wow. damn shame I missed the limbaugh meltdown.

Rush isn't having a good time lately. Let's hope he's starting to feel the heat for some of his actions lately, which to my mind have been fairly stupid.

Dear God,


Please let actual conservatives lay a country-wide asskicking on the fascistic bigoted idiots who have laid claim to the modern conservative movement.


Sincerely,
Blues

The caller was right - all he's got left is sour grapes and wharrgarbl.

America woke up, Rush....you should too.

Blues_X: Dear God,


Please let actual conservatives lay a country-wide asskicking on the fascistic bigoted idiots who have laid claim to the modern conservative movement.


Sincerely,
Blues

Rush and other polarizing talking heads (on both sides) is the reason why we can't have nice things in Washington. I feel really abandoned by both parties. I tend to lean fairly liberal on most issues, but there are some issues where I am staunchly conservative (very pro-2nd amendment rights). And neither party is interested in being fiscally conservative, so where am I to go?

/yes, I "threw away" my vote this pst election
//maybe if more people "threw away" their votes, it wouldn't be throwing them away
///GO NADER 2012!

Mztlplx: The caller was right - all he's got left is sour grapes and wharrgarbl.

America woke up, Rush....you should too.

the problem for Rush is that he's smart enough to realize that he's crossed some sort of line. I think he knows that he's screwed up. He can see what's happening to the Republicans, he knows he's losing touch with the majority of real conservatives....but the problem is that he can't bring himself to admit he's wrong. Call it ego, call it marketing...call it what you will, but Rush *does not* make mistakes. He's Rush Limbaugh, the Great and Powerful!

So now we get to see Rush try to ignore reality. I'm just wondering if he'll relapse back into drug abuse. the stress on him has to be incredible, and from what I gather he has no real support network around him that could help keep him clean and sober.

Weaver95: call it marketing...

I think this is what's going on. He's doing the same thing Malkin and Coulter do. I can't honestly believe that they actually buy into the things they say. It's got to be about ratings and sales.

Mztlplx: Weaver95: call it marketing...

I think this is what's going on. He's doing the same thing Malkin and Coulter do. I can't honestly believe that they actually buy into the things they say. It's got to be about ratings and sales.

I used to think this was true about Rush. But I'm not sure the same applies to Hannity or Beck. These guys are true believers (which is why they're coming completely unhinged.)

Blues_X: Dear God,


Please let actual conservatives lay a country-wide asskicking on the fascistic bigoted idiots who have laid claim to the modern conservative movement.


Sincerely,
Blues

Perhaps praying to God instead of actually doing something is why the conservative movement has been taken over by people like that. I mean, it's one thing to hope things will get better, it's another thing entirely to do something to make it better.

Bladel: Mztlplx: Weaver95: call it marketing...

I think this is what's going on. He's doing the same thing Malkin and Coulter do. I can't honestly believe that they actually buy into the things they say. It's got to be about ratings and sales.

I used to think this was true about Rush. But I'm not sure the same applies to Hannity or Beck. These guys are true believers (which is why they're coming completely unhinged.)

somewhere along the line, Rush started to believe his own press releases. Half his brain is still looking at this from a marketing perspective, and calmly/rationally calculating how to best turn all of this to his market advantage....but the more vocal part of his brain really took Obama's election personally. And that's the part that's currently running the show (so to speak). I get the feeling that Rush really hates Obama....and not just because he's a Democrat, but in a far more personal manner. It's just that whenever I hear Rush say 'President Obama' I get this weird sort of vibe from Limbaugh. LIke he's really saying 'God, I really hate this guy and wish he'd just go away.'

Weaver95: the problem for Rush is that he's smart enough to realize that he's crossed some sort of line. I think he knows that he's screwed up. He can see what's happening to the Republicans, he knows he's losing touch with the majority of real conservatives....but the problem is that he can't bring himself to admit he's wrong. Call it ego, call it marketing...call it what you will, but Rush *does not* make mistakes. He's Rush Limbaugh, the Great and Powerful!

I love watching him implode, but I wonder how much of it really is ego and how much is damage control. Put yourself in his situation. He's built an image over the last 20 years of being the voice of true conservatism and real Americana. And with (even still) a large group of people eating it up, he can't turn around and go "Yeah, so I've pretty much been blowing sh*t out of my mouth for years now." The man's entire persona is this whole "conservatism can't fail, we just fail conservatism." Now that he's defined "conservatism" to include nation building, deficit spending, and torture -- he can't backtrack. He'd lose half his hardcore audience, and people who hate him now won't suddenly start listening to him.

bahaha. anyone actually read the transcript? rush says, "you and your ignorance are the most expensive commodity this country has."

/pic of inigo montoya

Senescent Dawn: I love watching him implode, but I wonder how much of it really is ego and how much is damage control. Put yourself in his situation. He's built an image over the last 20 years of being the voice of true conservatism and real Americana. And with (even still) a large group of people eating it up, he can't turn around and go "Yeah, so I've pretty much been blowing sh*t out of my mouth for years now." The man's entire persona is this whole "conservatism can't fail, we just fail conservatism." Now that he's defined "conservatism" to include nation building, deficit spending, and torture -- he can't backtrack. He'd lose half his hardcore audience, and people who hate him now won't suddenly start listening to him.

there is certainly that aspect to it. I think you're right - Limbaugh has painted himself into a corner and he's going to just try and bullshiat his way out of it.

The problem is that Rush rose to prominence in an era BEFORE easy of mass communication via the 'net. He could easily get away with slinging bullshiat and reasonably hope that he'd get away with it. But nowadays, it's a bit more difficult. If a public figure (like Limbaugh) slings bullshiat, he can expect to be called out on it before he's even off the stage. blatant attempts to lie and distort information can (and are) easily exposed, documented and refuted nearly instantly. In this sort of information rich environment Limbaugh faces a much more difficult situation than he did even 5 years ago.

Can he get out of the hole he dug himself into? I don't know. But it'll be fun to watch him try....

Weaver95: ....but the more vocal part of his brain really took Obama's election personally.

Rush, et. al., have had eight years of these hard right views being the "correct" way of thinking. Long enough to lead them to believe that they could shape opinion and be kingmakers. Obama's election signaled a shift in American politics and thinking - now that feeling of power is eroding. I can see Rush taking that personally.

The caller is mistaken if he believes enough moderates actually listen to Rush to get turned off by what he was saying.

I almost feel that Rush Limbaugh could be a deep cover 4chan IRL troll. Either that or he's Fred Savage.

/amused

Mztlplx: Weaver95: ....but the more vocal part of his brain really took Obama's election personally.

Rush, et. al., have had eight years of these hard right views being the "correct" way of thinking. Long enough to lead them to believe that they could shape opinion and be kingmakers. Obama's election signaled a shift in American politics and thinking - now that feeling of power is eroding. I can see Rush taking that personally.

that's partly it. don't underestimate the power of ego on Limbaugh's attitude. the election of Obama was a very public slap in the face to someone like Limbaugh. Obama represents not just the failure of the Limbaugh brand of faux conservatism but the failure of Limbaugh himself to control the Republican vote as closely as he would like.

And you could read an ideological shift within the Republican party also at work here. I was not the ONLY (now former) Republican to be disgusted by the actions of our government in places like Gitmo. I suspect that the 'war on terror' was the final straw for a lot of Republicans who'd been sickened by the religious right for a long, long time and who just decided to send a message to the Republican leadership in a manner that they would be unable to ignore.

Blues_X: Dear God,


Please let actual conservatives lay a country-wide asskicking on the fascistic bigoted idiots who have laid claim to the modern conservative movement.


Sincerely,
Blues

I would rather see more actual Republicans step forward.

That is part of the problem. The party is dominated by Conservatives, and more, folks who've pushed the envelope of what "Conservatism" means to the point where folks like myself can no longer lay claim it--I used to consider myself fairly Conservative, but can no longer, because of idiot RINOs who've sapped any meaning from the term, with their short term and radical agenda, and wrapping themselves up in the flag to hide it.

If the GOP wants to get back into power, we need to get back to base roots. Not Conservative. Not Moderate. Not Progressive. The Republican party needs to remember that we were based upon the preservation of the republic. Long term goals, based on preservation of the Constitution, and look for the needs of keeping that republic safe.

The thrashing you see now, is a faction that realizes that it has screwed up badly, but hasn't the wit nor the integrity to simply admit that they've screwed up, and are on the wrong side of history. I call them RINOs because they haven't got even the sense of shame to take responsibility for their actions, or their policies, and are instead flinging whatever accusations they can to obfuscate and hide their own complicity in what has amounted to the greatest fraud ever perpetrated, and the very idea that they might actually have been wrong is so much anathema to their thought process that they can't see anything remotely looking like a road to recovery.

And to be honest--we need to jettison this flotsam. Let them go Libertarian. Let them form their own Christian Soldiers Charade Party, let them go, and get back to the preservation of the republic and the Constitution, and roll from there.

They aren't going gently, but they do need to go, because the only thing that they've gotten right, is that RINOs need to go--but I fear that they haven't parsed yet that means themselves...

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interesting snopes link on the pershing thing. (new window)

FlashHarry: This Is Bold Text

interesting snopes link on the pershing thing. (new window)

Also worth noting is "Muslim terrorists" would have been "Filipino resistance against American colonialism." Their hypothetical methods of resistance aside, we weren't exactly there by invitation.

FlashHarry: This Is Bold Text

interesting snopes link on the pershing thing. (new window)

I know it's fake, I just like making trolltastic posts.

hubiestubert: And to be honest--we need to jettison this flotsam. Let them go Libertarian. Let them form their own Christian Soldiers Charade Party, let them go, and get back to the preservation of the republic and the Constitution, and roll from there.

I have a similar viewpoint, but it may veer somewhat from your ideals. I flatly told people last year that if McCain had made a clear and unequivocal statement of support for Roe v. Wade, and had by word and deed distanced himself from the religious right, I would not only likely have voted for him, but I might even have campaigned for him. What I will never countenance is a political candidate who puts God and religion above country and people.

I read that transcript in the thread yesterday (the one where Ebert pwns O'Reilly) and I STILL have no idea what Rush is saying.

FTFA: RUSH: Charles, Barack Obama is president of the United States today because of stupid, ignorant people who think like you do.

Umm, the caller is a former serviceman who is against torture & voted for McCain, so Rush is blaming him for Obama's win? My head hurts...

dahmers love zombie: hubiestubert: And to be honest--we need to jettison this flotsam. Let them go Libertarian. Let them form their own Christian Soldiers Charade Party, let them go, and get back to the preservation of the republic and the Constitution, and roll from there.

I have a similar viewpoint, but it may veer somewhat from your ideals. I flatly told people last year that if McCain had made a clear and unequivocal statement of support for Roe v. Wade, and had by word and deed distanced himself from the religious right, I would not only likely have voted for him, but I might even have campaigned for him. What I will never countenance is a political candidate who puts God and religion above country and people.


Two things that I can't stand:

Religion interfering in politics
(anti-stem cell legislation)

and

Politics interfering in religion
(pusing one's own agenda in church meetings rather than trying to help people)

It would be a much better world if those two could be kept seperate.

I'm pretty sure they're both brainwashed. Rush for forgetting he's a radio personality, and the caller for caring.

OK, Subby. Where's the "massive butthurt"? All I see is an exchange between Rush and a caller. Rush has dozens of callers per week.

LIMBAUGH: That was Operation Chaos.

this farking idiot actually thinks he's in charge of some sort of paramilitary operation. Apparently the boil on his ass is all better

For 20 years, Rush and his ilk have been able to score points by branding anyone to the left of Atilla the Hun as "liberal". This time around, America said "Yes, please, more liberals". Now we're being called "socialists", and, on a good day, fascists.

Rush and his boys had complete hold of the reins of power for 6 years and could not possibly have screwed things up more.

Elections have consequences.

Weaver95: but the problem is that he can't bring himself to admit he's wrong

Just like the Fonz.

Isn't this the part where the Fark right-wingers come storming in and claiming that the guy on the phone was really a liberal plant designed to make Rush look bad and that they only see Rush as an entertainer but trust him more than actual politicians?

brigid_fitch: I read that transcript in the thread yesterday (the one where Ebert pwns O'Reilly) and I STILL have no idea what Rush is saying.

FTFA: RUSH: Charles, Barack Obama is president of the United States today because of stupid, ignorant people who think like you do.

Umm, the caller is a former serviceman who is against torture & voted for McCain, so Rush is blaming him for Obama's win? My head hurts...

I think Weaver nailed it perfectly: its Rush's ego. He got so much into this character that he made up that now he has no choice but to BE that character, and that means spinning EVERYTHING as a positive for himself.

Real republicans: if people keep thinking that this bloated idiot is the republican voice, a third party WILL take your place one day. He isn't helping you! He would rather see the party burn if it meant more ratings for him.

Conservative movement is an oxymoran.

Headso: The caller is mistaken if he believes enough moderates actually listen to Rush to get turned off by what he was saying.

I'm sure what followed were several phone calls kissing Rush's boo-boo.

SherKhan: Conservative movement is an oxymoran.

That's not true and you know it. Conservatives have been doing movements all over the USA for a long time now.

/Bowel movements.

Brentnsndr: Rush and other polarizing talking heads (on both sides) is the reason why we can't have nice things in Washington.

To be fair, the most Rush-like voice on the left (Randi Rhodes) HAS been booted off the air. And nobody seems to miss her.

mediaho: Weaver95: but the problem is that he can't bring himself to admit he's wrong

Just like the Fonz.

Great. You get Rush on a motorcycle.

Me, I'm going to find me a shark.

I'm guessing Charles didn't get a free EIB mousepad

mediaho: Weaver95: but the problem is that he can't bring himself to admit he's wrong

Just like the Fonz.

Can Rush even physically jump the shark?

SherKhan: Conservative movement is an oxymoran.

Build tomorrow's stasis today!

NeverDrunk23: mediaho: Weaver95: but the problem is that he can't bring himself to admit he's wrong

Just like the Fonz.

Can Rush even physically jump the shark?

give him enough Oxycontin and I think he'd be willing to try.

Queuing the republican apology to Rush in 3 . . . 2 . . .

NeverDrunk23: Can Rush even physically jump the shark?

is there a Dominican boy waiting for him on the other side?

SherKhan: Conservative movement is an oxymoran.

Meanwhile, Conservative Bowel Movement is redundant.

/*rimshot*
//ew... rim.

Conman: For 20 years, Rush and his ilk have been able to score points by branding anyone to the left of Atilla the Hun as "liberal". This time around, America said "Yes, please, more liberals". Now we're being called "socialists", and, on a good day, fascists.

Rush and his boys had complete hold of the reins of power for 6 years and could not possibly have screwed things up more.

Elections have consequences.

Rush Limbaugh was in a position of governmental power? Really?
Holy farking shiat. We just thought he was a conservative talk show host. Who knew?

What I learned today:

Rush has a brother.

They are both idiots.

thenateman: OK, Subby. Where's the "massive butthurt"?

Subby here.

It's at the very end. On top of commiting the cardinal sin of disagreeing with Rush about torture, he then accused the caller of being the reason that Obama was elected. The caller was like "Yo, I voted for McCain." and basicly calling Rush on his BS. Rush then finishes with this nugget:

"Charles, Barack Obama is president of the United States today because of stupid, ignorant people who think like you do. You pose - you and your ignorance are the most expensive commodity this country has. You think you know everything. You don't know diddly squat. You call me a Nazi? You call me someone who supports torture and you want credibility on this program? You're just plan embarrassing and ludicrous. But it doesn't surprise me that you're the kind of Republican that our last candidate attracted. Because you're no Republican at all based on what the hell you just said right here......"

If that doesn't say butthurt, i'm not sure what does.

Regards,

Brentnsndr

Wow. How did that caller get through the switchboard?

Third comment down is priceless.

Fourth, rather.