Jesus, O'Reilly and Beck on the same show talking about the people persecuting them? That's the asshole equivalent of crossing the streams, man.

Bloody William: Jesus, O'Reilly and Beck on the same show talking about the people persecuting them? That's the asshole equivalent of crossing the streams, man.

and to clarify Egon, that would be bad right?

Bloody William: Jesus, O'Reilly and Beck on the same show talking about the people persecuting them? That's the asshole equivalent of crossing the streams, man.

jesus was on the show too?

Megain: jesus was on the show too?

He would have really ripped those two schmucks new assholes.

Yes, blaming you for the hateful message that you spread that is directly responsible for the deaths of innocents means that we are unfairly criticizing you. Fark you and go to hell O'Reilly and Beck.

UNC_Samurai: Megain: jesus was on the show too?

He would have really ripped those two schmucks new assholes.

I doubt they would invite someone who looked Arabic on the show.

GAT_00: is directly responsible for the deaths of innocents

Ridiculous.

These guys are hateful fearmongorers, and no one should listen to them, but to say they are directly responsible is it's own level of bullshiat.

gustakooka: These guys are hateful fearmongorers, and no one should listen to them, but to say they are directly responsible is it's own level of bullshiat.

Man listens to Fox News. Fox tells him that Obama is going to take his guns away, repeatably. Man becomes afraid, and when cops arrive at his house, he assumes that they are here to take his guns and opens fire, killing 3 police officers. Who gave him the idea that he was going to take his guns? Without the idea, he wouldn't have opened fire, i.e. they are responsible for the deaths of those cops.

I am an internet fanatic.

GAT_00: gustakooka: These guys are hateful fearmongorers, and no one should listen to them, but to say they are directly responsible is it's own level of bullshiat.

Man listens to Fox News. Fox tells him that Obama is going to take his guns away, repeatably. Man becomes afraid, and when cops arrive at his house, he assumes that they are here to take his guns and opens fire, killing 3 police officers. Who gave him the idea that he was going to take his guns? Without the idea, he wouldn't have opened fire, i.e. they are responsible for the deaths of those cops.

no, no, no - clearly this is the gun manufacturer's fault. if he didn't have a gun to begin with, he couldn't have shot anyone

Beck: "If you a google search for 'tea parties' and CNN, how many hits do you get? Zero."

OH REALLY, GLENN? (new window)

make me some tea: Beck: "If you a google search for 'tea parties' and CNN, how many hits do you get? Zero."

OH REALLY, GLENN? (new window)

Glen Beck was Lying?!?!?! Unbelievable. Really. He's unbelievable. About anything.

Dinki: Glen Beck was Lying?!?!?! Unbelievable. Really. He's unbelievable. About anything.

I tend to think that he just didn't bother to do a google search to begin with.

Besides, this tea party stuff is something being promoted actively by Fox almost exclusively. It's their baby. No one else gives a fark.

Couldn't they find a homeless guy to shout paranoid rants at the TV for less money?

I thought Rush, Bill, and Sean were the worst it could get. And then Beck came along with closeups on his eyes for an entire hour, crying on camera almost every show while calling for a violent uprising to "save" his version of America, and simulating lighting his friends on fire.

The others were just annoying. Beck is just plain scary.

Magorn: Bloody William: Jesus, O'Reilly and Beck on the same show talking about the people persecuting them? That's the asshole equivalent of crossing the streams, man.

and to clarify Egon, that would be bad right?

Try to imagine all life as you know it stopping instantaneously and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light.

gustakooka: These guys are hateful fearmongorers, and no one should listen to them, but to say they are directly responsible is it's own level of bullshiat.

So you don't think people who listen to right-wing radio such as, say, that guy who shot up that liberal church, weren't in some manner incited to violence by their angry rhetoric?

They're both awful mouth-breathing douchebags, but claiming their rhetoric had any influence on what happened makes about as much sense as jack Thompson blaming it on video games. Pick the thing you hate, link it to shootings, rinse, repeat.

There's enough to hate about beck and oreilly without grasping at straws like this.

Megain: Man Idiot listens to Fox News Alex Jones' Infowars. Fox Alex Jones tells him that Obama is going to take his guns away, repeatably. Man Idiot who also frequents Stormfront becomes afraid, and when cops arrive at his house, he assumes that they are here to take his guns rape the white women at the behest of the 'n*igger President' and opens fire, killing 3 police officers. Who gave him the idea that he was going to take his guns? Alex Jones, racsit Stormfront douchenozzels. Without the idea, he wouldn't have opened fire, i.e. they are responsible for the deaths of those cops.

Moar accurate.

Don't mess with Sheinhardt Wig Co. if you know what's good for you.

Donald_McRonald: Don't mess with Sheinhardt Wig Co. if you know what's good for you.

meh.. they just reported their first loss since the Civil War. Time for a new lion.

starmatt85: They're both awful mouth-breathing douchebags, but claiming their rhetoric had any influence on what happened makes about as much sense as jack Thompson blaming it on video games. Pick the thing you hate, link it to shootings, rinse, repeat.

No, it makes a lot more sense.

1) Glenn Beck gets whipped up into an insane fervor about Obama coming to take their guns away on TV.
2) Stupid people believe that Glenn Beck is not clinically insane, get whipped into same retarded fervor.
3) Guy who believed that Obama was coming for his guns shoots two cops.
4) Glenn Beck: "Boy, I just do not understand why people would connect me to the guy that thought that."

When did Beck out-douche O'Reilly?

Who sponsors these farkers?
They're the ones to blame for this insanity.

So what were the cops at his house for ?

For a guy who can't go five minutes without thumping his chest over ratings, it's kinda weird that Bill O'Reilly is being taken down by tiny, insignificant, little GE/MSNBC.

How long until O'Reilly, Rush and Hannity start getting jealous of Glenn Beck's increased popularity and start trying to tear him down a little?

OK, I'm willing to give the benefit here, so far only the cop killer and the church massacre seem to have stemmed from these reactionaries, that is a small enough incident size that we can say maybe these guys would have snapped without any help. however, that has to be a line; our local guy, Gary Nolan does nothing but take calls pledging allegiance to a rebellion, this Bauchmann is a sitting congressman calling for an armed rebellion. At some point, crazy becomes a safety concern.

NeverDrunk23: When did Beck out-douche O'Reilly?

The Great Douche-Off of '07 I believe.

One Bad Apple: So what were the cops at his house for ?

THIS!!

REMEMBER RUBY RIDGE!1111111

James F. Campbell: gustakooka: These guys are hateful fearmongorers, and no one should listen to them, but to say they are directly responsible is it's own level of bullshiat.

So you don't think people who listen to right-wing radio such as, say, that guy who shot up that liberal church, weren't in some manner incited to violence by their angry rhetoric?

Of course not. And Hitler never did anything wrong, it was just a whole bunch of independent actors who coincidentally happened to listen to his words.

Ted Kennedy's Brain Tumor: Moar accurate.

other than the whole quoting the wrong person thing?

At this rate, O'RLY and Beck will say something so bad that not even the overlords on Fox News can defend it.

Lando Lincoln: starmatt85: They're both awful mouth-breathing douchebags, but claiming their rhetoric had any influence on what happened makes about as much sense as jack Thompson blaming it on video games. Pick the thing you hate, link it to shootings, rinse, repeat.

No, it makes a lot more sense.

1) Glenn Beck gets whipped up into an insane fervor about Obama coming to take their guns away on TV.
2) Stupid people believe that Glenn Beck is not clinically insane, get whipped into same retarded fervor.
3) Guy who believed that Obama was coming for his guns shoots two cops.
4) Glenn Beck: "Boy, I just do not understand why people would connect me to the guy that thought that."

I'll agree that the train of thought to reach the conclusion is more logical when it's beck and co. instead of video games, but the problem I have with both arguments is the lack of personal responsibility in both cases. I find it kind of patronizing to simply characterize his viewers as 'stupid people' who believe every word he says without question. And anyone who takes anything a talking head on tv says at face value, regardless of what the network logo in the corner is, clearly has enough other issues going on to make blaming the talking head a bit disingenuous.

MSNBC With one hit from a blogger?

Doubt It.

\I've never heard the word TeaBag said so often in one sentence...

Groover McToober: Who sponsors these farkers?
They're the ones to blame for this insanity.

To paraphrase what I said in an earlier thread:

Look at this

Your complacency will only aid and abet our national suicide. Remember, they wouldn't dare bomb Pearl Harbor, but they did. They wouldn't dare drive two planes into the World Trade Center, but they did. They wouldn't dare pilot a plane through the most sophisticated air defenses in the world and crash into the Pentagon, but they did. They wouldn't dare pass the largest spending bill in history, in open defiance of the will of the people, but they did!

See, it's simple. Obama and the Democrats in congress are the moral equivalent of the Tojo-era Japanese and Osama bin Laden.

Thomas Paine told me so.

This eliminationist rhetoric is dangerous stuff. And the advertisers on the Glenn Beck show are encouraging it. It's about time someone with a video camera started asking the CEO's of the companies that advertise on his show whether or not they consider Obama to be equivalent to Osama Bin Laden, and then point out what their advertising dollars are subsidizing.

And ask Roger Ailes and Rupert Murdoch while they are at it.

This is irresponsible, amoral crap.

Skleenar: Groover McToober: Who sponsors these farkers?
They're the ones to blame for this insanity.

To paraphrase what I said in an earlier thread:

Look at this

Your complacency will only aid and abet our national suicide. Remember, they wouldn't dare bomb Pearl Harbor, but they did. They wouldn't dare drive two planes into the World Trade Center, but they did. They wouldn't dare pilot a plane through the most sophisticated air defenses in the world and crash into the Pentagon, but they did. They wouldn't dare pass the largest spending bill in history, in open defiance of the will of the people, but they did!



See, it's simple. Obama and the Democrats in congress are the moral equivalent of the Tojo-era Japanese and Osama bin Laden.

Thomas Paine told me so.

This eliminationist rhetoric is dangerous stuff. And the advertisers on the Glenn Beck show are encouraging it. It's about time someone with a video camera started asking the CEO's of the companies that advertise on his show whether or not they consider Obama to be equivalent to Osama Bin Laden, and then point out what their advertising dollars are subsidizing.

And ask Roger Ailes and Rupert Murdoch while they are at it.

This is irresponsible, amoral crap.

BUT!! But Fox News is 'Fair and Balanced!' They said so themselves! Why would they lie!?

GAT_00: gustakooka: These guys are hateful fearmongorers, and no one should listen to them, but to say they are directly responsible is it's own level of bullshiat.

Man listens to Fox News. Fox tells him that Obama is going to take his guns away, repeatably. Man becomes afraid, and when cops arrive at his house, he assumes that they are here to take his guns and opens fire, killing 3 police officers. Who gave him the idea that he was going to take his guns? Without the idea, he wouldn't have opened fire, i.e. they are responsible for the deaths of those cops.

I say we blame Marilyn Manson.

CtrlAltDelete: UNC_Samurai: Megain: jesus was on the show too?

He would have really ripped those two schmucks new assholes.

I doubt they would invite someone who looked Arabic on the show.

^
We have the winner. Thread over.

"If you don't strike now, millions of your brothers will die, your enemies will triumph and your blood will flood the streets. They'll slit your throats without mercy and disembowel your wives. And their bloody hands will rip out your children's entrails to erase your love of liberty forever." - Jean-Paul Marat, 1790

Beck and O'Reilly remind me of Marat. Perhaps all Beck and O'Reilly need are a good hot bath. ;)

starmatt85: I'll agree that the train of thought to reach the conclusion is more logical when it's beck and co. instead of video games, but the problem I have with both arguments is the lack of personal responsibility in both cases. I find it kind of patronizing to simply characterize his viewers as 'stupid people' who believe every word he says without question. And anyone who takes anything a talking head on tv says at face value, regardless of what the network logo in the corner is, clearly has enough other issues going on to make blaming the talking head a bit disingenuous.

Have they done a law and order episode on this yet?
TV commentator says fear-mongering stuff to drive ratings
Wacko who takes him seriously kills people.
DOINK DOINK
[enter Jack McCoy]

But there ARE people who take Beck and O'Reilly seriously. REALLY, there are. Yes, they have issues beyond that if they do, but it's still a fact that they DO. And Bill-O and Glenn KNOW this, and so they have a RESPONSIBILITY to keep that in mind. And so do commentators on the left - they just tend not to go all fear-monger-y.

Yeah Glen, us evil libruls are the ones who are isolated on our own little island. We are the paranoid ones.

Oh, and how do you explain to your five year old why daddy is pouring "gasoline" on his friend?

GAT_00: gustakooka: These guys are hateful fearmongorers, and no one should listen to them, but to say they are directly responsible is it's own level of bullshiat.

Man listens to Fox News. Fox tells him that Obama is going to take his guns away, repeatably. Man becomes afraid, and when cops arrive at his house, he assumes that they are here to take his guns and opens fire, killing 3 police officers. Who gave him the idea that he was going to take his guns? Without the idea, he wouldn't have opened fire, i.e. they are responsible for the deaths of those cops.

Exactly. Just like listening to heavy metal, playing D&D, watching violent movies, and playing DOOM causes people to commit murder.

Dorf11: "If you don't strike now, millions of your brothers will die, your enemies will triumph and your blood will flood the streets. They'll slit your throats without mercy and disembowel your wives. And their bloody hands will rip out your children's entrails to erase your love of liberty forever." - Jean-Paul Marat, 1790

Beck and O'Reilly remind me of Marat. Perhaps all Beck and O'Reilly need are a good hot bath. ;)

GhostWing: CtrlAltDelete: UNC_Samurai: Megain: jesus was on the show too?

He would have really ripped those two schmucks new assholes.

I doubt they would invite someone who looked Arabic on the show.

^
We have the winner. Thread over.

Seconded.

ps, the cops were at the guy's house because his mom (who he lived with) called them to stop her son from hitting her. it was a domestic violence call. homeboy's a winner!

Glen Beck is just setting up to be friends with a President in the future. It worked for William Ayers.

Groover McToober: GhostWing: CtrlAltDelete: UNC_Samurai: Megain: jesus was on the show too?

He would have really ripped those two schmucks new assholes.

I doubt they would invite someone who looked Arabic on the show.

^
We have the winner. Thread over.

Seconded.

Remember Jesus was a white man from Oxford.

/obscure?

I still can't figure out whether this is really just performance art taken way too far by Beck, or some kind of act for ratings, because I don't think he really is that nuts. I used to listen to him regularly before his show was syndicated when he was on in Tampa market, and he was a pretty reasonable, middle of the road kind of guy. The only time he would sound as nuts as he has lately was when he's pull this stunt he called the "Schlub Club", when he'd set it up some kind of nutty scenario at the beginning of the show, tell the people who were listening at that time to call in and play along, and then start with these crazy off the wall things during the hour when most people would be tuning in as they were driving home from work. People who hadn't heard the set up earlier would then call in and be outraged, and eventually he'd let everybody know that the whole thing was a joke.

It's like he's doing the Shlub Club thing 24/7 now, and I keep waiting for him to say, "just kidding, I got you all", but he keeps it up.

/Back then, it was hilarious
//Now, it's not funny anymore