleday had nothing to do with the invention of baseball. The HOF should by all rights be in Hoboken, NJ!